I call BS,SAF has already said he says Rafael as he long term replacement.

Yeah, that's what I thought when I read the article.

I honestly hope we will at least try this kid out. I really don't get why we sign these loan deals and then never even give them any chance.

We often buy them as favours for other clubs...like what Genoa did for us.

What if he is simply not good ?

Possible. Which forces us to take a hard look at our scouting system. Because we paid good money to bring a person all the way from S.America. That's definitely more expensive than just picking someone from the european continent.

I don't think we can take it as a fact that he was more expensive; given the fact that he is only on loan.

Our scouting system has been given more importance now, given the recent shift it policy where we concentrate on quality youth players. By saying that, I believe it is still too early to command a position which would render the next 'Iniesta' or 'Pedro'. However, with time, I believe that could be achieved.

Well, then it would be preferable to know that before we loan him out or bring him at Milan. I mean, it's like making a shot in the dark.

Its not possible to assess a youth player's potential ability to become world class just by scouting. If that was the case, Adiyah should be a first team regular. Moreover, every transfer window would be busy with these youth player transfers.

There goes Dzeko...Juventus are looking really good,Delneri is a great coach I must say.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/serie-...edin-dzeko-from

I wouldn't be so sure about the deal, but it most probably will happen. But what has the deal to do with Del Neri's coaching abilities? Milan once way back ago was linked with him btw.

Well,I was just talking in general about his coaching abilities,I didn't really mean(if I did) to relate it to dzeko's transfer.
His tactics were spot on against inter,and so were his subs.He also changed the negative way Juventus played last season.I think he is building a team that can be a title contender.

Well...actually I think Allegri's got a harder job than Del Neri. Del Neri just needs to worry about Del Piero being happy..the rest of the squad is virtually new and starting from scratch.

Max's got lots of monkeys on his back.

I dunno, I seem to be the only one who's noticing the incremental improvements we're seeing in this squad...and it's very progressive. I don't expect our team to come out one fine day playing a perfect symphony, but there are steady signs of improvement here.

I hope by November end we'll be a 90% complete product.

Because I think we simply have no alternative tactic to a formation where Pirlo is shackled...save to take him off. He's a bit of a millstone that way.

They both have a hard job. Both are coaches who only had mid-table teams with low budgets onder their command. Del Neri has a complete new team, which isn't always good, he needs more time then Allegri; but on the other hand his board invested much wich puts him under instant pressure.

Milan's board has always been stable, we haven't had a interim coach since don Cesare - which gives Allegri the needed breathing space. Del Neri on the other hand had already a firey experience with Roma, and also knows what happened to Ferrara only recently. I'd say it's Allegri 1- Del Nero 1 .

Thanks .. Well sarcasm is not really my best friend but I know what you mean. I agree with you Han but I rather talk about Milan then to jugde people I hardly know.. And I know its typical you X -Off .
No you didn't scare me away, believe me Im that last person that gets scared away..

Heard that Milan is still after Barrios.
Hope that he and Pedro will be one of the winters transfers but Valdano clamied that Real Madrid won't be listed to any offers. read it on this link yesterday or so.

You tell him! ;P



Bad news guys...
http://www.football-italia.net/oct05v.html

Nothing to do with the news but did you see that goal he did last weekend, ( not as good as Pirlos ) but still good

Well,that makes it even worse

I don't remember how many articles I read in the past claiming we'd already signed him.

It does suck, but don't worry. We have alot of youth with incredible abilities now.


We have the best youth cm in europe

Good, we'll need it. In keeping with the National side, we do have a bit of an aging squad. Experience is invaluable, but we still need more young catalysts like Pato. Anybody think we might benefit from a new GK? Not that Everton would ever let it happen, but we could use somebody like Tim Howard. If anybody couldn't tell, I'm not such a big fan of Abbi. I haven't seen Amelia play yet, either, but he seems promising.

As for our serious situation in the back four, what if we looked across the pond? How 'bout Jay Demerit? He had a great WC showing, and I really think we could use that kind of "enforcer."

Here's what I think our starting XI shoud be, and please don't bite my head off, MizNelson:

---Pato---Ibra---Robinho---

--------Ronaldinho-----------
-Gatusso---------Boateng---
------------Pirlo--------------

--Zambro--Nesta--Abate--

------------Abbi--------------

Please, let me know what you guys think!

I agree with your squad and formation, MilanManiac9. Only that Thiago Silva is missing for some reason! Other than that, I have been gunning for a 3-man defense (that stays back at all times) for a while now. A lot of the goals we have conceded have come from counter attacks.

I think you should play less FIFA and watch more real football.

@X-Off:C'mon...be nice!

@milanmaniac: In a 3 man defence you'd probably put in 3 CBs instead of 2 fullbacks and a sweeper. Your team would be rather unbalanced defensively.

So if you did this:

Pato---Ibra---Robinho---

--------Ronaldinho-----------
-Gatusso---------Boateng---
------------Pirlo--------------

--Silva--Nesta--Sok-----

------------Abbi--------------


Even then you have no protection in mid-field and are depending on all those attacking heavyweights somehow scoring more goals.

The only benefit is that you have all of our fantasy 4 playing.

The only time I'd put that formation on is in the 75th minute when we're a goal down and need to win. EVen then I'd have Flamini or another DM instead of KPB.

Kaka' might leave Madrid soon and both Inter and Milan are ready to snatch him.

