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bigmacmtl
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Carletto shows Gila trust 
Tuesday 29 January, 2008

Ronaldo won’t be fit for Milan’s rescheduled Week 15 game against Reggina tomorrow, so Carlo Ancelotti will turn to Alberto Gilardino.

Gilardino’s future is up in the air as he seems to have been displaced by Brazilian starlet Alexandre Pato.

As reports that the former Parma man may quit the club circulate, Ancelotti is keen to reiterate his faith in the struggling marksman.

“He was angry at being brought on two minutes before the end against Genoa, not because he didn’t play,” the Rossoneri tactician insisted.

“He didn’t play because we wanted to play in a different way with players who play further forward than Gilardino – that’s why I chose Pato and Ronaldo there. If you want to play a more physical game then Gila is ideal.

“I can understand why he could be unhappy, but even if he is coming on late he can be useful.

“I want to state again that there is no problem between me and Alberto and I think that he is doing very well.

“He has given so much and he will continue to give so much. I have the greatest trust in him and I think he will continue to grow.”
Zed.D
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:19 PM)
Juve would pounce at the possibility of signing him.
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 28 2008, 10:22 PM)
(Wonder if we could talk them into giving up Chiellini or Palladino. hrm.)
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QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jan 29 2008, 07:45 AM)
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I would swap Gila with Chiellini anytime! he IS what we need. after losing out on the chance of signing Gigi, I think we should try our luck with Chiellini.
kurtsimonw
It may be a good deal for us, but why on earth would Juve do it? I'm certain they do not need another striker. And the last thing we need is to lose a striker.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 29 2008, 08:23 PM)
It may be a good deal for us, but why on earth would Juve do it? I'm certain they do not need another striker. And the last thing we need is to lose a striker.
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Soon Trez will be out. Ohhh yes, they need one for sure,..
misha
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Gilardino On Parma And Arsenal

Milan striker Alberto Gilardino has spoken of his love for the city of Parma, his disappointment at not leaving there with all three points on Saturday and the need for his team to be completely focussed when they meet Arsenal on Wednesday.

Milan lost further ground on Fiorentina in the battle to claim the fourth Champions League place in Serie A at the weekend but Alberto Gilardino was philosophical about the 0-0 draw against the club where he enjoyed three goal-happy years.

"Pity about the result," sighed the out-of-sorts striker at Sunday's official press conference. "Because last night we could have taken home the three points, especially after the performance Milan had in the second half with some of the chances we managed to create. Bucci was very good to stop us. Now we take this point and we prepare well the game against Arsenal.

"Personally I feel fine, I'm in form and I have a lot of desire to play and to give my contribution to the squad. Yesterday I had a couple of  chances to score, in particular a ball was stopped by Castellini with his heel," he reflected. 

"Returning to the Tardini was a particular sensation, both for the affection that I feel for this city, where I spent three years of my life, and for the people who are always warm. As a stadium it resembles a lot the English model, with the public very close to the pitch."

This allowed him to turn his focus neatly towards Milan's mid-week Champions League game in London.

"On Wednesday we shall face Arsenal," Gila continued. "We have only a few days, but we shall use these hours to prepare for this important game. We are training well to arrive prepared both in the mental and physical level so as to play a tactically perfect game. We must play a good game."
Jack Sparrow
^^^

I always knew you liked him misha. biggrin.gif U have impeccable taste. Well except for that small matter of Chelsea.
misha
I'll start liking him after after he gets the f@ck out of this team wink.gif
Jack Sparrow
We'll see..we'll see. I think you might have to do a Portugal-->Porty thing soon. devil.gif
misha
Not a chance smile.gif His mentality is the problem and Milan deserve better IMO
Jack Sparrow
Mentality schmentality....you're a psychologist for a reason..show some love dude, get a ticket to Milan. biggrin.gif
misha
If he can promise me a few hours with his girlfriend, I might consider it tongue.gif
Jack Sparrow
*sigh*...

