samira
Oct 14 2010, 04:54 PM
I agree with Blue
And Im loving that Braida is friends with everyone
ForzaMaldini
Oct 15 2010, 02:06 PM
Funny how one incident can effect you guys. Affelay a jerk? He is one of the most modest players around The Netherlands. Do i need to search for the things Ibra does? Or Boateng? But off course they're very much loved.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 15 2010, 02:20 PM
Hee. I get your point...but seriously are you suggesting that since we have a lot of jerks in-house it's alright to add in one more??
Boban10
Oct 15 2010, 07:42 PM
QUOTE
’Pato’s future? He hasn’t received any offers from Manchester City. He is not for sale at any price. The only team inquiring about him was Barcelona in the summer. When I was in Barcelona to convince president Rosell to sell us Ibrahimovic, he insisted on an Ibra-Pato swap deal for two or three day. His offer was rejected. Pato is 21 years old, he’s our symbol. If we want to further enhance the value of the Milan brand, we must not sell a player like him. So I can confirm he’s not for sale.’
Excert from Galliani's press conference today. I like.
http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130193
William405
Oct 15 2010, 09:55 PM
He said it like gazillion times,but people always tend to believe rumors...
kurtsimonw
Oct 15 2010, 10:49 PM
Galliani also said we wouldn't be signing anyone this summer a million times, how did that turn out? I just ignore him now, he talks for the sake of it.
Zed.D
Oct 15 2010, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (Boban10 @ Oct 15 2010, 10:12 PM)

QUOTE
’Pato’s future? He hasn’t received any offers from Manchester City. He is not for sale at any price. The only team inquiring about him was Barcelona in the summer. When I was in Barcelona to convince president Rosell to sell us Ibrahimovic, he insisted on an Ibra-Pato swap deal for two or three day. His offer was rejected. Pato is 21 years old, he’s our symbol. If we want to further enhance the value of the Milan brand, we must not sell a player like him. So I can confirm he’s not for sale.’
Excert from Galliani's press conference today. I like.
http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130193As much as I want to believe him, as Kurt mentioned, it's his usual BS talk. he can't be taken seriously. I'm pretty sure he'd said the same things about Kaka as well, before suddenly coming up with the "we can't afford to lose 60m every season [by rejecting Real's bids for Kaka]" talk in the summer of 2009...
EDIT: the fact that he's talking about Pato's future is rather worrying!
X-Offender
Oct 15 2010, 11:40 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 16 2010, 12:10 AM)

EDIT: the fact that he's talking about Pato's future is rather worrying!
He was asked, Zed.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 16 2010, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (ForzaMaldini @ Oct 15 2010, 03:06 PM)

Funny how one incident can effect you guys. Affelay a jerk? He is one of the most modest players around The Netherlands. Do i need to search for the things Ibra does? Or Boateng? But off course they're very much loved.
No, actually I don't like Ibra, but does that have to mean we should sign another?
CHU-LIP
Oct 16 2010, 05:18 PM
I have never liked Zlatan until now. Still, even though I find him one of our most important players he is far from my favourite (Milan) player.
About Afellay. Even though I don't like him, I am not against him joining us, since he's cheap and has enough quality to be in our squad and what he offers we lack.
X-Offender
Oct 16 2010, 07:04 PM
He pissed me off tonight, in the second half. Useless tricks and ball possession instead of serving his peers.
CHU-LIP
Oct 16 2010, 07:08 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 16 2010, 08:04 PM)

He pissed me off tonight, in the second half. Useless tricks and ball possession instead of serving his peers.

Zlatan pissed you off tonight???

I am in LOVE with Zlatan+Pato right now.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 16 2010, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 16 2010, 08:04 PM)

He pissed me off tonight, in the second half. Useless tricks and ball possession instead of serving his peers.

Totally agree. The 2 assists were superb piece of work, but his nonshalant style made us look silly in numerous occasions and meant no break for the defenders as most of his tricks ended up with Chievo regaining fast possesion.
Bluesummers
Oct 16 2010, 07:26 PM
madrid 70m+kaka would do it for me
j/k
William405
Oct 16 2010, 07:28 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 16 2010, 09:08 PM)

Zlatan pissed you off tonight???

I am in LOVE with Zlatan+Pato right now.

Pato+Ibra duo,who said it first ?

