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kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 4 2007, 01:06 AM)
I would put my money on Chelsea. This year it's more important for them to win the CL (even than the EPL) and they will be extra motivated (Mourinho too).
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As are Liverpool. Plus they have basically strolled through the CL this year, that includes two legs over Barca.
Portman
QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 4 2007, 02:06 AM)
I would put my money on Chelsea. This year it's more important for them to win the CL (even than the EPL) and they will be extra motivated (Mourinho too).
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If they play what they know... (eg: vs. Barcelona this year), they're the favourites.

Everybody knows what Mourinho wants: win the CL and say goodbye to England... leaving Chelsea and Abramovich.
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 4 2007, 04:12 AM)
As are Liverpool.
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Liverpoll won it recently. Chelsea never even been in the final.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 4 2007, 04:12 AM)
Plus they have basically strolled through the CL this year, that includes two legs over Barca.
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Every good thing comes to the end sometime smile.gif
misha
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 4 2007, 04:13 AM)
Everybody knows what Mourinho wants: win the CL and say goodbye to England... leaving Chelsea and Abramovich.
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Exactly. He wants to leave as a winner and keep up his promise (CL)
misha
Predictions for tonight:

Chelsea - Valencia 3:1
Roma - Man un 0:0
han2503
QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 4 2007, 06:17 PM)
Predictions for tonight:

Chelsea - Valencia 3:1
Roma - Man un 0:0
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You really think Chelsea will win with such a big margain against Valencia?

They had to play 90 minutes to put one past Watford.

If they play like that are currently playing atm then I can't see them winning it
misha
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 4 2007, 09:22 PM)
You really think Chelsea will win with such a big margain against Valencia?

They had to play 90 minutes to put one past Watford.

If they play like that are currently playing atm then I can't see them winning it
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There is a big difference when you are playing against Warford in another league game or when you are playing 1/4 CL game. The motivation of players are different. Everything is different.

Plus Valencia has several players missing
dst
Chelski vs Valencia 0-0
Roma vs United 1-0

Go Roma!!
Jack Sparrow
What the greek mathematician said. Always go with the numbers guy.
agenth
chelsea 1-1 valencia
roma 0-0 man utd

man utd prolly play 4-5-1 and not attacking :/
kaka_sheva
roma scored!!!
agenth
damn!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay it's 1-0 to roma,
taddei.

damn deflections!!

I change ym bet to 1-1 xDD
weeeow
FORZA ROMA!!!!!
kaka_sheva
hey, does anyone have a link to watch the chelsea-valencia game?
weeeow
go to http://www.myp2p.eu
han2503
That was a great goal Silva scored against Chelsea.

Hopefully things stay this way.

If we are to go out in this round then I would want nothing more then to see as many English sides go out as possible.

Especially Chelsea
Tennie
Stuck at work (again) and reading play by play of both games. THere's crowd trouble at the Olimpico? Anyone know what's going on?
agenth
duh!!!!!!


damn you drogba;

1-1
kaka_sheva
QUOTE (weeeow @ Apr 4 2007, 02:37 PM)

thanks! happy.gif

rooney just ended his gol-drought!!!! 1-1
Portman
Cristiano... always on the play. rolleyes.gif

Roma is not Champions League class.
Portman
GGGGGGGGGOOLLL ROMA! 2-1!

1min before there was a CLEAR penalty against United not called. Fckin' UEFA.
agenth
oh damn it's 2-1 for roma...
han2503
Anybody watching the Chelsea match atm?
Who's playing better?
Portman
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 4 2007, 09:13 PM)
Anybody watching the Chelsea match atm?
Who's playing better?
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Chelski.
han2503
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 4 2007, 08:20 PM)
Chelski.
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Thanks, I'm watching Roma Man U atm.

How's Sheva doing?
Portman
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 4 2007, 09:26 PM)
How's Sheva doing?
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Nothing special.

FT in Rome. Roma 2-1 United.
han2503
FT at the Bridge.

Chelsea are in a bad predicament atm, but ours is worse.

Let's hope the 2 English sides go out with us next week
misha
Valencia and Chelsea played very good game: fast and attacking. Valencia were lucky to concede only one goal in the second half. It will be very interesting next week. Valencia are favorites now.
han2503
QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 4 2007, 08:42 PM)
Valencia and Chelsea played very good game: fast and attacking. Valencia were lucky to concede only one goal in the second half. It will be very interesting next week. Valencia are favorites now.
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Valencia will do to Chelsea what they did to Inter. They will try to hold on for the away goals win.

