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kurtsimonw
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ May 7 2008, 09:28 PM)
not big as barca
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I don't think I'd be complaining with Robinho, Higuain and Nistelrooy on the bench.
kurtsimonw
Nistelrooy on for Raul.

PENALTY REAL, for handball!
kurtsimonw
4-0, Nistelrooy. Nice penalty.
Portman
4. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

F great night.
kurtsimonw
I think the scoreline's a little harsh on Real, they deserve more than 4. Valdez has had a decent game though, couldn't have done anything about the goals.
CrazyMilanFan
rijkaard should announce that he will stepdown aat the end of the season
whoarethepatriots
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ May 7 2008, 09:37 PM)
rijkaard should announce that he will stepdown aat the end of the season
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He probably will step down. Rumour has it that Pep Guardiola will take the bench, cue mass exodus of players
Tennie
So, Porty, are you dancing and drinking Tuborg by the litre just yet? 96.gif

It's been a good long while since last Real thrashed Barca this badly. Got home just in time to see the penalty against Puyol.
morgoth
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 7 2008, 10:15 PM)
Valdez yellow carded.. for diving! laugh.gif
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huh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh my God!!!

I can't believe it 4-0, it's way too much, for pity's sake what happened to the Catalonian sense of honour? Oh my, I really feel for them, especially since 3 days ago we could have been in the same situation. Imagine if we had lost to the merda and crowned them champions ohmy.gif Unbearable, that's too much for a football players ...
morgoth
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ May 7 2008, 10:37 PM)
rijkaard should announce that he will stepdown aat the end of the season
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He should do a merdici and go right after the end of the match!!!

4-1, at least they scored one dry.gif
kurtsimonw
4-1, Henry. Good finish.
whoarethepatriots
Whats more impressive was that the league was already decided, but it seems that spite is an incredible motivator
kurtsimonw
Xavi red card.
Portman
Good result for Barcelona. 1-4 is OK for them.

Now they'll fight with Atletico for the 3rd place. Villarreal is 2nd - confirmed.
dst
Humiliation! The Arrogants are going to remember this party for a long time... even if they want to, their bruises won't let them forget it... go home Losers!

The game was very entertaining! In terms of quality it was by far the best I've seen this season in all competitions. Great passing, great movement, great finishing, great goalkeeping (Valdes made many good saves but Casillas' on Messi's shot near the end was out of this world! ohmy.gif )... mostly thanks to Real. They played a very good game. They deserve the title. ****ers. sleep.gif
Portman
Photo of the season:

LaPalma
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
They look like little children that get to see their idols.....
Tennie
Great picture, Porty. Thanks for posting. smile.gif

And that's BEFORE they concede 4 to Real. Wonder if there IS any truth to the rumor that Deco and Eto'o got yellows on purpose over the weekend so they wouldn't have to be in the honor guard for Real.
dst
Ave, Real, morituri te salutant...
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Porty @ May 8 2008, 12:55 AM)
Good result for Barcelona. 1-4 is OK for them.

Now they'll fight with Atletico for the 3rd place. Villarreal is 2nd - confirmed.
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Without Ronaldinho, they seem weak! Ronaldinho really picked Barca back up when he came in, and now that he is cast out. Barca seem just a shadow of what they were in 06 and 05.
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ May 8 2008, 12:40 AM)
He has a reason to leave him out. But I think he would be useful. Spain won't win with or without him anyway...
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I've always thought it's because of this Real-Barca enmity. there's no unity within Spain NT and will never be.

QUOTE (dst @ May 8 2008, 12:47 AM)
Is Guti ever going to learn how to make a final pass!??
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You're joking right? he's made 9028346927468275392187351986 assists in his career.

