I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (armiss @ Jan 19 2009, 06:29 PM)

even butchers dont do like this as what Sheikh, Kaka's father and Milan management did to Kaka and us
it seems that they are drinking a cup of water
I'd like to pi55 in it.
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 07:38 PM
I have heard it's all over.
armiss
Jan 19 2009, 07:39 PM
No, exactly SHeikh is the main reason and then others, he is doing something that doesnt truly understand, Kaka dont want to leave but he want to take Kaka with everything he has ! i call him BUTCHER SHEIKH
BUTCHER SHEIKH thinks that he is buying a hot dog !
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 07:47 PM
QUOTE (armiss @ Jan 19 2009, 06:39 PM)

No exactly SHeikh is the main reason and then others, he is doing something that doesnt truly understand, Kaka dont want to leave but he want to take Kaka with everything he can ! i call him BUTCHER SHEIKH
BUTCHER SHEIKH think that he is buying a hot dog !
Kaka's dad is being a greedy son of a ***** though. I heard that every time an offer has come in for Ricky he has instantly asked for a pay rise. The management tried to play him off by saying 'us or 5hity' and all the greedy b1tch could see was the green
IMO this is possibly the worst thing Ricky could have ever done!
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (armiss @ Jan 19 2009, 06:39 PM)

No, exactly SHeikh is the main reason and then others, he is doing something that doesnt truly understand, Kaka dont want to leave but he want to take Kaka with everything he can ! i call him BUTCHER SHEIKH
BUTCHER SHEIKH thinks that he is buying a hot dog !
This sheikh will ruin football if he gets his way, Ricky is just the beginning!
armiss
Jan 19 2009, 07:50 PM
O
Really
You always forgot BUTCHER SHEIKH
WHY BUTCHER SHEIKH DOESNT LISTEN TO KAKA's HEART ?
BUTCHER SHEIKH provided everything and then others came .....
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 07:58 PM
butcher sheikh might lose more in the credit crunch
Rivaldo
Jan 19 2009, 07:59 PM
Mark Hughes by his own called Ricky. Arrr...
Friend of Kaka's family told that Kaka is absolutely in confusion, he is pale and has lost courage. He not comes from home whole day.
Now Tiffosi are going to do something near Kaka's home at via Aurelio
dst
Jan 19 2009, 08:06 PM
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (Rivaldo @ Jan 19 2009, 06:59 PM)

Mark Hughes by his own called Ricky. Arrr...
Friend of Kaka's family told that Kaka is absolutely in confusion, he is pale and has lost courage. He not comes from home whole day.
Now Tiffosi are going to do something near Kaka's home at via Aurelio
I really feel for Ricky, he is like a pawn caught in an ego war between his father and berlusconi.
There are no winners in this sad battle.
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jan 19 2009, 07:34 PM)

Seems Kaka's father and berlusconi were the instigators of this move. As much as I despise Galliani I really do think he tried to hold on to Ricky.
I stand on your corner.
I don't think Silvio outright told him to sell him but forced him to by distancing himself from the club.
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 19 2009, 07:06 PM)

Trouble is dst, Ricky is too trusting and has been blackmailed over this transfer. On one hand his father is saying think of the family and the other berlusconi is saying go if you want.
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 08:09 PM
QUOTE (Rivaldo @ Jan 19 2009, 07:59 PM)

