agenth
Jan 30 2007, 07:02 PM
I am very disappointed. Just came home and then that!
I think we didn't give Oliveira a good chance.
First of all, it is/was HIS FIRST SERIE A season!!!!
Second, he has family problems, with his sister still being kidnapped, and apparantely no messages ...., this surely was the biggest blow since being in Italy, being helpless in that Situation, and just "doing the job, scoring goals for milan". Player's mentality are as much worth as skills, and other things. If players can't take pressure, they will play bad.
That's simple like 1+1=2.
We should have kept him, and who are we going to sign now?
Another 911-signing, but an older one?
Thank you very much.
HasanHasanly
Jan 30 2007, 07:03 PM
CODE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6271487.stm
Not a word about Oli
Portman
Jan 30 2007, 07:05 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 30 2007, 05:59 PM)
No way will this happen.
They will go the cheap root and get f@cking Caracciolo. I will bet my car on this.
Our attacking line will be R9 Gila Pippo Caracciolo by tomorrow.
You wait and see
From
Gila, Pippo, Oliveira and Borriello (June)
to this:
Ronaldo, Gila, Pippo and Caracciolo.
Geez. From bad to pathetic.

Now... now Moratti and the entire Italy are laughing at us (if it's really confirmed). Thank you Galliani.
milanistar
Jan 30 2007, 07:05 PM
QUOTE (mchanna @ Jan 30 2007, 06:02 PM)
I am very disappointed. Just came home and then that!
I think we didn't give Oliveira a good chance.
First of all, it is/was HIS FIRST SERIE A season!!!!
Second, he has family problems, with his sister still being kidnapped, and apparantely no messages ...., this surely was the biggest blow since being in Italy, being helpless in that Situation, and just "doing the job, scoring goals for milan". Player's mentality are as much worth as skills, and other things. If players can't take pressure, they will play bad.
That's simple like 1+1=2.We should have kept him, and who are we going to sign now?
Another 911-signing, but an older one?
Thank you very much.
Even that isn't always true
han2503
Jan 30 2007, 07:12 PM
QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 30 2007, 06:05 PM)
From
Gila, Pippo, Oliveira and Borriello (June)
to this:
Ronaldo, Gila, Pippo and Caracciolo.
Geez. From bad to pathetic.

Now... now Moratti and the entire Italy are laughing at us (if it's really confirmed). Thank you Galliani.
And I've got a silver lining for you. One of them is cup tied
fresh_prince7
Jan 30 2007, 07:16 PM
Real loan deal on cards for Oliviera
AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has confirmed Ricardo Oliviera may join Real Madrid on loan.
The former Betis forward is a target of the Spanish giants, despite failing to make much of an impact at the San Siro with two goals scored in 17 Serie A appearances.
"We have spoken about Oliveira," said Galliani. "But it didn't enter Ronaldo's deal.
"We will negotiate the option of loaning Oliveira to Madrid between tonight and tomorrow and we will see what happens.
"Should Oliveira join Madrid on loan then (Palermo striker) Andrea Caracciolo would be an alternative signing for us."
Meanwhile, Galliani is confident his club has got a good deal in signing Ronaldo from Madrid.
"We are extremely happy," said Galliani outside the Bernabeu Stadium.
"We believe we have signed a great player.
"At AC Milan, we have very important players and Ronaldo is a player of the highest level.
"Ronaldo seemed very happy, he could have chosen to remain at Madrid or move elsewhere, where he would have been better off economically, but he has chosen Milan, and we are delighted.
"This proves that he really wants to continue to play at the top level."
Ronaldo has penned a deal until June 2008 with the Rossoneri and will travel to Milan on Tuesday afternoon.
fresh_prince7
Jan 30 2007, 07:19 PM
Well the oli loan is not official yet.
We get to find out how stooopid our management is between now and the deadline.
Please tell me its caracciolo thats cup tied.