Well they say the only sick mind is that of the psychiatrist. tongue.gif biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
This is getting boring.

Gila's our highest scoring striker, he takes all the ****.

Ronaldo has done nothing this season, and he gets sympathy, pathetic. rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
No no no...this went way off topic some time ago kurt.

Right now...we're questioning misha's credentials as a psychologist, and who he's sleeping with to pass his tests. biggrin.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 18 2008, 06:51 AM)
This is getting boring.

Gila's our highest scoring striker, he takes all the ****.

Ronaldo has done nothing this season, and he gets sympathy, pathetic. rolleyes.gif
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?????? sympathy because he is injured for a year and this might end the career of one of the best striker (maybe) ever. How can you even compare? rolleyes.gif

If Gila will have a year long injury that might put his career in danger, he will get simpathy too.

The fact that he's our highest scoring striker just shows how poor our striker choices for the season were. He's not up to this level, it's as simple as that.
Jack Sparrow
Well in all fairness R99 did get sympathy before the tendon as well. But then again...R99 has done stuff Gila, can never dream of doing.

However there is a tendendy for us to glorify the striker as the be all and end all of team.

It's there everywhere...three people are responsible for the team's rise and/or fall...

The GK, The Coach, The Striker.

Somehow the consensus is fire any or all of the three to improve. Who gives a fvck about team building.
kurtsimonw
R9 can have sympathy, I have no problem with that.

But what did he do for MILAN before this injury? Nothing, nothing at all. Oh, great, he is fantastic for Barca, Real, Inter and PSV so all is forgiven. Who cares what he did for those teams, I find it even more annoying that he was so good for them yet offered us nothing whatsoever.

Gila is a scapegoat, simple as that. We haven't won many games this season, and we've won a few which were simply down to Gila's goals. He scored plenty of goals in his season with Sheva (Further backing up my case that a strike partner is needed) and finished our top scorer last season.

It's not his fault he has no partner, nor is it his fault that Milans management hasn't bought in any better. If getting rid of him is the answer, Milan are in for dark days.

Chapions of Italy don't have Inzaghi, Pato and Paloschi as their main strikers, not even close.
Tennie
I think you're right to an extent, Jack. If the Keeper or the Main Striker underperform, there's a huge uproar.

Alberto Gilardino isn't a BAD striker; he really is quite talented. Is he Milan quality? Maybe. I think he'd do better in a smaller club, though. Maybe the pressure of a big club gets to him; maybe the lack of a strike partner whose play compliments his is causing problems.

For me, I'm very picky about really praising Milan strikers. Feel free to make old person jokes, but the best Milan striker I've seen play (for Milan, that is. Ronie at Barca is another case) is without question Marco Van Basten. And there just aren't many strikers who come close to what MVB did.
Jack Sparrow
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Gila is a scapegoat, simple as that!


I will agree with this one. Sometimes it's made out...that if it weren't for Gila..we'd be sitting pretty with the treble in the bag. Kinda disappointing.

I think Gila gets a lot of stick..coz he wasn't part of the first Carlo generation. And also coz of the whole Sheva thing. But then I think of Bebeto and how he was initially dissed too.
kurtsimonw
LOL @ the 'Professional Thread Hijacker' thing. tongue.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 18 2008, 07:09 AM)
R9 can have sympathy, I have no problem with that.

But what did he do for MILAN before this injury? Nothing, nothing at all. Oh, great, he is fantastic for Barca, Real, Inter and PSV so all is forgiven. Who cares what he did for those teams, I find it even more annoying that he was so good for them yet offered us nothing whatsoever.

First of all he turned our Serie A season around last year, was a major part of Milan getting the 4th place which gave us the chance of resting key players before important CL games.

We are talking about a legend here. So what that he played most of his best foorball for other clubs? He is at Milan now. Got injured while playing for our club and what the mangement was supposed to do? throw him out? or it's his fault that he got injured? What's your point?

