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han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2012, 10:23 AM) *
The club is always bigger than the player, yes, that is why we let go of Cassano. I believe had Cassano stayed on, he would have turned you against him by his antics. Such was the case with Sampdoria, Madrid and Roma.

Was Tevez really willing to lower his salary for Milan? At the time, he might have wanted that shift because of the friction between him and his club. But I think when he sat down to contemplate, he found it better to stay put and earn 250K a week versus pocket change from Milan. Kaka, despite his love for Milan didn't agree with the transfer back as well.

Kaka wasn't the one who did not agree. We wanted Madrid to basically give him over to us for free. Add to that that the tax system was a huge headache in terms of making the move possible.

Kaka definately wanted to come. Do you think he wants to be on the bench at Real where the coach basically said he does not want him?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2012, 02:08 PM) *
Kaka wasn't the one who did not agree. We wanted Madrid to basically give him over to us for free. Add to that that the tax system was a huge headache in terms of making the move possible.

Kaka definately wanted to come. Do you think he wants to be on the bench at Real where the coach basically said he does not want him?


Exactly, the case is similar in terms of taxation and wages.
X-Offender


Cassano

Leaves Roma in 2006, 2 years later Franco Sensi dies.
Leaves Sampdoria in 2011, 2 years late Garrone dies.
Leaves Milan in 2012...

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William405
Garrone's dead?!From what?
Jack Bauer
pancreatic cancer.
acid911
Remind me to never sign this cursed player if I ever start a club. sleep.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 22 2013, 10:46 PM) *
Garrone's dead?!From what?


Since 2 years now.
Rossoneri7
Cassano sends warm and sincere regards to Milan and its fans

QUOTE
“How are Milan doing? I’m an Inter fan. The only teams I have to talk well about are Sampdoria, who remained in my heart, Inter and Parma.

“I don’t give a damn about any of the other clubs I played for.”
acid911
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Jack Bauer
Ungrateful piece of sh!t.
kurtsimonw
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He's been one of my favourite Italian players since he came on the scene with Bari and it was brilliant to see him in the red and black. Shame things turned out this way. sad.gif
Fillipo Simone
He's just pathetic, nothing less or more.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 12 2014, 05:52 PM) *
He's been one of my favourite Italian players since he came on the scene with Bari and it was brilliant to see him in the red and black. Shame things turned out this way. sad.gif

He WAS one of my favourite Italian players and it was brilliant to see him in the red and black.

It's indeed a shame that things turned out this way. sad.gif dry.gif
X-Offender
He's a nobody. Hasn't won jackshit in his entire pathetic career. Sad, sad person.
acid911
Good thing I never bought into the hype then. sleep.gif No sale, Cassano, you never so much as made me notice!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 13 2014, 12:49 AM) *
He's a nobody. Hasn't won jackshit in his entire pathetic career. Sad, sad person.

He'll probably have you believe the titles for Madrid in '07 and Milan in '11 were solely down to him...
Jack Bauer
That will be hard to do since he played in about 7 league games in Madrid's title.

You gotta be a very shitty person if you act like that after what we did for him.
Forza Milan!
Just came to the realization that, as an Azzurri fan, I may actually have to cheer for him. Aaargh!
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 7 2014, 10:18 PM) *
Just came to the realization that, as an Azzurri fan, I may actually have to cheer for him. Aaargh!

I will definitely cheer for him

Don't get me wrong, the guy is scum, but he's a genius on the ball and Italy need a bit of that with their lack of a true trequartista
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 7 2014, 11:20 PM) *
I will definitely cheer for him

Don't get me wrong, the guy is scum, but he's a genius on the ball and Italy need a bit of that with their lack of a true trequartista

I agree on his quality, only problem is he cannot play 90 minutes in the heat.

(In any case, I have come to despise the dude.)
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 7 2014, 10:20 PM) *
Don't get me wrong, the guy is scum, but he's a genius on the ball and Italy need a bit of that with their lack of a true trequartista


Sadly.
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 7 2014, 10:42 PM) *
I agree on his quality, only problem is he cannot play 90 minutes in the heat.

(In any case, I have come to despise the dude.)

I'd personally prefer a one legged Cassano if the alternative in Prandelli's mind is Candreva

I seriously don't get this, Cassano, Insigne and Cerci are SO much better than this dud. I just don't know WTF Prandelli sees in this dude

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 7 2014, 11:10 PM) *
Sadly.

Yep
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 7 2014, 11:19 PM) *
I seriously don't get this, Cassano, Insigne and Cerci are SO much better than this dud. I just don't know WTF Prandelli sees in this dude


Whatever he saw in Giaccherini.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 8 2014, 12:06 AM) *
Whatever he saw in Giaccherini.

Giaccherini is also better than this guy. At least Giaccherini gives you 100%, always involved, always trying. With Candreva on it feels like playing with 10 men. He just doesn't add anything to the game
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 7 2014, 09:20 PM) *
I will definitely cheer for him

Don't get me wrong, the guy is scum, but he's a genius on the ball and Italy need a bit of that with their lack of a true trequartista


Think you're horribly over rating him. He is/was very talented but miles off genius.
acid911
QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 8 2014, 06:56 AM) *
Think you're horribly over rating him. He is/was very talented but miles off genius.

