It's a proven fact that second comings don't work. forget about Kaka. sign the next Kaka.

+1, and that's why we are better off with Honda than with Ronaldinho.

Honda is a very good player, saying he is no quality player is nonsense.

No one said he's no quality player. I just don't think he's good enough to become Milan's starting AM. I'd rather sign Pastore or Ganso.

I feel like Han thinks Honda is no quality, and Honda should be good enough to become our starting AM.

I prefer Pastore too, Ganso normally also but he's injured. Pastore is not easy to get, so I would be pleased with Honda also.

i know its unrealistic yet these are our needs for winning something big.

Honda to replace Seedorf.
Pastore to replace Ronaldinho.
Funes Mori to replace inzaghi.
Coentraro to replace Jankulovski.
ivanovic to replace Oddo.

Talk about stretching things....

Honda is a slightly above average player at best, he's not good enough to be our starting AM, not in a million years. And the only reason for him actually coming to Milan would be for the marketing aspect and that alone.


Exactly!


I didn't say he's no quality. But certainly not better then Dinho, and certainly not good enough to be a starter for us, especially when we have Robinho, Ibra and Pato in the attack.

There are options out there, aside from Pastore, much better options then Honda, who would only come to Milan as a marketing tool

You are underrating Honda. Also, I never meant to say Honda is better than Ronaldinho, but Honda is a better fit, will preform for us better, and will make Milan a better team, than with Ronaldinho. With Robinho, Ibrahimovic and Pato it's a very good thing Honda doesn't necessary needs to be a starter, he can be though. Aside from Pastore, who are better options also? Özil and Hernanes, but we let slip (especially the latter).

No need for so many novelties. If we signed only Pastore and Coentrao we'd be super. And we always have Paloschi to replace Inzaghi.

I still can't believe Madrid signed Oezil for only €15 million. We'd have had our problems solved for a very long time.

How do you know he's be a better fit? I'm pretty sure he'd flop big time in Serie A. I'd take him as a rotation player, but no way as the direct replacement we absolutely need instead of Dinho.

As for Hernanes, Lazio is not the end of the road for him, he would probably be worth twice as much as Lazio paid for him just a few months ago but he's sill worth it and far more cheaper then someone like Pastore. Also Ganso is injured now but that doesn't mean he'll be injured forever, he'll probably cost less thanks to that injury

No signing an AM was too obvious for Galliani and co. Obviously we needed another forward instead of an AM

Plus Ozil is not a flashy signing like Robinho or Ibra so why bother?

You're sure? Says who is talking about oh I haven't heard from him since World Cup... all you think is: he just plays for some Russian team (not a bad team) so he can't be that good... I really think you are just talking nonsense here.

With a better fit, I meant because he is actually an attacking MIDFIELDER unlike Ronaldinho he do things like working his *ss off etc... it gives us more balance, not a slowpow attack etc.. etc.. those reasons why Ronaldinho shouldn't start over Robinho bla bla bla.

And why are you so sure that he'd be a success in Serie A? I don't care where he plays, I've seen enough, and aside from all that running he's not a maestro, he not the kind of player we need. If we did sign him to replace Dinho it would be a big disappointment. Especially because I know there are far better options out there who would actually be an UPGRADE on Dinho, and because I know the reason as to why we actually brought him in, money


According to some he can play every outfield position

And yes Dinho is slow, but when on the ball and on his game, he's a genius. And Honda can run 300 miles in 90 minutes if it's all in vain because he doesn't have the quality to back that then what's the point. I don't really care if the AM tracks back and runs a lot, and goes into the midfield. Did you ever see Rui Costa or Kaka do that before? NO!! They're there to create! Get the ball to the attackers in great positions, and in order to do that you need to have vision, passing, creativity, etc. If you're just looking for someone who can run his @ss off you're watching the wrong sport. If it cam down to it, I'd rather try and groom Robinho to play behind the striker then have someone like Honda be first team for us

Ganso? Pastore?





Yeah I'd like a ferarri too please

So we settle for the tricked out Fiat Uno Fire circa 1989?

Pastore would be a dream, true, but Ganso is quite reachable.

People were skeptical about Krasic making it in the Serie A too (also came from CSKA) but now many consider him Juve's best player and the second coming of Nedved.

Honda is two years younger, definitely has the talent and still improving. I wouldn't say No to him.

I was the one who wanted him the most, thank you.

How is he reachable?


