Look guys, the matter is very simple: right now Ambro is much better than Flamini, I think we can all agree on that. Should Ambro play every single match? No. They should be rotated constantly in order to give Ambro some breathing space and also give Flamini important minutes of play time. That's it.

It's personal prefernce. Atm no, Flamini isn't better then Ambro, and I never really said that anywhere in my posts. But the gap isn't as large as you're implying. The areal ability is something that Ambro wins hands down at, the other aspects of their game are more debatable. Which is why I mentioned that ability of Ambro's as for me, that's the biggest standout win for him. Other areas some Ambro is better at, Flamini at others. Ambro does tend to do stupid things as well, so he isn't perfect, but he does have a lot more experiance then Flamini, so the mantality thing you have a point on.

Flamini was one of the best DMs in the EPL a couple of years ago, he killed us in the midfield when we played Arsenal. Then he got here and Carlo never played him, because he had this obsession with always fielding Ambro-Pirlo-Rino in the midfield, obviously he can't keep up his performances when he's barely playing and then be expected to just come in and play amazing. Then Leo again had his fixed formation and 11 and never included him until the last 2/3 months of the season when it was becoming apparent that Ambro just couldn't keep up anymore.

So to say that Ambro is the obvious better DM to me is a stretch. Atm yes he is better, but not by far. Next season he'll be 34, which is why we can't expect him to be in top form throughout a season. That's why I'm also concerned with Flamini being at his best for us and integrating himself fully into the team. And in order to do that he needs to start playing more.

I believe we are discussing details here. We all want rotation, because we all believe Ambrosini should not play as much as last season (but he should be our regular DM), and we all want Flamini to play more games. Flamini won't only backup Ambrosini, but also Boateng (if he preforms well enough to be a starter, I do hope so). So IMO Flamini can play a lot without being an actual starter (but will start many games).

Agreed there

Although I don't know how much Boateng will start as opposed to Seedorf. Allegri so far has given the impression that Seedorf will be a starter for most games. We'll see...

Imo Seedorf right now can only play 45 minutes, after that his performance just drops. Like we saw against Lecce where in the second half he was making a lot of mistakes

I don't like the idea of Seedorf being a starter (of course he can start some games, but not too often). IMO Seedorf's best at backing up Pirlo. So during games he can sub Pirlo, he can start games when Pirlo can't or need rest, but also he can sub in for a different/defensive midfielder when we need a more attacking midfield to find a goal.

So I hope Allegri played Seedorf a lot because Boateng arrived late in pre-season, and Flamini having sort of injuries?

What about Gattuso?

Who knows really, if this was Carlo, I'd tell you that Seedorf is a definate starter. But Allegri doesn't strike me as a guy who looks to seniority/personal like towards a player to judge who he picks. I think he'll be using Seedorf against the smaller teams, but against tougher teams we will most probably see Boateng/Flamini with Pirlo and Ambro

Also I don't really like Seedorf in the centre role, he's best at playing in that left side of the midfield 3 imo.


Hey don't mock Rino! He was making juggling assists against Lecce

Whenever Seedorf played Pirlo's role, he impressed me, but he also can play as attacking midfielder both in the centre as wide. If we play our 4-3-3 I hope to see a playmaker (Pirlo, Seedorf, Fossati), a DM (Ambrosini, Flamini, Gattuso, Strasser), and someone who offers pace and hopefully also movement (Boateng, Flamini, Merkel).

Against weaker teams, or when we are not winning during a game you can play with both a playmaker (Pirlo) and an attacking midfielder (Seedorf). Else I hope Ibrahimovic will do partly the attacking midfield role (then Pato can go to CF position), but also Ronaldinho can do that partly. Let's say I want to see a lot of movement, which I believe we had against Lecce. I believe Allegri will do a great job here.

I think Seedorf is the best Pirlo 'alternative' we have. But my solution would be not to play with a Deep lying playmaker like Pirlo if he's out. Something like this:



As Opposed to



Let Strasser/Ambro/Gattuso play as a heavy Def. Mid and let the other Mids take a slightly more attacking role. With Pirlo out, he won't need any bodyguards if a bodyguard is playing his position.

We are again linked with Poli
http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=33682

And following Sotiris Ninis
http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=33711

well Van der Vaart is gone to tottenham and Im thinking Bale would be awesome as a defender or midfielder.

we already have a LB we should focus on getting a RB

andrea poli !

what about Hernanes or Pastore?

I already have a list ( it will be updated with time ) :

Philippe Mexes for defence.
One RB (i don't have a name for that position.)
One creative/playmaker (Ledesma/Poli/Xavi/Alonso/Aquilani/Montolivo/etc...)

well we don't have a non-eu spot anymore so any signings will have to have a Eu Passport.

Exception to this rule is players based in Italy. We buy from another Italian club it doesn't matter if the player has a pass or not.

huh, who was our non-EU signing ?

Burno Montelongo

The Great Bruno Montelongo!

I'd like to see him playing. But first he has to beat Bonera, Zambrotta, Papastathopoulos and Abate for that position. I predict he will play no more than 2 games.

Good we have it, after one season there will not be Zambrotta and Bonera.

I think he's on loan, and he's probably going back to his club at the end of the season.

Look up here.

But it says he has Italian passport. so ?

