il_diavolo_mtl
Jan 24 2011, 06:36 PM
i doubt we get Criscito. Genoa would be mad to get rid of him... They have simply lost too many players in defense last summer.
X-Offender
Jan 24 2011, 08:04 PM
Well, they got Antonelli from Parma as leftback, so it's not like they lack options in that department.
Fillipo Simone
Jan 24 2011, 08:14 PM
Big problem. It's not just tuttosport. It's all over Mediaset as well - Milan after Marc van Bommel.
Fillipo Simone
Jan 24 2011, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 24 2011, 08:04 PM)

Well, they got Antonelli from Parma as leftback, so it's not like they lack options in that department.
Problem is, Antonelli got injured. But we're still in talk. According to Mediaset, the deal could be ended in our favor.
Initially Papa was goona play a bargain chip, but Nestas injury pulled it aside. That's good because Papa was very good yesterday.
Dracoris
Jan 24 2011, 08:25 PM
http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=43749MN says only need a signature, all agreements made. Year and a half contract. FML we don't need this guy.
The only videos I can find on youtube are Van Bommel being a total douche. Why? Why are we going for this guy? No class at all! Surely that money can be used somewhere else!
Fillipo Simone
Jan 24 2011, 08:42 PM
He is a douche, just like Ibrahimovic is. Honestly, the only difference is that Ibra is world class and this one just isn't.
I've been watching him ever since he came to Bayern. Can't say he did them some harm really. So, even if the whole story is bad and I don't like the thought of him at Milanello, let's give the guy a fair chance.
Worst thing is, we have a pretty young coach who now has to deal with a Molotow-cocktail called Ibra-Cassano-Robinho-van Bommel.
acid911
Jan 24 2011, 08:58 PM
Whatever opinion we may have of the guy, logically speaking, he still has some fuel left in his tank.

He may be our Lucio, albeit one who prowls the midfield. I am okay with his signing if it comes through, MVB will do well for another 2-3 years at the top level. And besides, he is the smoothest criminal I have ever seen when it comes to tackling. The guy can pull all sorts of shenanigans, and the referee won't even pull out a yellow.
But I agree with Fillipo in the sense that he keeps his shenanigans on the pitch, and not blow up in the dressing room. And I have got a felling he won't. The guy knows that this his probably his last chance at top flight football, after which he'll wind up. That's the reason why Bayern Munich have made a policy of not singing/renewing contracts of players over the age of 30.

And that's why all the hoopla of Schweinsteiger renewing with them for what 6 years recently. So essentially he will be with them till the age of 32. Good policy to have on hand, and that is one reason why we are signing MVB in the first place. The Germans would probably have kept him on for another year or two - he is there captain, after all.
And frankly the way Gattuso and Ambro have fallen out of steam lately, we could use another pair of feet.

Sure it could have been anyone else, but at least a new face is arriving, and this shows that B&G are dead sure that they want to win the league title this year. And this also shows that Allegri's days could be numbered real low if he fails in that. What with all the signings the management has made. Scudetto or nothing seems to be the call. And me likey!
William405
Jan 24 2011, 09:10 PM
I agree with Fillipo,let's judge him according to what he does here.You can probably look out videos of most players being Douches...I think he's better than Ambrosini,although I'm not a fan of the player.
ForzaMaldini
Jan 24 2011, 09:20 PM
I disagree with the most of you. Current standard midfield: Gattuso, Ambro, Pirlo. Van Bommel is good at defending and he can acutally also play a good pass and be present in the offence.
I always liked Van Bommel. Not just because he's dutch but he's a really good midfielder. He was (imo) the best player for his national team in the WC and he's very important for Bayern. He is 33 yo but we will sign him for 1.5 years and we will pay a transfer fee of 2 mil max.
If we sign him and someone like Cricito this week I will make a Milan jersey with the name 'Galliani' and #1 on the back.
William405
Jan 24 2011, 09:37 PM
Let's see what will happen in the next 7 days.This will be interesting.
CHU-LIP
Jan 24 2011, 09:40 PM
I agree with ForzaMaldini, except for that I hate Van Bommel. Thing what bothers me is that we now have a lot DM's earning a lot together, but mostly it's really a shame for Strasser. Maybe we should loan him out now. Now we have signed Van Bommel it makes less sense to renew Ambrosini's contract, though I rather want to keep Ambrosini and see Gattuso leave but his contract is not ending. Even though we have very good DM's, Van Bommel is better than all of them which partly has to do with him being a good passer for a DM.
Van Bommel, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Flamini and Strasser. That are 5 DM's, and all are good enough to start games for us. Strasser needs to play to develop, and the other 4 earn like they should be starters. 3 are very old, and Strasser is the young one and really looking like a future starting DM for us. He should get minutes, if not here, then I guess somewhere else for now.
ForzaMaldini
Jan 24 2011, 10:01 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 24 2011, 09:40 PM)

