QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 02:38 AM)
I was going to write that... 
We have clear ideas then.
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We have clear ideas then.
The same here
yeah Lyon is a strong team, they have done really well in the last few years in Europe, but again they haven't got the class to go to the finals...
Did Rui Costa play yesterday?
QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 14 2006, 07:03 PM)
Did Rui Costa play yesterday?
don't know why but he didn't play...
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 14 2006, 01:36 AM)
Nah, I think Lyon are strong enough to try and win the CL this year. And about our victory last season, you've got to admit they didn't let us play our game and we scored in the last 5 minutes, luckily. I honestly thought we were out, before Pippo put his leg in and we passed the turn. 
Don't forget that they had Diarra last season. He was the main reason why we couldn't play our game. I think it's more Real being weak this time rather then the greatness of Lyon. I've said this a million times and I'm going to say it again, Capello is not made for the CL, he is a good domestic league coach (grinding out results, out of small teams) but he not good in the CL. I might even be bold enough to say that Real might not make it out of that group. Highly unlikely but I think it could happen.
Champions League round-up
Arsenal and Manchester United started their UEFA Champions League campaigns with wins, but Real Madrid were beaten at Lyon.
The Gunners were too good for Hamburg, but The Red Devils were pushed to the limit by Celtic before running out 3-2 winners.
Lyon took the scalp of Real Madrid once again, while Milan proved far too classy for AEK Athens and Steaua Bucharest thrashed Dynamo Kiev.
An early penalty from Gilberto, following Robin van Persie's tumble, set Arsenal on their way to victory at Hamburg.
Hamburg found life tough playing with a man down following keeper Sascha Kirschstein's dismissal and their hopes were dashed when Tomas Rosicky rifled home from 25 yards.
Boubacar Sanogo drilled home from 12 yards deep into stoppage time to set up a grandstand finish but The Gunners held on.
Arsenal look firm favourites to progress as Porto and CSKA Moscow drew 0-0.
Celtic threatened to cause an upset at Old Trafford, but were undone by a Louis Saha-inspired United.
Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink rifled Celtic ahead on 21 minutes, but Saha netted a penalty after Ryan Giggs had tumbled under minimal contact on the half hour.
Saha grabbed a second on 40 minutes, slotting home after a precise pass from Paul Scholes. Any thoughts of United being able to move into cruise control were snuffed out when Shunsuke Nakamura curled home a superb free kick to level the scores.
Celtic, though, proved to be the architects of their own downfall as Thomas Gravesen gifted possession to United and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer tapped home after Saha had been denied by Artur Boruc.
Sir Alex Ferguson's men hold a cushion at the top of Group F after one game as Copenhagen and Benfica drew 0-0 in Denmark.
Lyon put Real Madrid to the sword 12 months ago and they repeated the trick, at home on Wednesday.
Brazilian Fred put Lyon ahead on 11 minutes with a neat chip after being found superbly by Juninho and Portuguese star Tiago added a second just past the half-hour mark.
Milan showed no signs of a hangover from the match-fixing scandal in Italy, as they made short work of AEK Athens at the San Siro.
An early header from Filippo Inzaghi set the Rossoneri on their way to three points and another header just before the break from Yoann Gourcuff knocked the stuffing out of the Greeks.
Milan were rarely tested after the break and a penalty from Kaka 13 minutes from time sealed a deserved success.
Steaua Bucharest made their return to Europe's top club competition following a ten-year absence a winning one as they took the scalp of Dynamo Kiev.
Sorin Ghionea headed Steaua ahead on three minutes, but Sergei Rebrov showed all his quality in front of goal to level the scores shortly afterwards.
The visitors rallied, though, and a headed effort from Valentin Badea and a fine free kick from Nicolae Dica shortly before the interval put the visitors in control and Dica added a second after the break to cap a fine success.
Anderlecht and Lille shared the spoils in an entertaining affair at the Constant Vanden Stock Stadion.
It proved to be a game of two halves in Belgium, as Anderlecht dominated the opening 45 minutes and held a deserved leads through Nicola Pareja.
However, Lille, inspired by some attacking substitutions, roared forward in the second half and Nicolas Fauvergue grabbed a deserved leveller with ten minutes remaining.
Arsenal and Manchester United started their UEFA Champions League campaigns with wins, but Real Madrid were beaten at Lyon.