Let's hope it works out for them once again biggrin.gif

Roma should have really done better against Man U while they where with 10 men for well over 45 minutes
misha
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 4 2007, 11:46 PM)
Let's hope it works out for them once again  biggrin.gif
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I want Chelsea to win. At least there will be someone (Sheva) who can I support if Milan won't make it sleep.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 4 2007, 11:51 PM)
I want Chelsea to win. At least there will be someone (Sheva) who can I support if Milan won't make it sleep.gif
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Valencia will pass them ... As Roma will pass Man U.

I watched both games (mostly Roma..) and I must say Roma controlled the play almost 80% was in their favour .. While Valencia, they palyed well, but gave too much away in the dying minutes; and why were they playing high balls with Villa huh.gif It's like lobbing the ball over Gattuso.
Portman
Roma always play better away. It won't be easy for United.
Rossoneri7
It wont be easy for United and it wont be easy for Chelsea ... As it wont be easy for Milan. So, with that said, some games u can speculate about the final result of the second leg; but in this case, I think we already know who will reach the semis ..

I would say:

Bayern - Roma

Liverpool - Valencia


I would like a Roma - Valencia final ... (Damn this hurts, I cant believe I am actually writting this !)
misha
I will stay optimistic (which isn't easy) :

Milan - Roma

Chelsea - Liverpool
agenth
http://www.dailymotion.com/Matthierry/video/2736596

shocking!
Portman
QUOTE (mchanna @ Apr 5 2007, 12:08 AM)

Stupidity of the fans. The English knew the police would do something like that... but they always love to try. rolleyes.gif
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 5 2007, 01:15 AM)
Stupidity of the fans. The English knew the police would do something like that... but they always love to try.  rolleyes.gif
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What are you talking about?? There's no violence in English football... and United's display (even before Scholes' red card) was not catenaccio, it was a tactical disarmament! rolleyes.gif

My ***!! mad.gif

They're as good as everyone... violence is everywhere, stupidity and corruption is everywhere and tendentiousness is football's little brother EVERYWHERE!

English, Anti-Italy fans should learn to like it and admit it so that we can all leave happily ever after!

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I hope Roma qualify. Great goal by Rooney, the whole Ronaldo run, ??'s cross and Rooney's control and shot was amazing! Vucinic's goals was also good, great poaching!

Roma is not a walk in the park as some may have thought and it proves that Serie A is not as week it's haters think it is...

Amazing goal by Silva!! ohmy.gif Sheva is surrounded by a bunch of _ssholes; he could have score a bunch of goals if they cared to provide him with good balls, he made some great off-the-ball movements... dry.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 4 2007, 09:58 PM)
What are you talking about?? There's no violence in English football... and United's display (even before Scholes' red card) was not catenaccio, it was a tactical disarmament!  rolleyes.gif

My ***!!  mad.gif

They're as good as everyone... violence is everywhere, stupidity and corruption is everywhere and tendentiousness is football's little brother EVERYWHERE!

English, Anti-Italy fans should learn to like it and admit it so that we can all leave happily ever after!
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ya i gotta agree with you there, and i say that the same thing to english and especially france fans (marseille fans in particular).
bigmacmtl
anyways who's to say catenaccio is boring and attacking football is the best? in the end football is football. i mean if you got into a fight with sumone and the other guy had a knife or had some advantage over you would you charge at him fists a swinging? well an idiot would or a crazy person. same with football, sometimes when ur at a disadvtagne it's smart6er to sit back and defend not that it's any easier to defend.
misha
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 5 2007, 05:58 AM)
Amazing goal by Silva!!  ohmy.gif Sheva is surrounded by a bunch of _ssholes; he could have score a bunch of goals if they cared to provide him with good balls, he made some great off-the-ball movements... dry.gif
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Yes, and Lampard is the worst. He always shoot too much from distance. But Sheva almost scored with the scissors kick in the end when defender saved from the line plus there was a clear penalty on him in the first half.
dst
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Apr 5 2007, 05:07 AM)
anyways who's to say catenaccio is boring and attacking football is the best? in the end football is football. i mean if you got into a fight with sumone and the other guy had a knife or had some advantage over you would you charge at him fists a swinging? well an idiot would or a crazy person. same with  football, sometimes when ur at a disadvtagne it's smart6er to sit back and defend not that it's any easier to defend.
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Football is football. I can name numerous games with lots of goals that I would never want to watch again and numerous 0-0 draws I would love to...

QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 5 2007, 05:21 AM)
Yes, and Lampard is the worst. He always shoot too much from distance. But Sheva almost scored with the scissors kick in the end when defender saved from the line plus there was a clear penalty on him in the first half.
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I think Canizares would also have saved that I think but yeah it would have been a great goal. And that was a penalty, the defender was not going for the ball...
arivanjj
Milan vs. Roma

Chelsea vs. PSV tongue.gif (Liverpool)
kurtsimonw
It's all they're talking about this morning on Sky Sports News (Trouble from Roma game).

