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KillerMax
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 28 2006, 02:25 AM)
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Ahh, denial... It always seems to work.
han2503
My little review of the CL matches I watched

Inter - Bayern laugh.gif . It's a disgrace that they are wearing that badge on their shirt. "The Italian Champions" can't even get off the mark in their group. Totally outplayed by Bayern

Levski - Chelsea: I think watching the food reheat in the microwave would have been more interesting

Bremen - Barca: I was rooting for Bremen and think they totally deserved it.
misha
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2006, 08:47 PM)
Bremen - Barca: I was rooting for Bremen and think they totally deserved it.
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Yes, me too. Bremen had good chances and should have won. They will regret it later on
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2006, 06:47 PM)
Inter - Bayern laugh.gif . It's a disgrace that they are wearing that badge on their shirt. "The Italian Champions" can't even get off the mark in their group. Totally outplayed by Bayern

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Dont be too fast. They will make Guido rossi president of the uefa and they'll get their paper Cl cup too biggrin.gif

Ah Inter , since 1908 the real comedy of Milan laugh.gif
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 28 2006, 08:10 PM)
Ahh, denial... It always seems to work.
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here I go again ... huh.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 28 2006, 04:18 PM)
here I go again ...  huh.gif
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I mean if you have not gotten the joke by now... then just let go. It's ok! There'll be more.. biggrin.gif
misha
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'Crazy' Inter slated after red cards

Inter Milan were yesterday pilloried for their lack of self-control after they had two men sent off in their 2-0 home defeat to Bayern Munich in the Champions League.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic's pair of yellow cards and Fabio Grosso's red for elbowing Willy Sagnol in the face during Wednesday's match were the latest evidence, they said, of the team's tendency to self-destruct.

Midfielder Patrick Vieira had already picked up red cards in Inter's Champions League opener against Sporting Lisbon and last week's Serie A match against AS Roma.

"Inter, Are You Crazy?" asked the front page of La Gazzetta dello Sport, which described how the dismissals of Ibrahimovic and Grosso had "short-circuited" the team.

"Inter put themselves in trouble," ran the headline in Corriere dello Sport, while La Stampa settled for "Inter also lose face".

The result left the team that the Chelsea manager, Jose Mourinho, described earlier this month as "the best in the world" bottom of Champions League Group B with no points from two matches.

With home and away fixtures against Spartak Moscow, a home match with Sporting Lisbon and a trip to Germany to play Bayern still to come, the Italians face a battle to qualify for the knockout phase of the competition.

Ibrahimovic's strike partner, Hernan Crespo, said he was confident the team could still go through. "We've still got time to sort things out. If we can take nine points from the next three games, then we can go to Bayern with a lot of confidence," the Argentine was quoted as saying in La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"Of course, if we manage to finish a match with 11 men it will make life easier for ourselves, too."

The Inter coach, Roberto Mancini, also tried to put a positive spin on the result, reminding his players that back-to-back wins in their next two matches against Spartak could lift them to second place.

History, however, suggests that a good run in the competition is unlikely. Only four teams have managed to qualify from their group after losing their first two matches — Dynamo Kiev in 1999-2000, Newcastle United and Bayer Leverkusen in 2002-03 and Werder Bremen last season — and none of them went further than the last 16. devil.gif

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Rossoneri7
Inter r a joke, but what really agrivates me is them being the joke that they r with the Italian badge on their chests .. That is a disgrace .. mad.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2006, 01:29 AM)
Inter r a joke, but what really agrivates me is them being the joke that they r with the Italian badge on their chests .. That is a disgrace ..  mad.gif
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Inter....funny guys...you gotta love them wink.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Sep 29 2006, 04:36 AM)
Inter....funny guys...you gotta love them wink.gif
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Definaly .. But not w/ that badge on their chests; I mean thats the pride of an entire nation, thank God Im not Italian tongue.gif

They'r acting like a 4 yr old who is eating icecream and is making a mess everywhere .. Still, they crack me up everytime they stumble, cuz u know, they do it in style laugh.gif Theidiots even admit it .. They say it, Inter is a crazy club .. should be crazy and hillarious biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 29 2006, 01:59 AM)
I mean if you have not gotten the joke by now... then just let go. It's ok! There'll be more..  biggrin.gif
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Oh ... OK !! unsure.gif biggrin.gif
Warchant
*thinks of Inter*