This. Totally. sleep.gif The last genius I saw play for Italy was Baggio. One of my favorite players, still, top five! Totti for me was the only other guy able to mount a challenge when it came to on field magic. The rest are all mortals. And this guy you mention, I guess, he's okay. Does whatever a lot of big name players do.

But truly magical? Footballing genius? I'd reserve that for the very best, thank you very much!
Fillipo Simone
I think Del Piero was a genius. Pirlo surely is as well, just like Albertini, but in a different way.

I never adored Baggio that much to be honest. Yes, he was a genius, but consistency wasn't his thing. He also never managed to take the team in his hand a lead the way through, something Del Piero, Totti or even Albertini knew how to do in and out.
han2503
Del Piero and Totti both never really performed for the national team.

There are different levels of genius. A player can be a genius but waste it away like Cassano has throughout his career.
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 8 2014, 01:45 PM) *
I never adored Baggio that much to be honest. Yes, he was a genius, but consistency wasn't his thing. He also never managed to take the team in his hand a lead the way through, something Del Piero, Totti or even Albertini knew how to do in and out.

Yeah, he was a moments player. smile.gif A touch player. If he is in the touch, he'd pull off magic, it not, well, then not so much. That is why he is fifth place in my top 5 of all time, but for me Baggio was a joy to watch. And he had all the talent in the world, with a vision and class to match.

Consistency, however, not that much. And that's a fact.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 8 2014, 11:38 AM) *
Del Piero and Totti both never really performed for the national team.

There are different levels of genius. A player can be a genius but waste it away like Cassano has throughout his career.

So which player did perform for Italy on a constant basis and was a genius? I think you won't find many.

Totti had his ups and downs, but in terms of consistency him and especially Del Piero easily top Baggio. Especially in big tournaments.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 8 2014, 11:31 AM) *
So which player did perform for Italy on a constant basis and was a genius? I think you won't find many.

Totti had his ups and downs, but in terms of consistency him and especially Del Piero easily top Baggio. Especially in big tournaments.

Baggio carried Italy to a final and scored in 3 Wold Cup tournaments. I think Baggio was much more influential for Italy than either Totti or Del Piero.

Totti and DP have both been club legends but I really don't remember any tournament where they were the undisputed stars of the Azzurri and produced games where they carried the team, like what Baggio did in 94 for example
Fillipo Simone
1994 was Baggio's biggest event; yet he did leave bad taste with the missed penalty. Otherwise he was too streaky for my taste.
X-Offender
Pirlo has been quite influential and consistent for Italy in the past ten years.
Forza Milan!
Cassano thinks he will be a coach in the future

Really?
Danny
Most likely diesel powered.
X-Offender
Anyone read about his latest shenanigan? So, 8 days ago it was officially announced that he had signed for Verona, forming a trio with Pazzini and Cerci. Then this morning he came out and said that he had changed his mind and that he was going to retire in order to stay close to his family in his hometown, leaving everyone baffled. Then later on today he made YET ANOTHER announcement saying he had changed his mind again and that he would play for Verona.

What a clown. laugh.gif
Fillipo Simone
Yep. A complete clown.
Jack Sparrow
Genius player but just crazy. I hope Balotelli won't end up the same.
Danny
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 18 2017, 07:44 PM) *
Genius player but just crazy. I hope Balotelli won't end up the same.


End up?
X-Offender
Changed his mind AGAIN today, decided to quit football.

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Danny
Was just about to pop on and post this biggrin.gif

I read the story and just barked 'again?!'

Absolute clown of a man.
han2503
An absolute head case, don't know why any club still trusts him

We should loan Cutrone to Verona. I feel bad for them and he'll get the minutes there
Fillipo Simone
Will he? With Pazzo not being injured...hmh...
Danny
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 18 2017, 07:44 PM) *
Genius player


I have to take issue with this. Genius?
Fillipo Simone
What's the issue? A brilliant footballing mind.

Sadly, a very confused guy who's clearly on a self destruct mission.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 25 2017, 11:15 PM) *
I have to take issue with this. Genius?


He was man. He just was. When he was on his game, he'd make you go WOW. The thing was when his head was screwed on straight, he was a f@cking beast. Almost no weaknesses. I dare say he could have become greater than Totti the promise he showed. But yes, top sports professionals are all about that mental discipline as well and he didn't have that.
Danny
Even a flawed genius could have achieved more in the game than he. I don't buy into it - I admit on his day very good, but not world class and not genius. Just my humble incorrect opinion tongue.gif
X-Offender
Cassano has class, no doubt about it. Football-wise, I speak. But he's a complete idiot.
han2503
Cassano when he was younger and on his game was simply amazing. Forget his time with us or Real or Inter. He'd already gone off the deep end by then.

Just look at some of the games he had at Roma. He was a genius imo. But he could never truly realise his true potential simply because his mental issues held him back.

Look at Balotelli, so much talent yet so little brain cells.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2017, 04:00 AM) *
Cassano when he was younger and on his game was simply amazing. Forget his time with us or Real or Inter. He'd already gone off the deep end by then.

Just look at some of the games he had at Roma. He was a genius imo. But he could never truly realise his true potential simply because his mental issues held him back.

Look at Balotelli, so much talent yet so little brain cells.


I actually think Balotelli has less talent but more brains than Cassano. Which is not saying much but still...
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