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post Apr 23 2008, 05:04 PM
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It so easy to blame Gila for our situation isn't it? I blame the management not Gila, Dida or Ba if those guys are failing it's their fault, they didn't find a real replacement for Sheva, Rui Costa and Stam. Instead of buying some real talent we signed the likes of Bonera, Oliveira and Oddo (who never was Milan quality and never will!)
Gila problem is the fact that he can't be our main stiker, the one who can lift the team when it's needed and the who can lead the attack single handed, he may be give everything he has, but some times it's just not enough. However, I'm convinced that if he find a complementary partner (like sheva) he'll be good again!
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post Apr 23 2008, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 23 2008, 05:04 PM)
It so easy to blame Gila for our situation isn't it? I blame the management not Gila, Dida or Ba if those guys are failing it's their fault, they didn't find a real replacement for Sheva, Rui Costa and Stam. Instead of buying some real talent we signed the likes of Bonera, Oliveira and Oddo (who never was Milan quality and never will!)
Gila problem is the fact that he can't be our main stiker, the one who can lift the team when it's needed and the who can lead the attack single handed, he may be give everything he has, but some times it's just not enough. However, I'm convinced that if he find a complementary partner (like sheva) he'll be good again!
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Gila's problem is that he has no individual qualities that can help us. Im not talking about the goals , just his lack of ... everything !

People tend to compare gila with inzaghi. but when inzaghi gets the ball outside the box , he at least tries to create something. Gila always bounces the ball right back cause he knows he cant go past the defending player , then he runs inside the box waiting to tap it in.

Every player (defender , midfielder , etc ...) got to have some individual class to earn him a spot in a team like Milan. A player has to bring some sort of value to the team , you cant depend on others and use it as an excuse for your poor performances.

Even an inbox striker should have some technical qualities . at least when you're playing for Milan.
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post Apr 23 2008, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Apr 23 2008, 05:24 PM)
Gila's problem is that he has no individual qualities that can help us. Im not talking about the goals , just his lack of ... everything !
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That's not true, he has quatilies. Actually I'm convinced that he has a better overall technique than Pippo! He tried more than once to be usefull for the team by playing a role that he doesn't know, like and never knew before.
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post Apr 23 2008, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 23 2008, 05:51 PM)
That's not true, he has quatilies. Actually I'm convinced that he has a better overall technique than Pippo! He tried more than once to be usefull for the team by playing a role that he doesn't know, like and never knew before.
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That I doubt , and in the end he's had soooooo many chances to prove me and all of us wrong.
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post Apr 23 2008, 07:04 PM
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Haha thanks...it was a pic i got on the net from an episode of The Simpsons which Ronaldo was on (he was wearing a Brazil uniform in the pic which i edited originally tho)
I used paint on the computer and made it an Ac one! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I think the time of the episode release was around the time Milan were negotiating for him (too bad he wasn't an offical Milan player as yet, i wouldn't have had to edit it on my own) *Bcuz he was in real madrid uniform in the episode as well*

Ohh well!
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post Apr 23 2008, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Apr 23 2008, 08:00 PM)
That I doubt , and in the end he's had soooooo many chances to prove me and all of us wrong.
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3 seasons and he hasn't done a third of what us fans have expected of him.

As Tennie said, the shirt is just too heavy for him. And this is so common, many players who come to play at the big clubs fail to live up to expectation.
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post Apr 24 2008, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Apr 23 2008, 06:00 PM)
That I doubt , and in the end he's had soooooo many chances to prove me and all of us wrong.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 23 2008, 07:19 PM)
3 seasons and he hasn't done a third of what us fans have expected of him.

As Tennie said, the shirt is just too heavy for him. And this is so common, many players who come to play at the big clubs fail to live up to expectation.
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I persist, for me Gila has more technique and is more complete than Pippo. Does it mean that he's Milan quality? No. Does it mean that he can take mentally? No. Does it mean that he had good time at Milan? No.
But what I think is that he could be a very good and useful sub, and a good starter if we find a good partner for him, the question is, will he accept to be a bench player, until that partner comes or mature (Pato)? I don't think so.
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post Apr 24 2008, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 23 2008, 07:15 AM)
I am only guessing Pakistan (cuz u thing says far far away)
And well u said u like cricket
But first thing that came to mind with the pics was i saw bush and not sure who the other guy was...then i saw australia and team i wasnt sure exaclty who it was and the donkey cart so i figured it was near india maybe!
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Well, you guessed right, mate. Good on you! Pakistan it is. I like cricket, that guy alongside Bush was our own version of Bush (known here as President Musharraf). The second picture was of a 7-star hotel and landmark under construction here in Islamabad. The third was my national cricket team against the Aussies. And finally the donkey cart picture could very well be from one of our remote towns. But it was all good for a laugh. Or two. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Having said that, it feels nice to see such a diverse fanbase for our club. It's all over the world, from Eskimos to the tropical beaches of Caribbean. Plus, even better that we have members from the four corners of the planet. There have been some great members who've signed up since the registrations were re-opened, and TriniKing_CE you're one of the best! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 23 2008, 08:55 AM)
lol that was entertaining trini and acid.  good job +1
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Thanks, Blue. I didn't quite want to put these images in Gila's official player thread, but couldn't resist. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 23 2008, 01:11 PM)
You're from trinidad??!!! Awesome....the land of Brian Lara!!!!
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Jack, Jack. Lara was quite a player, wasn't he? Quite a worthy contender for your "Pirate of the Caribbean" title, huh? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

