That would be stake. Not steak. You're hungry Ry4n. Eat a snickers.

hahaha

Propping the league up will require investments in the league. When Milan gets sold, it will be three top teams with foreign owners in only 3-4 years. Think lesser clubs with bigger ambitions will follow suit.

But to go back to the 90s Era for the league is a long shot.

Yeah i wish it were possible..

btw out of interest has anyone read this book , i'm reading it so far and its pretty interesting to say the least.

Money and Soccer: A Soccernomics Guide

http://www.amazon.com/Money-Soccer-Soccern...Z4AFFRDQBHNZBXJ

Give us your main takeaways.

We are pretty much f**cked.











I will let you know. I've only just started.

In which way?

Btw. anyone following the Milan-sale saga and our potential transfer objectives here? It's been awfully quite late..

I read today that Silvio wants reassurance from the Chinese that they will spend a specified amount of money each summer to keep the club competitive.

Source: Mediaset

I haven't been paying much attention, though. My passion and interest has completely worn off.

Oh come on! I know, it's very frustrating, but let's hope for the best. We all tend to overreact a bit. If it was to our standards, people would have worn off from supporting clubs like Napoli, Aston Villa, Tottenham etc. long time ago...

Suning have bought a majority share in Inter and it seems like they have decent spending power. Benega has also confirmed he's going there as well.

All this while Silvio keeps mouthing off at every opportunity he gets in front of a camera about how it's a difficult deal and how much of a sacrifice he's doing for the club, etc, etc. All while the Inter deal seemingly got done and dusted in the space of a month with no one whoring themselves to the media.

As for transfers we have Silvio still insisting that if the deal with the Chinese doesn't go through he will go ahead with the Italian-Milan plan (), bringing players up through the system () and keeping Brocchi on as coach for next season ()

So basically we're still in the same exact spot we were in a few month ago, praying like hell that this deal goes through or Silvio and Galliani will continue to run this club into the ground.

As for other rumours, Ibra is expected to announce he's going to United tomorrow, they're saying the Chinese want Emery and Monchi from Sevilla to takeover as coach and sporting director respectively should they be in charge

You keep on acting as if this is the first or second year we're suffering and things will turn back to normal soon. We've been dealing with this crap for four seasons now, not once in the last 30 years have things been so black and desperate for such a long time with no clear solution in sight. So please, do forgive me if I've had enough of this shtick and feel demoralized as a fan about it.

I don't act, I try to be patient. A clear solution is in our sight, also imminent. Milan is too big of a team to just sink into the dustbin of history. It is only logical that a force will pick us up and try to empower us again, sooner or later. Will it be now? Perhaps. Or when the terms are right? Perhaps. Or when Berlusconi dies? Maybe.

Whining around, seeing all blue or sharing depressive thought won't help anymore then my behavior. At least I try to be positive, because for God sake, it's the only thing left to do. What's the point of being pessimistic? So that I can shout "I told you so" every now and then and prove to a bunch of posters that I'm smart? Or to shield myself from bad developments? No thank you.

I was more than optimistic last summer, when Han was the only one who foresaw that things would stay the same. And so it happened. I lost my patience back then which was justified by another crappy season.

You're asking me to stay positive, but I'm pissed, man. I'm pissed at this club, the management, players, everyone involved. And it's totally legit for me to feel this way. It's true that my attitude won't change anything, but frankly speaking, I don't give a damn anymore. I stopped watching Milan games for the first time in my life. Because everything has a limit. So, until this club gets back on track, I will continue not to give a damn rather than be hopeful and then be even more pissed afterwards.

Past glory is no guarantee for future success. There are teams that at one time dominated Italian soccer for many years and now are only relevant in history books ("Il Grande Torino" and Pro-Vercelli* come to mind). Hate to say this, but if Berlu does not sell we risk ending up the same way. We have been on a downwards spiral for nearly a decade, and IMHO our current management is incapable of getting us out of it. "Italian Milan" is a great idea, but I do not see us being successful with that. Bottom line, I will be patient (stuck with it through our days in Serie B ), but I am rather frustrated and seriously concerned. We need a drastic change, and we need it ASAP !!!

(*) Incidentally, my grandmother was from Vercelli, and lived through their "glory days" (7 scudetti!). I believe my grand-uncle used to hang out with some of the players.

"Italian Milan" is a far cry from a great idea because Italian football truly lacks real talent at the moment.

I read on Mediaset that today Zapata and Vergara will extend their contracts.