Since new rules have been implemented, we only get 1 non eu per season.


Our non eu was robinho.

i thought Robinho had double passport Brazilian and Spanish?

Robinho has got a Spanish passport, so he is EU. And I highly doubt Montelongo has used our non-EU spot. I'm pretty sure he's EU too somehow. (Loans count also as non-EU if anyone wonders that.)

So I guess we still got our non-EU token.

I was thinking about Boateng but I presume he has a German passport. I guess we still have a spot. I don't really think we're going to use it. And either way who can we really bring in that is quality and can start games for us immediately? We need a top CM and a top FB. But I can't see us getting either, at least not in the winter window

Of course Boateng got a German passport. We will use the non-EU spot. Question is for a cheap prospect or a more serious signing. In January it's a good time to sign players from Brazil.

Word. The only way I see this happening is if we are title contenders (or league leaders) by January, in with a real chance, and the board gets very serious to win the Scudetto. That's our only chance, and realistically speaking that is less than 1%. Still too early to call anything, really.

Ganso!!!

Pastore!!!

He wouldn't be a non-EU signing -> FAIL!

yup he is my mistake


anyways the non-eu spot is still available I guess. Dzeko anyone

Dzeko in January? Very unlikely. Next summer makes more sense (which would be next season's non-EU signing), and even that I don't see happening. No, I think we going to fish in South America in January.

With Ibra, we can forget about Dzeko like forever. Better sign a really good AM and a RB.

source: rossoneriblog



source: rossoneriblog

that would be a shame if we lose coates. He's good.



Maybe we'll sign honda in january.

Source ?

source: CHU-LIP

I think Bale is pretty good LB/LM and if FM is anything to go by then he is also an acceptable RB when trained

Toni Kroos

http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-l...eplace-Lampard/

It's not big news yet but just a few places reporting Chelsea are interested in him,if he's available Milan should perhaps should jump in.

tbh guys i think we can only hope for a free transfer or perhaps one midfielder in the winter transfer. I cant see galliani an berlu splashing out again, they will feel like they have done what they could for this side and so its down to the coach if he really feels we need another midfielder or a fulllback

I don't have high expectations for January, although a decent RB would be appreciated. My hopes are all turned to next summer and to the many contracts that are about to expire. I really hope the club doesn't renew ANY of them.

Do you know who's contract is about to end?

Janku is the only one I'm sure of

Well, I'm sure only about Janku, Ambro, Seedorf, Dinho and Inzaghi. Pirlo and Nesta could be there as well.

Ronaldinho too.

I'm not sure about Ambrosini.

Inzaghi, Ambrosini, Jankulovski, Seedorf, Ronaldinho, Nesta, Abbiati and Roma.

Janku and Inzaghi imo should definately not Renew.

Pirlo and Nesta we still need.

Seedorf, Dinho and Ambro I'm on the fence when it comes to them. Especially Dinho.

You can't really expect that we not renew with all those players, that would leave a gaping hole that would need filling in too short a time.

Imo next summer's strategy should be, let Pippo and Janku go, bring in Paloschi back from Parma and buy a top FB. Renew with Seedorf and Ambro for another season (just 1) and give them a backup role, imo not used often and as rotation players you really can't ask for anything better. Bring in a quality CM to be a starter next to Flamini and Pirlo/Boateng

Pirlo, Dinho and Nesta can be extended for another 2 seasons. Pirlo and Dinho compared to the others still have more time, but we can't burn them out like we've been doing, especially Pirlo, plus we could still get top dollar if we sell Dinho just before that extension ends to some UAE/US team. Nesta is timeless, no matter his age, plus rotating him regularly with Sokratis will let the Greek get more adjusted without any added pressure. An AM should be brought in as well, so we can have a more flxible system.

Imo this will fix most of our problems. We can't just get rid of the players who have been the core of this team for nearly a decade now, imo it will just create more problems then solve them. I know this should have started to be done a few seasons ago, but now it's done, the mistake is already made no use taking such drastic measures that could easily backfire on us

Agreed about Nesta and Pirlo. As for Seedorf and Ambro, they'll be 35 and 34 respectively next year. I really think we should stop this mania of keeping boiled players, regardless of how much they've given us or what they represent for the club. One or two is alright, but more than that is just too much. And Dinho should take a hike.

I'd definitely keep Pippo. He can play till he's 40. I think he'd agree to a pay as you play deal too. Post that give him a couple of years off and then put him in the coaching staff.

When he's coach, he'll teach Mourinho and Maradona a thing or two about how to celebrate victories.

For me I'd renew (if I was Galliani)-

Pirlo - 2 years 3.5 million wage + bonuses
Nesta -Ditto
Zee - 1 year rolling extension like the one Paolo had (he might refuse and go full time into his charity works)
Pippo - Ditto
Ambro - 2 years
R80 - Like Silvio leaves us a choice. But I'd like him to stay for now. Maybe my opinion will change end of the season.

I really want to see us bring some youngsters in proper. Fossati should be in within 2 years I hope...if Bluey's opinion of him is to be believed.

Robinho's young. So is Pato. Ibra's got another 4 years left of football at a comparable level (touch wood). We can bring in Verdi and Beretta (who still reminds me of a rather out-of-form Bobo Vieri)..Strasser too to actually play.