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dst
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 16 2009, 01:44 AM) *
That's Pippo for you... too bad he never really learned to beat the offside trap. I think he would have scored at least 100 more goals in his career.

Well if he had been more careful there are many goals he probably would not have scored too.
But this one... he had all the time in the world and he could see the last defender standing right in front of him.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 15 2009, 03:44 PM) *
That's Pippo for you... too bad he never really learned to beat the offside trap. I think he would have scored at least 100 more goals in his career.

He might even be the top scorer in Serie A history if he had ever learned some semblance of control. Just might be a case of what-could-have-been despite his career accomplishments.
Zed.D
QUOTE (elcordobez @ Feb 16 2009, 03:18 AM) *

I really liked Santon, but Pato made him look like a ***** here cool.gif

Thanks for posting!
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 16 2009, 03:20 AM) *
Well if he had been more careful there are many goals he probably would not have scored too.
But this one... he had all the time in the world and he could see the last defender standing right in front of him.

Yes, but I think the number of goals he would have scored easily outnumbers the goals he would not have scored...

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 16 2009, 03:21 AM) *
He might even be the top scorer in Serie A history if he had ever learned some semblance of control. Just might be a case of what-could-have-been despite his career accomplishments.


Yup, agreed.
dst
I don't think Santon was all that good. He looked shaky and if Zambrotta, Becks were not so poor today he would have faced many more problems. Of course that was his first game, I'm not judging him I just don't think he did very well.
He's right footed though and while there's no choice when Maicon is there I wonder how much playing him on the left will hinder his progress as an attacking full-back.

Maybe after Facchetti, Cabrini and Maldini it's Inter's turn again to have the next great Italian left-back? We'll see... I will bet my money on Albertazzi, he's a lefty too... cool.gif
Zed.D
You will bet your money on someone who is yet to play a single minute for the 1st team? you're very brave!

I had not seen Santon before but after tonight I'm convinced he has a [very] bright future...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 15 2009, 11:51 PM) *
He might even be the top scorer in Serie A history if he had ever learned some semblance of control. Just might be a case of what-could-have-been despite his career accomplishments.

Imagine if Pippo could actually play football at all.. he'd be unstoppable.. tongue.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 16 2009, 03:40 AM) *
Imagine if Pippo could actually play football at all.. he'd be unstoppable.. tongue.gif


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dst
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 16 2009, 02:10 AM) *
You will bet your money on someone who is yet to play a single minute for the 1st team? you're very brave!

I had not seen Santon before but after tonight I'm convinced he has a [very] bright future...

Well I won't bet all my money! tongue.gif

It seems so, it remains to be seen. We still don't know what he can do in attack though he did make an excellent cross for Figo's goal last week but he has a long way to go.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 16 2009, 02:10 AM) *
Imagine if Pippo could actually play football at all.. he'd be unstoppable.. tongue.gif

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Rivaldo
I'm not going to say something new.....

No comments...just one: Rosetti - shame of whole Italy....
Zed.D
Stop bashing Rosetti!! realmad.gif it was a mistake. just like we won the last derby with a mistake. what's wrong with you people? rolleyes.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 16 2009, 01:21 AM) *
Stop bashing Rosetti!! realmad.gif it was a mistake. just like we won the last derby with a mistake. what's wrong with you people? rolleyes.gif

As I said to you in half time, there's no quid pro quo in football. They had their share of blaming the ref last derby, now we can have ours...
acid911
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 16 2009, 04:44 AM) *
I'll risk a double post to say: Best post of the afternoon by far.

Why, thank you! cool.gif I was quiet and wouldn't have replied, had you not posted that Carlo interview. I think of him as a great tactician, but hey, it's not that hard to come out and admit your mistakes. Or take it up on himself, even if it wasn't his doing, it's his team after all. But hey, we wuz robbed, two penalties (I actually think it was one), the Scudetto is gone (even though we're five games into the second half of the season, not thinking what his players will think), and no, before anyone says otherwise, this is not my last derby. It's Paolo's. Thank you.

Great people admit their mistakes (be it Carlo, or the team), learn from them, and don't repeat them again! Ever.

QUOTE (Rivaldo @ Feb 16 2009, 05:19 AM) *
No comments...just one: Rosetti - shame of whole Italy....

Yeah, he made a very vital mistake. sad.gif And so did the linesperson (man or woman). Unfortunately for some, and fortunately for others, we were on the receiving end of it. The majority of the people in the stadium, and most commentators thought otherwise. It was deja vu for them, I guess, of some sorts.

