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kurtsimonw
I never said there can't be in the future, but it still doesn't mean what he said was right.

"Nazi symbols can be seen at any match in England" - It's a complete lie and we ought to seek compensation for them making untrue comments in order to harm our reputation. At least with our racism/violence claims in Ukraine, they can be backed up.
acid911
While I agree, I took his statement as "Nazi symbols could be seen at any match in England". unsure.gif However, if he meant it as they have been, yes, he's completely wrong and well totally out of touch.
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 30 2012, 09:37 AM) *
So where is Gourcuff now? Almost three years ago there were venomous posts towards Galliani and Co for not keeping our rising star.

More like fallen star innocent.gif

and Milan have moved on to acquire so many better players... rolleyes.gif

I'm sure Galliani and co. don't care about Gourcuff anymore... well not right now anyway, we just let a title slip through our fingers... but yeah there's that disallowed goal that justifies things...

let's focus on our new addition, Pato, with so few games played last season he's practically a brand new signing!

/ the previous rant was brought to you by... months of keeping a distance... and is not meant to be against you /
William405
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 30 2012, 09:37 AM) *
So where is Gourcuff now? Almost three years ago there were venomous posts towards Galliani and Co for not keeping our rising star.

More like fallen star innocent.gif


Who knows maybe he would have developed into one.I'd much rather kept then see the likes of Emmanuelson play in the attack midfield
Fillipo Simone
He isn't mentally right so I'm glad we parted way early.
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ May 30 2012, 10:41 AM) *
and Milan have moved on to acquire so many better players... rolleyes.gif

I'm sure Galliani and co. don't care about Gourcuff anymore... well not right now anyway, we just let a title slip through our fingers... but yeah there's that disallowed goal that justifies things...

let's focus on our new addition, Pato, with so few games played last season he's practically a brand new signing!

/ the previous rant was brought to you by... months of keeping a distance... and is not meant to be against you /

king.gif king.gif king.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ May 30 2012, 01:41 PM) *
and Milan have moved on to acquire so many better players... rolleyes.gif

I'm sure Galliani and co. don't care about Gourcuff anymore... well not right now anyway, we just let a title slip through our fingers... but yeah there's that disallowed goal that justifies things...

let's focus on our new addition, Pato, with so few games played last season he's practically a brand new signing!

/ the previous rant was brought to you by... months of keeping a distance... and is not meant to be against you /


Well, don't keep a distance then smile.gif

Im sure they don't care about him, just that I saw a rerun of the France friendly and he was awful. So I reminisced to those good ol days - 3 years back - ... And well, no more expectations from my side wink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 30 2012, 12:58 PM) *
Well, don't keep a distance then smile.gif

Im sure they don't care about him, just that I saw a rerun of the France friendly and he was awful. So I reminisced to those good ol days - 3 years back - ... And well, no more expectations from my side wink.gif

It doesn't matter in the end how he turned out.

The point always stands that this team rarely ever gives good youth a chance.

How many millions has Galliani wasted shifting players from one co-ownership deal to another every season. The last casualty is Merkel, who after all the back and fourth and all the big talk about wanting to be like Barca, we gave him off to Genoa.

Yes Gourcuff turned out to be complete cr@p in the end, and getting those 15m while we could turned into a blessing. But the main point still stands. We always gave these young players up without a care because we had Seedorf, Rino, Pirlo, Ambro, etc to fall back on. Now look where we are. Our only creative option is Montolivo and the DM position could be switched around between a former player known as Ambrosini, and a never should have been a player known as Muntari. Just lovely
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 30 2012, 02:15 PM) *
Now look where we are. Our only creative option is Montolivo and the DM position could be switched around between a former player known as Ambrosini, and a never should have been a player known as Muntari. Just lovely


Dude, we're still in May!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 30 2012, 03:15 PM) *
It doesn't matter in the end how he turned out.

The point always stands that this team rarely ever gives good youth a chance.

How many millions has Galliani wasted shifting players from one co-ownership deal to another every season. The last casualty is Merkel, who after all the back and fourth and all the big talk about wanting to be like Barca, we gave him off to Genoa.

Yes Gourcuff turned out to be complete cr@p in the end, and getting those 15m while we could turned into a blessing. But the main point still stands. We always gave these young players up without a care because we had Seedorf, Rino, Pirlo, Ambro, etc to fall back on. Now look where we are. Our only creative option is Montolivo and the DM position could be switched around between a former player known as Ambrosini, and a never should have been a player known as Muntari. Just lovely


Im sure Galliani set it up just to piss you off tongue.gif


Seriously though ... Give the benefit of the doubt when you are clueless to what is going on behind the doors of Via Turati.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (dst @ May 30 2012, 06:41 AM) *
and Milan have moved on to acquire so many better players... rolleyes.gif

I'm sure Galliani and co. don't care about Gourcuff anymore... well not right now anyway, we just let a title slip through our fingers... but yeah there's that disallowed goal that justifies things...

let's focus on our new addition, Pato, with so few games played last season he's practically a brand new signing!

