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Portman
Barcelona fans must be really pissed off. Specially because Chelsea drew at their home WITH the "Real Madrid kit". (all white) biggrin.gif
dst
Chelski are playing amazing football (in the CL) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I said they'd win it this time but it was only a hunch; this is absolutely hardcore football !!
Lampard's goal was the best of the decade !! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Nov 1 2006, 12:50 AM)
Oh and Bremen will kill Barca in the next game devil.gif
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Bremen are playing with Chelski in Germany ... I hope Mourinho fields Shevchenko so that Barcelona will get eliminated !!

QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 1 2006, 01:06 AM)
Barcelona fans must be really pissed off. Specially because Chelsea drew at their home WITH the "Real Madrid kit". (all white)  biggrin.gif
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misha
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 02:27 AM)
Bremen are playing with Chelski in Germany ... I hope Mourinho fields Shevchenko so that Barcelona will get eliminated !!
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Without Sheva Drogba was playing like he played in the last two years. Except the goal he done nothing. He need Sheva there to do his movement and open up spaces for him.
dst
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 1 2006, 02:45 AM)
Without Sheva Drogba was playing like he played in the last two years. Except the goal he done nothing. He need Sheva there to do his movement and open up spaces for him.
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I was only joking but since you feel like it I will bug you some more !! biggrin.gif

with Sheva, Chelski scored once in Stamford Bridge while without him, they scored twice in Camp Nou !!
misha
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 02:57 AM)
with Sheva, Chelski scored once in Stamford Bridge while without him, they scored twice in Camp Nou !!
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so what?
Warchant
i think he's trying to say that sheva has done nothing for chelsea's success
dst
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 1 2006, 02:45 AM)
Without Sheva Drogba was playing like he played in the last two years. Except the goal he done nothing. He need Sheva there to do his movement and open up spaces for him.
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So what ? He scored a goal with or without him !!

QUOTE (Warchant @ Nov 1 2006, 03:41 AM)
i think he's trying to say that sheva has done nothing for chelsea's success
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that and the fact that they scored more without him ... and away !! rolleyes.gif



(waiting for mishale to come firing biggrin.gif )
Portman
Other CL results:

Liverpool 3 - 0 Bordeaux (This guys are out only for this Cup-Matches... they hate "Leagues". Def')
Bayern 0 -0 Sporting (Bayern without half of the first 11. Both could have scorer. Sporting hit the bar twice)
Levski 0 - 3 Bremen (Go Bremen Go!)
Roma 1-1 Olympiakos (Totti missed a penalty)
Shaktar 2-2 Valencia (Valencia played like sh1t)
Spartak 0-1 Inter (A fair result)
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 1 2006, 03:52 AM)
(Totti missed a penalty)
(Valencia played like sh1t)
(A fair result)
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Totti scored a beautiful goal !!
Shaktar are building a very good team ohmy.gif
Indeed.
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 02:57 AM)
Totti scored a beautiful goal !!
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Beautiful? Beautiful was the Fat Lampard one. biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 1 2006, 04:00 AM)
Beautiful? Beautiful was the Fat Lampard one.  biggrin.gif
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No .. I would describe Lampard's (why Fat??) goal as fuc king awesome !! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 03:02 AM)
No .. I would describe Lampard's (why Fat??) goal as fuc king awesome !!  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif
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Why fat?

OK, I'm not even going to answer that. cool.gif

It's like the one "why are you always bashing Kaladze?". Pretty obvious, isn't it? rolleyes.gif
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 1 2006, 04:05 AM)
It's like the one "why are you always bashing Kaladze?". Pretty obvious, isn't it? rolleyes.gif
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But Kaladze is cr@p ... Lampard ain't fat !!
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 03:09 AM)
But Kaladze is cr@p ... Lampard ain't fat !!
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rolleyes.gif ... wink.gif
dst
LOL !!


... sh1t this is f@cking hilarious !! ... laugh.gif
misha
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 03:47 AM)
So what ? He scored a goal with or without him !!
that and the fact that they scored more without him ... and away !!  rolleyes.gif
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His goal was accidental. He played the other 90 minutes like sh!t.

It doesn't matter how many goals they scored today (Lamapard's goal is one of the 1000). They midfield is still great but atack lock mucj different.
Sure Drogba can score but without Sheva making his movement and clearing spaces for him he would never scored as much this year.
And without Sheva their dimond doesn't work.They switched to their old tactic in the second half.

I need someone else to help defend Sheva cuz it's like full time job biggrin.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (mishale @ Oct 31 2006, 08:38 PM)
His goal was accidental. He played the other 90 minutes like sh!t.