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Gila is a scapegoat, simple as that. We haven't won many games this season, and we've won a few which were simply down to Gila's goals. He scored plenty of goals in his season with Sheva (Further backing up my case that a strike partner is needed) and finished our top scorer last season

Yes Gila had a nice Serie A first season with 17 goals (even though most of them were un important but I'll give you that) . What did he do in CL playing along side Sheva? 0 Big fat 0 in 10 games. There were his mentality problems very visible. Just who can forget his misses in the first leg of the Baca clash?

Last season? He was very bad. He scored only 12 gooals in 30 games (Kaka scored as much just in the CL). Our top Serie A scorer you say? We had Oliveira who were sh!t, Pippo who's old and can't play that many games anymore and Ronaldo who joined only in January and scored 7 goals in 14 games. The fact that he our top scorer with so little goals just shows you the mistakes of our board in putting this team together. This season is the same. Pippo can play that many games, Ronaldo was injured most of the time and Pato just joined and alreadyscored 4 goals in 6 games while Gila has 7 in 19 games.

He was sh!t last season, just like this season. And of course you can't count on him in the CL at all. He's just a mediocre Serie A striker that can be a 3-4 choice at Milan and nothing more.

Look at Pippo. At his prime he was one of the most lethal strikers in europe and in Gila's age was one of the most feared strikers. Gila will never be something even close to him. And we need such world class players. The absurd is that even now, when he's 35, he's still prefered in Europe over Gila. And no, you cannot compare Pippo's lasts seasons Serie A records with Gila's. Pippo is not the same player anymore and his legs can't carry a full season at this level, but you are welcome to compare them both in mid 20's and to see a real difference between world class and mediocrity.

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Chapions of Italy don't have Inzaghi, Pato and Paloschi as their main strikers, not even close.

Nobody saying we just need to drop him and play with what left. He need to be replaced
kurtsimonw
Okay. Gila's cr@p, he needs replacing.

He was our top scorer last season regardless of what you say. If you're saying it's no accomplishment, then 1) The other strikers we have are useless and 2) The management is useless for not bringing in better players.

As for the whole "How good was Pippo at 25".. How good was Toni at 25? I'd say worse than Gila, now look at him.

And the CL arguement, I'm not interested. Alan Shearer didn't have a great CL record and he's one of the best strikers of the last 20 years.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 18 2008, 10:44 AM)
I think you're right to an extent, Jack. If the Keeper or the Main Striker underperform, there's a huge uproar.

Alberto Gilardino isn't a BAD striker; he really is quite talented. Is he Milan quality? Maybe. I think he'd do better in a smaller club, though. Maybe the pressure of a big club gets to him; maybe the lack of a strike partner whose play compliments his is causing problems.

For me, I'm very picky about really praising Milan strikers. Feel free to make old person jokes, but the best Milan striker I've seen play (for Milan, that is. Ronie at Barca is another case) is without question Marco Van Basten. And there just aren't many strikers who come close to what MVB did.
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There you go...you must have been a carpenter in your past life...since you so seem to hit nails right on their head.

Gila does not become a BAD striker, because he is not as good as MvB. Is he Milan quality?? I think it's a bit unfair to classify Milan quality as all who become Milan legends only. Besides, it's way too early for him to be a legend.

I don't for one moment intend to proclaim Gila as a gifted skilled player. Not always are the great players the most technically accomplished. But I think to see he is a bad player or a crap one is unfair. Considering he's been handicapped in his playing system, and he's still stepped up to the plate...and done as best as he could, he gets nothing but good remarks from me.
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 18 2008, 07:47 AM)
Okay. Gila's cr@p, he needs replacing.

He was our top scorer last season regardless of what you say. If you're saying it's no accomplishment, then 1) The other strikers we have are useless and 2) The management is useless for not bringing in better players.
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Yes, he's not worth being our main striker in my opinion.

First of all, yes, I just blaimed our management in my post. Secondly, Kaka scored 18 goals last season, while Gila 16 in all competitions or CL is not good enough for you?