/ the previous rant was brought to you by... months of keeping a distance... and is not meant to be against you /

biggrin.gif laugh.gif a very belated welcome back to you. wink.gif

Classic stuff!
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 30 2012, 01:22 PM) *
Im sure Galliani set it up just to piss you off tongue.gif


Seriously though ... Give the benefit of the doubt when you are clueless to what is going on behind the doors of Via Turati.

Clueless?

I think when something repeats itself over and over again, it is pretty obvious as to what is going in behind closed doors in Via Turati.

This management has not shown even the slightest fraction of even having a plan or strategy as to how they should move in the transfer window in years now. The fact that we lost 5 players all at once is indication enough of this
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 30 2012, 05:25 PM) *
Clueless?

I think when something repeats itself over and over again, it is pretty obvious as to what is going in behind closed doors in Via Turati.

This management has not shown even the slightest fraction of even having a plan or strategy as to how they should move in the transfer window in years now. The fact that we lost 5 players all at once is indication enough of this


Well yes, we all are clueless in that respect.

And no, I do not agree in your premise that the club's officials not having a strategy.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 30 2012, 04:25 PM) *
Clueless?

I think when something repeats itself over and over again, it is pretty obvious as to what is going in behind closed doors in Via Turati.

I don't think so. Why are you trying to rationalize football to a mathematical level? Is it a philosophical urge? tongue.gif

I don't get it, you're doing it over and over this year, first with Juventus, then with the scudetto, now with the transfers.
arivanjj
thiago silva scores for brazil against usa king.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_YUM466y0s



oh and ibra scored against iceland. nice goal smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyYiAeZnAaY



andddd pato scores the 4th for brazil biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4RF3YuGQaU
X-Offender
Thanks for the links. king.gif
kurtsimonw
Onyewu is by far the worst player I've ever seen play for Milan. He has the physical attributes, but he has no clue how to play football. I don't get how he even keeps playing for the US team.
Zed.D
Silva's goal reminded me of Zidane's 98WC final goal, the second one.

The goalkeeper didn't even see it.

han2503
QUOTE (arivanjj @ May 31 2012, 12:56 AM) *
thiago silva scores for brazil against usa king.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_YUM466y0s



oh and ibra scored against iceland. nice goal smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyYiAeZnAaY



andddd pato scores the 4th for brazil biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4RF3YuGQaU

How typical that Pato is removed from the Milan situation and manages to stay injury free long enough to score...

@ Filippo, what do my predictions have to do with the fact that this management have simply shown a lack of planning in the transfer market?

I'm not predicting anything here, I said that recent summer markets where it's the same BS every year shows us that there is in fact a lack of plan as to how they should tackle the market. The fact that Galliani has focred this team to keep relying on players who barely even qualify as such these days is indication enough, and now that we've lost all of them at once further proves this
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 30 2012, 05:45 PM) *
It doesn't matter in the end how he turned out.

The point always stands that this team rarely ever gives good youth a chance.

How many millions has Galliani wasted shifting players from one co-ownership deal to another every season. The last casualty is Merkel, who after all the back and fourth and all the big talk about wanting to be like Barca, we gave him off to Genoa.

Yes Gourcuff turned out to be complete cr@p in the end, and getting those 15m while we could turned into a blessing. But the main point still stands. We always gave these young players up without a care because we had Seedorf, Rino, Pirlo, Ambro, etc to fall back on. Now look where we are. Our only creative option is Montolivo and the DM position could be switched around between a former player known as Ambrosini, and a never should have been a player known as Muntari. Just lovely


Well I have a problem with this han.

I don't think we ever had 'good youth'. We had youth who would make the cut at a club like Genoa, but never a club like Milan. And guess, what we haven't for a long time.

We see Madrid, Arsenal, Man Utd, Barca and think of youth. But these clubs are spending 50 million a year on youth, where we are spending 14 or 15 million.

By all means, hike up that spending. But then that money comes out of something else. Most probably transfers. In other words, the Arsenal situation happens.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 31 2012, 08:56 AM) *
Well I have a problem with this han.

I don't think we ever had 'good youth'. We had youth who would make the cut at a club like Genoa, but never a club like Milan. And guess, what we haven't for a long time.

We see Madrid, Arsenal, Man Utd, Barca and think of youth. But these clubs are spending 50 million a year on youth, where we are spending 14 or 15 million.

By all means, hike up that spending. But then that money comes out of something else. Most probably transfers. In other words, the Arsenal situation happens.