Ganso is around 25-30 M


There is no way in hell Galliani can ever pay that much for a player and silvio will never pay that much for just a young talent.

If he was a proven world class player then there might be debate.

If we can't afford Hernanes at 15m; ganso is not reachable.



You guys are crazy who think Honda is not good enough for us. Go watch some of his games he plays; especially for japan. He's one of the best players on the pitch.


He's def better than seedorf and ronaldinho currently, I can say that much.

I was really hoping to see him here too. But we missed so many good players on the transfer market in recent years, that I lost count already. Seems like we only woke up a week before the end of August after 3 years sleep.

25-30 million? Now that's a plain exaggeration. There's no way his real value is that high. I believe we could easily sign him for around 20 million, if not less. He refused to renew his contract with Santos after all, so that's in our favor.

I'm sorry? Ganso's contract runs til' 2015, if I'm not mistaken. And the buyout clause is 35 million euros.

The key word there being Japan blue . It's not like he's shining in the Spanish or Brazil NT, and doing great in a friendly against Argentina doesn't really say much either.

And no way is he better then either Seedorf or Dinho.

Also Ganso will be out for a while, that in itself lowers his price considerably

Like you said the key word is Japan here also! He's not shining in Spanish or Brazil NT, no, that's kinda hard to do when you're Japanese! Strong, han, not! While actually he is shining in Japanese NT, and sorry, but more than that he cannot do, can he?

Not better than Seedorf? Come on, han. Seedorf is far from starting material these days, Seedorf, we get annoyed when his name is on the team sheet, Seedorf, one of our worst players of the season. Honda is obvious lots better than Seedorf. Ronaldinho is a different story, Ronaldinho is still CAPABLE of being obvious better than Honda, but doesn't SHOW it, so therefore, but also because Honda fits better in our 4-3-1-2, Honda would be a way better player for us than Ronaldinho is, who also is preforming awful this season (like Seedorf).

Yeah Ganso is out for rest of season, short term (2nd half of this season) he is impossible the answer.

My point was that it isn't that difficuilt to shine in team like Japan. No he can't change his nationality, but that wasn't really my point wast it?


Still Seedorf on a good day is a far more superior player to Honda, He's been struggling this season, yes, but he's been playing at a top level for years now, he's hit a brick wall, still I'd prefer Seedorf to be my rotation player rather then Honda. As for Dinho, like I said before, you have no proof that Honda would be a better fit then Dinho. And Dinho has played in the AM position for us and done it well. So saying that Honda would be better for us because he's an AM while Dinho is not isn't really a good argument to make.

As for Ganso, a couple of months ago I would have been sure that Ibra and Robinho would never have been Milan players, but look where they are now, if Milan really want him, we can get him. If Honda does come, we all know the reason behind that

I don't care what the reason is, Honda is a good player. Seedorf on a good day? Of course Seedorf has been at a top level for years, but then we're talking about the PAST. I care about the PRESENT and FUTURE. And the good days Seedorf has, there are not many left in the present and past, there are plenty for Honda. Honda will be a good player for us weekly, more often than Ronaldinho and even more often than Seedorf. Also, in my opinion you underrate Honda a lot, there is a big difference between how you rate him and how I rate him, so we are never ever coming close to agreeing, so let's agree to disagree, but I find it hilarious you still prefer Seedorf over him which proves again you rate players on what they are CAPABLE of even though they DON'T SHOW it 9 out of 10 times nowadays.

And I don't know what your point was in that post, but it was a very weak argument, I know that. Honda is preforming whereever he plays and shows skills I like.

I didn't say Seedorf should be a starter thanks to his past performances. I said I'd rather have him as a rotation player then Honda. Big difference. Ronldinho has off days yes, but you're making it out to be like he's terrible 99% of the time. Like Honda never performs badly or anything of the sort.

I might underrate him, but you overrate him big time!! A top team like Milan shouldn't be aiming to get a player of Honda's calibre in order to be a first team player.

Also my point was, that I'd rather keep Seedorf and Dinho than bring in someone like Honda. Simple.

Why does everyone want to sign this Ganso guy? He can't even shoot out of a cannon successfully much less play ball for us.

Do you guys think we need a new CB as Nesta-Silva back-up? Sokratis hasn't been convincing so far. Maybe we could sign Mexes, considering he's benched most of the time at Roma too.

As for fullbacks, I really hope we sign Fabio Coentrao, would be a major improvement, and also De Silvestri. The guy is is being relegated at Fiorentina, we could snatch him for a good price.