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As for the whole "How good was Pippo at 25".. How good was Toni at 25? I'd say worse than Gila, now look at him.

Yes, Toni started to play world class at 29, and that happens once in how many? Should we wait another 4 years? Milan is not the team to wait years for players. Milan should buy world class. In most cases at mid 20s you already see the real worth of player. Just schack about other world class striker. By that time you already see their true potential.

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And the CL arguement, I'm not interested. Alan Shearer didn't have a great CL record and he's one of the best strikers of the last 20 years

You are not interested? biggrin.gif This is Milan we are talking about and CL is a huge factor for Milan. We are talking about the most important club competition and we need players that can raise to the occasion.
Shearer? who cares? he played maybe two seasons in the CL and doesn't represant anything. He palyed for Blackburn and Newcastle. We are talking about Milan here. One example (even as wrong as this one) doesn't represnt anything. Just check what Milan's best strikers did over the years in the CL.
kurtsimonw
You do have valid points.

I don't want to go on and on with this anyways, We'll never get anywhere and I like you, so I don't want to have pages and pages of nothing for no reason. tongue.gif
Tennie
The fish doll thanks you both kindly for coming to an amicable conclusion of this discussion and offers you both biscuits. 96.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 18 2008, 08:14 AM)
You do have valid points.

I don't want to go on and on with this anyways, We'll never get anywhere and I like you, so I don't want to have pages and pages of nothing for no reason. tongue.gif
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Fair enough.

You don't have to agree with me and everyone has his own opinion. People over here defend\bash Gila, Dida, Kaladze, Carlo, etc, and it's mostly the same arguments all over again. Everyone has his favorites biggrin.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (mishale @ Feb 18 2008, 09:11 AM)
First of all he turned our Serie A season around last year, was a major part of Milan getting the 4th place which gave us the chance of resting key players before important CL games.

We are talking about a legend here. So what that he played most of his best foorball for other clubs? He is at Milan now. Got injured while playing for our club and what the mangement was supposed to do? throw him out? or it's his fault that he got injured? What's your point?
Yes Gila had a nice Serie A first season with 17 goals (even though most of them were un important but I'll give you that) . What did he do in CL playing along side Sheva? 0 Big fat 0 in 10 games. biggrin.gif There were his mentality problems very visible. Just who can forget his misses in the first leg of the Baca clash?

Last season? He was very bad. He scored only 12 gooals in 30 games (Kaka scored as much just in the CL). Our top Serie A scorer you say? We had Oliveira who were sh!t, Pippo who's old and can't play that many games anymore and Ronaldo who joined only in January and scored 7 goals in 14 games.  The fact that he our top scorer with so little goals just shows you the mistakes of our board in putting this team together.  This season is the same. Pippo can play that many games, Ronaldo was injured most of the time and Pato just joined and alreadyscored 4 goals in 6 games while Gila has 7 in 19 games.

He was sh!t last season, just like  this season. And of course you can't count on him in the CL at all. He's just a mediocre Serie A striker that can be a 3-4 choice at Milan and nothing more.

Look at Pippo. At his prime he was one of the most lethal strikers in europe and in Gila's age was one of the most feared strikers. Gila will never be something even close to him. And we need such world class players. The absurd is that even now, when he's 35, he's still prefered in Europe over Gila. And no, you cannot compare Pippo's lasts seasons Serie A records with Gila's. Pippo is not the same player anymore and his legs can't carry a full season at this level, but you are welcome to compare them both in mid 20's and to see a real difference between world class and mediocrity.
Nobody saying we just need to drop him and play with what left. He need to be replaced
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I have no doubt that half of Gila's problems are mentality problems, the other half being lack of a supporting striker around him.

Gila did quite OK when he had a partner in Pato, he scored two crucial goals /worth 6 points/ in those 4-5 games. but as soon a Pato got injured, Gila turned to the old useless striker. he just can't play alone. that's HIS problem though. a problem that will keep him far away from being a world class.