Although I agree with the others about his useless tricks...
samira
Oct 16 2010, 08:43 PM
I have always been in love with Pato

But Zlatan has never been a favorite but he helps Sweden and love the way he plays but Gosh, he has allways had that bad temper so it's like get used to it

But the Netherland- Sweden was

Hit Van Bommel like 3 times.. Wow and yelled at the ref, Gattusos old days..
Aly Cissokho for 10m .. great.
vnata001
Oct 19 2010, 09:50 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 16 2010, 11:23 AM)

Totally agree. The 2 assists were superb piece of work, but his nonshalant style made us look silly in numerous occasions and meant no break for the defenders as most of his tricks ended up with Chievo regaining fast possesion.
This. Also, i'm sure this was mentioned in the match thread, but that two footed tackle was one of the most inexplicably idiotic things i've seen before. He exhibited all his class when went past those several defenders only to deliberately NOT play Roni or Robi in on goal, and instead strangely pull the ball back towards the defenders just for the sake of that shocking two footed lunching tackle. I was stunned to see that.
It's stuff exactly like that why I still to this day which it was Edin Dzeko and Pato.
Btw Fillipo, I hope this finally puts your doubts of his class to rest once and for all. No more 'is he really that good?' questions!
Pastore v. Bologna (Viviano)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B-6ad1HBZo
Jack Sparrow
Oct 19 2010, 09:57 AM
Can anyone tell me (who watches Bundesliga) if you think Nuri Sahin might be a good purchase for us as a Zee alternative? He seems good on both sides of the pitch and can pass well.
I'd like to choose between one of Nuri Sahin and Man U's Anderson. And then get a nice fullback.
CHU-LIP
Oct 19 2010, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 10:57 AM)

Can anyone tell me (who watches Bundesliga) if you think Nuri Sahin might be a good purchase for us as a Zee alternative? He seems good on both sides of the pitch and can pass well.
I'd like to choose between one of Nuri Sahin and Man U's Anderson. And then get a nice fullback.
Sahin is a good player. I would not mind him. Sahin, Kagawa and Barrios are going to win the 1. Bundesliga.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 19 2010, 10:10 AM
Ok..he's good...but can he replace the Zeemeister? The Superman from Surinam, The AssKicker from Ajax, The Mage of Milan, The Magic Turtle, The Wonderful Willy Wonka... can he??
CHU-LIP
Oct 19 2010, 10:15 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 11:10 AM)

Ok..he's good...but can he replace the Zeemeister? The Superman from Surinam, The AssKicker from Ajax, The Mage of Milan, The Magic Turtle, The Wonderful Willy Wonka... can he??
Sure.
vnata001
Oct 19 2010, 10:27 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 02:10 AM)

Ok..he's good...but can he replace the Zeemeister? The Superman from Surinam, The AssKicker from Ajax, The Mage of Milan, The Magic Turtle, The Wonderful Willy Wonka... can he??
you are outrageous. lol. but ffs we already got a seedorf replacement. He's a soulful African Prince, not a mechanic German machine. He comes from Pompy with Passion and Promise. He bashes Ballack for fun. A Bat, waiting to be shot out of Hell by the great Milanese Red Devil. He's the Unstoppable Train. He is KEVIN. PRINCE. BOATENG.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 19 2010, 11:06 AM
*mumble* *mumble* He looks like some hip-hop star with a bad *** name...and that's all that's required to win your approval. Next you'll tell me to sell Rino so we can have Markie Mark as DM.
Rossoneri7
Oct 19 2010, 02:18 PM
I like the idea of Busta Rhymes as a Pirlo replacment
vnata001
Oct 19 2010, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 19 2010, 06:18 AM)

I like the idea of Busta Rhymes as a Pirlo replacment
haha, nice! im thinking Ice-T as our next manager.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 20 2010, 10:41 AM
Heck no! Jay-Z to replace Galliani and Kanye West to replace Braida.
"You Mourino..I'm real happy for you and I'ma let you finish...but Zlatan is the best forward in the league ever!!"
Linkman
Oct 20 2010, 06:18 PM
If you're having back problems, I feel bad for you son... I got 99 problems but a left back ain't one! Hit me!
Bluesummers
Oct 20 2010, 11:17 PM
QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 20 2010, 11:18 AM)

If you're having back problems, I feel bad for you son... I got 99 problems but a left back ain't one! Hit me!
LOL!
99 problems hmm..
I got some problems:
1)jack
2)jack
3)jack
...
99)jack
Linkman
Oct 21 2010, 03:29 AM
Hey hey, I said back problems, not jack problems!