Besides, last I checked Milan was supposed to be bigger than a ref's mistake. We should have scored 3 goals, to their 2, and that match was in the bag. Football really is a simple game, after all.
MizNelson
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 15 2009, 04:30 PM) *
Besides, last I checked Milan was supposed to be bigger than a ref's mistake.

True. Milan have accomplished so much that it's sad to see fans nowadays clawing for reasons why we didn't win. On R&B, for instance, in the midst of the usual immature profanity, some folks were hellbent on insisting that Adriano's handball was intentional (which, unfortunately, it was not). I won't go into another diatribe because acid covered everything already.

After today, we've now conceded 25 goals in 24 league games. Not a good number at all. At this time last year, we were at 17.
acid911
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 16 2009, 05:42 AM) *
At this time last year, we were at 17.

cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif Thanks, I was looking for that number!
Il Capitano
WoW, The scudetto was our first priority and we are already out of the race.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Feb 15 2009, 06:32 PM) *
WoW, The scudetto was our first priority and we are already out of the race.

Oh well, nothing makes me happier than Galliani having to eat crow.
MizNelson
Edit: Double post.
Portman
A posto così.
acid911
QUOTE (Portikins @ Feb 16 2009, 07:59 AM) *
A posto così.

About time, Porty. smile.gif You chose a hell of a time to get back! LOL.
MizNelson
Before today's match (obviously):

Gianluca Pagliuca Hoping For Inter Win In Derby

The now former footballer is siding with the Nerazzurri in the derby della Madonnina scheduled for Serie A's matchday 24 this weekend.

Former Inter goalkeeper Gianluca Pagliuca has fond memories of the derbies he played against Milan between 1994 and 1999.

Pagliuca revealed how he never suffered a defeat against the Rossoneri in Serie A, and hopes that the Nerazzurri can increase the lead over their opponents on Sunday evening.

"I played in ten league derbies, of which six ended in a draw and four we won. Therefore, I never lost," explained the former player to Itasportpress.

"On the other hand, in Coppa Italia I played three games with two wins and one defeat. Winning a derby is always beautiful, it rewards you with a great joy.

"The fans particularly care about it and they celebrate for at least a week. For Sunday's game, I see a very motivated Milan side.

"They are eight points behind and will do everything they can to decrease the gap. As a former Inter goalkeeper, I can only side with the Nerazzurri."

During his long career, Pagliuca spent five seasons at Inter, playing 165 Serie A games before joining Bologna in 1999, where he spent seven seasons and played a total of 248 leagues games for the Felsinei.

(Goal.com)
Zed.D
QUOTE (Portikins @ Feb 16 2009, 07:29 AM) *
A posto così.


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Zed.D
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 04:55 AM) *
As I said to you in half time, there's no quid pro quo in football. They had their share of blaming the ref last derby, now we can have ours...


blink.gif OK...!
MizNelson
What the hell is wrong with me; I'm posting too much Inert stuff. But this is the Paolo banner from early in the game. (I can't read the last word, however.)

Zed.D
What was the translation, again? "for 20 years our rival, but also a gentleman"?
dst
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 16 2009, 10:29 AM) *
What the hell is wrong with me; I'm posting too much Inert stuff. But this is the Paolo banner from early in the game. (I can't read the last word, however.)


Thanks for the picture! The last word is leale.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 16 2009, 10:35 AM) *
What was the translation, again? "for 20 years our rival, but also a gentleman"?

'for 20 years our rival but in life always fair'
rujo
does anyone have a photo of our coreography?
i'd like to know what i was doing here laugh.gif


Ry4n
QUOTE (rujo @ Feb 16 2009, 11:30 AM) *
does anyone have a photo of our coreography?
i'd like to know what i was doing here laugh.gif


Hope you had a good time man, i wonder what banner you were holding up devilsmiley.gif , the atmosphere must of been amazing!! , yeah where are all the pictures guys & girls ive tried looking for them but can't find any yet unsure.gif
dst
QUOTE (Josephine)
“I would've said it was a goal. His movement was to head the ball and that was his intention, so it is involuntary. There are some situations that are difficult to judge,” assured the Coach.

“On the other hand, there are easy decisions, like [Massimo] Ambrosini, who should've had a second booking and a red."

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Adriano's clear handball goal is difficult to judge while Ambrosini's foul deserved a yellow and it's also an easy decision? Please bust this arrogant pr__k, he does not know what he's talking about! laugh.gif
Jack Sparrow
biggrin.gif Love him or hate him..you cannot ignore him.