*begins to laugh*
misha
Dynamo Kyiv 0 - 3 Lyon sad.gif

Steaua 1 - 4 Real Madrid

Celtic 3 - 0 Benfica

Manchester U. 3 - 0 FC Copenhagen

CSKA Moscow 1 - 0 Arsenal

FC Porto 4 - 1 Hamburger SV

Lille 3 - 1 AEK Athens
X-Offender
What goals from Robinho and V. Nistelrooy. And did you see Juninho's free kick? That guy's a genius, I tell you.
misha
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 18 2006, 12:30 AM)
And did you see Juninho's free kick? That guy's a genius, I tell you.
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It was good but I think a keeper was a little bit slow there
Portman
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 17 2006, 10:30 PM)
What goals from Robinho and V. Nistelrooy.
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Nice but Kaka' was the goal of the day for sure. king.gif

Robinho playing on the left wing is something. Good choice by Capello. rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 18 2006, 01:30 AM)
And did you see Juninho's free kick? That guy's a genius, I tell you.
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What a goal !!!!!
dst
Juninho takes that free-kick so mechanically it looks like PES !! unsure.gif biggrin.gif

Best goal of the night is Ricky's and then comes van Nisterlooy's for me !!
arivanjj
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 18 2006, 11:49 AM)
Juninho takes that free-kick so mechanically it looks like PES !!  unsure.gif  biggrin.gif

laugh.gif yeah, he's a freekick machine.
arivanjj
Chelsea vs. Barcelona preview

The footballing world is set to come to a standstill on Wednesday night, as yet another edition of football's arguably biggest contemporary rivalry is played out.

In less than two years, the Chelsea-Barcelona saga has managed to reach the crescendo that is associated with games such as Milan-Inter, Arsenal-Manchester United, and Real Madrid-Barcelona.

Very few clashes today can generate the kind of interest that the prospect of Mourinho and Rijkaard coming head to head yet again can.

Claims of coaches influencing referees, of manipulation of the pitch, controversial red cards, controversial goals - just four games have given us almost everything.

Chelsea will not forget the two red cards, shown to Drogba and Del Horno, just as Barcelona will not let go of that controversial Terry header 18 months ago, when Carvalho had an arm around Valdes, or the way the pitch was allowed to deteriorate.

There will be no letting go, only hitting back!

Not A Knock-Out Tie?

Both camps have their arsenal ready, with Mourinho insisting that his charges will do much better than they did six months ago, and Rijkaard carefully marshalling his troops over the weekend so that everyone is fresh for the London game.

That neither team will be knocked out of the competition just yet, makes both sides more comfortable to express themselves.

That said, the pressure is no less, with Chelsea seething for revenge following last year's exit, and having to sit an watch as Barcelona won the final in Paris. Barca have just as much at stake. Despite deserving last year's win, they know they need to win again, and without anyone getting sent off, to put detractors firmly in their place.

TEAM NEWS

Chelsea

Reserve team keepers Hilario and Makabu Ma Kalambay have been included in the squad, in place of Cech and Cudicini, both of whom were rules out for the Barcelona clash with head injuries sustained against Reading (Cech for much longer following surgery). Other than that, he has all his main players available.

Doubts remain over whether he will play Robben alongside Drogba and Shevchenko, looking to trouble Barcelona with pace, or stick with all four of Makelele, Essien, Lampard and Ballack in midfield looking to muscle Barcelona off the ball. A lot will depend on whther or not they want to adopt a safety first approach, but either way, a star-studded line-up is on the cards.

Squad: Hilario, Ferreira, Boulahrouz, Carvalho, Terry, Bridge, A Cole, Geremi, Makelele, Diarra, Essien, Mikel, Ballack, Lampard, J Cole, Kalou, Robben, Wright-Phillips, Drogba, Shevchenko, Kalambay.


Probable Starting XI: Hilario, Ferreira, Carvalho, Terry, A Cole, Makelele, Essien, Lampard, Ballack, Drogba, Shevchenko.

Barcelona

It doesn't get more star-studded than the Spanish and European champions – despite Etoo's absence. Belletti is the only player Rijkaard is without, but the Brazilian wasn't expected to start anyway. Rijkaard has taken his entire squad of 22 to London, including Eto'o and Belletti, to have the whole squad together.Of the twenty, he will have to discard two ahead of tomorrow's game, and Ezquerro and Sylvinho seem to be the likely ones.