Anybody who shares his rum is not a problem with me
samira
Oct 25 2010, 08:29 PM
HAHAHA
Jack Sparrow
Oct 26 2010, 05:04 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 21 2010, 04:47 AM)

LOL!
99 problems hmm..
I got some problems:
1)jack
2)jack
3)jack
...
99)jack
I deserve this and more. This is what I get...
MizNelson
Oct 26 2010, 05:33 AM
QUOTE (Jack)
Ok..he's good...but can he replace the Zeemeister? The Superman from Surinam, The AssKicker from Ajax, The Mage of Milan, The Magic Turtle, The Wonderful Willy Wonka... can he??
I threw up a little in my mouth after reading this. Nice work, Michael Buffer.
William405
Oct 26 2010, 03:19 PM
Anyone following this player:Coutinho.He's been really great for inter,and I think he has great potential.His weakness though is his finishing and shooting but he plays good on the wings,and is a very fast player.He also is only 18,and has recently started extensive strength training.I think he's a player that will become great one day,although I hate the team he plays for ;p
X-Offender
Oct 26 2010, 03:38 PM
He's a great talent, in two years time he'll be awesome.
Zed.D
Oct 26 2010, 06:56 PM
As I've said in the CL thread, he's indeed a great talent. I think he's quite lucky to be playing regularly in a team like Inter though. Benitez showed great trust in him and let him make mistakes (and there's been many of them tbh) cause that's the only way you learn. you can see he's greatly improved since his debut. especially against Tottenham he was immense.
That said, he's a little fellow and doesn't possess great physique. I don't know much more he can grow, but if he doesn't, in the future he will start to struggle in this league where defenders usually employ the simple method of "kick hard, left and right" on gifted players. in La Liga he could be as good as Bojan or maybe even Messi.
Another thing, Pato in his first 2 seasons could dribble past defenders and show samba skill quite easily but nowadays he struggles with that. same could happen to Coutinho.
han2503
Oct 26 2010, 07:45 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 26 2010, 06:56 PM)

As I've said in the CL thread, he's indeed a great talent. I think he's quite lucky to be playing regularly in a team like Inter though. Benitez showed great trust in him and let him make mistakes (and there's been many of them tbh) cause that's the only way you learn. you can see he's greatly improved since his debut. especially against Tottenham he was immense.
That said, he's a little fellow and doesn't possess great physique. I don't know much more he can grow, but if he doesn't, in the future he will start to struggle in this league where defenders usually employ the simple method of "kick hard, left and right" on gifted players. in La Liga he could be as good as Bojan or maybe even Messi.
Another thing, Pato in his first 2 seasons could dribble past defenders and show samba skill quite easily but nowadays he struggles with that. same could happen to Coutinho.
Well that could also be attributed to the fact that he was still a little known kid back when he first started for us, nowadays defeners don't really let him out of their sights. So obviously it gets harder when you're being so tightly marked. Yes he's bulked up a lot but skill just doesn't fade away, he's still got it, just trying to find his feet in the positions he's playing, the extra attention he gets from markers and his new physique
X-Offender
Oct 26 2010, 07:54 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 26 2010, 07:56 PM)

That said, he's a little fellow and doesn't possess great physique. I don't know much more he can grow, but if he doesn't, in the future he will start to struggle in this league where defenders usually employ the simple method of "kick hard, left and right" on gifted players. in La Liga he could be as good as Bojan or maybe even Messi.
He'll grow, you'll see. He'll probably reach the same physique of Pato nowadays.
Zed.D
Oct 27 2010, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2010, 10:15 PM)

Well that could also be attributed to the fact that he was still a little known kid back when he first started for us, nowadays defeners don't really let him out of their sights. So obviously it gets harder when you're being so tightly marked. Yes he's bulked up a lot but skill just doesn't fade away, he's still got it, just trying to find his feet in the positions he's playing, the extra attention he gets from markers and his new physique
Yeah I meant he's struggling to use his skills for the very same reasons you mentioned. I remember 2 seasons ago in one of the games at San Siro (maybe Siena) he dribbled past 5-6 players - it was amazing. these days he can't do that. I hope it's a passing phase and he will find it back.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 26 2010, 10:24 PM)

He'll grow, you'll see. He'll probably reach the same physique of Pato nowadays.
I don't think so. Pato is ~180cm. Coutinho is 172. how much taller do you think he will get in 2-3 years' time? it definitely won't be 6-7cm.
If by grow you mean "muscles" and all, yes, of course he will get bigger. but I can't see him having a Lavezzi/Maradona kind of physique either.
But I repeat, he's definitely very talented! if not Serie A, he will be a star somewhere else.
paloschi43
Oct 28 2010, 06:07 PM
Coutinho is a nice talent and however he is more assist man. Pato is great player, i dont compare him with anyone.
Regarding what we need;
A world class GK who is better than our goalies.
World class wing backs.
World class one box to box, offensive also who can track ball well.
Trequartista someone like Pastore or someone like Honda...
Then, a vice ibrahimovic consideirng inzaghi is old and will retire very soon...
Then a solid CB Nesta's long term replacement...
X-Offender
Oct 28 2010, 06:16 PM
^ That's being too much unrealistic. We only need a CB, fullbacks and AM.
han2503
Oct 28 2010, 07:12 PM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Oct 28 2010, 05:07 PM)