The Gunners were too good for Hamburg, but The Red Devils were pushed to the limit by Celtic before running out 3-2 winners.
Lyon took the scalp of Real Madrid once again, while Milan proved far too classy for AEK Athens and Steaua Bucharest thrashed Dynamo Kiev.
An early penalty from Gilberto, following Robin van Persie's tumble, set Arsenal on their way to victory at Hamburg.
Hamburg found life tough playing with a man down following keeper Sascha Kirschstein's dismissal and their hopes were dashed when Tomas Rosicky rifled home from 25 yards.
Boubacar Sanogo drilled home from 12 yards deep into stoppage time to set up a grandstand finish but The Gunners held on.
Arsenal look firm favourites to progress as Porto and CSKA Moscow drew 0-0.
Celtic threatened to cause an upset at Old Trafford, but were undone by a Louis Saha-inspired United.
Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink rifled Celtic ahead on 21 minutes, but Saha netted a penalty after Ryan Giggs had tumbled under minimal contact on the half hour.
Saha grabbed a second on 40 minutes, slotting home after a precise pass from Paul Scholes. Any thoughts of United being able to move into cruise control were snuffed out when Shunsuke Nakamura curled home a superb free kick to level the scores.
Celtic, though, proved to be the architects of their own downfall as Thomas Gravesen gifted possession to United and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer tapped home after Saha had been denied by Artur Boruc.
Sir Alex Ferguson's men hold a cushion at the top of Group F after one game as Copenhagen and Benfica drew 0-0 in Denmark.
Lyon put Real Madrid to the sword 12 months ago and they repeated the trick, at home on Wednesday.
Brazilian Fred put Lyon ahead on 11 minutes with a neat chip after being found superbly by Juninho and Portuguese star Tiago added a second just past the half-hour mark.
Milan showed no signs of a hangover from the match-fixing scandal in Italy, as they made short work of AEK Athens at the San Siro.
An early header from Filippo Inzaghi set the Rossoneri on their way to three points and another header just before the break from Yoann Gourcuff knocked the stuffing out of the Greeks.
Milan were rarely tested after the break and a penalty from Kaka 13 minutes from time sealed a deserved success.
Steaua Bucharest made their return to Europe's top club competition following a ten-year absence a winning one as they took the scalp of Dynamo Kiev.
Sorin Ghionea headed Steaua ahead on three minutes, but Sergei Rebrov showed all his quality in front of goal to level the scores shortly afterwards.
The visitors rallied, though, and a headed effort from Valentin Badea and a fine free kick from Nicolae Dica shortly before the interval put the visitors in control and Dica added a second after the break to cap a fine success.
Anderlecht and Lille shared the spoils in an entertaining affair at the Constant Vanden Stock Stadion.
It proved to be a game of two halves in Belgium, as Anderlecht dominated the opening 45 minutes and held a deserved leads through Nicola Pareja.
However, Lille, inspired by some attacking substitutions, roared forward in the second half and Nicolas Fauvergue grabbed a deserved leveller with ten minutes remaining.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 12:57 AM)
Porto 0-0. Benfica 0-0... 2 sh1tty games...
I tried to watch both after Milan's game; thankfully (as I later experienced) the Porto game was shown first; well it was no great match but that kid Anderson ...
It was a night full of surprises the last one!!!! 18 year old and he can do that!!??? His movements are of an experienced player ... It's amazing how easily youngsters adapt to the game ... him, Yoann, Fabregas ... 
The Benfica game ... well let's just say that it was boring ... I turned it off in the 15th minute as Nelson was on the bench as well ...
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 14 2006, 01:03 AM)
Not to mention they've lost Essien and Diarra in the last two seasons.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 01:10 AM)
And got 38+24 M for that... that means more than 60M euros... in 2 seasons selling players and keeping the team at the highest level.
That is amazingly well management!!!
Lyon is definetely a great team. They were great last season too and we would have easily lost if they did not make the mistake to sit back at defence; having played their game I'm afraid it would be a nightmarish night for us!!!
and to think that they were in Ligue 2 some years ago having never won the French Championship ... their managers make FM look like reality!!!!!!
Steaua's managers and coach too have done an explicit work the last three seasons!!!
The fb world is really becoming a manager game!!!
PS Biggest joke yesterday was not Real but Gravesen .......
PS2 Canna really looked like in his Inter games now .. didn't he han!!??