When will we learn that whereever Man United go, trouble will follow. The deserved exactly what they got.

Apparently they're blaming it on Roma fans provoking United fans. Surely that doesn't give them the right to go and charge at the police? Whenever I've been to an away game where we're losing, the fans really give you a hard time, I've never once though of going to attack them.

Stupid Mancs rolleyes.gif
han2503
QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 4 2007, 08:51 PM)
I want Chelsea to win. At least there will be someone (Sheva) who can I support if Milan won't make it sleep.gif
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Well if we're out then I'm supporting Roma. I want the English sides to get knocked out. Sheva or no Sheva.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 4 2007, 08:56 PM)
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Valencia will pass them ... As Roma will pass Man U.

I watched both games (mostly Roma..) and I must say Roma controlled the play almost 80% was in their favour .. While Valencia, they palyed well, but gave too much away in the dying minutes; and why were they playing high balls with Villa huh.gif It's like lobbing the ball over Gattuso.
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Roma played with a numerical advantage for well over 50 minutes, so that is to be expected. But Roma really should have killed off the tie with the chances they got.

QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 5 2007, 03:21 AM)
Yes, and Lampard is the worst. He always shoot too much from distance. But Sheva almost scored with the scissors kick in the end when defender saved from the line plus there was a clear penalty on him in the first half.
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It's sad really to see him moving around and working so hard to create spaces for himself so he would be open for a good pass, but all they fo (especially Lampard) is shoot from over 30 meters.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 5 2007, 02:34 PM)
Well if we're out then I'm supporting Roma. I want the English sides to get knocked out. Sheva or no Sheva.
Roma played with a numerical advantage for well over 50 minutes, so that is to be expected. But Roma really should have killed off the tie with the chances they got.
It's sad really to see him moving around and working so hard to create spaces for himself so he would be open for a good pass, but all they fo (especially Lampard) is shoot from over 30 meters.
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It obviously works, Lampard is possibly the best goal-scoring midfielder in the world. He's got as many as Totti and Kaka put together this season, I believe.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 5 2007, 05:34 PM)
Roma played with a numerical advantage for well over 50 minutes, so that is to be expected. But Roma really should have killed off the tie with the chances they got.
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Man U aren't a small team to be affected by playing with 1 less than the other team ! United is an experienced side, and can deal with these situations ... So that shouldn't be an alibi
han2503
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 5 2007, 02:38 PM)
It obviously works, Lampard is possibly the best goal-scoring midfielder in the world. He's got as many as Totti and Kaka put together this season, I believe.
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But when there is a clear opportunity for a good pass to an open player who is in a better position to score then you, just past the god damn ball, not keep trying to shoot.

If there was no one open then yes, his shooting ability is a big advantage to have, but not when there is a clearly better option to it.

Do you get where I'm coming from with this? Gerrard is a good example of this, he has as good a shot as Lampard does, but when he clearly sees the pass as being the better option then he doesn't try the shot.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 5 2007, 03:10 PM)
Man U aren't a small team to be affected by playing with 1 less than the other team ! United is an experienced side, and can deal with these situations ... So that shouldn't be an alibi
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It won't matter when they're up against Watford and the likes but against Roma it does matter, especially when Roma have the midfield they do.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 5 2007, 06:35 PM)
It won't matter when they're up against Watford and the likes but against Roma it does matter, especially when Roma have the midfield they do.
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Not really .. They have a very good coach in SAF and I think his team held on well, even being down by one man, they still played and got the away goal. Sure in terms of an extra hand would be great, but on the playing field, it doesnt matter if u have 11 or 10 players, it doesn't make a huge difference.
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 5 2007, 03:49 PM)
Not really .. They have a very good coach in SAF and I think his team held on well, even being down by one man, they still played and got the away goal. Sure in terms of an extra hand would be great, but on the playing field, it doesnt matter if u have 11 or 10 players, it doesn't make a huge difference.
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I still think it does make a difference. Losing a man will make you change your whole game plan that's why the had to defend for 3/4ths of the match.

If they did have the same number of players on the pitch as Roma then we could be looking at a different result.

I know they're a good enough to handle the loss of a player without the need to panic but it does make a big difference imo.
Milan Are Brilliant
My god this is like a Scottish message board anti-English everywhere. Guess a lot is jealousy as they are now the big boys in terms of the leagues.

Anyway... Valencia I think will go through, Man United will turn it on at home and will surpass Roma in the end with relative ease, Liverpool are already through.

On another note it isn't just Man United fans rioting it's Tottenham now...
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