Pippo as sub is a luxury. But at 37, having such a serious injury... I just don't think it'll be the same anymore, when and if he comes back, that is.

We will see. If someone can come back from this position it sure is him. I just wanna give some faith into it, and don't neccesarily think the worst seconario first.

I said you despise him, because you're usually very rational, but when it comes to Pippo and a few other players, your comments are displaced and wrong. Like that "hits every 9th chance" theory which in fact turned to be totally wrong.

Pippo deserves all the respect in the world from us milanisti. What he's given to this club can't be described in words. I will always admire him.

And how are you so sure that Palo won't score any?

He was doing well at Parma before getting all those injuries, scored a couple of important goals for them as well.

Also like X-Off said, you have no gaurantee as to what Pippo will come back out of this. He might never fully recover, you might think he's superman, but he's not. He's 37 years old, suffered a horrible injury which will set him back another year, you simply cannot bank on him anymore

He's comming back and he's gunna score again wether he comes on as a sub or plays from the start

Paloschi comes back next season he's gunna need a striker to learn from and who better then Inzaghi !!

I just hope for the best come out for him and the club as well, while you keep mentioning the worst possibility.

The optimism around here is great !



I hope he returns to his best; I really do. Its just statistics say otherwise about players in their 30s.

Well, Pippo broke a few of them, why not this?

Because he's 37? Seriously, most players have retired by this age.

Well, thats my point. Most players retire, never come back,...well Pippo did come back and played great even with 37. I hope he can come back also.

Well most players who aren't employed by Milan you mean...

Pippo is not beyond age or physical limitations. If he were playing at another club I'm sure they wouldn't have renewed with him again. Milan like to hang on to old players that brought glory to the club, just so they can say we have 5 champions in attack bla, bla.

You have Juventus who are willing to dump their club legend to the curb. Real Madrid had no qualms about sellig Raul off and not renewing with him. And any other clubs not in Serie A would balk at the idea of giving a player above 30 a long term contract like Milan have a habit of doing, let alone re-signing with a 37 year old who has just had a really bad injury that will put him out for a season

And thats why I like Milan too. This is classy. Letting Hierro, Raul, Guti, Roberto Carlos and a few other legends end up in a place like Bolton is what always drown me away from clubs like these. Barca did the same to Guardiola, Sergi, Abelardo,...no doubt, they'll do it to Xavi, Iniesta, Valdes or Busquets soon.

If he can play renew him; I have no problems with it.


Its not like were talking about inzaghi as our first choice striker. He's 4th so its not that big of a deal even if he is out.



Anyone else we bring in will do the same thing pippo does. Matri/paloschi etc will not be replacing robinho/pato/ibra in the attack; they're is just no way. They will sit on the bench and hope pato or someone gets injured and then they will get their chance. Simple as that.




and I gotta agree with fillipo; I like milan for that reason as well as long as its not costing us a financial burden.

You guys really think we will sell Pato in ~2 years' time?!

And Balotelli looks more like an Ibra type of player to me. tall, strong, arrogant, etc.

Balotelli will become stronger than Pato. There, I said it.

Strength? / Physically?

Or a better player? Probably the latter since it's obvious Balotelli is stronger when it comes to strength.

Pato is the better of the two now and in future IMO.

This. +1000

Plus, you guys are completely overreacting the Pippo thing. He was renewed for 1M a year, if I recall correctly. ONE MILLION. Tell me, if we let him retire, who would you sign for just 1M to replace him? Nobody his caliber, sure enough.

He's still able to be a sub. Just look at his RM game. Plus, financially, I bet he still brings in cash for us: I wonder how many jerseys with his number were sold after that game?

It makes sense money-wise, and football-wise it's hardly a disaster.

Not in a million years. Even if everything is right, his mental state is a big problem.

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Agreed.

Patos a great player if healthy but if he's going to be injured 4 months of the campaign every year; then its not worth it.


Lets not ignore the fact that he's not going to sit on a 2m salary for long because he'll probably want an extension with more money soon.


If we have to option of receiving balotelli and cash I say go for it.


But I doubt Galliani will sell him this soon. He'll wait another 2 years forsure and if things don't change then we'll probably get rid of him for big money.

I don't think Pato will get a renewal as long as his muscular injuries persist. I also think anyone who thinks it's good to sell a player of his potential when he's so young and on just a 2 million/year contract is out of their minds.

Why?

It would be madness in most cases yes but the reality is that Pato isn't just some gifted youngsters. He's worth 50m plus!


Financially this is something as a club we can't ignore. If hes performing fine; but if he isn't then its time to cash in.


We can buy neymar for half the profit we recieve and he'll do the same thing.


We are extremely forunate this year that Galliani and Silvio decided to pull out a master piece performance in the transfer market. I dont expect that too happen again next summer.


Silvio will not spend big money every single summer like he did last summer and if the oppurtunity to strengthen our squad arises by selling pato; then go for it.