I agree with ForzaMaldini, except for that I hate Van Bommel. Thing what bothers me is that we now have a lot DM's earning a lot together, but mostly it's really a shame for Strasser. Maybe we should loan him out now. Now we have signed Van Bommel it makes less sense to renew Ambrosini's contract, though I rather want to keep Ambrosini and see Gattuso leave but his contract is not ending. Even though we have very good DM's, Van Bommel is better than all of them which partly has to do with him being a good passer for a DM.
Van Bommel, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Flamini and Strasser. That are 5 DM's, and all are good enough to start games for us. Strasser needs to play to develop, and the other 4 earn like they should be starters. 3 are very old, and Strasser is the young one and really looking like a future starting DM for us. He should get minutes, if not here, then I guess somewhere else for now.
Also my thought at the beginning. If this goes trough we have: Ambro, Rino, Pirlo, Boa, Flamini, Strasser, Merkel, Emanuelson, vBommel and Seedorf on midfield.
This will cost the development of Strasser and Merkel for us. That's the bad news. The good news is that we have a solution for our current midfield problem. Against Cesena we had NO midfielders on the bench and a central defender had to play on midfield.
Dracoris
Jan 24 2011, 10:12 PM
We've also made three signings this Winter and none of them can play in the CL. It really is Scudetto or nothing.
dst
Jan 24 2011, 10:51 PM
two things... can somebody please tell me why we need this guy? I don't understand this signing AT ALL.
and...

(something extra: at this rate Inter will be more likeable next season!)
Fillipo Simone
Jan 24 2011, 11:15 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 24 2011, 10:51 PM)

two things... can somebody please tell me why we need this guy? I don't understand this signing AT ALL.
and...
(something extra: at this rate Inter will be more likeable next season!)Not even a starting XI with all Marc van Bommels would make me feel that way!
But, you did subconciously reminded me: can we all here reach an agreement and keep MvB reserved for the one and only, true MvB, namely Marco van Basten, and call the other guy Marc, Bommel, vB or however

?
X-Offender
Jan 24 2011, 11:21 PM
Hm, I don't know what to make of this. Personally, I'd have given faith to Strasser. He's shown he has reached that maturity needed to play at important levels. Signing van Bommel means slamming the door in his face. Besides, the guy is 33 years old. Now we have a midfield overpopulated by ancient people: Gattuso (33), Ambrosini (33), van Bommel (33), Seedorf (34). That looks ugly.
CHU-LIP
Jan 24 2011, 11:39 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2011, 12:21 AM)

Hm, I don't know what to make of this. Personally, I'd have given faith to Strasser. He's shown he has reached that maturity needed to play at important levels. Signing van Bommel means slamming the door in his face. Besides, the guy is 33 years old. Now we have a midfield overpopulated by ancient people: Gattuso (33), Ambrosini (33), van Bommel (33), Seedorf (34). That looks ugly.
Agreed. It saddens me thinking about Strasser might rarely be playing from now on.
With Ambrosini and Strasser, but also Flamini and Gattuso, there is no need to sign Van Bommel.
Dracoris
Jan 25 2011, 12:18 AM
Its not a done deal yet, lets hold out hope. Galliani has earned my faith recently.
Fillipo Simone
Jan 25 2011, 12:44 AM
Strasser can be loaned out. He's been lately very good and it would be a pitty to loose him. But I see what Allegri wants with van Bommel. Gattuso and Ambrosini this season partly played awful because Allegri demands from them to deliver in the offensive part as well, more then they ever had to do. Van Bommel on the other hand is more closer to make that happen. For instance, in Bayerns recent victory over Kaiserslautern he made a brilliant pass forward and delivered more or less a constant quality to the attack and defense. This is why this buy IMO is a tactical asset for Allegris vision of Milan.
Aside from that, I still believe van Bommel would be the one contribute in matches against hard opposition, rather then the green boys - Merkel and Strasser. Remember Kaka - he instantly promoted himself into a star, gaining Ancelottis faith not only against the likes of Siena, Ascoli or Perugia, but also against strong opposition. Same did Pato, to a lesser degree. Merkel and Strasser were yet tested against a inferior and much weaker opponent. We should not be fooled to make a rash and imprudent judgment.
As for Ambrosini and Gattuso, I have my own logic, which I assume won't be very popular. I see them as team captains, and while both could be well past their prime, I believe it is instrumental to start one of the two always (when avaible) and against any opposition. They still can make a difference, and they still make their job on a high level.
X-Offender
Jan 25 2011, 03:00 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 25 2011, 01:44 AM)