I wasn't just talking about the young players coming out of our own youth team, but the young players Galliani likes to play marry-go-round with. 95% of our mercato news every summer is of young players we buy from all over the league and young players we send on co-owns around the league. And the summer after that the players we bought the previous summer are sent on co-owns, the ones on co-owns are brought back and sent to another team on co-owns. Rinse and repeat every summer.

And we lose money every time this is done, because we end up paying more than the players are worth when we want to buy their contrac back again from these small clubs. It's why the loan system has been practically abolished in Serie A. Because the smaller clubs are getting something out of these deals.

We're just not Barca and no matter how many young players we try to get, none of them will make the cut at the end of the day. I'd rather not spend the money to get 5 young players in and buy someone good for the first team, because we all know where those 5 players will most likely end up.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 31 2012, 12:07 PM) *
I wasn't just talking about the young players coming out of our own youth team, but the young players Galliani likes to play marry-go-round with. 95% of our mercato news every summer is of young players we buy from all over the league and young players we send on co-owns around the league. And the summer after that the players we bought the previous summer are sent on co-owns, the ones on co-owns are brought back and sent to another team on co-owns. Rinse and repeat every summer.

And we lose money every time this is done, because we end up paying more than the players are worth when we want to buy their contrac back again from these small clubs. It's why the loan system has been practically abolished in Serie A. Because the smaller clubs are getting something out of these deals.

We're just not Barca and no matter how many young players we try to get, none of them will make the cut at the end of the day. I'd rather not spend the money to get 5 young players in and buy someone good for the first team, because we all know where those 5 players will most likely end up.



We lost money? How much have we lost in the co-ownership deals last summer?
X-Offender
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 31 2012, 10:07 AM) *
Onyewu is by far the worst player I've ever seen play for Milan. He has the physical attributes, but he has no clue how to play football. I don't get how he even keeps playing for the US team.


Amen.
X-Offender
Thiago was captain last night, by the way. king.gif
acid911
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 31 2012, 06:08 PM) *
Thiago was captain last night, by the way.

Yip. sleepysmiley03.gif Well deserved and well earned. Plus, well played for the corner header goal.
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 31 2012, 10:16 AM) *
We lost money? How much have we lost in the co-ownership deals last summer?

I'll go through the club accounts to check that one...

The co-own deals are made because of the smaller clubs. They want something out of the deal. Do you really think they'd get into them if they were to lose money out of it? The money is always lost by the big club, while the small club earns something out of it while also getting a youngster on their roster for rotation. It's the way things work and why we rarely hear of any loan deals being made
Milan Are Brilliant
Lampard & Barry out of the tournament. Time to step up again Steven.
han2503
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ May 31 2012, 05:59 PM) *
Lampard & Barry out of the tournament. Time to step up again Steven.

Meh.. No Lamps but Gerrard is in?

The only English player I like is out for the Scouser. That shoots down any integrity the English team had in my eyes...
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 31 2012, 06:04 PM) *
Meh.. No Lamps but Gerrard is in?

The only English player I like is out for the Scouser. That shoots down any integrity the English team had in my eyes...

They both just got injured!
han2503
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ May 31 2012, 05:07 PM) *
They both just got injured!

Didn't you post that Lampard and Barry are injured?

Is Gerrard injured as well now?
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 31 2012, 06:58 PM) *
Didn't you post that Lampard and Barry are injured?

Is Gerrard injured as well now?

Just sounded like you thought Gerrard was just chosen above them. Jordan Henderson an England International, this is definitely by far the worst England squad I've seen.
han2503
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ May 31 2012, 07:00 PM) *
Just sounded like you thought Gerrard was just chosen above them. Jordan Henderson an England International, this is definitely by far the worst England squad I've seen.

Nope, just commenting on the fact that the only England player I like can't play and will be replaced by the Scouser...
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 31 2012, 10:18 AM) *
@ Filippo, what do my predictions have to do with the fact that this management have simply shown a lack of planning in the transfer market?

Lack of planning? I think it's very hard to plan without a proper budget. You can count the number of clubs on one hand who plan wisely their market strategy, invest normal sums and constantly stay top.

My point is, let's wait and then be depressive. It's much more reasonable if you ask me.
Rossoneri7
Just got a Ukraine shirt, in honor of Andry Shevchenko!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 31 2012, 05:03 PM) *
Just got a Ukraine shirt, in honor of Andry Shevchenko!

devil.gif devilsmiley.gif king.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 31 2012, 09:02 PM) *
Lack of planning? I think it's very hard to plan without a proper budget. You can count the number of clubs on one hand who plan wisely their market strategy, invest normal sums and constantly stay top.

My point is, let's wait and then be depressive. It's much more reasonable if you ask me.