Mark Hughes by his own called Ricky. Arrr...
Ricky being coached by a third rate English coach... What is this world coming to?
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 19 2009, 08:09 PM
i read he waved his right hand from his window and stuff
Tennie
Jan 19 2009, 08:11 PM
Not sure it's appeared in English anywhere yet and I'm only hearing it 3rd hand (email from an italian friend) but apparently Kaka's father's business in Brazil is....really in very bad financial shape. This may have somethign to do with the pressure for Kaka to take the City deal.
Bluesummers
Jan 19 2009, 08:13 PM
What a worthless club we are. Pathetic. Our values mean nothing anymore. Were in the same boat as real madrid. I thought i would never see the day where i would be saying these words. even though we hired oldies etc etc i thought we always did it in order for us to be able to maintain our family values and not become real madrid.
We are now forcing out a player who does not want to leave. A player who is our flag bearer, our symbol. A player who delivered us our 7th and stood by us even though we are in uefa cup, when he easily could have moved in the summer. A player who has always rejected offers from real madrid eventhough he knows they can pay him more just so he could stay at milan.
We don't even deserve recognition for values anymore. A club who sells their symbol are worst than trash.
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jan 19 2009, 08:08 PM)

Trouble is dst, Ricky is too trusting and has been blackmailed over this transfer. On one hand his father is saying think of the family and the other berlusconi is saying go if you want.
I think Ricky earns enough right now as it is to be able to feed a small village all on his own. It's all out of greed. What I really can;t believe that this is his own father that is forcing him to jeopardise his carreer like this. Pushing towards a club like City all because of money is a whole new low, especially for a father to go down to.
Ricky should tsand up for himself and make his own decisions, he is a grown man with his own family to think of, he can make his own decisions and not be forced into things he does not want to do.
But with that said, since the push is coming from btoh his father and the club I can't help but not blame him and the fact that he is confused
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 08:16 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 19 2009, 08:11 PM)

Not sure it's appeared in English anywhere yet and I'm only hearing it 3rd hand (email from an italian friend) but apparently Kaka's father's business in Brazil is....really in very bad financial shape. This may have somethign to do with the pressure for Kaka to take the City deal.
I think all kinds of stories are going to be thrown around at this point. I think it's a case of never having enough for his father and Silvio seeing this as a major opportunity to distance himself from Milan (The financial aspect of it, not the publicity, because you know he'll be present for any available photo op that might make him look good

)
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 08:16 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 19 2009, 07:11 PM)

Not sure it's appeared in English anywhere yet and I'm only hearing it 3rd hand (email from an italian friend) but apparently Kaka's father's business in Brazil is....really in very bad financial shape. This may have somethign to do with the pressure for Kaka to take the City deal.
...I thought his dad was his agent? His father is a money hungry good for nothing IMO
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 08:19 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2009, 07:13 PM)

I think Ricky earns enough right now as it is to be able to feed a small village all on his own. It's all out of greed. What I really can;t believe that this is his own father that is forcing him to jeopardise his carreer like this. Pushing towards a club like City all because of money is a whole new low, especially for a father to go down to.
Ricky should tsand up for himself and make his own decisions, he is a grown man with his own family to think of, he can make his own decisions and not be forced into things he does not want to do.
But with that said, since the push is coming from btoh his father and the club I can't help but not blame him and the fact that he is confused
His dad will make an estimated €9m with this move. Ricky has always maintained he is not interested in the money.
Rivaldo
Jan 19 2009, 08:23 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 19 2009, 08:09 PM)

i read he waved his right hand from his window and stuff
I read in italian Kaka took his heart with his arm(i can't say it correctly( when he saw from his window fans and banner:
Stay with us, Ricky. 6 magic years - we remember. Stay with us our future Capitan!QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 19 2009, 08:11 PM)

but apparently Kaka's father's business in Brazil is....really in very bad financial shape. This may have somethign to do with the pressure for Kaka to take the City deal.
Ricky might help him this time....
Now is the final meeting....oh my God....I beg you,,,,,helps us.....my eyes already full of tears.....
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 19 2009, 08:30 PM
well even if leaves it wont be the end of the world for milan
armiss
Jan 19 2009, 08:32 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 20 2009, 12:00 AM)