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 11:05 AM)
PS2 Canna really looked like in his Inter games now .. didn't he han!!??
I haven't watched the whole match but I saw the highlights. And that is what it looks like to me
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 14 2006, 02:16 PM)
I haven't watched the whole match but I saw the highlights. And that is what it looks like to me
I hope that now people will see who's better between him and Nesta
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:27 PM)
I hope that now people will see who's better between him and Nesta
Nesta is better than cann. Cann was brilliant in the worldcup where nesta was injured but i think nesta is better
QUOTE (fahad @ Sep 14 2006, 02:47 PM)
Nesta is better than cann. Cann was brilliant in the worldcup where nesta was injured but i think nesta is better
We all know that ... but people who don't watch Serie A (the majority) and watched the World Cup this summer (probably every single one of them) might think the opposite!!!
QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 14 2006, 09:03 AM)
Did Rui Costa play yesterday?
No, injuried. In Benfica, at the moment, everybody is injuried.
QUOTE (fahad @ Sep 14 2006, 11:47 AM)
Nesta is better than cann. Cann was brilliant in the worldcup where nesta was injured but i think nesta is better
I think both are good, but Cannavaro needs another great defender next to him, not an young one with no experience like S.Ramos...
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 01:05 PM)
I think both are good, but Cannavaro needs another great defender next to him, not an young one with no experience like S.Ramos...
Sergio Ramos is better as RB IMO. He played pretty well for Spain in the World Cup in that position.
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Spanish Press slam Canna
The Spanish Press were scathing about Fabio Cannavaro’s poor performance in Real Madrid’s Champions League defeat to Lyon.
The Merengues were beaten 2-0 after being outplayed by the French outfit in all departments, with the Azzurri captain one of the worst players on the pitch.
“Nothing worked for Real Madrid and what was even more amazing was the horrible performance offered by Cannavaro,†said AS on Thursday.
“The defender was the symbol of a chaotic Real Madrid and was involved in most of their worst moments.
“The No 5 was slow, insecure and confused, a perfect representative of this muddled and chaotic Real Madrid.â€
Cannavaro offered no excuses, admitting that the team did not play as expected on such an important occasion.
“We played an awful match, especially during the first half. Most of our mistakes, which were many, had to do with their physical superiority,†explained the former Juve man to the club’s website.
“I don’t think it was a concentration problem because when you face teams like Lyon your concentration peaks automatically.
“We are worried, but we want to get back on track as soon as possible. This is just the beginning of the season and these things can happen.â€
Coach Fabio Capello also revealed his disappointment with the performance, although he remains confident of qualification.
“Of course I am unhappy after this match, but we have to lift our heads, think positively and concentrate on what lies ahead,†said Don Fabio.
“We have a great deal of work to do, but I have confidence in my team. I am sure that we will recover from this and the home match with Dynamo Kiev gives us a chance to redeem ourselves.â€
The Spanish Press were scathing about Fabio Cannavaro’s poor performance in Real Madrid’s Champions League defeat to Lyon.
The Merengues were beaten 2-0 after being outplayed by the French outfit in all departments, with the Azzurri captain one of the worst players on the pitch.
“Nothing worked for Real Madrid and what was even more amazing was the horrible performance offered by Cannavaro,†said AS on Thursday.
“The defender was the symbol of a chaotic Real Madrid and was involved in most of their worst moments.
“The No 5 was slow, insecure and confused, a perfect representative of this muddled and chaotic Real Madrid.â€
Cannavaro offered no excuses, admitting that the team did not play as expected on such an important occasion.
“We played an awful match, especially during the first half. Most of our mistakes, which were many, had to do with their physical superiority,†explained the former Juve man to the club’s website.
“I don’t think it was a concentration problem because when you face teams like Lyon your concentration peaks automatically.
“We are worried, but we want to get back on track as soon as possible. This is just the beginning of the season and these things can happen.â€
Coach Fabio Capello also revealed his disappointment with the performance, although he remains confident of qualification.
“Of course I am unhappy after this match, but we have to lift our heads, think positively and concentrate on what lies ahead,†said Don Fabio.
“We have a great deal of work to do, but I have confidence in my team. I am sure that we will recover from this and the home match with Dynamo Kiev gives us a chance to redeem ourselves.â€
Imo Nesta has always been the better one of the two. Canna was great when he was at Parma, then he moved to Inter, and that's where he lost his way. He was average for Juve but he had an almost super human like world cup.
