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post Jun 25 2016, 05:29 PM
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I honestly don't know what to think atm.

Most reports saying that the exclusivity deal will expire on July 7th and that's when the sale will be officially announced.

But the current rumours with regards to transfers clearly show that nothing has changed in terms of how we operate on the market. Galliani still clearly has all the power in terms of decision making. And we're only being linked to strikers and attacking mids which is the usual for Milan with Berlu and Galliani seemingly changing the forward line each season.

We're being linked to Pavoletti still (when the day comes when we're not trying to suck on Preziosi's b@lls is the day I'l finally believe we're rid of Galliani), Vazquez (I like him but I don't think he's worth as much as Palermo want for him), Saponara (haven't we learnt our lesson with this kid? I know we were quick to cast him aside but I just don't think he's cut out for the expectations at a big club) and Pjaca (maybe Fillipo can tell us a bit about him).

All this just reeks of Galliani and Berlu tbh. I just don't see anything fresh in terms of ideas. And honestly if we're going to have big to do owner with cash to spend, these wouldn't be the type of moves we'd be making.

Scouring the mid-table clubs in the league for half decent performing players from last season. Pavoletti barely looks half decent yet we're willing to hand Genoa big cash for him apparently. I'd rather off that 20m in salaries for Ibra over 2 years than a transfer fee for this sort of player

I've also read that we won't really see the spending power of the Chinese until January and this summer will be left to the current management with just a 50m transfer budget for Galliani to waste away. Which would mean another season down the drain.

I gues we'll know more once the coach is announce. If Brocchi is confirmed that just screams trouble in my mind
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post Jun 28 2016, 09:43 AM
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While the latest reports go clearly in favor of Milan striking a deal with the Chinese, I don't know what to say about the almost certain appointment of Montella as our coach.

If this is the start of a new era, I'm already disappointed.
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post Jun 28 2016, 02:37 PM
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Good news: (though this is not yet official) it sounds like 80% of Milan is sold

Not so good news: for the next three years, Berlu remains president and Galliani will be in charge of our transfer market (aaargh!!!). We will have a new "amministratore delegato" (Nicholas Gangikoff).

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post Jun 28 2016, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2016, 10:43 AM) *
While the latest reports go clearly in favor of Milan striking a deal with the Chinese, I don't know what to say about the almost certain appointment of Montella as our coach.

If this is the start of a new era, I'm already disappointed.

IMHO, he is better than most of our recent choices, and I do like his style of play. In any case, AFAIAC what matters most right now is is re-building the team, and all that depends on (1) how much money the new owners will invest, (2) how badly Galliani will use it, and (3) how many more strikers Berlu will want him to get.

Edit: should add that right now I don't think we will get a "top tier" coach, at least not until there is evidence that we have serious management and decent funding.

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post Jun 28 2016, 03:36 PM
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IMO our recent choices were poor, so there's not much to compare Montella with other then amateurs and half-amateurs.

Hiring an ambitious coach is the first step that would show me things are turning to our advantage. With Montella we once again get a young and unproven coach without any real experience at big clubs. I don't get how our board can't understand that we need that kind of stability and experience right now.
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post Jun 28 2016, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2016, 04:36 PM) *
IMO our recent choices were poor, so there's not much to compare Montella with other then amateurs and half-amateurs.

Hiring an ambitious coach is the first step that would show me things are turning to our advantage. With Montella we once again get a young and unproven coach without any real experience at big clubs. I don't get how our board can't understand that we need that kind of stability and experience right now.

Hate to say this, but we are no longer a "big club" these days (based on recent track record), and Montella did coach a club that in the last few years has been "bigger" than us. I think he is a decent coach and plays an attractive game.

Look at this differently. Realistically speaking, who do you think we can attract at the present time? We are one of the worse managed teams (and it looks like that's not gonna change for at least three years), we are sacking coaches more often than Zamparini, the change of ownership brings a great deal of uncertainty, we have been out of Europe for a while, (most of) our players are crap, Serie A is not what it used to be, etc., etc.

Rebuild first, then go for glory !

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post Jun 28 2016, 05:50 PM
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We're still big, never mind result. By big I mean organizational, staff, expectations, etc.

The problem is, I still think Pellegrini, Emery or even Louis van Gaal would consider coming to Milan. But I think we're not even trying to sign them.

Anyway, perhaps you're right. But then again coaches like Prandelli, hell even Zacceroni are free and I'd take them over someone like Montella in a heartbeat.
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post Jun 28 2016, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2016, 09:43 AM) *
While the latest reports go clearly in favor of Milan striking a deal with the Chinese, I don't know what to say about the almost certain appointment of Montella as our coach.

If this is the start of a new era, I'm already disappointed.

Well, considering that Silvio wanted to keep Brocchi, it's still a relief to bring someone in who I consider at the least decent. I like Montella and I like his style. Obviously he's not who I would be looking to if we really want to be making a huge stride forward next season but looking at the players we're considering signing, I really don't think that's the case. We'll see what happens but if Silvio and Galliani are still running the show for now I don't expect much to change, even if technically the club has been sold

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 28 2016, 02:42 PM) *
IMHO, he is better than most of our recent choices, and I do like his style of play. In any case, AFAIAC what matters most right now is is re-building the team, and all that depends on (1) how much money the new owners will invest, (2) how badly Galliani will use it, and (3) how many more strikers Berlu will want him to get.