One of the power houses of europe with such a potential high class signing.
han2503
Jan 30 2007, 07:21 PM
I'm just gonna go off and bang my head against a wall
Portman
Jan 30 2007, 07:27 PM
This is unbelievable.
Galliani, please kick yourself out of the club.
Like I said some months ago - Silvio is old and sick. Some years ago, this situation was something like... unthinkable.
KillerMax
Jan 30 2007, 07:32 PM
Galliani is such a selfish b@stard.... this is ALL his fault!! He is the one that convinced Don Silvio to bring Ronaldo... It's an old dream of his...
misha
Jan 30 2007, 07:58 PM
Ronaldo begins Milan adventure
Ronaldo has finally completed his move to Milan and flew in this evening with a parting shot at Fabio Capello.
“After four and a half years with Real, an important challenge awaits me with the Milan jersey and I intend to win for this club,†commented Il Fenomeno, who penned a contract until June 30, 2008.
“I’ve always been happy in Madrid and got on with all the Coaches. All except one…†he added in a final swipe at the increasingly unpopular Capello.
“He didn’t want me and I understood that. I am a professional and love football, so I opted for another solution.â€
The tactician returned the favour with an equally vicious comment towards the departing hitman.
“I know that Ronaldo is Milan’s now. I wish him well so that he can do what he used to be able to – be a great player,†said the former Juventus boss.
Vice-President Adriano Galliani will stay on in Spain to finalise details of the deal, which are thought to include the loan of Ricardo Oliveira to Real.
As Ronaldo is Cup-tied, this would mean bringing in another striker who is eligible for the Champions League, so the alleged offer of Antonio Cassano would not be suitable at this time.
Confirmation that Oliveira is on the verge of leaving the Rossoneri comes with the news he has not been included in the squad for tomorrow’s Coppa Italia semi-final against Roma.
“We will pay £5m in two instalments for Ronaldo,†explained Galliani. “If Milan qualify for the Champions League in 2007-08, even via the preliminary round, then we would give another £330,000. Of course, we’d be happy to pay that much if it meant reaching Europe!â€
The transfer guru also took a moment to give a personal message to President Silvio Berlusconi.
“He maintained his promise, as we have replaced Jaap Stam with Massimo Oddo and Andriy Shevchenko with Ronaldo. Ronie had received other offers, but he was happy to choose Milan. It’s mission accomplished for us.â€
Football Italia
bigmacmtl
Jan 30 2007, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (mishale @ Jan 30 2007, 01:58 PM)
Ronaldo begins Milan adventure “He maintained his promise, as we have replaced Jaap Stam with Massimo Oddo and Andriy Shevchenko with Ronaldo. Ronie had received other offers, but he was happy to choose Milan. It’s mission accomplished for us.â€
Football Italia
This is Mother F%CKING insanity? mission accomplished by losing oli and bringing in a cup tied ronaldo? It just seems that our so called "leaders" in management destroy every glimmer of hope we milan fans have of winning something or doign well this season. First off you dont replace a guy like sheva with someone is who is equally old, yes i think the ronaldo is good but i certainly dont think he should be our man for years to come ( i see him more as a 2nd or 3rd option). and Oddo well i dont think galliani and company understand the difference betwen a guy like oddo and stam. stam was physical presence in the center, oddo is not that at all. In fact oddo has finally solved the solution on the right. a problem he has failed to address up until now. As far as i'm concerned we dont have a replacement for sheva, and a tall physical presence in def. we dont have anymore so i think they should think twice before they talk a bunch of crap. it justa pisses me off how these guys are always looking for a quick fix. ANd i think the fact that we are only willing for pay 5-6 million on our so called replacement for sheva is a disgrace and really says it all.
fresh_prince7
Jan 30 2007, 08:07 PM
The transfer guru also took a moment to give a personal message to President Silvio Berlusconi.