Trequartista someone like Pastore or someone like Honda...
Putting Pastore and Honda in the same sentence should be illegal. What's happened to that guy these days. We haven't heard anything about him since the middle of the summer, after all that World Cup hype.
Pastore would be a dream, but it will never happen.
Anyways, imo all we need are FBs for both sides, another CB instead of Bonera and Onyewu, an AM instead of Dinho and bring Paloschi back instead of Pippo and maybe another CM
CHU-LIP
Oct 28 2010, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 28 2010, 08:12 PM)

Putting Pastore and Honda in the same sentence should be illegal. What's happened to that guy these days. We haven't heard anything about him since the middle of the summer, after all that World Cup hype.
Maybe because he plays for a club / in a competition you don't follow at all?
So for you: not hearing about = sucking ?
X-Offender
Oct 28 2010, 08:55 PM
Come on now CHU, Honda might be a really good player, but Pastore is on a whole other level.
CHU-LIP
Oct 28 2010, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 28 2010, 09:55 PM)

Come on now CHU, Honda might be a really good player, but Pastore is on a whole other level.
I was commenting on the part Han probably thinks he just got hyped. There is nothing wrong with mentioning both Pastore and Honda as players who would be good for us, even though one is obvious better. I never meant to say they were alike. Both would be great options to replace Ronaldinho with, the sooner the better.
han2503
Oct 28 2010, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 28 2010, 08:05 PM)

I was commenting on the part Han probably thinks he just got hyped. There is nothing wrong with mentioning both Pastore and Honda as players who would be good for us, even though one is obvious better. I never meant to say they were alike. Both would be great options to replace Ronaldinho with, the sooner the better.
No way is Honda a better option then Dinho. If he was as good as you say he is, then he would be in a bigger league/team by now.
Now a better option to Dinho is Pastore/VDV/etc, not Honda. That's a major step down. and if you prefer quantity to quality then sure go for it, but that usually is something Juve live by not Milan
amancik
Oct 28 2010, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2010, 04:28 AM)

No way is Honda a better option then Dinho. If he was as good as you say he is, then he would be in a bigger league/team by now.
Now a better option to Dinho is Pastore/VDV/etc, not Honda. That's a major step down. and if you prefer quantity to quality then sure go for it, but that usually is something Juve live by not Milan
Honda may not be a quality option to replace Ronaldinho, but IMO he's good enough to replace Seedorf. He's talented, he can play DM, CM, box-to-box, AM and even striker. But the best thing about him is, he helps the team out. He helps out the defence if needed to. I still remember watching a friendly Japan against Argentina recently, Japan won 1 - 0, Honda was lively throughout the match.
X-Offender
Oct 28 2010, 10:16 PM
We already have Boateng who can replace Seedorf. Out of the four midfielders, we need mostly an AM. The rest can be Boateng-Pirlo-Flamini/Gattuso/Ambrosini, even though a new quality DM wouldn't be that bad.
han2503
Oct 29 2010, 09:00 AM
QUOTE (amancik @ Oct 28 2010, 09:44 PM)

Honda may not be a quality option to replace Ronaldinho, but IMO he's good enough to replace Seedorf. He's talented, he can play DM, CM, box-to-box, AM and even striker. But the best thing about him is, he helps the team out. He helps out the defence if needed to. I still remember watching a friendly Japan against Argentina recently, Japan won 1 - 0, Honda was lively throughout the match.
But what is the point of bringing in a player who is ok at playing many positions when what we want is a top quality AM?
Bluesummers
Oct 29 2010, 09:38 AM
Honda is probably one of the better AM in europe right now. Saying no to him at this point would be very stupid. I am very confident we'll sign him this summer.
If we don't pay for him; our sponsors will. He is a great player, left footed 24 year old versatile midfielder. Very intelligent. His vision and tactical awareness are very high and here he will undoubtedly reach pirlo's levels.
Only problem is that he's non eu so were really going to have to becareful in the market this summer, which worries me.
There is also the possibility of Kaka. If we sign kaka then I don't see him coming but who knows. I'd welcome Kaka over anyone though
Jack Sparrow
Oct 29 2010, 11:05 AM
I actually wouldn't be shocked if Kaka came on loan with option this January. It would also mark the end of Ronaldinho in Milan....but the XMas tree would be back in operation with that.
Don't forget Kaka is one of the best SS in the world though recently he's been playing more of a CAM role. I wonder about his injuries though.
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