QUOTE (dst @ Apr 23 2008, 02:43 PM)
Eco-friendly? I wanna see if India will still be there in 50 years with this Tata Nano of yours!
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Well to be honest the only thing I don't like about India is the explosive population growth. I mean, it's a good thing they run all those birth control and family planning ads over there, otherwise we could very well be looking at 2 billion people by 2050. Or even before. With the same (or shrinking) resources that could be quite a mouthful. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Apr 24 2008, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 23 2008, 11:04 PM)
Haha thanks...it was a pic i got on the net from an episode of The Simpsons which Ronaldo was on (he was wearing a Brazil uniform in the pic which i edited originally tho)
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Lol, I remember that episode, Trin. Downright hilarious stuff! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 24 2008, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 23 2008, 07:52 PM)
Well, you guessed right, mate. Good on you! Pakistan it is. I like cricket, that guy alongside Bush was our own version of Bush (known here as President Musharraf). The second picture was of a 7-star hotel and landmark under construction here in Islamabad. The third was my national cricket team against the Aussies. And finally the donkey cart picture could very well be from one of our remote towns. But it was all good for a laugh. Or two. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Having said that, it feels nice to see such a diverse fanbase for our club. It's all over the world, from Eskimos to the tropical beaches of Caribbean. Plus, even better that we have members from the four corners of the planet. There have been some great members who've signed up since the registrations were re-opened, and TriniKing_CE you're one of the best! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Thanks, Blue. I didn't quite want to put these images in Gila's official player thread, but couldn't resist. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
Jack, Jack. Lara was quite a player, wasn't he? Quite a worthy contender for your "Pirate of the Caribbean" title, huh? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
Well to be honest the only thing I don't like about India is the explosive population growth. I mean, it's a good thing they run all those birth control and family planning ads over there, otherwise we could very well be looking at 2 billion people by 2050. Or even before. With the same (or shrinking) resources that could be quite a mouthful. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Thanks for the info concerning all the pics, the sad part is i have heard ur president's name b4 just that i usually don't follow news all that much to have realised (dont feel bad tho i hardly even know all the current affairs in my own little island) not jus around the the globe. - LOL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
And concerning ur other posts yess i too am glad to see the fanbase so wide globally! Also happy to know that u consider me one of the best 'new members' (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Lets see what else...yess Lara is quite a well know living legend - i proud hes from trini as well.
And last last but not least i have to say this is quite an intresting Gila Forum (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Apr 24 2008, 05:26 AM
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Well to be honest the only thing I don't like about India is the explosive population growth. I mean, it's a good thing they run all those birth control and family planning ads over there, otherwise we could very well be looking at 2 billion people by 2050. Or even before. With the same (or shrinking) resources that could be quite a mouthful.


It wasn't me... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The population is no longer a huge worry actually. Since now, even the politicians are sick of corruption, and believe they can squeeze more out of opening up the economy than pillaging the farmers.


Most importantly the widerspread viewing of news channels mean leaders now have to be mroe transparent. So all in all, India is doing relatively well. Another 20 years to really become developed though. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 24 2008, 05:29 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 23 2008, 09:37 PM)

I actually never saw the entire episode - only a snipet on youtube
Then i came across a picture and I thaught to my self 'hey i can use this' - LOL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 24 2008, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 24 2008, 12:03 AM)
I persist, for me Gila has more technique and is more complete than Pippo. Does it mean that he's Milan quality? No. Does it mean that he can take mentally? No. Does it mean that he had good time at Milan? No.
But what I think is that he could be a very good and useful sub, and a good starter if we find a good partner for him, the question is, will he accept to be a bench player, until that partner comes or mature (Pato)? I don't think so.
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Again , im not talking about his goals. Just him and his football skills. Wheter he is playing alone or with a striking partner. Just leave his lack of goals aside for a bit.

Lets talk about technique. Maybe he is more techincal gifted then Pippo , but do you see any of it on the field ? When was the last time you saw Gila making a remarkable move ?? Why was he succesfull at Parma , cause every player was playing for him. Yes he scored 25 goals , but Parma also almost got relegated. At Milan we cant do that , every player has his duty. Wheter its defence , midfield or attack. At Milan he came for a lot of money , and that brings great responsibility too. I dont like booing players that play for Milan , but when I see Gila being started ever since sheva left , and he cant do anything right. NO pass , no free kick , no dribble , no shoot , nothing !! unless its presented to him like a pig with an apple in his mouth on a big plate. And then he expect admiration for it ? NO , you play at milan , the greatest club in the world and people are fed up for him to see him lacking basic skills and then blaming it on the rest.

He is a leach , cant perform without others helping him. And even when sometimes Milan was playing great , he was screwing it up too.

If an old Pippo can take his spot , if even an 18 yr old kid can bench him from the very first second he played ... that says a lot .

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I'm not talking about his goals (to me more than half of them were lucky!), and I see your point when you say he's under performing, I agree with you but I don't think he's playing like a child because he's cr@p, skill-less or just not good for Milan. I think he's having a dab season because Milan are in trouble, not playing well and in desperate need of points ans a saviour. The thing is Gila is no saviour, he's not a leading striker you can count on when it comes to be decisive, he's mentally weak and can't stand the pressure. Does that make him a bad player? Of course not, he chokes under pressure and lose all his qualities but you can't say that he's not Milan worthy. As I said before, he could be a very good sub and with the right partner a good starter. If he accepts the bench and wants to fight then he's more than welcome, but if not he better goes away, that's what I trying to say because I'm more than convinced that in a good and healthy environment he can his old self again!
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post Apr 24 2008, 03:38 PM
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I've no doubt Gila would do well if he moved to another club. He's a decent player at times, but he hasn't done enough in the Milan jersey to warrent a stay in my opinion.

It's not the managements fault either - most were delighted when his arrival was announced, and hailed him as the 'missing piece' of the Milan jigsaw.

Football is a funny old game.
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