“He maintained his promise, as we have replaced Jaap Stam with Massimo Oddo and Andriy Shevchenko with Ronaldo. Ronie had received other offers, but he was happy to choose Milan. It’s mission accomplished for us.†Haha what a bloody joke, unless the mission was to sink milan. If so mission accomplished. I guess we'll wait and see the results of the so called 'transfer guru'.
I suppose r9 for sheva is equivalent, 1 week difference in age.
Who ever said they felt like breaking something had the right idea.

Will we get to see the glory days again..
George W. Bush for President! Can't be any bloody worse.
bigmacmtl
Jan 30 2007, 08:14 PM
"Ronaldo LuÃs Nazário de Lima, better known as Ronaldo, is finally a Milan player. The Brazilian is a true champion and brings with him an impressive list of honours and personal triumphs. Nicknamed, 'The Phenomenon', Ronaldo has won the World Cup twice - 1994 and 2000 - as well as playing the 1998 final. He then became all-time topscorer in the World Cup finals last summer when netted his 15th goal to overtake Gerd Muller." - ACMilan.com
It's official everyone at Milan is on crack and it shows in the transfers
bigmacmtl
Jan 30 2007, 08:20 PM
"GKS Belchatow have announced the sale of striker Radoslaw Matusiak to Palermo."
Ya palermo dont have amauri for the rest of the season so the only way i see them selling caracciolo is if the a get a replacement and i think this is a sign.
X-Offender
Jan 30 2007, 08:49 PM
Guys, come on. One thing is signing Ronaldo and one thing is loaning Oliveira. First, I agree with Galliani about the promise thing. Oddo is the ideal substitute of Stam, and when I mean substitute I mean as a RB. Stam only played as a RB last season, and that's why we were struggling so much in that section with only Cafu left this season. Also we now have as CB someone like Bonera who could very well be the future of our defense. So I say Bonera + Oddo = Stam and that's for sure. As for the Sheva replacement, we can't deny Ronaldo is a huge talent and a deadly goalscorer. I mean, 104 goals for Real since his arrival in 2002? That's a frigging lot, not to mention he was still (one of) their best goalscorer(s) last season aswell. We don't know yet if he'll be abble to fill that little space Shevchenko left, so we've just got to wait and see. And we also got Grimi and Storari, which we were expecting and were a sweet surprise, both of them. Now, why I'm so mad at the board is because they let Oliveira go. That's total insane, simply cause we don't have anybody to play the supporting striker role in the Champions League anymore. Gila+Pippo? Yeah, right. Not only that, but Oli was a very promising player, he was still young and if they only gave him the chance and supported him like they are doing now with Ronaldo, I'm pretty sure he would have showed his real strenghth in less than a month. The guy was back to his road of glory, he was starting to score again and was helping our attack a lot with his movements and pace. But now that he's gone, we don't have anybody, and also a proper substitute for him. Caracciolo is a joke, he's nowhere Milan quality. We'll have to play with the 4-3-2-1 formation now until we get kicked from the Champions League, which I predict it will be pretty soon.
han2503
Jan 30 2007, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 30 2007, 07:49 PM)
Guys, come on. One thing is signing Ronaldo and one thing is loaning Oliveira. First, I agree with Galliani about the promise thing. Oddo is the ideal substitute of Stam, and when I mean substitute I mean as a RB. Stam only played as a RB last season, and that's why we were struggling so much in that section with only Cafu left this season. Also we now have as CB someone like Bonera who could very well be the future of our defense. So I say Bonera + Oddo = Stam and that's for sure. As for the Sheva replacement, we can't deny Ronaldo is a huge talent and a deadly goalscorer. I mean, 104 goals for Real since his arrival in 2002? That's a frigging lot, not to mention he was still (one of) their best goalscorer(s) last season aswell. We don't know yet if he'll be abble to fill that little space Shevchenko left, so we've just got to wait and see. And we also got Grimi and Storari, which we were expecting and were a sweet surprise, both of them. Now, why I'm so mad at the board is because they let Oliveira go. That's total insane, simply cause we don't have anybody to play the supporting striker role in the Champions League anymore. Gila+Pippo? Yeah, right. Not only that, but Oli was a very promising player, he was still young and if they only gave him the chance and supported him like they are doing now with Ronaldo, I'm pretty sure he would have showed his real strenghth in less than a month. The guy was back to his road of glory, he was starting to score again and was helping our attack a lot with his movements and pace. But now that he's gone, we don't have anybody, and also a proper substitute for him. Caracciolo is a joke, he's nowhere Milan quality. We'll have to play with the 4-3-2-1 formation now until we get kicked from the Champions League, which I predict it will be pretty soon.