So... he's good enough to be at Milan, but absolutely not as the first or even second choice. that's my opinion.
Fillipo Simone
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29/02/2008

Gilardino Set For Juventus Transfer Talks

The chances of Alberto Gilardino moving to Juventus in the summer are looking increasingly more likely as, according to reports in Italy, the player’s agents are expected in Turin in the coming days to discuss a transfer.
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galleria zoom    It has long been speculated that Gilardino is in his last year at Milan, as he has once again failed to impress this season. 

The 25-year-old has been a major disappointment since signing for the Rossoneri in a big-money move from Parma in 2005. 

Fiorentina have been heavily linked with making a move, however Tuttosport yesterday revealed that Juventus were preparing a significant offer to bring Gila to Turin. 

The Italy international’s agents Beppe and Marcello Bonetto will travel to Turin in the next few days to begin transfer talks with the Juventus hierarchy. 

Milan Coach Carlo Ancelotti as well as transfer guru Adriano Galliani have told Gilardino that he is free to join Juve. 

The player himself would jump at the chance to move, considering the fact that he is a huge Juventus fan. 

Gilardino was actually close to joining Juve in 2005, until Luciano Moggi pulled out of the deal late in the day as he was unsure over the quality of the player.


It's good news to me. Gila's mentality is very near to the Juve one. He's killing the game just like they are, they could be one of a kind.

And if Borri is set to come back, then this could make sense - Borri as a replacement for Gila, XY(topstriker --Drogba, Ade, etc) for Ronaldo, and in addition Pato, Paloschi and a old but amusing Pippo. Would be really enough, or even more then enough for next season's attack.
dst
Gila and 30m for Buffon... sleepysmiley03.gif
MizNelson
I can't see Carlo and Bald Ego telling Gila he can join a close league rival. Nope.

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Just who can forget his misses in the first leg of the Baca clash?

The what clash?
misha
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 2 2008, 10:18 AM)
The what clash?
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Barca

Please, if there is God, get rid of him.
HasanHasanly
Why would Juve sell Buffon? They will just offer great sums for any player simply to make sure that Buffon is not a part of the deal.

Buffon will finish his career in Juve, unless of course, Moratti decides its time for another scandal. smile.gif
Tennie
(from acmilan.com)

MILAN - Congratulations to Alberto Gilardino and his partner Alice Bregoli. The small Ginevra was born today at 10.11, the first daughter of the couple. All the best wishes to the new dad and mum from all the Milanisti of the small child.
Fillipo Simone
Ginevra? Mmm, very interesting name. I like it!!

Maybe this will help, and we'll see Gila on Tuesday in a baby-goal-celebration mood..

Anyway, congrats to Alberto and Alice! devil.gif
weeeow
congrats Alberto!

mirror your form that is in the bedroom, to the pitch tongue.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Mar 2 2008, 10:35 AM)
Barca

Please, if there is God, get rid of him.
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Gila won't be leaving then, will he.
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 2 2008, 06:14 PM)
Gila won't be leaving then, will he.
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O.k, I will rephrase for you. Please, if there is still someone with a little sense in Milan, get rid of the flop.
agenth
Ginevra's such a cool name!! biggrin.gif

Hopefully he'll score a goal for her hehehe!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Mar 2 2008, 04:25 PM)
O.k, I will rephrase for you. Please, if there is still someone with a little sense in Milan, get rid of the flop.
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I think this also gives the same answer. tongue.gif

We all know Milan are very loyal to their players. And it's cost us big time in the past. Instead of bringing in newer guys to help push the team forward, they've put faith in their existing players. Now we've got to a stage where the team is very old, and it's starting to really hurt us..