QUOTE (Tennie @ May 8 2008, 02:53 AM)
Wonder if there IS any truth to the rumor that Deco and Eto'o got yellows on purpose over the weekend so they wouldn't have to be in the honor guard for Real.
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They give a loser a bad name rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 8 2008, 03:21 AM)
Without Ronaldinho, they seem weak!  Ronaldinho really picked Barca back up when he came in, and now that he is cast out. Barca seem just a shadow of what they were in 06 and 05.
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Agreed. even in his bad days he could at least score nice goals from free kicks. he really isn't being treated like he deserves, but that's Barca puke.gif they forget too quickly.
dst
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 8 2008, 09:13 AM)
I've always thought it's because of this Real-Barca enmity. there's no unity within Spain NT and will never be.
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I could not care less... I don't like them and I'm happy they fail. I hope it goes on like this.

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 8 2008, 09:13 AM)
You're joking right? he's made 9028346927468275392187351986 assists in his career.
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He has screwed up 10 times the number of assists he's made.

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 8 2008, 09:13 AM)
They give a loser a bad name rolleyes.gif
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You probably don't remember what happened the last time Madrid had to do the same thing.
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ May 8 2008, 11:40 AM)
You probably don't remember what happened the last time Madrid had to do the same thing.
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No I don't! what happened?!...
dst
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 8 2008, 12:25 PM)
No I don't! what happened?!...
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They did not form a proper tunnel and no one applauded the Barcelona players... I still can't find which season that was from damn it!
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ May 8 2008, 01:28 PM)
They did not form a proper tunnel and no one applauded the Barcelona players... I still can't find which season that was from damn it!
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Perhaps there's been a reason.
dst
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 8 2008, 01:05 PM)
Perhaps there's been a reason.
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They just hate each other... biggrin.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ May 8 2008, 01:40 PM)
They just hate each other... biggrin.gif
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But they do respect their [stupid] traditions. Calderon may hate Laporta [and vice versa] but he pretends it's the other way and watches the game next to him...
Jack Sparrow
Seems a good reason.
dst
If you're referring (also) to this tradition we're talking about then I don't agree, I really like it!

Anyway... I don't know if you have noticed but Spanish clubs have had some crazy presidents at times...

Ever heard of Jesus Gil? This guy was (he died on May 14, 2004) crazy. He was Atletico Madrid's president and mayor of Marbella. Funny guy but a friend of Franco... puke.gif

Here's the story I've heard about him:

When he was studying economics in Madrid he suddenly got fed up, walked down to the lecture theater's stage and said to the professor and students: "This is all bullshit, we're wasting our time. I'm leaving this place, I'm going to learn this stuff on the street. Don't worry, you will soon hear about me!"

And he was right! He became a contractor and in 1969 he built a mall in Los Ángeles de San Rafael and during the celebrations of it's opening, the building collapsed when there were 700 people in it, killing 58 of them... I'm sure his colleagues heard about him after that...

He did some time and then Franco helped him out.

He then went to Marbella and continued his business that made him rich and famous and turned the little town into a goldmine!

At this time he also starts meddling in Atletico's directorates... he meets Vicente Calderon and gets close to him. When the latter decides to retire Jesus Gil goes for the presidency. He became president in 1987 and maintained his position until 2003.

In 1991 he founded and led a new alliance which he called GIL, Grupo Independiente Liberal in order to become Marbella's mayor. He won and became a successful president, snatching another two victories in '95 and '99.

in '99 he goes to jail again as it was proved he transfered 450m pesetas (I think that's nearly 3m euros) from Marbella's cash-book to Atletico's one... he gets out after paying 100m pesetas.

In 2002 he is accused of having defrauded close to 4,500m pesetas in his first tenure as mayor. He gets sentenced and then gets out of jail in a week after paying 700k euros...

Anyway... here's the funny stuff

I love this first story: He always made fun of the Spanish journalist's cause they did not speak English at all. One time in an airport in Spain he started talking to the journalists in English and they did not get a thing so he started running and they kept running behind him and he told the airport security guys to arrest all those that were chasing him! laugh.gif Later, he went to release them laughing with tears and gave them English-learning books!