Gio van Bronckhorst, Edmilson, Puyol, Zambrotta and Deco will all return to the first eleven for this clash, having been rested over the weekend (though Zambrotta was forced to come on for Belletti). Ronaldinho, Messi, Xavi, Valdes and Marquez are also set to start, with Iniesta, Giuly and Saviola on the bench, though it is being suggested that Rijkaard could opt for the Saviola surprise.

Squad: Valdes, Jorquera, Sylvinho, Oleguer, Zambrotta, Thuram, Marquez, Puyol, Gio, Edmilson, Motta, Iniesta, Xavi, Deco, Giuly, Saviola, Ronaldinho, Messi, Gudjohnsen, Ezquerro.

Probable Starting XI: Valdes, Zambrotta, Marquez, Puyol, Gio, Edmilson, Xavi, Deco, Ronaldinho, Messi, Gudjohnsen.

PLAYERS TO WATCH

It is very difficult to pick from the amount of talent that will be there on the pitch, but a few will be watched more than the others.

Ronaldinho: He has scored thrice in four games against the Blues, two of them absolute works of art. His display against Sevilla over the weekend promised an even better show against Chelsea. A couple of great performances in big matches could well win one the Player of the Year award, as history has often shown.

Lampard: Rumoured to have wanted a move to Barcelona over the summer, the midfielder seems to have pulled it back together with some strong displays, even though he is yet to hit peak form. What a time it would be to do that!

Messi: So much has been said since that incident which saw Del Horno sent off. His return at the Nou Camp was cut short by a hamstring injury, as he limped off in tears. That will be at the back of his mind as he steps onto the Stamford Bridge pitch – though that is not what Barcelona would choose to call it.

Terry: Chelsea's heart and soul, in every sense of the word, will once again have to rally the entire team around him, particularly with the security of Petr Cech missing behind him. So much will depend on captain courageous.

Gudjohnsen: It is almost ironic that his retturn is labelled in some quarters as a reunion (imagine Figo's reunion with the Nou Camp, or Luis Enrique's at the Bernabeu) and you will know what I mean. The iceland international should start, though it remains to be seen which way that will work out for Rijkaard.

Hidalgo: The 30-tear-old Portuguese keeper was snapped up from Porto over the summer, where Mourinho had been impressed by his credentials during his spell there. He will now be thrown into the deep end, on a stage where every single error can be treated as almost criminal. Cech's shoes will be difficult to fill, and a trial by fire awaits!

PREDICTION

Expressing themselves against each other hasn't been a problem so far, and is unlikely to be come Wednesday. A pulsating game on the cards, which could be decided by Ronaldinho magic, a fabulous Terry header, some inspiration from Deco, or a Lampard scorcher. Take your pick!

Chelsea 2-2 Barcelona


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arivanjj
should be cracking game, i don't care who wins as long as ..chenko doesn't score smile.gif
Portman
A lot of injuries, a bad referee and an unfair result. This is my prediction for tonight's big match. cool.gif
misha
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 18 2006, 02:29 PM)
A lot of injuries, a bad referee and an unfair result.
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Sounds good to me tongue.gif
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 18 2006, 03:29 PM)
A lot of injuries, a bad referee and an unfair result. This is my prediction for tonight's big match.  cool.gif
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So ... Chelski will win !!? rolleyes.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 18 2006, 12:59 PM)
So ... Chelski will win !!?  rolleyes.gif
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I want Barcelona to lose the next 2 matches. At least not winning those.

As long as that club keep losing points I'm happy. I hate Catalonia, and I hate that club.
LaPalma
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 18 2006, 03:22 PM)
I want Barcelona to lose the next 2 matches. At least not winning those.

As long as that club keep losing points I'm happy. I hate Catalonia, and I hate that club.
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Agreed. I don't really like Chelski at all, but Barca ist just AHHHH. All their supporters are so unbelievable arrogant these days, just because they won that stupid CL final last year...So I hope Chelski will win, Sheva won't score anyway...
X-Offender
I'm for Chelsea aswell tonight. It should be a good match, hoping for some goals too.
han2503
I'm for a draw. Can't stand either team. puke.gif
misha
Hope Chelski will win while Sheva scoring a couple
Jack Sparrow
Hope ES scores a hat-trick..after the last match he played I'm seeing a lot of Gila in him biggrin.gif

But I want the match to be drawn, or for a narrow Chelsea win, should make the second leg all the more intersting.

My prediction is for a 2-1 or a 1-0 scoreline.
dst
can i predict a red card for chelski !!?? rolleyes.gif
Portman
For us it's good a Chelsea win. Barcelona is the #2 on the UEFA ranking...

