Did you not read the last sentence!

There's also a difference. In a World Cup, I'd probably throw up due to nerves. There really is no excuse to miss one in a friendly.


Exactly. If you can't kick a ball accurately from 12 yards then you shouldn't be a footballer. I'd probably excuse hitting the post as obviously people can't be 100% perfect everytime and hitting the post is a near perfect penalty.

And in a friendly no one really cares that much, its still the same concept

it's a friendly we can miss we lost ... but it's not the same as terry's miss in the final of UCL ... and it's the same as england's ... pft !!!!

Are you trying to disagree with me or what, because you've basically said the exact same thing: Terry (Funny how nobody mentions Ronaldo missing and Anelka's miss which decided the game, how odd. ) missed in a big game, he had pressure. There's no pressure here so no reason at all to miss.

I think everyone forgets the run-up of penalties, only the player that missed the decider gets the worst of it, and sadly that was Terry.

Like in the Istanbul final, everyone forgets that it was Pirlo and Serginho that automatically ruined our shot at winning the shoot out by missing the first 2 spot kicks, people only remember that Sheva missed the decider

Dinho is god of penatlies PERIOD.

Anelka's miss was no less decisive.

Yes, but at the end of the day it was Terry that got the brunt of it not Anelka

You basically just proved my point. Anelka's penalty was EXACTLY the same as Sheva's, miss as you lose the cup. Yet for some reason it's Terry that gets the blame.

Anelka's penalty was the most decisive as it decided the game.

No Anelka missed the chance to win it while Terry's penalty put the nail in the coffin. Just like Sheva's miss.

I think there is a big difference between the 2 and why Terry got most of the slack for missing his.

In my view a miss is a miss and you can't look at them separately. Anelka's, Terry's and Christine's misses are, they way I see it, as big as each other.

I agree with you 100% which is what kurt is also saying and I agree with him to.

But the reason I'm saying the 2 scenarios are completely different is because that's the way the media percieves them and that is how they get fed to the people that observe that media. Because this is what kurt implied I think when he said that Terry got all the slack for his miss while Anelka's was forgotten as if it didn't mean anything. I was trying to project how the media and most people to be honest see these things as black and white and not take everything into account

No, really, you have it wrong. Terry had the chance to win it, but Anelka mised the decisive penalty - just like Sheva.

The shootout

As you see, Anelka takes the final penalty.

You see it that way yes. But like I said in my post above, most people who only see these thing is black and white will tell you that it was Terry's penalty that ended the shootout and handed the trophy to Man U, but because Chelsea still had the chance to win it after Anelka's miss people forgot it because it got jumbled between the other penalties.

I'm not saying you're wrong in fact I agree with you 100% but this is the way things are seen by the general public and most importantly by the media. So the morning after you will not see the headline "Anelka loses it for Chelsea" but you'll see "Terry loses it for Chelsea"

I think you're still getting the order of the penalties mixed up. Chelsea did not have a chance to win it after Anelkas penalty, his miss was what decided the game, it was the final penalty.

I'm watching the video you posted now, and it seems I did mix up the order of the penalties I really thought that it was Terry who got the final kick in the sudden death, but it was the other way around...

I think they targeted Terry so much because it was such a dramatical miss with the slipping and having it practically already in his hands...

And I really had it in my mind that it was Terry who missed the final one because he was such a focus and Anelka wasn't. Well I think we can all conclude that had that been Gerard in his place Anelka would have surely got all the slack and then some

...No one knows?!

^^ We could ask Pato himself there may be a way to communicate with him through his website. in that case we'd only need someone who speaks Portuguese, or Italian...

I'd also beg him not to do heart-shaped hand celebration anymore!

If someone wants to formulate a question, I'll ask it in Italian.

I would offer my portuguese skills, but sadly I'm not that good yet to ask questions.

And speaking of Portuguese, Milan's next friendly is in Lisbon. They're going there to play Benfica in the Eusebio Cup this coming Saturday.

Training resumes today.

Is it safe to say that my hopes for this game isn't that high?

You too?
Join the line...

We should form a club.

I can make spiffy club membership cards and everything.

At least they'll be playing in a really nice stadium. Luz is very pretty, quite new (built in 2004), has palm trees outside, and is a good place to watch a football game.

Plus, there are some really excellent pastries to be had in Lisbon.

what do you guys think will happen in this game win or loss or draw ?

I think we gonna win win. Players had time to take rest and prepare to play agaist Benfica.

I never really care about the results in pre-season, but despite what Zambro has said recently, I still think putting in decent performances is important. Maybe fatigue has played a factor, who knows.

As long as everyone gives 110% in this game (and we don't pick up any injuries), I'll be happy.

I think the fact that the team had more then a couple of hours to rest between games will more then show.

Whoever planned this pre-season schedule should be asked to play as much games in such little time and see how he feels

i think we will win 1-0 either Huntelaar or Ronaldinho

MILANO - Sono 20 i convocati per l'Eusebio Cup:
Kalac, Storari; Antonini, Favalli, Jankulovski, Nesta, Oddo, Onyewu, T. Silva, Zambrotta; Abate, Flamini, Pirlo, Strasser; Borriello, Di Gennaro, Harmony, Pato, Ronaldinho, Zigoni.


why viduez and cardaccio never called up are they injured or useless or will be loaned or sold???

Most probably they're going to be sold/loaned...

correct. That will happen probably next week.

There's been talk about the uruguyans being liked by Udine and then again by one or the other of the spanish clubs (can't recall which). They'll almost certainly depart either on loan or as permanent sale.

As a note, a bunch of guys trained separately today so Fishdoll suspects it'll be a strange mutant lineup in Lisbon.

Huntelaar will make his debut in the berlusconi cup. He said that today on media set. Can't wait Hopefully we see silvestri and hernanes then as well

yeah berlusconi cup again, i remember whacking out juve&inter last yr. hope we win the league as well, lets not become arsenal who seek solace in winning pre- season stuff only

So yeah, mutant lineup time.

Apparently Ronaldinho was spotted out at the Latin American Music Festival in Milan at 1:30 am. Fans recognized him and a couple suggested he might want to go to bed given that he had morning training the next day. This on top of the weekend trip and party-til-dawn in barcelona has - so Gazzetta reports - Not Pleased Leonardo who may bench him for the Benfica game.

According to those reports Dida was with him.

I don't think he will be benched.

Everyone likes to unwind in his own way, if Dinho likes to go out in his own free time then that is up to him, a lot of other players do the same thing

Not when they're training, dude, and not twice in the same week during training. If there's a free day the next day then cool, but partying til 2am is probably not the best thing physically for a professional athlete.

It's the Festival Latinoamericano, which is held in August in Milan every year. That means it's going to attract - hold your breath - Brazilians.

And what were the buttinsky Milan fans themselves doing there at that time of night anyway? I'm no fan of Dinho but they need to mind their own business.

Still his own time to do as he pleases with. No one tells me or you not to go out on a week night because we have to work in the morning, even though I might stay late and have a hell day at work the next day. Even if they are professional athletes that does not mean they have to be prisoners to their work.

A lot of players go out and party on week nights, I'm not going to say its wrong when its their time to do as they please with

When their forms starts slipping and their late nights are showing on the field is when it starts getting problematic.


Exactly.

Why Dinho is on the bench ?

he'll play second half. Leo has to see how things are without dinho if he gets injured.

well were just getting owned. Di maria is sick.

Thiago Silva was definitely a good purchase. He's playing nesta like right now

Abate as Right back ? and Zambro as Left

Thank god we signed huntelaar. Borriello is just terrible!

no abate is wing.

The game is underway?

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