Some rich guy from Marbella gifted Jesus a little crocodile, which he named Furia (arrow) and took with him in Calderon's press room. There, after bad results, he was pointing at the crocodile, threatening his players! He also threatened the journalists he did not like that he would release Furia against them!

After a defeat in the league from Logroñés, Gil vent's his spleen on Atletico's forward Adolfo Valencia: "I will cut the scruff of this nigger! I'll **** his whore of a mother that let him out. I will kill him with my own hands". When the sporting judge called him to apologize he said: "Racism depends on one's point of view. And in this case, I am the victim, not he! I pay him, I give him a house and money and he doesn't give a **** about me! Maybe he has a problem with me being a white?"

When Ramón Mendoza invited him to watch the derby together he went all smiling wearing a scarf that read "Antimadritista"! cool.gif

He went against anyone... coaches, players, presidents and refs: Here's what he said to a French referee in front of some UEFA officials: "You are a fag and you will get your payment from your paedophile friends" biggrin.gif

He once said "my idols are Jesus, Franco and Che Guevara!"

His greatest moment as Atletico's president was when his team won the double (the only one they've won till today) in '96. He was so happy when they won that he wanted to parade with the trophies in front of the whole city. He made a secret agreement with some people from Madrid's zoo to get the zoo's elephants for the parade laugh.gif but the police found out and stopped it and guarded the zoo for a couple of days! biggrin.gif But then he rented a dozen of coaches and numerous horses and he paraded through thousands of people that were deifying him, passed by the Neptuno fountain (where the Atletico fans celebrate their team's victories), handed the trophies to Virgin Mary at the Madrid cathedral while the archbishop confered his benediction on him (I think he needed that!) and ended inside a full-house Vicente Calderon that he entered as a Roman emperor would after a victorious invasive war! laugh.gif

Here he punches and swears at Compostela's president Caneda!

And here his giving an interview from his house at Marbella. Check out the Atlético crest at the pool's bottom! cool.gif

Also here he is with a young Raul... damn it! sleep.gif
morgoth
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 8 2008, 07:13 AM)
I've always thought it's because of this Real-Barca enmity. there's no unity within Spain NT and will never be.
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Actually it's not only the real-Barça enmity, the whole country is divided in regions and every one has it's own language Catalan, Castillan, Sevillan ...ect
kurtsimonw
Well, everyone knew it was coming, but it's official: Rijkaar to leave Barca at the end of the season, Guardiola to take over.
dst


I he wasn't such an outrageously talented player... he'd probably be a nerd and a porn-addict! biggrin.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (dst @ May 8 2008, 12:47 PM)


I he wasn't such an outrageously talented player... he'd probably be a nerd and a porn-addict! biggrin.gif
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World of warcraft anyone? biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 8 2008, 06:59 PM)
World of warcraft anyone?  biggrin.gif
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What's that?
Habitant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 8 2008, 07:04 PM)
What's that?
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ohmy.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 8 2008, 07:33 PM)
ohmy.gif
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Should I know? blink.gif

I've never even heard of it!
morgoth
HT. Espanyol-Atletico 0-2 (Aguëro & Forlan)
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (morgoth @ May 8 2008, 08:50 PM)
HT. Espanyol-Atletico 0-2 (Aguëro & Forlan)
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Fantastic striker duo.
Tennie
Wow. Now we're seeing who the real geeks on the board are. biggrin.gif

(I don't do WoW myself but know those who do.)
morgoth
Sorry for being a geek sad.gif but in my defence I got the day off so ...

Edit. Oh and sorry for doing wow too.
Zed.D
I think it'll take a long time before another coach can do what Rijkaard did for Barca.
morgoth
FT. Espanyol 0-2 Atletico.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 8 2008, 08:04 PM)
What's that?
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those who play warcraft feel sorry for other people only GTA4 or MGS ( for me) superior to that I is RTS game with online play biggest online play one need another life to play WOW
whoarethepatriots
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 8 2008, 07:35 PM)
Should I know?  blink.gif

I've never even heard of it!
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I have heard of it but never played it (never really got into online games)

It has actually killed people.