Great post.
And if I'm going to clench my teeth and side step the Oliveira issue I can't get past the fact that we would go for f@cking Caracciolo instead of ATLEAST Di Natale of Udinese. I'm not even going to ask for Suazo or Di Michele, but at least Di Natale not Caracciolo
Rossoneri7
Jan 30 2007, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 30 2007, 10:49 PM)
Guys, come on. One thing is signing Ronaldo and one thing is loaning Oliveira. First, I agree with Galliani about the promise thing. Oddo is the ideal substitute of Stam, and when I mean substitute I mean as a RB. Stam only played as a RB last season, and that's why we were struggling so much in that section with only Cafu left this season. Also we now have as CB someone like Bonera who could very well be the future of our defense. So I say Bonera + Oddo = Stam and that's for sure. As for the Sheva replacement, we can't deny Ronaldo is a huge talent and a deadly goalscorer. I mean, 104 goals for Real since his arrival in 2002? That's a frigging lot, not to mention he was still (one of) their best goalscorer(s) last season aswell. We don't know yet if he'll be abble to fill that little space Shevchenko left, so we've just got to wait and see. And we also got Grimi and Storari, which we were expecting and were a sweet surprise, both of them. Now, why I'm so mad at the board is because they let Oliveira go. That's total insane, simply cause we don't have anybody to play the supporting striker role in the Champions League anymore. Gila+Pippo? Yeah, right. Not only that, but Oli was a very promising player, he was still young and if they only gave him the chance and supported him like they are doing now with Ronaldo, I'm pretty sure he would have showed his real strenghth in less than a month. The guy was back to his road of glory, he was starting to score again and was helping our attack a lot with his movements and pace. But now that he's gone, we don't have anybody, and also a proper substitute for him. Caracciolo is a joke, he's nowhere Milan quality. We'll have to play with the 4-3-2-1 formation now until we get kicked from the Champions League, which I predict it will be pretty soon.

Totally right
dst
Jan 31 2007, 01:26 PM
QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 30 2007, 08:27 PM)
Like I said some months ago - Silvio is old and sick.
Some years ago, this situation was something like... unthinkable.
Like when we were left out pf the CL!???
These things have happened before. The problem is that by the time the sport gets more and more professional and Galliani looks more and more ridiculous. He was good in the 80's when he was just purring at the behest of Silvio but now that he needs to take up some responsibilities his unprofessionalism is blinding my eyes!
dst
Jan 31 2007, 01:39 PM
And about the deal... if Oliveira goes the other way... I will be utterly disappointed!!
Portman
Jan 31 2007, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 31 2007, 12:26 PM)
The problem is that by the time the sport gets more and more professional and Galliani looks more and more ridiculous.
Bingo.
berenike_10
Feb 1 2007, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 30 2007, 11:04 AM)
-----------------dida
--oddo---bonera---maldini---marek
-----------------pirlo
-------gattuso--------brocchi (gourcuff)
---------------seedorf
------------------------kaka'
------------gilardino
I think it's gone be something like that!
yes, bloody ancelotti will never place gourcuff and seedorf at the same time, so most likely is going to be with that worthless brocchi, that instead of playing soccer he should play rugby in scotland.
i like the line up of 4-3-2-1, but only , and only in gourcuff plays, if Carlo bets for brocchi or ambrosini, both of them are the same sh!t... and u know the result.
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