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Fillipo Simone
Great news. Good riddance!
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 13 2014, 02:46 PM) *
Great news. Good riddance!

Seconded!
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 13 2014, 06:25 PM) *
Seconded!


Tripled!

So, han, how's life without Allegri treating you? biggrin.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 13 2014, 04:46 PM) *
Tripled!

So, han, how's life without Allegri treating you? biggrin.gif

Great, I feel as if I'm walking on air biggrin.gif
X-Offender
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CrazyMilanFan
there are reports about matri to viola on loan as well.
Fillipo Simone
Well, they really need a striker, so it's possible.
Jack Bauer
With so many teams interested, we need to try to sell him. I don't want to see him back. Ever.

Also, would be great to tease Fiorentina till the last second and then send him to some other team after the whole Ljajic saga in the summer.
Danny
Matri has gone on loan to Fio, just needs finalised in personal terms, and Seedorf has been unofficially confirmed as our new manager now till June 2016.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jan 14 2014, 02:03 AM) *
With so many teams interested, we need to try to sell him. I don't want to see him back. Ever.

Also, would be great to tease Fiorentina till the last second and then send him to some other team after the whole Ljajic saga in the summer.

The Ljajic saga? It isn't Fiorentina's fault that Milan didn't have money to spend, except for/until Allegri wanted Matri.
X-Offender
So, Matri to Fiorentina. Galliani contacted Lotito tonight for a Matri-Hernanes swap, but he declined (f*cker!).

Apparently Petagna will be returning from Sampdoria as well.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 14 2014, 02:39 AM) *
So, Matri to Fiorentina. Galliani contacted Lotito tonight for a Matri-Hernanes swap, but he declined (f*cker!).

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While we're at it let's see if Madrid want Muntari for Ronaldo and if Barca would accept Bonera for Messi.

Galliani is so insulting and dumb.
Fillipo Simone
Well, the offer isn't that dumb. Soon Hernanes will be a free agent.
William405
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 14 2014, 04:30 AM) *
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While we're at it let's see if Madrid want Muntari for Ronaldo and if Barca would accept Bonera for Messi.

Galliani is so insulting and dumb.


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han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 13 2014, 11:30 PM) *
Well, they really need a striker, so it's possible.

After the whole Ljajic thing I wouldn't give him to them if he was the last striker on earth! Especially not on loan which most likely means that we'll be paying part of his wage

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jan 14 2014, 12:03 AM) *
With so many teams interested, we need to try to sell him. I don't want to see him back. Ever.

Also, would be great to tease Fiorentina till the last second and then send him to some other team after the whole Ljajic saga in the summer.

Agreed

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 14 2014, 02:30 AM) *
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While we're at it let's see if Madrid want Muntari for Ronaldo and if Barca would accept Bonera for Messi.

Galliani is so insulting and dumb.

So true!
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 14 2014, 02:56 PM) *
After the whole Ljajic thing I wouldn't give him to them if he was the last striker on earth! Especially not on loan which most likely means that we'll be paying part of his wage


No, I'm pretty sure Fiorentina will pay the rest of his wage.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 14 2014, 02:20 PM) *
No, I'm pretty sure Fiorentina will pay the rest of his wage.

If that's the case then I'd be ok with the loan, but that still brings up the issue of what we'll do with him when he returns

Hopefully he can score a couple of goals and we'll be able to sell him without making a huge loss on the 12m we paid for him
Danny
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 14 2014, 01:30 AM) *
While we're at it let's see if Madrid want Muntari for Ronaldo and if Barca would accept Bonera for Messi.


Nonsense. I'd expect more than just Messi for Bonera wink.gif
Forza Milan!
Antonin's wife expressed her opinion about Allegri quite bluntly ("Allegri? Finalmente godo anch'io!!!"). Wonder how many other players (or ex-players) share her feelings.
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jan 14 2014, 10:03 PM) *
Antonin's wife expressed her opinion about Allegri quite bluntly ("Allegri? Finalmente godo anch'io!!!"). Wonder how many other players (or ex-players) share her feelings.

What did she say exactly?
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:23 PM) *
What did she say exactly?

(...via Google Translate):

Allegri? Finally, I enjoy myself!


...something along those lines.
CrazyMilanFan
matri officially gone.. i hope he performs good enough to be sold in Summer for a decent price.
X-Offender
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 15 2014, 08:41 PM) *
matri officially gone.. i hope he performs good enough to be sold in Summer for a decent price.