Aside from that, I still believe van Bommel would be the one contribute in matches against hard opposition, rather then the green boys - Merkel and Strasser. Remember Kaka - he instantly promoted himself into a star, gaining Ancelottis faith not only against the likes of Siena, Ascoli or Perugia, but also against strong opposition. Same did Pato, to a lesser degree. Merkel and Strasser were yet tested against a inferior and much weaker opponent. We should not be fooled to make a rash and imprudent judgment.
Odd comparison you're doing there. Merkel and Strasser are lights away from Kaka' and Pato in terms of talent.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 25 2011, 01:44 AM)

As for Ambrosini and Gattuso, I have my own logic, which I assume won't be very popular. I see them as team captains, and while both could be well past their prime, I believe it is instrumental to start one of the two always (when avaible) and against any opposition. They still can make a difference, and they still make their job on a high level.
By one of them you mean Ambrosini. Gattuso is just dead meat.
Jack Sparrow
Jan 25 2011, 06:57 AM
Both Ambro and Rino have lots to give this team. We all saw what Ambro can do last season. And this season Rino has been immense.
Remember we are keeping all our contract renewals for later this season. I'm sure Rino and Ambro have reached that stage where they're no longer playing for the money. If they renew it will be for maybe a million per season, or else they'll quit to play in the Middle East or something for some more money.
I don't want Van Bommel. I'd rather we spent 18 million and got Nuri Sahin. He's a Turk so he's probably a bit odd, but at least he's young and gifted. Van Bommel is a cynical player. A genetic freak from the Dutch school. Seedorf is from Surinam and he's more of a Dutch footballer than Bommel.
@acid: I swear you call Van Bommel by the holy initials again and I will personally shitkick you to the Allianz Arena.
acid911
Jan 25 2011, 07:31 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 25 2011, 10:57 AM)

Both Ambro and Rino have lots to give this team. We all saw what Ambro can do last season. And this season Rino has been immense.
Yeah, but will they last till the end of season?

Ambro barely lasted 75 minutes in our last match. Both Rino and Ambro when fresh at the start of the year have lots to offer, but injuries, dip in form and most of all fatigue kicks in towards the business end of the season. It is for times like these that B&G are looking to reinforce. I personally love the January transfer market, smooth shopping, baby!
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 25 2011, 10:57 AM)

I'd rather we spent 18 million and got Nuri Sahin.
There is a marked difference between 18 million and the 0.5-1 million we are paying for Senior Bommel.

Point being that this is a very short term solution, a safety patch for the next six months, or at most one-and-a-half years. Agreed on Nuri Sahin, though. It's about time Milan looked towards the top crop of Asia and Africa. Young, talented players from there don't cost an arm and a leg.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 25 2011, 10:57 AM)

@acid: I swear you call Van Bommel by the holy initials again and I will personally shitkick you to the Allianz Arena.

I said MVB for the big ego dude that is incoming.

Van Basten will always be the original MvB. The way the initials are meant to be written. But you and Fillipo are right, let's leave these for the original legend.
PS. Allianz Arena, mmm.

Nothing like it!
il_diavolo_mtl
Jan 25 2011, 07:37 AM
MvB#2 > 2(gatusso+ambro)
kurtsimonw
Jan 25 2011, 12:16 PM
It's just not good. I hate the guy, he's up there with El Hadji Diouf as one of my most hated people in football. Not happy.
armiss
Jan 25 2011, 12:37 PM
i dont like van bommel but we need some experienced good fighters for stronger back up !
arivanjj
Jan 25 2011, 12:52 PM
horrible news. he's a prick. hopefully he'll just be another emerson case.
X-Offender
Jan 25 2011, 01:09 PM
It's official, van Bommel signed with us till June 2011. So it's only for six months.
Jack Sparrow
Jan 25 2011, 01:09 PM
It's official. And reports are we're signing him only till the end of this season. Seems he had a major falling out with the brass there.
FC Bayern Site
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 25 2011, 01:25 PM
i hate this player so much....
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 25 2011, 01:28 PM
anyways intersting remakrs by gallaini about ganso.
Fishdoll
Jan 25 2011, 01:38 PM
Ry4n
Jan 25 2011, 02:10 PM
It's only until the end of the season of which i'm glad.
X-Offender
Jan 25 2011, 02:31 PM
Santos: "Milan in advantage on Ganso"Basically, one of Santos' officials says that both Milan and Inter are interested in Ganso, but Galliani has moved very well and a deal could be reached for July.
Hopefully we'll have the new trequartista we need.
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 25 2011, 03:07 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2011, 01:31 PM)