Rafa was right...Rossetti does tend to favour the home team. sleep.gif

Rossoneri7
Apart from the result and apart from the gray situations, I think Milan played a very good game.

In the end the result is what counts, and Milan have just lost any Scudetto aspirations for this season dry.gif

I hope this doesn't affect the team moral and they keep on playing the way they recently have.
Fillipo Simone
As I said earlier on, best would be now to sit down, relax, and enjoy the Milan-moments while they're still lasting...
Ry4n
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 12:46 PM) *
As I said earlier on, best would be now to sit down, relax, and enjoy the Milan-moments while they're still lasting...


is the team being disbanded laugh.gif cheer up man , at least we did'nt play a bad game , as R7 said we played good but didn't win , i hope i doesnt affect our moral but i think it will after all its the Derby sad.gif we will get them next season devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif
elcordobez
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Feb 16 2009, 11:57 PM) *
is the team being disbanded laugh.gif cheer up man , at least we did'nt play a bad game , as R7 said we played good but didn't win , i hope i doesnt affect our moral but i think it will after all its the Derby sad.gif we will get them next season devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif



+1 smile.gif
acid911
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Feb 16 2009, 05:57 PM) *
is the team being disbanded cheer up man , at least we did'nt play a bad game , as R7 said we played good but didn't win , i hope i doesnt affect our moral but i think it will after all its the Derby we will get them next season

No we won't. sad.gif Not if the squad/coach/tactics stay the same. And no, I'm not disappointed that we lost the match, after all it's one of the three possible results. What disappoints me is that we got to a point where we pegged our season success on this one match. Had we been winning regularly, we'd probably still be level or a couple of points higher than inter. Had we won the small matches, had we played to our potential. So much talent, so much class, all gone to waste one way or another. What's worse that there are 39 points left to play for, and the coach comes out and says the race is over. Way to motivate the team, with a defeatist attitude, I say!

Next year, will be the same, if things don't change. Probably. smile.gif No CL was bad enough, but giving inter an 11 point lead even though we have a far better squad than them is even worse. And to think we completely built a squad for the Scudetto challenge this time. It was the same stagnant atmosphere in the late 90s and early 2000s that sent us into the wilderness. People who are pro-management, pro-Carlo, who think everything is alright, well they should know that it could all come crashing down, while they keep on defending this. If they still can't see, then be my guest! But frankly put, I can't put up with this shtick knowing full well that there are problems, leaks, lack of motivation, lack of the required talent (injuries are another matter, altogether) that could have been pegged with a little effort, and we could have been a contender.

Of course we will beat them, of course we will win the league! But the same was said last year. And the year before. Like I said, it was not one match - it's a train wreck we're witnessing, which was coming. I just hope it doesn't come crashing too hard. One can fantasize all they want about Milan, Milan history, Milan philosophy, Milan legends - as a fan. It's easy. wink.gif Apparently it's all sunny. A day at the beach, if I may. As a club owner, as a club director, not quite. There is the dirty laundry that fans don't see. It's a cruel, cruel world after all. The world of reality (that almost kicked Kaka out). $$$ matters. One more CL miss, and then we'll talk (hopefully not, but very possible, and very probable).
Ry4n
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 16 2009, 01:29 PM) *
No we won't. sad.gif Not if the squad/coach/tactics stay the same. And no, I'm not disappointed that we lost the match, after all it's one of the three possible results. What disappoints me is that we got to a point where we pegged our season success on this one match. Had we been winning regularly, we'd probably still be level or a couple of points higher than inter. Had we won the small matches, had we played to our potential. So much talent, so much class, all gone to waste one way or another. What's worse that there are 39 points left to play for, and the coach comes out and says the race is over. Way to motivate the team, with a defeatist attitude, I say!

Next year, will be the same, if things don't change. Probably. smile.gif No CL was bad enough, but giving inter an 11 point lead even though we have a far better squad than them is even worse. And to think we completely built a squad for the Scudetto challenge this time. It was the same stagnant atmosphere in the late 90s and early 2000s that sent us into the wilderness. People who are pro-management, pro-Carlo, who think everything is alright, well they should know that it could all come crashing down, while they keep on defending this. If they still can't see, then be my guest! But frankly put, I can't put up with this shtick knowing full well that there are problems, leaks, lack of motivation, lack of the required talent (injuries are another matter, altogether) that could have been pegged with a little effort, and we could have been a contender.