QUOTE
Game addiction

Stories of game addiction are a common source of criticism of WoW, earning it the nickname "World of Warcrack"[65]. In June 2005 it was reported that a child had died due to neglect by her World of Warcraft-addicted parents in Korea.[66] In August of that year, the government of the People's Republic of China proposed new rules to curb what they perceived to be social and financial costs brought on by the popularity of online games in general. The measure would enforce a time limit on China's estimated total of 20 million gamers.[67]

Dr. Maressa Orzack, a clinical psychologist at McLean Hospital in Newton, Massachusetts, was interviewed August 8, 2006, stating that of the 6 million subscribers "I'd say that 40 percent of the players are addicted."[68] The 40% figure was not derived from a scientific study overseen by Dr. Orzack, but rather came from "a forum that Nick Yee runs". She added in an August 2006 interview that "even if the percentage is 5 to 10 percent which is standard for most addictive behaviors, it is a huge number of people who are out of control."[69] Also, according to Dr. John Grohol, a colleague of Orzack's, "Dr. Orzack is not claiming that up to 40 percent of World of Warcraft gamers are addicted based upon any actual evidence or surveys of players. This is just her opinion, based upon her own experience and observation of the problem."[70]


(From its Wiki page, if you put in world of warcraft on google news it will prob send u to a better page)

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ May 8 2008, 09:01 PM)
those who play warcraft feel sorry for other people only GTA4 or MGS ( for me) superior to that I is RTS game with online play biggest online play one need another life to play WOW
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Not played GTA4 yet (exams coming up), but Metal Gear Solid is god

Anyway in La Liga related news i was half expecting Laudrup to take over but Guardiola is no big surprise especially considering his past with the club
dst
Atlético closer to CL qualification! smile.gif

@Kurt: you should check episode 8 of South Park's season 10. It's called Make Love, Not Warcraft! It's just amazing... biggrin.gif

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Sneijder Stops Madrid Signing His Brother
Wesley Sneijder has revealed that he has stopped Real Madrid from trying to prise his younger brother away from Ajax and said that he was not a fan of clubs signing youth team players.

The 23-year-old Dutch international moved quickly after discovering that scouts for his current club had sent back very favourable reports about his sibling, Rodney.

Before Madrid could make an official approach, Wesley asked them to stop and told his brother that he should stay where he is and first break into the Ajax side.

"Real Madrid wanted him and Rodney was very happy about that. But when I heard, I stopped the discussions. I am not in favour of juniors increasingly going to top clubs," Sneijder senior explained.

"I've told him that he first must make a break through at Ajax."

Journalists in Holland have given Rodney the odd nickname of the Patient Pitbull and great things are expected of him, but for Wesley that will first come in Amsterdam with Ajax and not in Madrid.

goal

I'm with Sneijder. Think he did well.

Anyone knows anything about Rodney Sneijder!?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 8 2008, 11:06 PM)
I think it'll take a long time before another coach can do what Rijkaard did for Barca.
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Till they find a Romario/Rivaldo/Ronaldinho wink.gif
kurtsimonw
I read earlier that Rijkaard is Barca's 3rd longest serving coach ever. Surely this can't be true, he hasn't been there that long! ohmy.gif
arivanjj
hatrik for Dos Santos, his third was a beauty cool.gif
morgoth
QUOTE (arivanjj @ May 17 2008, 10:37 PM)
hatrik for Dos Santos, his third was a beauty cool.gif
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Probably his last game for Barcelona though so he's trying to find a new club biggrin.gif
morgoth
Zaragoza are relegated after their loss 3-2 to Mallorca. Oliveira scored both goals though.
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