Edit: should add that right now I don't think we will get a "top tier" coach, at least not until there is evidence that we have serious management and decent funding.

I agreed about Montella, the thing that worries me the most right now is not that, it's the fact that Galliani is still going to be entrusted with the transfers.

Last summer he was given a big budget and he frankly wasted the majority of it. The man is clearly not fit for the job any longer. I do not understand why he is still going to be left to run the show in terms of transfers instead of bringing in a proper director of sport of handle it.

I understand why Silvio will stay on until the rest of the shares are sold. Why Galliani has to be part of the package is what I don't understand

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2016, 03:36 PM) *
IMO our recent choices were poor, so there's not much to compare Montella with other then amateurs and half-amateurs.

Hiring an ambitious coach is the first step that would show me things are turning to our advantage. With Montella we once again get a young and unproven coach without any real experience at big clubs. I don't get how our board can't understand that we need that kind of stability and experience right now.

Agreed.
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post Jun 28 2016, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 28 2016, 06:55 PM) *
[...] the thing that worries me the most right now is [...] the fact that Galliani is still going to be entrusted with the transfers. Last summer he was given a big budget and he frankly wasted the majority of it. The man is clearly not fit for the job any longer.

I agree 100% with your concern.

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I do not understand why he is still going to be left to run the show in terms of transfers instead of bringing in a proper director of sport of handle it. I understand why Silvio will stay on until the rest of the shares are sold. Why Galliani has to be part of the package is what I don't understand.

My guess is that Galliani has a "golden parachute" in his contract, so it would be real expensive to sack him.
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post Jun 28 2016, 07:25 PM
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Maybe a decade ago you could say that. Montella took a bad team to a European regular. That's something we haven't had for a few years. This isn't 2003 anymore, Milan are a bigger club than Fiorentina, but this is essentially a sideways step at best for him. So the idea that a top coach would take the job when Chelsea, Man City, Bayern Munich roles were all available was nothing but a dream.
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post Jun 28 2016, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 28 2016, 08:25 PM) *
Maybe a decade ago you could say that. Montella took a bad team to a European regular. That's something we haven't had for a few years. This isn't 2003 anymore, Milan are a bigger club than Fiorentina, but this is essentially a sideways step at best for him. So the idea that a top coach would take the job when Chelsea, Man City, Bayern Munich roles were all available was nothing but a dream.

Yup, that is the point I was trying to make ...

BTW, EPL will be interesting this year with Mou, Guardiola, and Conte all leading top-tier teams.
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post Jun 28 2016, 09:43 PM
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100% Official: Milan appoint Montella....

http://www.football-italia.net/86505/offic...ppoint-montella
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post Jun 28 2016, 09:44 PM
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That was quick considering how slow Milan makes its decision
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post Jun 28 2016, 10:41 PM
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The situation could be worse, Montella isn't a bad coach. He had a real project going when he was at Fiorentina but the management pooped the bed. They didn't pay to keep Salah which he saw as a step back and the band broke up. At Samp, the team lost some pep when he got there. They lost Romagnoli, sold Eder, Regini left. The blame can't fall squarely on his shoulders.

The Chinese takeover brings hope though, something I feel like I have had none of this summer. Even if it's 3 years we finally have light at the end of the tunnel. Lapadula was a good buy as we will most surely lose Bacca. Maybe it's not the worst thing. We can get around 30 mil for him and that will hopefully be funneled into the team. This was the main problem with Berlu in the last few years. We were making the money by selling our stars and that money would go right towards covering the losses. Hopefully that isn't the case any longer. Getting 30 mil for an admittedly deadly finished will be mitigated by the re purposing of that money to other positions. Foundation is built from the back forward. Juve haven't had the most dangerous strikers in recent years yet their defense and midfield put them in the conversation with teams like Barca, Real, and Bayern.

Donna and Romag are a good start, hopefully some money goes to a new cb to play next to Romag and a midfielder or two. With Montella comes the possibility of Soriano which wouldn't be terrible. If I remember correctly Fiorentina employed wingers when Montella was there which could see us looking towards Pjanca who is at least a promising young player.

If the highlight reel is any indication Lapa looks to be strong in the air and more of a mobile player. He also has a knack for that final ball as well as the ability to find the net himself. Hopefully his Serie B form translates. All in all he is a good striker with the ability to be part of a committee. IMO could be a steal for 10 mil.
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post Jun 29 2016, 07:03 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm in the minority then. I still don't think we wasted the majority of the transfer money this season. There was really only Bertolacci and the jury is still out. What if he turns out good this season. It won't be the first time we've had such a case in football, when someone turned things around.

I'm on the fence with Montella. I think he is definitely an ambitious coach, and he has played football in the recent era so he should in 'theory' connect with the dressing room - but has not been known as a character. Will he put those dgaf players into line or will he crib and demand transfers as the solution to everything?

If we're having Montella, we need to get a couple of leaders in the dressing room. We know Montolivo is no captain, and Abate doesn't have the CV to pull it off.
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