Vergara??? Do you guys even remember him? And why the hell are we gonna extend his contract??? This management is so weird.

Apparently he's doing well with his Serie B side (can't even remember who they are) maybe they see a good opportunity to sell him to a mid-table side in Serie A in the future

Not even going to get into the Zapata thing

Worse than the Monto decision, this guy is clueless and an accident waiting to happen at all times

When will the deal be closed?

Good point, though I believe that the idea is to look for "new talent" rather than established players. But it does not matter, even if Italy was full of talent you need a capable management team for something like this to work.

Deadline has been pushed to end of the month

Now the Chinese shift interest to Giampaolo as coach if they take over. If this is a sign, it's a really bad one..

Sky, Di Marzio: Milan are interested in Shkodran Mustafi. Valencia want €15m for him.

Sky, Di Marzio: Milan have contacted Valencia to find an agreement for Shkodran Mustafi.

15m for Mustafi would be a steal. I hope this gets done as quickly as possible. Mustafi would be a perfect partner in defence for Romanogli.

Wouldn't that make it two young defenders? Also, worried after last night's performance if his price skyrockets. Hopefully Valencia still like us.

He is 24 years old but he already has plenty of experience, he also featured in last World Cup competition. I was very surprised to see that we was linked with us for 15m. I would easily pay 25-30m for him any day. He knows Serie A quite good from his 2 year spell with Sampdoria too.

Btw. apart from that goal, anyone noticed how awful he was yesterday?

I didn't see the game to be honest. So I wouldn't know. All the reports said he stepped in and for a fourth choice CB was very good in the game.

Looks like the Chinese deal is about to be closed.

I doubt it.

The Kaka Saga
Mister X,
Mr Bee,
Season-long Public statements about the coach's job being under-fire.

When have Milan ever shown that they can do anything major in a terse period of time?
I'd argue they exhaust every last televised second stretching-out or postponing major decisions.
Not since maybe the double salvo of Robinho + Ibra at the end of the transfer market has something been done rapidly.I can hardly imagine a world where Berlu doesn't pull-out at the eleventh hour, motivated by recent political losses, and decide to keep Milan, bring in Gianpaolo--no one's serious idea of a saviour--, invest 15-30M and call it a day.

I'm certain that this won't be done by this time next week.

And, holy lord would I love to be made a fool on this point.

We'll see. Transfers saga's have little to do this one though.

I am getting a bad feeling about this one. Not sure it will close, and if it does close it will probably take a long time. Really, really, really hope to be wrong ...

I think we've all learned our lesson by now when it comes to Silvio, So I'm not believing anything or getting my hopes up until everything is official and even then I'd be wary and wait until guys like Galliani first and foremost are out the door before I can truly get on board. We've all been burned one too many times now

Does this group own a Chinese team too? I saw a very interesting piece about how Inter will potentially use their owners Chinese based team as a way around FFP.

I think so. Guangzhou Evergrande FC IIRC

Oh? Could you share the link, or a small explanation on how?

I can't find the link, but I read that the Chinese club that their owner owns would pay the transfer fee then basically loan the player to Inter. So Inter do not have the cost of the player (or even wages, possibly) against their finances.

I read something about them wanting to get Vazquez in this manner, though he would only join Inter in January.

Looks like we got Lapadula. Dunno much, but we are talking about a 26 year-old forward coming out of Serie B. Does anyone understand the logic?

Edit: He is Italian, which may be an indication that Berlu believes the sale will not go through.

I don't mind this transfer - with Balotelli, Menez, Boateng, Adriano and possibly Bacca out, we are extremely short in the forwards department. Need to land prospects when they show up.

I read we are chasing Vasquez but costs are prohibitive. Meanwhile also rumours we shall hijack Ibra if the acquisition goes through.


Btw does Brexit mean that EPL will now have a harder time with transfers?

I don't know him, but 30 goals and 12 assists in 46 games is a really good record, even for the Serie B. I also looked a few clips on YouTube and the guy clearly knows how to score. Problem is, with no service and the shitty midfield we currently have, we're not gonna go far.



I read somewhere that transfers will cost much more.

Yes maybe in terms of work permits but this won't happen for another two years...

I honestly don't know what to think atm.

Most reports saying that the exclusivity deal will expire on July 7th and that's when the sale will be officially announced.

But the current rumours with regards to transfers clearly show that nothing has changed in terms of how we operate on the market. Galliani still clearly has all the power in terms of decision making. And we're only being linked to strikers and attacking mids which is the usual for Milan with Berlu and Galliani seemingly changing the forward line each season.