Pato is not indespensible for this squad. At this moment no one is imo. Ibra comes close because he's winning games for us but we don't have a Kaka quality player anymore where we can say if he leaves the club than it will cause dramatic effects.


But I don't think it will happen.



We'll be reducing our wage bill by at least 10 m this summer with extentions so it will allow us at least to fund a decent transfer without silvio.

So I can see Pato staying this year aswell as the next.

Next summer we'll bring Ganso and a quality fullback, hopefully Fabio Coentrao. Mark my words, kids.

I hope Coentrao lands even this January. We need a able fullback.

Olympique lyonnas (OL) offered santos 20M euros if i recall last summer and santos said they'd wait for his price tag to raise.

i don't see contrao going for less then 22M but he is inflated due to a good WC, we could probably get a guy like Benoit Tremoulinas for half that and i find him to be just as good.

other cheaper alernatives for talented less-hyped Defenders

Arturo Vidal, Gonzalo Castro, Vertongen, Beck, Douglas (twente), Ilsinho.

That being said, im fine with abate and antonini, they are developping nicely. i think the true Need of the team is in midfield. but i expect to be bashed for thinking so

I don't know how good some of the mentioned are, but Beck and Vidal are out of question for me.

And Ganso denied an offer from ManCity, saying he aims to signing for a big club, like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Milan. And considering Barça and Madrid are well covered in that role, that leaves only us.

Turn off fantasy mode lol.



One signing above 15m is all you get. Either Contrao or ganso.

Yeah those are all very good options and would come around 10m but we seem hell bent on contrao. He'll be coming forsure.

Braida has watched him 4x now; 2 in the world cup; 1x last year and once this year.

And how many times did he watch Hernanes? And where does he play now?

I can only hope we sign Coentrão, but nothing's sure.

Its different; we made an honest effort for hernanes. The price was just way out of our range.

Sao Paolo wanted around 20m for him and that just wasn't possible. Lazio paid 15m; we paid 18m for robinho. One is decent player for 15m and one is world class for 3m more. So it just wasn't worth it.


Contrao on the other hand is a different case.

I'd argue that hernanes is both a better and younger player than Robinho,and he playeS in a position we needed to fill in.But,yeah maybe Robinho is more popular or something...

I would have preferred Hernanes over Robinho. Hernanes is younger, and he's a really good midfielder. I disagree with the decent / world-class comparison Blue made. Hernanes would end up being a first team player for Milan years long, while Robinho only plays first team when Pato or so is out. Of course signing Hernanes instead of Robinho would have meant we needed a different forward.

Not really,if we bought Hernanes with Huntelaar's money,and the Ibra transfer is clearly from Berlusconi's so we could have easily kept Borrielo,who would be a great backup for Ibra.

Hardly so. This current system we play with Ibra would have led to nothing if Borriello had been in his place.

About Ganso vs. Coentrao, we do need a fullback... But if the price ranges are similar, Ganso will become a huge player (he already is excellent), while Coentrao... Well, we can sign somebody else.

With Abate's notorious improvement, the fullback issue has diminished if you ask me.

Inzaghi backs Paloschi
Veteran forward backs youngster in his absence

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11854_6525361,00.html

Linkman:We'd have Hernanes which is more important,and besides Borrielo would be backup.

Not keen on Hernanes. He's no proper AM. I'd rather sign Ganso.

Agree. If you compare Robinho and Hernanes, I'm all for it.


I don't get the logic. How can you be sure Ganso will become that huge while Coentrao will fail? I think both have a fair chance, but won't say much more because so many times brazilian players get hyped it's really silly.

To be honest, I'm biased. I have seen Ganso play many times, while Coentrao, not so much.

I do think Ganso will become a great player, and I mean great like future Ballon D'Or great. Maybe Coentrao will be great too, I can't say without having watched him thoroughly.

-Honda's agent said that He'll be leaving Russia in January. A whole host of clubs are linked with him including us. We still have a non-eu spot available and and fly emirates wants to us to use it on Honda. 15m is the proposed bid for him.

-Galliani apparently had dinner with some french market specialists over the purchase of M. Sahko. Reported price is around 10m. However, Arsenal is also seriously interested in him as well.

-We offered 12m to Cagliari for Matri but they declined.

-We are linked with Fabiano for the winter transfer. Reported price 12m.

-We are linked with Lorient's Kevin Gameiro.



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Out of the bs listed above I can see honda coming true. The rest will 99.9% not happen in jan.

Ganso right now is like the next kaka for us except severly overhyped.



If we sign him; we are going to be alot stronger. He's only 20 but plays like he's 24.

Honda would give us that something extra to go all the way in terms of quailty of squad depth, we'll see what happens.

Mamadou Sakho is amazing for his age. Captain for PSG at the age of 20. A great replacement for Nesta when he retires.

I support Honda going to Milan. He'll suit in the system since he has a balanced mentality. He's neither flamboyant nor defensive.

+1

Agree with you on Sakho. It would be a great deal.