A limited budget means that these things should be planned even more!! Anyway we'll see what happens...
William405
Seems like prandelli prefers Obganna over Abate,crazy!
han2503
QUOTE (William405 @ Jun 1 2012, 08:31 AM) *
Seems like prandelli prefers Obganna over Abate,crazy!

Is it confirmed that he'll start?

I'd have thought that the RB position would be between Abate and Maggio. Why play a CB there when you have 2 great RB choices?
William405
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 1 2012, 10:40 AM) *
Is it confirmed that he'll start?

I'd have thought that the RB position would be between Abate and Maggio. Why play a CB there when you have 2 great RB choices?

Owait,I always confuse stuff,he's actually replacing balzaretti whose been having physical problems.
han2503
QUOTE (William405 @ Jun 1 2012, 07:51 AM) *
Owait,I always confuse stuff,he's actually replacing balzaretti whose been having physical problems.

Hmm, the only LB available and he's having problems... If Prandelli gets desperate Chiellini could always play there...

Who's starting at RB? Or it isn't confirmed yet. I'd love to see Abate starting
William405
Maggio probably is confirmed.He could play with a 3man defence(Juve's 3man defence).Chiellini is still back from injury too.
kurtsimonw
3 man defense with Maggio playing could work really well.
William405
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 1 2012, 01:15 PM) *
3 man defense with Maggio playing could work really well.


Yeah,with a trident similar to Napoli maybe?wink.gif

Cassano - Balloteli
Montolivo


QUOTE
Italian national boss Cesare Prandelli has announced that his country are ready to withdraw from Euro 2012 should that be required.

The Italian game is again dealing with off the pitch problems after the match fixing betting probe rocked the squad’s preparations.

“If they tell us that it is in the best interest of football for Italy to not go to the European Championship then that won’t be a problem,” Prandelli told Rai Sport.

“It would not be a problem for me. There are things which I deem to be more important.

“I don’t like crusades, I like to face things head on and not take a particular stance without thinking of the consequences.

“I would like to just talk about football, but what is happening right now is forcing us to do otherwise.

“We continue to maintain that the players involved in the investigation will not be a part of the squad for the European Championship.”

Prandelli opted against selecting Zenit St Petersburg defender Domenico Criscito after police raided his room at Coverciano on Monday.

Criscito, who today criticised the decision to drop him from the party, has received official notification that he is under investigation.

Leonardo Bonucci, whose name appears in prosecutor documents, was included in the squad as he has not been given any official notice.

The squad was again rocked last night when rumours started to circulate that Gigi Buffon could be facing legal questions regarding a separate matter.

“Buffon is a strong guy, he has great personality,” Prandelli added. “Despite that, things which are happening now can weigh down even a person like him.”

Italy, who saw Tuesday’s friendly against Luxembourg scrapped because of an earthquake, will play Russia in Zurich this evening.
CrazyMilanFan
wtf is going on!!
kurtsimonw
sad.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 1 2012, 01:26 PM) *
wtf is going on!!


I think it is more related to the media, as they have been asking him about the players he cut due to their alleged involvement in this betting thing.

Italian football is suffering a lot lately, seems as though it just cant get a breather.
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 1 2012, 12:34 PM) *
I think it is more related to the media, as they have been asking him about the players he cut due to their alleged involvement in this betting thing.

Italian football is suffering a lot lately, seems as though it just cant get a breather.

More like they can't learn their lesson!!

How many times does this have to happen?? The only thing I'm grateful for right now is that no Milan player or anyone else within the club is being mentioned. (I'm praying that I don't jinx that)

The only satisfying aspect is that Juve are deaply embroiled in this mess once again. biggrin.gif

One thing is for sure. Italy cannot not play in the Euros, that team thrives in this sort of atmoshpere.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 1 2012, 02:06 PM) *
More like they can't learn their lesson!!

How many times does this have to happen?? The only thing I'm grateful for right now is that no Milan player or anyone else within the club is being mentioned. (I'm praying that I don't jinx that)

The only satisfying aspect is that Juve are deaply embroiled in this mess once again. biggrin.gif


I know a Juve supporter who is basically denying everything and admonishing his side of any wrongdoing. Apparently Conte is innocent and it was to do with a player when he managed at a previous club.
han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 1 2012, 01:42 PM) *
I know a Juve supporter who is basically denying everything and admonishing his side of any wrongdoing. Apparently Conte is innocent and it was to do with a player when he managed at a previous club.

laugh.gif

Have you been on any Juve forum lately?

They're adamant that their team is completely innocent of Calciopoli and the only reason they went down is because Milan and Inter sent them down through some sort of frame up!

How much more desperate can you get? The fact that they're about to put on a 3rd star on their shirt sickens me!
William405
Italians know about these stuff in football since forever,it's always been there...sadly.
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