We're being linked to Pavoletti still (when the day comes when we're not trying to suck on Preziosi's b@lls is the day I'l finally believe we're rid of Galliani), Vazquez (I like him but I don't think he's worth as much as Palermo want for him), Saponara (haven't we learnt our lesson with this kid? I know we were quick to cast him aside but I just don't think he's cut out for the expectations at a big club) and Pjaca (maybe Fillipo can tell us a bit about him).

All this just reeks of Galliani and Berlu tbh. I just don't see anything fresh in terms of ideas. And honestly if we're going to have big to do owner with cash to spend, these wouldn't be the type of moves we'd be making.

Scouring the mid-table clubs in the league for half decent performing players from last season. Pavoletti barely looks half decent yet we're willing to hand Genoa big cash for him apparently. I'd rather off that 20m in salaries for Ibra over 2 years than a transfer fee for this sort of player

I've also read that we won't really see the spending power of the Chinese until January and this summer will be left to the current management with just a 50m transfer budget for Galliani to waste away. Which would mean another season down the drain.

I gues we'll know more once the coach is announce. If Brocchi is confirmed that just screams trouble in my mind

While the latest reports go clearly in favor of Milan striking a deal with the Chinese, I don't know what to say about the almost certain appointment of Montella as our coach.

If this is the start of a new era, I'm already disappointed.

Good news: (though this is not yet official) it sounds like 80% of Milan is sold

Not so good news: for the next three years, Berlu remains president and Galliani will be in charge of our transfer market (aaargh!!!). We will have a new "amministratore delegato" (Nicholas Gangikoff).

Source

IMHO, he is better than most of our recent choices, and I do like his style of play. In any case, AFAIAC what matters most right now is is re-building the team, and all that depends on (1) how much money the new owners will invest, (2) how badly Galliani will use it, and (3) how many more strikers Berlu will want him to get.

Edit: should add that right now I don't think we will get a "top tier" coach, at least not until there is evidence that we have serious management and decent funding.

IMO our recent choices were poor, so there's not much to compare Montella with other then amateurs and half-amateurs.

Hiring an ambitious coach is the first step that would show me things are turning to our advantage. With Montella we once again get a young and unproven coach without any real experience at big clubs. I don't get how our board can't understand that we need that kind of stability and experience right now.

Hate to say this, but we are no longer a "big club" these days (based on recent track record), and Montella did coach a club that in the last few years has been "bigger" than us. I think he is a decent coach and plays an attractive game.

Look at this differently. Realistically speaking, who do you think we can attract at the present time? We are one of the worse managed teams (and it looks like that's not gonna change for at least three years), we are sacking coaches more often than Zamparini, the change of ownership brings a great deal of uncertainty, we have been out of Europe for a while, (most of) our players are crap, Serie A is not what it used to be, etc., etc.

Rebuild first, then go for glory !

We're still big, never mind result. By big I mean organizational, staff, expectations, etc.

The problem is, I still think Pellegrini, Emery or even Louis van Gaal would consider coming to Milan. But I think we're not even trying to sign them.

Anyway, perhaps you're right. But then again coaches like Prandelli, hell even Zacceroni are free and I'd take them over someone like Montella in a heartbeat.

Well, considering that Silvio wanted to keep Brocchi, it's still a relief to bring someone in who I consider at the least decent. I like Montella and I like his style. Obviously he's not who I would be looking to if we really want to be making a huge stride forward next season but looking at the players we're considering signing, I really don't think that's the case. We'll see what happens but if Silvio and Galliani are still running the show for now I don't expect much to change, even if technically the club has been sold


I agreed about Montella, the thing that worries me the most right now is not that, it's the fact that Galliani is still going to be entrusted with the transfers.

Last summer he was given a big budget and he frankly wasted the majority of it. The man is clearly not fit for the job any longer. I do not understand why he is still going to be left to run the show in terms of transfers instead of bringing in a proper director of sport of handle it.

I understand why Silvio will stay on until the rest of the shares are sold. Why Galliani has to be part of the package is what I don't understand


Agreed.

I agree 100% with your concern.


My guess is that Galliani has a "golden parachute" in his contract, so it would be real expensive to sack him.

Maybe a decade ago you could say that. Montella took a bad team to a European regular. That's something we haven't had for a few years. This isn't 2003 anymore, Milan are a bigger club than Fiorentina, but this is essentially a sideways step at best for him. So the idea that a top coach would take the job when Chelsea, Man City, Bayern Munich roles were all available was nothing but a dream.