Of course we will beat them, of course we will win the league! But the same was said last year. And the year before. Like I said, it was not one match - it's a train wreck we're witnessing, which was coming. I just hope it doesn't come crashing too hard. One can fantasize all they want about Milan, Milan history, Milan philosophy, Milan legends - as a fan. It's easy. wink.gif Apparently it's all sunny. A day at the beach, if I may. As a club owner, as a club director, not quite. There is the dirty laundry that fans don't see. It's a cruel, cruel world after all. The world of reality (that almost kicked Kaka out). $$$ matters. One more CL miss, and then we'll talk (hopefully not, but very possible, and very probable).


I get what your saying man but as Fans there is'nt much we can do but support the team in the moment , yes we had dark periods as you said in the late 90s and early 2000 but we came back!! maybe im stubborn but im not going to give in look at Juve they blew it against Sampdoria. maybe Carlo said what he said about the Title ambitions being are over to not pressurise the team even more. Until that final whistle blows on week 38 nothing is certain a few defeats draws for inter and anything can happen ITS FOOTBALL THATS WHY WE ALL LOVE IT !!!!
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 16 2009, 02:29 PM) *
No we won't. sad.gif Not if the squad/coach/tactics stay the same. And no, I'm not disappointed that we lost the match, after all it's one of the three possible results. What disappoints me is that we got to a point where we pegged our season success on this one match. Had we been winning regularly, we'd probably still be level or a couple of points higher than inter. Had we won the small matches, had we played to our potential. So much talent, so much class, all gone to waste one way or another. What's worse that there are 39 points left to play for, and the coach comes out and says the race is over. Way to motivate the team, with a defeatist attitude, I say!

Next year, will be the same, if things don't change. Probably. smile.gif No CL was bad enough, but giving inter an 11 point lead even though we have a far better squad than them is even worse. And to think we completely built a squad for the Scudetto challenge this time. It was the same stagnant atmosphere in the late 90s and early 2000s that sent us into the wilderness. People who are pro-management, pro-Carlo, who think everything is alright, well they should know that it could all come crashing down, while they keep on defending this. If they still can't see, then be my guest! But frankly put, I can't put up with this shtick knowing full well that there are problems, leaks, lack of motivation, lack of the required talent (injuries are another matter, altogether) that could have been pegged with a little effort, and we could have been a contender.

Of course we will beat them, of course we will win the league! But the same was said last year. And the year before. Like I said, it was not one match - it's a train wreck we're witnessing, which was coming. I just hope it doesn't come crashing too hard. One can fantasize all they want about Milan, Milan history, Milan philosophy, Milan legends - as a fan. It's easy. wink.gif Apparently it's all sunny. A day at the beach, if I may. As a club owner, as a club director, not quite. There is the dirty laundry that fans don't see. It's a cruel, cruel world after all. The world of reality (that almost kicked Kaka out). $$$ matters. One more CL miss, and then we'll talk (hopefully not, but very possible, and very probable).

Did the world come to an end?
Ry4n
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 01:50 PM) *
Did the world come to an end?


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Fillipo Simone
I don't know wether this situation needs another "gigantic post" or not but...

1. It's always up to the "small teams won/lost". Why? Because it's simple math - in Serie A there are more small teams then big teams. Only in rare occasions when 2 or 3 teams are even and win parallel almost all matches, a derby stays decisive.

2. I don't think there is a "pro-coach/management section" that thinks everything is sunny an alright. It's totally not neccessary to make such rifts.

3. Problems come, problems go. That's normal life and reality we all enjoy and count on. Why overdramatize and make a big story out of it? Sure we need changes...

acid911
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Feb 16 2009, 06:34 PM) *
I get what your saying man but as Fans there is'nt much we can do but support the team in the moment , yes we had dark periods as you said in the late 90s and early 2000 but we came back!! maybe im stubborn but im not going to give in look at Juve they blew it against Sampdoria. maybe Carlo said what he said about the Title ambitions being are over to not pressurise the team even more. Until that final whistle blows on week 38 nothing is certain a few defeats draws for inter and anything can happen ITS FOOTBALL THATS WHY WE ALL LOVE IT !!!!

You are a fan that accepts there are problems. cool.gif As fans that's what required from us. This is what it's all about. People (members, management, media) think that there isn't. That's where the trouble starts. I haven't given up on it, and probably won't till the final week, but hey at least we agree that it's a mess out there. Whether we want to believe it or not. But denying there isn't a problem won't get us anywhere soon:





QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 06:50 PM) *
Did the world come to an end?