well even if leaves it wont be the end of the world for milan
everybody knows but what about our hearts ?
Warchant
Jan 19 2009, 08:34 PM
i'm just ready for all of this to be over with
it looks bad for our team, it looks bad for our league and it looks bad for our sport
i just hope kaka listens to our fans and stays.
i know that one player does not make up a club, but I believe certain decisions tdo make up a club. This is one of those decisions.
does our mgmt not care about our fans and just care about money? does kaka stay and show people like man city that they can't buy championships? or does milan sale kaka and truly use the money to rebuild this club?
it's going to be interesting to see.
Bluesummers
Jan 19 2009, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 19 2009, 01:30 PM)

well even if leaves it wont be the end of the world for milan
yes it will in a sense. If he leaves the milan values/family/treatement of players will be gone out the window. The morality that makes us different from other clubs will be different.
Milan will be over as a family and reborn into a financial business club just like everyone else. along with being a laughingstock we have no reasons to hold our heads high.
I mean we signed beckham in january and we have players like emerson/seedorf etc still playing for us. If its not for family and team harmony and trying to keep our club values in order then f*** it. Everyone above 32 should released immediatly. We should start signing youth and no more oldies for whatever the reason. F*** what they have done for the club, all we want is mercenaries now.
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 08:37 PM
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jan 19 2009, 08:34 PM)

i'm just ready for all of this to be over with
it looks bad for our team, it looks bad for our league and it looks bad for our sport
i just hope kaka listens to our fans and stays.
i know that one player does not make up a club, but I believe certain decisions tdo make up a club. This is one of those decisions.
does our mgmt not care about our fans and just care about money? does kaka stay and show people like man city that they can't buy championships? or does milan sale kaka and truly use the money to rebuild this club?
it's going to be interesting to see.
Agreed
Zed.D
Jan 19 2009, 08:39 PM
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jan 20 2009, 12:04 AM)

does our mgmt not care about our fans and just care about money? does kaka stay and show people like man city that they can't buy championships? or does milan sale kaka and truly use the money to rebuild this club?
Of course we will! don't you remember what a mighty squad we built with that £30M from Sheva's sale?
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jan 19 2009, 07:34 PM)

i'm just ready for all of this to be over with
it looks bad for our team, it looks bad for our league and it looks bad for our sport
i just hope kaka listens to our fans and stays.
i know that one player does not make up a club, but I believe certain decisions tdo make up a club. This is one of those decisions.
does our mgmt not care about our fans and just care about money? does kaka stay and show people like man city that they can't buy championships? or does milan sale kaka and truly use the money to rebuild this club?
it's going to be interesting to see.
Don't go getting your hopes up regarding rebuilding, Galliani has already stated the money is to pay debts etc!
armiss
Jan 19 2009, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 20 2009, 12:05 AM)

I mean we signed beckham in january and we have players like emerson/seedorf etc still playing for us. If its not for family and team harmony and trying to keep our club values in order then f*** it. Everyone above 32 should released immediatly. We should start signing youth and no more oldies for whatever the reason. F*** what they have done for the club, all we want is mercenaries now.
you expect Galliani to do so ?
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 19 2009, 07:39 PM)

Of course we will! don't you remember what a mighty squad we built with that £30M from Sheva's sale?

LOOOOL
Rivaldo
Jan 19 2009, 08:40 PM
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 08:41 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 19 2009, 08:39 PM)

Of course we will! don't you remember what a mighty squad we built with that £30M from Sheva's sale?

Oliveira and Emerson were just diamonds in the rough, but Carlo took care of it and polished them up, I can see the fruits of his labour this season, really paying off
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 19 2009, 08:42 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 19 2009, 07:35 PM)