In attack, I'd give my farewells to Inzaghi and get back baby Paloschi.

And of course, for AM, the dream remains Pastore.

Kaka is Sheva 2.0 right now. Don't bring him back here, otherwise we'll be repeating history.

Sheva was 32 when he returned, Kaka' would be 29, there's some difference. Anyway, Kaka' is not leaving Madrid till June, that is certain. After that, we'll see. Personally, I'd take him on the spot.

Naah, Inzaghi is miles away even now from the baby. Paloschi gets benched by Crespo, who's nowdays slower and less efficient then Pippo.

I agree with you in every way for the other comments. I knew somehow Sokratis would dissapoint, even if we should give him more chances. Usually I belive when a coach hesitates that much putting in a player that he even acts ilogicall. That's why I don't belive in Flamini either.

Paloschi is injured, that's why he's not been playing lately. He was available only in the first week.

Flamini has to compete with 2 players from the old gaurd. And to make it even worse, it's the captain and vice captain

+ 1...

Other 'superior' teams let the likes of Yaya Toure and Gilberto Silva go because they have faith in the younger Sergios and Alex Songs. And guess what, despite some inevitable growing pains - as is the case whenever a younger player is thrust into the starting eleven - Barca and Arsenal are better for it in the long run.

Meanwhile, we let Flamini and Gourcuff rot on the bench for the likes of Brocchi and Emerson.

Yeah, all the good messieurs Brocchi and Emerson are doing us now! Double puke.

Age is irrelevant, especially since Kaka can barely stay healthy nowadays.

How's age irrelevant? Age is one of the main factors in sports. We all know about Kaka's injury problems, that's why we should wait till June and see how the case evolves. If Kaka' stays healthy during this period, then we could make an attempt to sign him. If he doesn't and continues having all sorts of problems, then we can let go and focus on someone else. Point is, if Kaka' is healthy and willing to return, we should totally go for it. Just because Sheva failed on his return (mostly because Ancelotti never played him), doesn't mean Kaka' will aswell.

Mourinho won't let Kakà go and it would be stupied to spend money on a player like him then to spend it in Honda or Bale or who the h3ll it could be.. And its true, how many games has Kakà played since he joined Real Madrid?
His father asked Real not to sell him.
But if he's healthy, willing to return and not making Milan buy him instead of another good player that's younger.
I say yes, he had his best years in Milan I say.

Would you take him?Never actually seen him play.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premie...on-set-to-leave

He's English, so no.

If we want to return to being protagonists, we must sign the likes of Coentrao or David Luiz for LB, Srna or Van Der Wiel for RB and and a new CB. Additionally, if we...

...want to stick with the 4-3-3:

Sell Pirlo. Sign another Box-Box CM who is really good but I don't know about (since the likes of Bastien, Marchisio, De Rossi, Hernanes are no longer available).

or if we want to revert to the 4-3-1-2:

Sell Dinho and perhaps even Robinho (since he won't like being a back up). Sign an attacking mid whose really good like Ganso, or one that I don't know about (since Hernanes, VDV, Pastore are all unavaliable).

COULD IT BE ANY MORE GLARING HOW IMPORTANT HERNANES COULD HAVE BEEN TO US! FU*****K!

What do I think we'll do? Resign our oldies, sign another forward.

This.

It will be hard to find someone who disagree, I think. Robinho of course won't leave so quickly after his arrival, so our hopes are on Ronaldinho being replaced for an AMC. We indeed really need 4-3-1-2 with an AMC we don't got. I hope so badly we will fix this in January, and also sign at least one proper FB. I mean, do we want to have a chance in both Serie A and CL or don't we?

If we signed F. Coentrao and Pastore (a dream, I know), we'd have a fantastic starting 11. Zambrotta would start on most important games as RB, and that I'm fine with, whilst Antonini and Abate could be used against mid/low-table opponents. Flamini and Boateng, I repeat, would fit perfectly in the diamond. I'd also like to see Amelia as our starting GK, at least starting next season.

Tuttomercatoweb claims that AC Milan directors met Real Madrid’s chiefs to speak over Lass, as Milan are looking for a defensive midfielder, who is not 30 yet.

As much as I love Nesta I would see somebody else next to Thiago too

Lassana Diarra would be great, IMO.

My god he'd be GREAT, as long as it is Lass and not M. Diarra.

I remember when M. Diarra was at Lyon, and everyone at this forum was craving about him.