Big miss by Drogba and then Sheva asking for penalty...
Portman
Inter already winning 2-0 against Spartak
Jack Sparrow
whoa...inter??!!!
Jack Sparrow
Chelski-Barca 0-0 HT

smile.gif ES has lost a couple of tough chances so far.

@dst: No cards for Chelsea yet tongue.gif
Portman
DROGBA 1-0! GET IN!
Portman
BIG MISS BY THE ES!!! Alone against Valdes... over the bar. rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
Bad miss indeed. Barca bring on Iniesta. About 50 minutes too late imo.
KillerMax
FT Chelsea 1-0 Barca


Boulahrouz killed Ronaldinho today.... He is indeed the next Stam!! devil.gif
Portman
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 18 2006, 08:40 PM)
FT Chelsea 1-0 Barca
Boulahrouz killed Ronaldinho today.... He is indeed the next Stam!! devil.gif
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R10 don't give a damn about the group stage matches.

Barcelona misses Etoo a lot against this big teams.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 18 2006, 02:42 PM)
R10 don't give a damn about the group stage matches.

Barcelona misses Etoo a lot against this big teams.
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One more reason I don't want him to join us...
Portman
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 18 2006, 08:46 PM)
One more reason I don't want him to join us...
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At least he runs... not as some fat *** turtle on our midfield.
misha
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 18 2006, 10:42 PM)
R10 don't give a damn about the group stage matches.
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I think he wanted and a lot but he couldn't do anything tonight. Boulahrouz played great and help was coming on time.
han2503
Just came back from watching the Chelsea - Barca match, and I gotta say, Barca look pethetic out there, misplaced passes and contantly trying to give long balls to messi or Goucho (who by the way had a terrible match)

Chelsea where just closing everything down, everytime Barca got the ball at their feet they where immediately sarrounded by 3 or 4 players.

And once they got the goal, the just shut up shop and played on the counter.

And too bad Sheva isn't a goalkeeper, otherwise he would be praised for all the cleansheets he's racking up. Waisted 2 practically already given chances.
Jack Sparrow
ES..huge flop, esp in the second half...a poor first touch???!!! since when??!!!
KillerMax
Seriously... I'm starting to wonder if he is playing like this on purpose... But no... It's very clear that he has lost his confidence completely... He is pretty much Chealsea's weak link... everytime they pass the ball to him, he loses out... Pretty much like Oliveira... Except Oliveira is starting to improve game by game... And ES is going straight downhill... I just wanna see Abramovic's face... biggrin.gif
misha
Maybe he is not scoring but he is moving very well and doing a lot of work that not necessary visible. Without him Drogba wouldn't have scored that much for sure. BTW his team are in first team in both competitions and his goals will come. It's unavoidable!!
dst
Just watched the game ... very very good second half !! smile.gif
Chelski looked incredible out there ... but since when did the two change roles ?? Barca playing with long balls and Chelski on the ground !!?? unsure.gif They played really good football, beautiful to watch !! And their defence was rock solid !! ES was pathetic, he's two months there and he's playing like this ?? "Need time to settle in" my @ss ! And Drogba's goal ... stunning !!

Barca was pathetic too; best chance in the second half was a Messi (1.68cm) header (!!) rolleyes.gif Nothing to talk there for ... Ronaldinho was probably the worst player of the night but it has nothing to do with Boulahrouz; he's 10 levels above him and he just did not play ... I don't care why, but he looked "full" ... and come to think he scored THAT goal two yeas ago !! Messi was trying, Deco was bad too ... Valdes saved their @ss !!

Could have easily been a 2 or 3 - 0 !!! He-he ! smile.gif Nice !!
dst
Oh and Crouch convinced me; he's a good footballer after all !!
misha
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 19 2006, 01:37 AM)
he's two months there and he's playing like this ?? "Need time to settle in" my @ss !
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Arguably, it would be more of a surprise if Shevchenko didn't struggle initially. Most of the greatest foreign players have: Dennis Bergkamp did not score until his eighth game for Arsenal, Thierry Henry until his ninth, during which time both were ridiculed by the tabloids, while Eric Cantona was a bit-part player at Leeds for almost a year before moving across the Pennines to find his natural stage. Indeed, the irony of Shevchenko's woes being exacerbated by the blistering form of Didier Drogba, who for two seasons was apparently not cut out for the Premiership, will not be lost on Jose Mourinho. If the good will out, the great - and Shevchenko is certainly that - should have nothing to worry about.
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