It doesn't matter how many goals they scored today (Lamapard's goal is one of the 1000). They midfield is still great but atack lock mucj different.
Sure Drogba can score but without Sheva making his movement and clearing spaces for him he would never scored as much this year.
And without Sheva their dimond doesn't work.They switched to their old tactic in the second half.

I need someone else to help defend Sheva cuz it's like full time job  biggrin.gif
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Well, in Sheva's defence, Robben was garbage today....
han2503
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 1 2006, 03:32 AM)
Well, in Sheva's defence, Robben was garbage today....
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laugh.gif I don't think that qualifies as defending Sheva laugh.gif

I only watched the Chelsea Barca game, except for the last 10 minutes. The first half was tidious, everyone diving and faining injuries, it was starting to get on my nerves.

Deco's goal was great, Lampard's ohmy.gif what a goal that was, at first I didn't even notice that it went in until I saw the ball in the net, I really though it went wide.

Gudjhonsen's goal was nothing special, but R10's assist was amazing, almost reminded me of how he tricked Nesta (or Kaladze?) to lob that ball to Guily, because of the way he tricked Boularouz (spelling?)

I missed Drogba's goal but from what I hear it was nothing special.

@dst

I don't think Chelsea where playing that much good football in this game, I liked Barca's game better, it was reminiscent of last season. The match at the bridge was a fantastic one by them but this one was nothing special on their part, they reverted back to their old ways.

Special mention of a cringe worthy moment

When Marquez stepped on Essiens B@lls
dst
@mishale: I just threw some facts ... here's another one: since Chelski changed tactics in the second half it seems that they're more versatile without him !! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 1 2006, 05:32 AM)
Well, in Sheva's defence, Robben was garbage today....
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Robben missed some clear chances ... that's what Sheva's been doing in the past couple of months !! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 1 2006, 10:38 AM)
Gudjhonsen's goal was nothing special, but R10's assist was amazing, almost reminded me of how he tricked Nesta (or Kaladze?) to lob that ball to Guily, because of the way he tricked Boularouz (spelling?)

I don't think Chelsea where playing that much good football in this game, I liked Barca's game better, it was reminiscent of last season. The match at the bridge was a fantastic one by them but this one was nothing special on their part, they reverted back to their old ways.
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Ronaldinho tricked Rino back then ... Back then when he cared to play some football !! rolleyes.gif ... Would Gila have scored Gud's goal ??

Considering how they play away from home and especially at Camp Nou this was the match of the decade for them !! cool.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 10:49 AM)
Would Gila have scored Gud's goal ??
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He'll probably hit the bar. wink.gif
agenth
'HAHA hope Werder trash Chelsea, although I don't think that's possible.
Still, Werder has this year a good team
misha
@dst I'm gonna stop cuz you just trying to irritate me wacko.gif
BTW Bergkamp is gay happy.gif
dst
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 1 2006, 02:44 PM)
@dst  I'm gonna stop cuz you just trying to irritate me wacko.gif
BTW Bergkamp is gay  happy.gif
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me !!? innocent.gif

Hey Bergkamp is not ... f@ck. OK ... let's stop ... sleep.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (mchanna @ Nov 1 2006, 01:08 PM)
'HAHA hope Werder trash Chelsea, although I don't think that's possible.
Still, Werder has this year a good team
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They have, with a defender like Nesta and a good GK, their squad would be awesome. I still have some hope that they kick stupid Barca out...

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BTW Bergkamp is gay happy.gif

I've heard that too cool.gif
dst
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Nov 1 2006, 05:18 PM)
I've heard that too cool.gif
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Whaaaaaaaaaaattt!!?? mad.gif

You can't say anything bad about his game and your'e aiming at a personal level ... dry.gif
Jack Sparrow
laugh.gif You guys are just confusing Bergkamp with dst.
LaPalma
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 1 2006, 05:19 PM)
You can't say anything bad about his game and your'e aiming at a personal level ... dry.gif
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That's not true tongue.gif laugh.gif
dst
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 1 2006, 06:42 PM)
laugh.gif You guys are just confusing Bergkamp with dst.
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I wish I was Bergkamp ... and no I'm not gay either (dissapointed !!? rolleyes.gif )

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Nov 1 2006, 06:49 PM)
That's not true tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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Oh yes it is ..
misha
Lyon 1 - 0 Dynamo Kyiv sad.gif