Is anybody in Milan has any sense, we'll see wholesale changes in the summer. But I don't think that''ll be the case.
Bluesummers
please leave i beg of you gila
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 2 2008, 07:22 PM)
I think this also gives the same answer.  tongue.gif

We all know Milan are very loyal to their players. And it's cost us big time in the past. Instead of bringing in newer guys to help push the team forward, they've put faith in their existing players. Now we've got to a stage where the team is very old, and it's starting to really hurt us..
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Milan never had much "faith" in their strikers. We've sold Simone, Gullit, Laudrup, Bierhoff, Weah, Jose Mari, bla-bla-bla without a blink blink.gif.
Nova
Gila a dad ?? well he finally produced something !! tongue.gif

Congrats !
Ry4n
Congrats Gila !!
bigmacmtl
congrats gila (without any sarcasm)
acid911
QUOTE (Nova @ Mar 3 2008, 03:37 AM)
Gila a dad ??  well he finally produced something !!
Congrats !

Lol, early contender for quote of the year. Though admittedly he had the support of a second striker this time around. innocent.gif But I'm happy for the man! Let's hope he still gives something to Milan, when we most need him.
MizNelson
Ginevra? Whoever picked the name must be a Harry Potter fan.

I can just picture her being introduced as Ginny Gilardino. Milan DID want a Gigi, now they've got it. smile.gif
whoarethepatriots
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 3 2008, 03:23 AM)
Ginevra? Whoever picked the name must be a Harry Potter fan.

I can just picture her being introduced as Ginny Gilardino. Milan DID want a Gigi, now they've got it. smile.gif
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I was thinking the same thing tongue.gif

Anyways, congrats to Gila
Zed.D
QUOTE (Nova @ Mar 3 2008, 02:07 AM)
Gila a dad ??  well he finally produced something !! tongue.gif
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I'm not sure! ohmy.gif



Congrats to Gila. but that won't make people any softer towards his sh1tty performances. he better lift himself before it's too late.
armiss
ON HINDSIGHT
3/21/2008 2:00:00 PM



Three years ago they wrote that Gilardino was the future of Milan, he was the best and most ruthless finisher in the penalty area. Now they ask why he should be bought. These are not two different newspapers, it is the same one.

The Gazzetta dello Sport of today takes the top award. The previous episodes are nothing when compared to those who end their accusation on Milan with: Gilardino, why buy him? Yes, why buy him? Good question, to which Milan does not pull back. Milan responds strongly and clearly, remind the same Gazzetta and all the Rossoneri fans what the main Italian daily sports newspaper was writing on July 19 2005, the day after the official announced of the arrival of Gila with the Rossoneri’s shirt. On that day Franco Arturi wrote: “Gilardino fills up the only (relative) hole in the Rossoneri’s army. This player gathers all the best qualities of the Milan attackers. A player who projects the future of the club in his 23 years of age. The economic contents of this move are quite acceptable, if the still not famous Shaun Wright-Phillips cost 31 million Euros to Chelsea, 7 more than Gilardino who seems much stronger right now.” Luigi Garlando highlights the tactical aspect: “From today, Carlo Ancelotti starts to coach Alberto Gilardino, that is the best he could hope for his attack. With Gilardino, Milan found a ruthless finisher of the penalty area; a cobra ready to bite every ball. Gilardino, who has a dense muscular structure, can hold the strength of the defenders; he can arrive to the shot after winning an aerial or acrobatic duel. Gilardino was handed the old job of the penalty area strikers, who in front of goal floated like in an aquarium. Gilardino knows the pivot art, he knows what to do with a short assist, there is no better attacker to play with his shoulders to the goal.”

Three years ago all of this was said, now why buy him? They seems two different newspapers, instead it’s the same one.

In any case, everything is clear: these, summaries from the Gazzetta of almost three years ago, are the reasons for which Alberto Gilardino was purchased.

Instead of asking provocative questions, it would have been enough to take a look at its own news in the days that the entire Italian football had seen as a great purchase.

We acknowledge that the performance of Milan in the league can lead to a lot of criticism, but this operation on Gilardino has just one purpose: talking on hindsight. Without coherence. If it’s so evident that this was a bad transfer, it would have been correct if a great newspaper had signaled it straight away. They cannot do so three years later, after that three years ago first they had praised him so much.





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