Fiorentina don't have a buy option. sad.gif
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 15 2014, 08:20 PM) *
Fiorentina don't have a buy option. sad.gif

i think the would want rossi and gomez to get fit unless matri performs to good..I just hope there are some other buyers are interested
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 15 2014, 07:20 PM) *
Fiorentina don't have a buy option. sad.gif

As long as he scores a good amount of goals that won't matter much, he'll be worth something more and clubs would be willing to pay at least 5-8m for him, thus not making his transfer an epic failure for us if we manage to recoup that amount from what we spent for him
Ry4n
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 16 2014, 03:01 AM) *
As long as he scores a good amount of goals that won't matter much, he'll be worth something more and clubs would be willing to pay at least 5-8m for him, thus not making his transfer an epic failure for us if we manage to recoup that amount from what we spent for him

Don't know many clubs in Italy that would pay that much for him , i wouldnt be surprised if he joined Roma or inter in the summer and he starts scoring for fun especially at roma.
Jack Bauer
We can forget about Jorginho, he's going to Napoli.

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AC Milan are considering swapping a portion of the ownership of Riccardo Saponara for Parma midfielder Marco Parolo.

The 28-year-old Italian midfielder has been in fine form this season, and Milan have been heavily linked with an approach.

Mediaset report that Milan are ready to offer 50 percent of Riccardo Saponara’s contract to reduce the cost of Parolo.

Milan bought 50 half of the 22-year-old’s playing rights in January 2013 from Empoli and kept him at the Serie B side, where he scored 13 goals in 40 games.

However, the young midfielder has struggled to earn consistent starts behind Riccardo Kaka and may continue to do so behind Keisuke Honda.
Fillipo Simone
I think it's almost official now: Saponara is a failed investment.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2014, 03:40 AM) *
I think it's almost official now: Saponara is a failed investment.



What? He has been here less than a year, was injured for most of that time, and barely gotten any chances to play. The kid deserves some playing time before he is completely written off.
han2503
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Jan 17 2014, 08:10 AM) *
What? He has been here less than a year, was injured for most of that time, and barely gotten any chances to play. The kid deserves some playing time before he is completely written off.

Agreed, from the little we've seen of him, it's obvious that he has the talent, just the circumstances have been very unlucky for him so far.

If we give up on Sapo then we might as well do the same with SES as they've both failed in trying to establish themselves due to injuries.

And let's face it our club has become a hotbed for making something that was minor into a chronic injury that spans over years let alone months.
X-Offender
Seedorf wants Hernanes.

Link
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 17 2014, 08:26 AM) *
Seedorf wants Hernanes.

Link

I've read somewhere at the expense of Saponara though.

I'm not sure we should be giving up our few young talented prospects in these deals though.

I would welcome Hernanes, but not in exchange for our few talented young bloods!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2014, 03:40 AM) *
I think it's almost official now: Saponara is a failed investment.

Madness! Quite a premature assessment in my opinion Fillipo. I'm surprised you feel that way. Remember he only came here in summer meracato, was injured for an extended period of time, then when he finally recovered he was kept on the sidelines for an extended period of time, and when he finally got his few appearances in, I think he did well (not to mention against in a high pressure match in the form of a derby).


QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Jan 17 2014, 04:10 AM) *
What? He has been here less than a year, was injured for most of that time, and barely gotten any chances to play. The kid deserves some playing time before he is completely written off.

+1 Agreed completely.

Ry4n
AC Milan Introduce Strict Transfer Policy

AC MilanAdriano GallianiBarbara BerlusconiZlatan Ibrahimovic
Barbara BerlusconiAC Milan have created some strict rules with regard to their transfer policy that limits overspending on players.

The Rossoneri have gone through some big management changes and now it looks like they’re introducing a spending cap.

According to Gazzetta dello Sport vice-president Adriano Galliani is required to consult others before making big moves.

The transfer guru is limited to spending under €25 million on a player unless he gains permission from Barbara Berlusconi.

‘Lady B’ as she is referred to in the media now has a say in matters at Milan as she intends to safeguard the club’s finances.

A player’s salary cannot exceed €10m a year with Zlatan Ibrahimovic the last to be paid such high figures at the club.

These rules are aimed at bringing down the amount spent annually on wages as it normally hovers around the €100m mark.

By introducing a wage cap the Rossoneri are taking steps to improving their finances but could struggle to attract the top players in the future.

Honestly i think a wage cap should be introduced from the FIGC side its ridiculous the amount of money that is being paid these days. Also it would level the playing field and make the league even stronger in the long run.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2014, 09:40 AM) *
I think it's almost official now: Saponara is a failed investment.

One half year excisting of being injured and having Allegri as coach, and you dare to call him already officially a failed investment? That's rich.
Fillipo Simone
Hold your breath, I said almost.

But what's there to say? Isn't this the usual pattern? From my experience, if you don't make it sooner and start getting into these kind of co-ownerships and loan deals, you'll probably end up in-between, like Astori, always linked, never actually wanted.

And I didn't say Saponara won't turn into a decent or good player. But I just don't feel it will be with Milan. It's a mystery: he was announced as a big signing, but somehow the club lost faith in him. That's usually a bad signal.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2014, 09:54 PM) *
Hold your breath, I said almost.