Real Madrid 1 - 0 Steaua Bucuresti

Benfica 3 - 0 Celtic

FC Copenhagen 1 - 0 Manchester U. ohmy.gif

Arsenal 0 - 0 CSKA Moscow

Hamburger SV 1 - 3 FC Porto

AEK Athens 1 - 0 Lille
Portman
Manscum. They fcked a big combo on bwin. mad.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 1 2006, 10:56 PM)
Arsenal 0 - 0 CSKA Moscow
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That was just incredible. Fabregas and Rosicky, how in the world can you miss those goals? And did anyone watch Vagner Love's fabolous dribbling (to Gallas I think)? Sad he didn't score there, it would have been probably the best goal of the night after Ricky's, of course.
misha
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 2 2006, 12:37 AM)
That was just incredible. Fabregas and Rosicky, how in the world can you miss those goals? And did anyone watch Vagner Love's fabolous dribbling (to Gallas I think)? Sad he didn't score there, it would have been probably the best goal of the night after Ricky's, of course.
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It was on Gallas. He really humiliate him there. Arsenal played so good but amazingly wasteful.

The best goal was the L. Gonzalez shoot in Porto - Hamburg game.
Portman
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 1 2006, 11:58 PM)
The best goal was the L. Gonzalez shoot in Porto - Hamburg game.
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Yup. Stunning one.

Lucho is a great player. A great center-midfielder. He'll be on a European giant soon I believe.
dst
Lyon 1 - 0 Dynamo Kyiv - 5-0 would be a better picture of the game ... Sad for Dynamo, they've had some history in the competition and now not even a single point.

Real Madrid 1 - 0 Steaua Bucuresti - Boring Boring Madrid ... really sad own goal !!

Benfica 3 - 0 Celtic - Haven't watched it yet

FC Copenhagen 1 - 0 Manchester U. - Once chance, one goal ... so fake !!

Arsenal 0 - 0 CSKA Moscow Simply unbelievable !! What the f@ck happens in the world when Gila scores ?? rolleyes.gif Gallas owned by Luuuvvv !! laugh.gif

Hamburger SV 1 - 3 FC Porto - Lucho Gonzalez with a lightning bolt !! Best of the night and second best of the week after Fat (?) Lampard's !!

AEK Athens 1 - 0 Lille --> deserved, nice goal !
LaPalma
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 2 2006, 12:39 AM)
after Fat (?) Lampard's !!
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Yes...don't you know that his nickname is "Fat Frank", well at least is was, he isn't that fat today laugh.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 2 2006, 12:39 AM)
Lyon 1 - 0 Dynamo Kyiv  - 5-0 would be a better picture of the game ... Sad for Dynamo, they've had some history in the competition and now not even a single point.

Real Madrid 1 - 0 Steaua Bucuresti - Boring Boring Madrid ... really sad own goal !!

Benfica 3 - 0 Celtic - Haven't watched it yet

FC Copenhagen 1 - 0 Manchester U. - Once chance, one goal ... so fake !!

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Madrid missed a lot of chances. Even Ruud missed a penalty.

Benfica owned Celtic. It was 3-0 but 4 or 5-0 would be a fair result.
agenth
Madrid. what can I say.
Lucky pigs (LOL)
The own goal by Bukarest, how pathetic is this.
Reminds me a bit of own goal by Neville against Croatia for English NT.
Portman
Robinho was impressive tonight, playing as a left-wing/midfielder. I think Capello found "his place".
dst
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Nov 2 2006, 02:09 AM)
Yes...don't you know that his nickname is "Fat Frank", well at least is was, he isn't that fat today laugh.gif
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Nah ... I missed that part ... unsure.gif

QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 2 2006, 02:11 AM)
Madrid missed a lot of chances. Even Ruud missed a penalty.
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I'm not saying they didn't deserve it but they played mediocre whatsoever !! They should have known not to let a Dutchman take the penalty (... sad.gif ...). Helguera should simulate what it is like being in the opponent's half: You don't kick the ball away !! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway ... Robinho was good indeed but he hasn't evolved much in European (actual) football is; was Joga Bonito senseless, he should watch Kaka' more often ... cool.gif
dst
And here comes the Nelson encomium: king.gif

Oh my Oh my !! ohmy.gif

What a player. Attacking wise he's amazing: He knows when to come up (this is very very important) and knows perfectly well how to move (on and off the ball) when he does so (...). Defensively (even though he wasn't actually tested last night) he was good but there is where his fault lies, as he's very slow to come back. He's not slow in speed ofcourse he does it intentionally ... unsure.gif But this is the least important thing, bring him here and he'll learn from the experts !! wub.gif wub.gif

Comparing him to Alves ... I'd say Alves is better right now cause it is defending that comes first when it comes to RBs and he is rock-solid !! I think Alves is the best RB in the world right now.