Wait for it. huh.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE
You are a fan that accepts there are problems. As fans that's what required from us. This is what it's all about. People (members, management, media) think that there isn't. That's where the trouble starts. I haven't given up on it, and probably won't till the final week, but hey at least we agree that it's a mess out there. Whether we want to believe it or not. But denying there isn't a problem won't get us anywhere soon:

Well who's exactly denying problems?
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 06:55 PM) *
I don't know wether this situation needs another "gigantic post" or not but...

Not necessary. smile.gif

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 06:55 PM) *
1. It's always up to the "small teams won/lost". Why? Because it's simple math - in Serie A there are more small teams then big teams. Only in rare occasions when 2 or 3 teams are even and win parallel almost all matches, a derby stays decisive.

Same is the case in all leagues. wink.gif I'd frankly lose 6 matches a season big time, and win the remaining 32, and there's your title. But let me stress it's never been about titles for me. A good display is all I need for my Milan fix in one week. An energetic, confident display. Is that too much to ask?

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 06:55 PM) *
2. I don't think there is a "pro-coach/management section" that thinks everything is sunny an alright. It's totally not neccessary to make such rifts.

Oh, there may not be one here in this forum. happy.gif There is one in the Milan management, alright. Did you check out the interview Carlo gave yesterday after the match. Or the ones he's been giving for these last three years? Let's just forget about it. Or as Donnie Brasco said: Fuggadaboutit.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 06:55 PM) *
3. Problems come, problems go. That's normal life and reality we all enjoy and count on. Why overdramatize and make a big story out of it? Sure we need changes...

That time has come and gone, my friend. We needed these desired changes in 2005. dry.gif I'm not saying change the coach. Just tactics. Ask Carlo to show a little spine. The same for the team. Sign the right players, not management favorites. And kick out (or bench) the weeds (Seedorf, Kaladze, and company).

And still if the results don't come, you won't find me complaining. I promise. For I know we tried.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 07:00 PM) *
Well who's exactly denying problems?

You're not looking in the right place, there, buddy! biggrin.gif Putting it on referees, and opposition players, and the whether, and what not is what, exactly? Playing the same players who make mistakes again in the next match (when there are other options available) is what, exactly? And beside if the Milan management wasn't denying problems, they'd be doing something to correct them - not make it worse.

Let me say this clearly, again: It's not the inter match that makes me worried. This has been the story of the season(s) for us, with no end in sight. Maybe we'll sign some miracle players, not renew with some, Carlo finally starts playing a bit more attacking, a bit more confident, a bit more varied, and all will get back to where it was. If not, well there are always better people for a job.
Fillipo Simone
Ancelotti is a coach not a problem fixer at this period. And press conferences...well, they are for the press anyway..

Just relax acid,...Milan will be back in time.
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 07:22 PM) *
Ancelotti is a coach not a problem fixer at this period. And press conferences...well, they are for the press anyway..

Is he, now? huh.gif That's a new one for me.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 07:22 PM) *
Just relax acid,...Milan will be back in time.

I take 6 chill pills at regular intervals ever day. tongue.gif So yeah, I was born relaxed. As for Milan, well let's just wait and see. Time will tell, as it always does.
rujo
i found yesterday's coreography, it should be a san siro stadium image, here it is:
acid911
Great, sweeping image, rujo! cool.gif Excellent share.
Ry4n
QUOTE (rujo @ Feb 16 2009, 02:44 PM) *
i found yesterday's coreography, it should be a san siro stadium image, here it is:


nice where were you sitting !
acid911
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Feb 16 2009, 07:50 PM) *
nice where were you sitting !

I think there's a little white line near the top right corner of the image that points where he sat, Rhy. wink.gif You're welcome. I know, I know, don't say it. I'm just too good with these sorts of things! tongue.gif Just kidding!
rujo
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 16 2009, 03:56 PM) *
I think there's a little white line near the top right corner of the image that points where he sat, Rhy. wink.gif You're welcome. I know, I know, don't say it. I'm just too good with these sorts of things! tongue.gif Just kidding!


that's right, i was were the white line leads biggrin.gif
acid911
QUOTE (rujo @ Feb 16 2009, 08:01 PM) *
that's right, i was were the white line leads



Haha, yeah, exactly. I'd have guessed it even if you didn't put up that line. In the inset photo (small photo) there is the Coca Cola sign, and also people holding up the white, um, things. LOL!
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