But what's there to say? Isn't this the usual pattern? From my experience, if you don't make it sooner and start getting into these kind of co-ownerships and loan deals, you'll probably end up in-between, like Astori, always linked, never actually wanted.

And I didn't say Saponara won't turn into a decent or good player. But I just don't feel it will be with Milan. It's a mystery: he was announced as a big signing, but somehow the club lost faith in him. That's usually a bad signal.


Seedorf might have a different opinion on him. We'll see.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 17 2014, 08:46 AM) *
If we give up on Sapo then we might as well do the same with SES as they've both failed in trying to establish themselves due to injuries.


Done.

Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2014, 06:54 PM) *
Hold your breath, I said almost.

But what's there to say? Isn't this the usual pattern? From my experience, if you don't make it sooner and start getting into these kind of co-ownerships and loan deals, you'll probably end up in-between, like Astori, always linked, never actually wanted.

And I didn't say Saponara won't turn into a decent or good player. But I just don't feel it will be with Milan. It's a mystery: he was announced as a big signing, but somehow the club lost faith in him. That's usually a bad signal.


I think we're all being a bit harsh. Cristante himself only really broke through in the past 3 matches and has done very well in a position we're not endowed with riches in. But in the AM position Kaka and Robinho are pretty much priority choice over young Ricky.

I saw enough of him to suggest he has it, and maybe Seedorf will give him a chance?

As for SES, well he can leave ASAP imo. Lost patience with him a long time ago. And that's nothing to do with injuries.
Ry4n
QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 18 2014, 03:46 AM) *
As for SES, well he can leave ASAP imo. Lost patience with him a long time ago. And that's nothing to do with injuries.


Danny can you elaborate on that , whats he done wrong ?
X-Offender
The decision about Gabriel's future is expected to be made on Monday. He will join Reggina or a Brazilian club.

Jherson Vergara will undergo the medicals at Parma on Monday. They will loan him for the rest of the season, and there is a buy-out clause.

https://twitter.com/Milanello
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Jan 18 2014, 08:35 AM) *
Danny can you elaborate on that , whats he done wrong ?

SES has barely had a single good performance since about Dec 2012.
Ry4n
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 18 2014, 07:45 PM) *
SES has barely had a single good performance since about Dec 2012.


and that warrants him to be sold / loaned / co-owned ? if so that time where we would have cashed in has come and gone...Also hes still only 21 years old. Sure we need a reliable striker to be bought in the summer probably Dzeko quality or maybe we can sort out a deal with Fiorentina for Rossi. But there is no down side to having El Shaarawy in the team none at all , its just that our squad is thin in the striker dept and i'm talking about Poacher your Pazzini type or Pippo.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Jan 18 2014, 06:51 PM) *
and that warrants him to be sold / loaned / co-owned ? if so that time where we would have cashed in has come and gone...Also hes still only 21 years old. Sure we need a reliable striker to be bought in the summer probably Dzeko quality or maybe we can sort out a deal with Fiorentina for Rossi. But there is no down side to having El Shaarawy in the team none at all , its just that our squad is thin in the striker dept and i'm talking about Poacher your Pazzini type or Pippo.

I would definitely sell for big money, but if we don't get those kind of offers I'm with you that we should keep him but not as a certain First XI player.
KillerMax
Now only if the kid wasn't so injury prone...
Fillipo Simone
Loosing weight. That's good.
Rossoneri7
If Clarence is going for a 4-2-3-1 .. He is going to need a tactically sound DM. Fullbacks will be crucial as well, as looking at the formation I 'assume' the leaks will come in from those positions the most.
han2503
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jan 18 2014, 06:45 PM) *
Now only if the kid wasn't so injury prone...

Well he wasn't injury prone last season or the one before it... I don't think he even had a combined amount of more than 2 weeks out in those 2 seasons. Suddenly he gets injured and he's basically out for the entire season with one injury after another. Same thing happened with Pato, Bonera, Kaka and Dida in the past. Now we might even start seeing the same thing with Pazzo as well. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Clearly the problem is not the players themselves, the medical/fitness department needs to be blamed here, something needs to be done. A complete overhaul of Milan lab and the way they do things
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2014, 12:10 PM) *
Well he wasn't injury prone last season or the one before it... I don't think he even had a combined amount of more than 2 weeks out in those 2 seasons. Suddenly he gets injured and he's basically out for the entire season with one injury after another. Same thing happened with Pato, Bonera, Kaka and Dida in the past. Now we might even start seeing the same thing with Pazzo as well. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Clearly the problem is not the players themselves, the medical/fitness department needs to be blamed here, something needs to be done. A complete overhaul of Milan lab and the way they do things


Kaká? He had injuries in the past, but never of this intensity as to stay out for months and months without recovering.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 19 2014, 12:22 PM) *
Kaká? He had injuries in the past, but never of this intensity as to stay out for months and months without recovering.

Remember his knee? He actually went to the Brazil NT doctor to fix it because he didn't trust the Milan medical team anymore.
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