On the other hand Nélson Augusto Tomar Marcos is better in attack and his style is so f@cking awesome (and incomparable to any RB) that makes me wanna cry !! I wish we had him wub.gif

Rumours have been heard about Milan's interest before and that makes me exremely happy !! In fact it would be amazing if we got Luisao too: an impressive CB that can also jump and head the ball away in set-pieces ( rolleyes.gif )

Only, he will have to let go of number 22 obviously ... cool.gif
dst
@Portugal: Katsouranis was also very good last night (way better than I thought) ... or is it just me ?? unsure.gif Sure thing is that the Portuguese director had a thing for him !! kissing.gif

I heard he injured Anderson the other day ... and that Porto wanna sue him or something ... was it that serious ?? He's definitely not a dirty player !! unsure.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 2 2006, 10:48 AM)
On the other hand Nélson Augusto Tomar Marcos is better in attack and his style is so f@cking awesome (and incomparable to any RB) that makes me wanna cry !! I wish we had him wub.gif

Rumours have been heard about Milan's interest before and that makes me exremely happy !! In fact it would be amazing if we got Luisao too: an impressive CB that can also jump and head the ball away in set-pieces ( rolleyes.gif )

Only, he will have to let go of number 22 obviously ...  cool.gif
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Yup. Luisão "was rumored" for Real Madrid 2 or 3 times. Specially 1 year ago. What I think is impressive on him is his spirit. I mean, he can be brazillian but he's probably the true "captain" of Benfica. Well, he gave Benfica the last title (on a air-ball vs. Ricardo , the keeper from Sporting). He's the best CB in Portugal I believe. He's always called for the brazillian NT, he was at the World Cup and now with Dunga. And he's 25 so, not old for a CB.

Nelson is still young (23) and will improve a lot I believe. (He was the MOTM yesterday, btw)
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 2 2006, 10:55 AM)
@Portugal: Katsouranis was also very good last night (way better than I thought) ... or is it just me ??  unsure.gif  Sure thing is that the Portuguese director had a thing for him !!  kissing.gif

I heard he injured Anderson the other day ... and that Porto wanna sue him or something ... was it that serious ?? He's definitely not a dirty player !!  unsure.gif
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Katsouranis is a very good player. Everybody likes him down here. Benfica is playing in a 4-4-2 diamond like Milan and he's doing a great job. Impressive.

That Porto issue is b/s. It was nothing, only the Porto fans are angry about the fact that their little star (Anderson) will be out for 4 months. But Katsouranis did nothing. Everybody saw and nothing will happen to him, I'm sure.
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 2 2006, 12:05 PM)
He was the MOTM yesterday, btw
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wub.gif wub.gif

Portman
For a RB, assist 2 goals in a CL match... you must be good. cool.gif
arivanjj
QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 2 2006, 08:49 PM)
For a RB, assist 2 goals in a CL match... you must be good.  cool.gif
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yeah, i've never seen him play but 2 assists, that's something
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 2 2006, 12:49 PM)
For a RB, assist 2 goals in a CL match... you must be good.  cool.gif
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Man stop it ... you make me wanna come to da Luz !!
So is Santos fielding him more ?? Who else is playing at RB ??
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 2 2006, 11:58 AM)
Man stop it ... you make me wanna come to da Luz !!
So is Santos fielding him more ?? Who else is playing at RB ??
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Alcides play as RB too. But Alcides is not as quick and can't cross like that. In the other hand, he's taller than Nelson.

But Santos prefers Nelson. At least, at the moment.
dst
Oh thanks ...

Alcides is 21. He's Brazilian ... but is he any good ?? I mean is he near Nelson's level ?? I read he's owned by Chelsea !!?

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Alcides was kidnapped in Brazil, but was released after he convinced his kidnappers he was not a football player.

unsure.gif tongue.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 2 2006, 12:18 PM)
Oh thanks ...

Alcides is 21. He's Brazilian ... but is he any good ?? I mean is he near Nelson's level ?? I read he's owned by Chelsea !!?
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He's good. Not as GOOD as Nelson. He's more defensive. And yes, I think he's Chelsea's domain.

If you want quality players from Portugal, here's a quick list:
-Keepers: Helton (FC Porto)
-Defenders: Nelson (Benfica), Luisao (Benfica)
-Midfielders: Nani (Sporting), Moutinho (Sporting), Katsouranis wink.gif , Simão (Benfica) and Lucho (FC Porto).
-Fowards: None

The problem of Sporting is that they've a deal with ManUtd for their young players. (Since Cristiano Ronaldo...)

Simão is more like a winger. Not a pure midfielder.
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