yes it will in a sense. If he leaves the milan values/family/treatement of players will be gone out the window. The morality that makes us different from other clubs will be different.
Milan will be over as a family and reborn into a financial business club just like everyone else. along with being a laughingstock we have no reasons to hold our heads high.
I mean we signed beckham in january and we have players like emerson/seedorf etc still playing for us. If its not for family and team harmony and trying to keep our club values in order then f*** it. Everyone above 32 should released immediatly. We should start signing youth and no more oldies for whatever the reason. F*** what they have done for the club, all we want is mercenaries now.
well TBH u are just considering one aspect what abt kaka agents and stuff who want his wages to be raised further more one of his spokesman always discusses stuff with other clubs and milan always used to stop them this time they accepted it i mean Milan never put kaka on sale... Man city talks to his spokesman and he starts everything if kaka was so desperate to stay in milan he should have told all his agents that he does not want to move on and they should not approach or talk to anyother club
dst
Jan 19 2009, 08:43 PM
Oh my... I've been watching Ash's compilation of Kaka magic...
hereJust listen to the lyrics of the song he's picked, 'Listen to your heart'...
I know theres something in the wake of your smile.
I get a notion from the look in your eyes, yea.
Youve built a love but that love falls apart.
Your little piece of heaven turns too dark.
Listen to your heart
When hes calling for you.
Listen to your heart
Theres nothing else you can do.
I dont know where youre going
And I dont know why,
But listen to your heart
Before you tell him goodbye.
...
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 19 2009, 08:44 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 19 2009, 07:39 PM)

Of course we will! don't you remember what a mighty squad we built with that £30M from Sheva's sale?

that window we bought oliveria,yoann,bonera i think it was the next summer window whihc was our real mistake
Bluesummers
Jan 19 2009, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 19 2009, 01:42 PM)

well TBH u are just considering one aspect what abt kaka agents and stuff who want his wages to be raised further more one of his spokesman always discusses stuff with other clubs and milan always used to stop them this time they accepted it i mean Milan never put kaka on sale... Man city talks to his spokesman and he starts everything if kaka was so desperate to stay in milan he should have told all his agents that he does not want to move on and they should not approach or talk to anyother club
man you just dont understand. It doesn't even go to kaka. If man city want interest milan can say F*** off like they said to real no matter what the agent said. But as soon as berlu was shown a 130 mil euro he decided to talk. If it was less than a 100 i bet they would have said no point talking.
Kaka never said he wanted to leave and never asked for a pay rise. He said 2 days before the bid that he wants to be captain of milan.
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 19 2009, 07:42 PM)

well TBH u are just considering one aspect what abt kaka agents and stuff who want his wages to be raised further more one of his spokesman always discusses stuff with other clubs and milan always used to stop them this time they accepted it i mean Milan never put kaka on sale... Man city talks to his spokesman and he starts everything if kaka was so desperate to stay in milan he should have told all his agents that he does not want to move on and they should not approach or talk to anyother club
I think you're totally missing the point so I'll explain again what happened. Every time a club has made an offer for Ricky the club has refused and his dad has demanded a pay rise for Ricky to stay. This time around man city made a massive offer and Ricky's dads eyes lit up! Of course his dad went straight to the management and tried to demand another pay rise. The management basically said "it's us or them" hence that is why his dad has pushed for the deal.
Kaka has been a pawn in an ego battle between berlusconi and his dad.
I also think that berlusconi had something like this planned since we signed R80, I think he must have put the feelers out because this deal has flown through very quickly. The only one who I actually think tried to derail this is Galliani - ironically the one who will get all the stick!
Rivaldo
Jan 19 2009, 08:57 PM

They simply the best!
Bluesummers
Jan 19 2009, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jan 19 2009, 01:57 PM)