Santos: "Milan in advantage on Ganso"Basically, one of Santos' officials says that both Milan and Inter are interested in Ganso, but Galliani has moved very well and a deal could be reached for July.
Hopefully we'll have the new trequartista we need.

yea even gallaini said that he was not in brazil for holiday
RinoIlCapitano
Jan 25 2011, 05:09 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 25 2011, 02:07 PM)

yea even gallaini said that he was not in brazil for holiday

yep, i saw that, he is a total legend, and about Van Bomel, i hate the guy but maybe he can give milan something that allegri need, maybe this is just depth i dont know but if he is so bad he will be benched, end of story! But with that move i hope that Urby will now play a LB and not in midfield which is excellent news!
il_diavolo_mtl
Jan 25 2011, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Jan 25 2011, 11:09 AM)

yep, i saw that, he is a total legend, and about Van Bomel, i hate the guy but maybe he can give milan something that allegri need, maybe this is just depth i dont know but if he is so bad he will be benched, end of story! But with that move i hope that Urby will now play a LB and not in midfield which is excellent news!
not really... he is better suited as a mid
X-Offender
Jan 25 2011, 05:24 PM
Emanuelson chose #28 and van Bommel #4 on their shirts. Thank god they didn't get #65 and #83 or something.
Dracoris
Jan 25 2011, 05:25 PM
From everything I've read Emmy has much more promise going foward.
RinoIlCapitano
Jan 25 2011, 08:42 PM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 25 2011, 05:14 PM)

not really... he is better suited as a mid
yep i agree but he is a million time better than antonini in this form on LB, dont you think?
X-Offender
Jan 25 2011, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Jan 25 2011, 09:42 PM)

yep i agree but he is a million time better than antonini in this form on LB, dont you think?
+1
Boban10
Jan 25 2011, 11:53 PM
Urby i am happy with, i think he can do a good job at LB, Van Bommel worries me, five years ago i would have said hell yes! But after world cup he just looks like a thug who has lost pace and thinks he can mow down the opposition player if he feels like it, and in any way possible (sniper rifle, two footed tackle to the throat, etc, etc add your own viscious fouls here). Fingers crossed i am wrong, Dr Galliani has worked wonders this season and maybe i should put my faith in him.
Forza Milan!
X-Offender
Jan 26 2011, 12:25 AM
Guys, remember we signed him for only 6 months. If he performs like crap, then we simply won't renew his contract. Either way, he's an addition to the squad, and could become useful in cases of emergency.
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 26 2011, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2011, 11:25 PM)

Guys, remember we signed him for only 6 months. If he performs like crap, then we simply won't renew his contract. Either way, he's an addition to the squad, and could become useful in cases of emergency.
i think we are in one as well he could be useful rite now
X-Offender
Jan 26 2011, 12:27 AM
Exactly.
TriniKing_CE
Jan 26 2011, 12:29 AM
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n...d%26id%3D250059England: AC Milan is close to AlexWith more and more probable arrival of David Luiz, Chelsea is considering whether to give AC Milan Brazilian defender Alex. We have just made official for the purchase of the defender of Benfica, the Blues have only to choose which player to give Lusitanian as partial compensation technique, the Ansa news agency writes. The next few hours crucial for the fate of Luiz, including the knowledge that the next move by the Blues to transfer to AC Milan do not rule out the Brazilian Alex could not find more room at Stamford Bridge.
Link: http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=250059

Why couldn't we try for David Luiz as well?
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 26 2011, 12:32 AM
would not mind alex
X-Offender
Jan 26 2011, 12:40 AM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jan 26 2011, 01:29 AM)


Why couldn't we try for David Luiz as well?
Because he costs way too much.
I'd rather take Ivanovic or Bosingwa instead of Alex.
TriniKing_CE
Jan 26 2011, 12:50 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2011, 07:40 PM)

Because he costs way too much.
I'd rather take Ivanovic or Bosingwa instead of Alex.
I guess so..
But either of these 3 are fine with me.
First off though, Bonera needs to go.
Jack Bauer
Jan 26 2011, 01:33 AM
Alex is too injury prone. We need somebody more stable for long term.
il_diavolo_mtl
Jan 26 2011, 07:00 AM
QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Jan 25 2011, 02:42 PM)

yep i agree but he is a million time better than antonini in this form on LB, dont you think?
he offers much more attacking, no doubt but the Eredevise Isn't necessarily known for Defensive defensemen. He will be a liability in defense if played at LB
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