I'm still happy that the Inter Canna is playing for Real, they got what they deserved for constantly tapping up players of other clubs most importantly for tapping up Kaka.
And this will only make me happy, I would bet money that Real, even with Cappello will still be in the black whole they have been living in for these past few seasons. Which is great news for us since no top player like Kaka would want to go to a club like that
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 14 2006, 02:25 PM)
And this will only make me happy, I would bet money that Real, even with Cappello will still be in the black whole they have been living in for these past few seasons. Which is great news for us since no top player like Kaka would want to go to a club like that
I think this new Real Madrid need time. You don't build a team in 1-2 months. They need time to start performing well, specially in Europe.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 03:46 PM)
I think this new Real Madrid need time. You don't build a team in 1-2 months. They need time to start performing well, specially in Europe.
I think they're pathetic. It's not a new Real Madrid, it's the same lame Real, only the coach and president have changed. But, haven't they changed constantly over the last 2-3 years? First was Perez, then Fernando MartÃn, now Calderon. Look at the choaches after Del Bosque left: Queiroz, Camacho, Remón, Luxemburgo, Lopez Caro and now Capello. And this only in the last 3 years. They change them every season. The same with the players. Real is like Inter, always the favourite with superstars in their squad but in the end they win nothing.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 14 2006, 01:36 AM)
Nah, I think Lyon are strong enough to try and win the CL this year. And about our victory last season, you've got to admit they didn't let us play our game and we scored in the last 5 minutes, luckily. I honestly thought we were out, before Pippo put his leg in and we passed the turn.
hehe, yeah great Pippo! I really have a lot of respect for Lyon. They don't have the money we have and they sell key players like Essien and Diarra every year. Still they're one of the best teams out there...
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 14 2006, 03:09 PM)
I think they're pathetic. It's not a new Real Madrid, it's the same lame Real, only the coach and president have changed. But, haven't they changed constantly over the last 2-3 years? First was Perez, then Fernando MartÃn, now Calderon. Look at the choaches after Del Bosque left: Queiroz, Camacho, Remón, Luxemburgo, Lopez Caro and now Capello. And this only in the last 3 years. They change them every season. The same with the players. Real is like Inter, always the favourite with superstars in their squad but in the end they win nothing.
Are you comparing Real Madrid to Inter? The world's best team ever (29 spanish leagues + 9 CL) to a lame team like Perdenti?
It's like comparing Milan to Palermo...
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 06:52 PM)
Are you comparing Real Madrid to Inter? The world's best team ever (29 spanish leagues + 9 CL) to a lame team like Perdenti?
The greatness of a team is much more than it's number of silverware IMO but yes Inter cannot be compared to Real !!!
Still I don't agree with you on that Real need so much time to find her way cause the backbone is the same; what needs to be changed is the mentality and that is hard to do; IMO Capello was never up to that job ... but we'll see ...
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 03:52 PM)
Are you comparing Real Madrid to Inter? The world's best team ever (29 spanish leagues + 9 CL) to a lame team like Perdenti?
It's like comparing Milan to Palermo...
It's like comparing Milan to Palermo...
No you can't compare their history, but they can be compared to Inter because of what they are becoming. Real have been slipping in 'Inter zone' for these past few years. The constant changing of coaches and players, is one indication. And I don't think that they will give their current players a chance to gel with eachother, if they fail this year another complete over-haul will happen just like at Inter.
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:01 PM)
The greatness of a team is much more than it's number of silverware IMO but yes Inter cannot be compared to Real !!!
Their history cannot be compared with each other's YES, but their current situation is VERY comparable.
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:01 PM)
Still I don't agree with you on that Real need so much time to find her way cause the backbone is the same; what needs to be changed is the mentality and that is hard to do; IMO Capello was never up to that job ... but we'll see ...
You're a very wise man dst. Totally right.
What han said, exactly what he said! 
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 14 2006, 09:28 PM)
What han said, exactly what he said!
You're sounding like Jack sparrow.
Where is Jack btw? I haven't seen him on these boards for quite sometime
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:02 PM)
Their history cannot be compared with each other's YES, but their current situation is VERY comparable.
Like it or not, Inter won the paper scudetto + coppa + supercoppa. 3 titles in 1 season... Real no. Not a single one.
They've the italian badge on their shirt... we know it was "given" but.. sadly it's there.