Link

Though I don't believe Kaka' would ever consider going to Inter, the thought of him making a return to Milan enthusiasms me a lot. Let's be rational. When Sheva returned from Chelsea, he was 32 years old and was barely given a real chance at all. Ricky on the other hand is only 28, and if he's past his injury problems for good, I see no reason why not giving him another chance. That said, he'll most probably go to Chelsea.

I think he might go to Chelsea too if Carlo asks Abramovich. Not sure if he'll make it there though.

If Kaka is having trouble dealing with physical issues in Spain, I'd hate to see what would happen to him in the EPL.

So, would you welcome Kaka back?

And of course, the real question is, does Milan have the spending money for Kaka, even at a discount price?

Same story about Pastore. We also just had him for graps. Then the time Kaka was about to make his move to Real Madrid.
Galliani's excuse for not signing him: we had Kaka
Now it turnes out Pastore is one of the greatest talents in Italy

As soon as there's a international break, the rumors get turned on again. Here's a list of the players we are linked to:

- David Luiz (Benfica)
- Jan Vertonghen (Ajax)
- Emiliano Morretti (Genoa)
- Michel Bastos (Lyon)
- Gareth Bale (Spurs)
- Adil Rami (Lille)
- Lazzari (Cagliari)
- Pedro Leon (Madrid)

you cant even do that in fifa 2 defender and a parttime full back who does not know how to defend although with bonera-nesta-silva it could work

i would welcome him and imo it was milan who cashed him because of debts but unless we get him in a deal similar to ibra i dont see milan spending on him

I would welcome him with open arms.


He's a little older now so I would encourage to use him as more of a play maker than a SS.


Maybe as a centre mid or a Treq.



Play something along these lines:


------Ibra-----Pato---

-------Kaka--------

---flamini-pirlo-boateng

or play him beside pirlo.

It depends on how much it would cost wether it would be wise or not IMO, but I would welcome Kaká very very very much back to the club.

Agreed. Kaka' instead of Dinho would be a huge improvement for our squad.

Kaká would be a great replacement for Ronaldinho, but I do fear that a possible transfer to Milan and a fight with Inter would me either Ibra back to Barca or, more probably, Pato off for England or Spain.

Maybe we could snatch him on loan.

That would really mean B&G are brilliant.

Why Kaka ? Ronaldinho is far more technically gifted than Kaka ever was. If anything, Kaka's lethal attribute is his speed. Right now, the same is hindered by his injuries of late and if he comes back he wont be as affective this time around.

I think we shouldn't waste our time with Kaka, let him go to Inter, what difference does it make considering we already have headaches with out attacking options.

No. Kaka isn't just about speed. He's also great at playing that final ball. The problem though is right now, the only vacancy we have is in the creative player who plays deep mid-field. And Kaka can't really play there.

Ronaldinho would have to go if we need Kaka to come back..and I have to be honest on current form and impact Kaka can't really replace Ronnie. We'll have to bring sentiment to it...and then compare the R80 of today to the Kaka of 2007 before we can justify that choice. Because truth is the R80 of last year was better than Kaka in his last year at Milan.

Kaka should be forgotten. Imo that door is closed. And what's the point? He's injured 95% of the time. That means we'll be committing to spending ridiculous money to bring him back. We already have our hands full with all the attackers on our roster, why spend money on another one when what we really need is a CM or FB?

And as someone said above to remove Ronnie so we could accomodate Kaka would be ridiculous, simply because Ronnie has been in much better form then Kaka over the last 2 seasons and is not injury prone like Kaka is

Oh now I'm someone huh? Gee..thanks han.

Considering the guy is basically an unknown, I'd go the BS route.

I agree with han and protagonist. NO to Kaka.

Ahem...I said the same thing. What is this? Ignore the smart, sexy, awesome, always-right pirate thread???


Whoopee...that's a fun event!

You really don't like Boateng, do you, Jack? I think he's a little better than you give him credit for (no offense).

@X-Off: I don't get to play much FIFA, and honestly, I'm not a huge fan of Silva. Call it instinct, intuition, or whatever have you, but I just don't feel like he's the best option we have right now.

Silva is our Best CB POINT


Another bad rumour from goal.com?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/serie-...for-kaka-return

Yeaaaah I call bullshit on that one.

Not to say Kaká won't return some day, but I think the man himself wants to prove he can perform again outside of Milan.

EDIT: Globoesporte reported a different team was interested in Kaká... Sao Paulo!

http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/noti...mo-em-2011.html

It's not from Goal, it's originally from Sportmediaset. And it's more than a rumor. Ronaldinho is set to leave in January for LA, and we're going to bring back Kaka' on loan till June. Then we'll sign him for around €30 million, by making annual payments of €10 million.

And for those who have doubts regarding such a deal, I call them fools. With Kaka' we'd have a much better team suited for our game. We could finally play our old-style diamond line-up, by playing all three men upfront in their natural positions. Not to mention we'd be much more covered in the back as well. I mean, from a technical point of view, it'd be perfect.

Of course, the question marks reigns heavily on Ricky's physical conditions. He had a surgery in his left knee only two months ago, and he's bound to make his recovery in early January. So, as long as there's still uncertainty about his physical conditions, it remains a highly risky operation. But, should he get back on form afterwards, we'd have in our hands a treasure of a player. And knowing his age, 28, and his experience in Serie A with the rossoneri colors, it'd be simply foolish to let such an opportunity slip away. I mean, it's Kaka' we're talking about!