I think you're totally missing the point so I'll explain again what happened. Every time a club has made an offer for Ricky the club has refused and his dad has demanded a pay rise for Ricky to stay. This time around man city made a massive offer and Ricky's dads eyes lit up! Of course his dad went straight to the management and tried to demand another pay rise. The management basically said "it's us or them" hence that is why his dad has pushed for the deal.
Kaka has been a pawn in an ego battle between berlusconi and his dad.
I also think that berlusconi had something like this planned since we signed R80, I think he must have put the feelers out because this deal has flown through very quickly. The only one who I actually think tried to derail this is Galliani - ironically the one who will get all the stick!
exactly you got it dead on. One more point to add is that berlu could have told man city and kaka's agent that he is a player till 2013 and right now we are not going to talk about a renewal. If kaka had decided he wanted out than that would be fine. This hasn't even been negotiated with kaka. kaka's agent and berlu are all thinking about how to get the most money asap.
Bluesummers
Jan 19 2009, 09:02 PM
BREAKING NEWS REPORT: Kaka Snubs Manchester City With Emphatic Milan Gesture
The Brazilian megastar is reported to have recently emerged from his house and greeted a sea of Milan fans holding a Rossoneri shirt...
F*CK YOU MANCITY F*CK YOU BERLU AND GALLIANI
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jan 19 2009, 08:57 PM)

I think you're totally missing the point so I'll explain again what happened. Every time a club has made an offer for Ricky the club has refused and his dad has demanded a pay rise for Ricky to stay. This time around man city made a massive offer and Ricky's dads eyes lit up! Of course his dad went straight to the management and tried to demand another pay rise. The management basically said "it's us or them" hence that is why his dad has pushed for the deal.
Kaka has been a pawn in an ego battle between berlusconi and his dad.
I also think that berlusconi had something like this planned since we signed R80, I think he must have put the feelers out because this deal has flown through very quickly. The only one who I actually think tried to derail this is Galliani - ironically the one who will get all the stick!
Yep yep.
I have to admit, I feel sorry for the old f@rt
Zed.D
Jan 19 2009, 09:06 PM
Wait a F minute? what is you source!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????
dst
Jan 19 2009, 09:06 PM
I'll wait till it's confirmed!
Damn, I hope it's true, it's such a great gesture too!
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 19 2009, 08:02 PM)

BREAKING NEWS REPORT: Kaka Snubs Manchester City With Emphatic Milan Gesture
The Brazilian megastar is reported to have recently emerged from his house and greeted a sea of Milan fans holding a Rossoneri shirt...
F*CK YOU MANCITY F*CK YOU BERLU AND GALLIANI
Where did you hear that? Or is it a joke? Sick one if it is!
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 19 2009, 09:02 PM)

BREAKING NEWS REPORT: Kaka Snubs Manchester City With Emphatic Milan Gesture
The Brazilian megastar is reported to have recently emerged from his house and greeted a sea of Milan fans holding a Rossoneri shirt...
F*CK YOU MANCITY F*CK YOU BERLU AND GALLIANI
If this is truw I think it would be a major tastement of Ricky's faithfulness towards the club.
Ry4n
Jan 19 2009, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 19 2009, 08:02 PM)

BREAKING NEWS REPORT: Kaka Snubs Manchester City With Emphatic Milan Gesture
The Brazilian megastar is reported to have recently emerged from his house and greeted a sea of Milan fans holding a Rossoneri shirt...
F*CK YOU MANCITY F*CK YOU BERLU AND GALLIANI
GRAZIE RICKY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I_Rossoneri
Jan 19 2009, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 19 2009, 08:00 PM)

exactly you got it dead on. One more point to add is that berlu could have told man city and kaka's agent that he is a player till 2013 and right now we are not going to talk about a renewal. If kaka had decided he wanted out than that would be fine. This hasn't even been negotiated with kaka. kaka's agent and berlu are all thinking about how to get the most money asap.
berlusconi has shown his true colours over this! he is nothing more than a filthy crook.
han2503
Jan 19 2009, 09:08 PM
The headline is on goal.com, whether it's true or not...
CrazyMilanFan
Jan 19 2009, 09:08 PM
it is more of a goal guys this thing came on mediaset a while ago not that big but this saga is getting irritating it should now end with a YES or NO now
Zed.D
Jan 19 2009, 09:09 PM
I hope Blue is not fucking with us.
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