About the coaches and players in and out, yes... you got a point there.
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 15 2006, 12:02 AM)
Their history cannot be compared with each other's YES, but their current situation is
It's one thing comparing the "greatness" of a club and another to compare two squads/teams of the same period!!!
I think we agree but we just talk things differently
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 09:44 PM)
Like it or not, Inter won the paper scudetto + coppa + supercoppa. 3 titles in 1 season... Real no. Not a single one.
They've the italian badge on their shirt... we know it was "given" but.. sadly it's there.
About the coaches and players in and out, yes... you got a point there.
They've the italian badge on their shirt... we know it was "given" but.. sadly it's there.
About the coaches and players in and out, yes... you got a point there.
Still, the Coppa Italia and Super cup? Who the hell gives a damn?? Look aat Milan for instance we don't even play the strongest B team for the coppa games. Inter always try their hardest in those games because they all know that it's teir only chance of silverware in the season.
And yes the damn badge is still on that damn shirt. But does that signify that they are the BEST team in Italy and that they desereved it?? NOOO!!!!! That was just a gift from Guido Rossi because he knew that that was the only way for them to win anything that is worthwhile.
And still what you said just points out how low Real have become. The only reason why you read 'European powerhouse Real Madrid' when you read an article is because of their history, not because it reflects what they are now. When calling Milan a powerhouse it is totally different, our history and record in the CL should be enought to indicate what we are.
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 10:06 PM)
It's one thing comparing the "greatness" of a club and another to compare two squads/teams of the same period!!!
I think we agree but we just talk things differently
I think we agree but we just talk things differently
I think that is it. We are saying the same thing here. That's why I said you are a wise man
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CL - Group Stage - Round 2
E Real Madrid 20:45 Dynamo Kyiv
E Steaua 20:45 Lyon
F Benfica 20:45 Man. United
F Celtic 20:45 København
G CSKA Moskva 18:30 Hamburg
G Arsenal 20:45 Porto
H AEK 20:45 Anderlecht
H Lille 20:45 Milan
*Italian Time
E Real Madrid 20:45 Dynamo Kyiv
E Steaua 20:45 Lyon
F Benfica 20:45 Man. United
F Celtic 20:45 København
G CSKA Moskva 18:30 Hamburg
G Arsenal 20:45 Porto
H AEK 20:45 Anderlecht
H Lille 20:45 Milan
*Italian Time
My predictions for tonight:
Real, Lyon, Man Utd, Celtic, CSKA, Arsenal, a X in AEK-And and Milan to win obviously.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 26 2006, 12:53 PM)
My predictions for tonight:
Real, Lyon, Man Utd, Celtic, CSKA, Arsenal, a X in AEK-And and Milan to win obviously.
Real, Lyon, Man Utd, Celtic, CSKA, Arsenal, a X in AEK-And and Milan to win obviously.
I don't think Man U will win in Portugal, ... Portugal !!! AEK will lose ...
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 26 2006, 01:35 PM)
I don't think Man U will win in Portugal, ... Portugal !!! AEK will lose ...
They will be extra motivated. AEK game looks like a boring draw to me.
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 26 2006, 02:13 PM)
AEK game looks like a boring draw to me.
make sure you stay away from it !!!
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 26 2006, 02:15 PM)
make sure you stay away from it !!!
I sure will
is Rui Costa playing tonight!!?
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 26 2006, 02:23 PM)
is Rui Costa playing tonight!!?
No. He is still injured
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CL - Group Stage - Round 2
E Real Madrid 20:45 Dynamo Kyiv
E Steaua 20:45 Lyon
F Benfica 20:45 Man. United
F Celtic 20:45 København
G CSKA Moskva 18:30 Hamburg
G Arsenal 20:45 Porto
H AEK 20:45 Anderlecht
H Lille 20:45 Milan
*Italian Time
E Real Madrid 20:45 Dynamo Kyiv
E Steaua 20:45 Lyon
F Benfica 20:45 Man. United
F Celtic 20:45 København
G CSKA Moskva 18:30 Hamburg
G Arsenal 20:45 Porto
H AEK 20:45 Anderlecht
H Lille 20:45 Milan
*Italian Time
My predictions would be Real, Lyon, Benfica (Forza RUI!), Kopenhagen, Hamburg (I hope), Arsenal, Anderlecht and of course MILAN!
Rui Costa is not going to play. Nelson will be in the bench probably (this one is for dst). Well, Benfica has a good attack: Simão-Nuno Gomes-Miccoli... but the team is not performing any good lately (lot of injuries too). ManUtd will win this one easily.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 26 2006, 03:38 PM)
Rui Costa is not going to play. Nelson will be in the bench probably (this one is for dst). Well, Benfica has a good attack: Simão-Nuno Gomes-Miccoli... but the team is not performing any good lately (lot of injuries too). ManUtd will win this one easily.
Rui is not going to play again? Does he have some kind of long term injury, because he didn't play against Kopenhagen either...
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Sep 26 2006, 04:00 PM)
Rui is not going to play again? Does he have some kind of long term injury, because he didn't play against Kopenhagen either...
He'll play probably in 1 week. I think he could play today, but Benfica is just doing this for precaution (don't know if this word exists).
Moskau 1, Hamburg 0. Hamburg is playing so bad this year...
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Sep 26 2006, 05:48 PM)
Moskau 1, Hamburg 0. Hamburg is playing so bad this year...
Dudu scored.
Benjamin "Benny Bomber" Lauth was just sent off red carded... that's it Hamburg...
Real Madrid 5 - 1 Dynamo Kyiv 
Steaua Bucuresti 0 - 3 Lyon
Benfica 0 - 1 Manchester U.
Celtic 1 - 0 FC Copenhagen
CSKA Moscow 1 - 0 Hamburger SV
Arsenal 2 - 0 FC Porto
AEK Athens 1 - 1 Anderlecht
Lille 0 - 0 AC Milan
Steaua Bucuresti 0 - 3 Lyon
Benfica 0 - 1 Manchester U.
Celtic 1 - 0 FC Copenhagen
CSKA Moscow 1 - 0 Hamburger SV
Arsenal 2 - 0 FC Porto
AEK Athens 1 - 1 Anderlecht
Lille 0 - 0 AC Milan
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 26 2006, 09:53 AM)
My predictions for tonight:
Real, Lyon, Man Utd, Celtic, CSKA, Arsenal, a X in AEK-And and Milan to win obviously.
Real, Lyon, Man Utd, Celtic, CSKA, Arsenal, a X in AEK-And and Milan to win obviously.
1 miss... on our match.
No comments...
and I missed on a portugeuse team again ...
I just finished watching the re-run on the Arsenal-Porto game ..
If Arsenal keep this up and Lehmeen plays as good as he did in last yrs CL, I think they will make it, at least, to the final 4 .. They are fine in all departments !
Lyon also are a very dynamic team, when we played them .. I really envied the way they attack when compared to us .. It's like their whole team kept pushing forward. And tonight, (actually watching Steaue-Lyon, right now) Lyon can still be considered a very dangerous team, even without Diarra's contribution to the MDField.
If Arsenal keep this up and Lehmeen plays as good as he did in last yrs CL, I think they will make it, at least, to the final 4 .. They are fine in all departments !
Lyon also are a very dynamic team, when we played them .. I really envied the way they attack when compared to us .. It's like their whole team kept pushing forward. And tonight, (actually watching Steaue-Lyon, right now) Lyon can still be considered a very dangerous team, even without Diarra's contribution to the MDField.
I agree ... I think Arsenal and Lyon are the most complete teams (that is not squads, not individual players) in Europe right now. They are fast and are great in all aspects ... It would be great to watch them play against each other !!!
Raul scored 2 last night surpassing the English Student, and the R.Madrid captain is now the #1 top scorer in CL history.
#1 Raul - 53 goals
#2 Shevchenko - 52
#3 Ruud van Nistelrooy and Di Stefano - 49
#1 Raul - 53 goals
#2 Shevchenko - 52
#3 Ruud van Nistelrooy and Di Stefano - 49
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 27 2006, 04:15 PM)
Raul scored 2 last night surpassing the English Student, and the R.Madrid captain is now the #1 top scorer in CL history.
#1 Raul - 53 goals
#2 Shevchenko - 52
#3 Ruud van Nistelrooy and Di Stefano - 49
#1 Raul - 53 goals
#2 Shevchenko - 52
#3 Ruud van Nistelrooy and Di Stefano - 49
Wow .. this is very close, especially between Raul and V.nistelrooy .. team-mates, but extra motivation to score in CL
Raul deserves to be above the Liar ... but I dislike Ruud so much I wish ES starts to score !!
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