If Kaka was so desperate to leave, why didn't he leave for Real two years ago [the offer back then was not that small after all...]. unless he is Nostradamus, how could he know that in a few years' time some Crazy Arabs will take over at City and make a +£100M offer for him?

So I don't think this is the case.

Corriere dello Sport (completely unreliable source for Milan news) reported that Kaka is demanding a 2010 release clause in his Man City contract, yadda yadda yadda.

But we are not in debt. I remember Galliani bragging about it not a long time ago, when the financial crisis started...

If Don Cesare isn't sure about it, how could we be?

We had an operating loss last year of somewhere around 20-25 million euros, I think. Compared to other big clubs, that isn't too terribly much and operating loss is not the same as debt. (can check the audit next week, but on dialup, I can't download the audit to look. the document is too big).

Let me ask this hypothetical question: what if Kaka's agent said 'okay, City are offering 15 million a year. we'd like that much from Milan'.

I believe Kaka is currently earning somewhere around 7 million (not sure on this, correct me if I'm wrong), which is the most by a good bit of anyone in the club. The club has traditionally had an internally set wage cap in which the biggest stars earned more or less the same amount, so as to keep peace in the dressing room. That particular rule has already been breached when Kaka got the raise up to 7 million.

Would you agree with the hypothetical request of Kaka's agent to essentially double his salary (which would see him earning more than double of any other player on the squad)? If you did, do you think it would have any effect on morale in the dressing room?

Who the hell is this guy anyway?

Like we don't remember Real made offers for him for two consecutive seasons and he is still playing for Milan.


Because Galliani said we are not! unless he.. lied [which I wouldn't rule out].
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I clearly remember Galliani [or maybe - just maybe - Carletto] saying about Real's last summer offer that, if it was 100M, they would consider it. should explain why we are considering this one...

Tennie, correct me if I'm wrong, but Kaka is under contract and as long as the club wants him to, he must respect it. it's not like he's going to be a free agent this summer so Milan has to pay him whatever he wants or he will quit for a better paying club.



I agree with the hypothesis. however I disagree Kaka wants 15M from Milan. 1) the club would never do that nor are they able to; as far as I'm concerned 2) if he was after money he would have requested a move to Man City, he wouldn't have avoided it.

I'm just tossing out a hypothetical situation, zeddie. I'm not sure that, if I were Milan's board, I'd agree to a request from any player that would see him earning...basically 3x what any other player is earning. Not saying that's what's going on, just speculating on a possible situation.

Berlusconi: "Difficile impedire il suo addio"

"Hard to prevent this farewell"

I can see where that comes from Mr. Billionaire. the Arab Don has made an offer you can't refuse...

LOL to all these who keep saying Ricky wants all the money

Some things never change

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Blog: Kaka's curse[/b]

Usually a £107m transfer would have fans up in arms about mercenary players, but in Kaka’s case Susy Campanale pours scorn on the clubs
If Kaka signs for Manchester City, it will be a disaster for all concerned and for football as a whole. Not only will it make nouveau riche sides with bored rich owners think they can just come and buy up stars as if they were browsing the Louvre for something to hang in the hallway, but it would also cut 99 per cent of clubs out of the future transfer market. Paying anyone that sum of money is ludicrous, but City aren’t the real targets of my rage today. I am looking straight at Milan.

Kaka is not one of those players willing to throw a solid rapport away for the sake of cash. Regardless of how much City offered in wages, he would never demand a transfer for filthy lucre alone. He certainly wouldn’t go to Eastlands for the prestige of fighting against relegation and the hope of maybe in a few years qualifying for the Champions League. Even Ronaldinho turned them down! There is no reason on earth why Kaka would push for this transfer to go through. So why did Milan provide him with one?

In holding negotiations with Man City and letting him talk to the club, Milan have tacitly acknowledged they don’t really want him around. This, for someone who consistently rejected more tempting proposals from Real Madrid and Chelsea, must be heart-breaking. Ricky did not ask for any of this, but the Rossoneri have slapped him in the face, betraying all that talk of the side being “a family” the moment a new Brazilian walks through the door. Shame on you.

I understand many of you will point to the practicalities, the offer Milan cannot refuse, as with £107m they could rebuild an entirely new squad and begin a new era at San Siro with world class young talent. I heard similar statements at the time Andriy Shevchenko was sold for £30m and look how that turned out… Juventus could do it when they handed Zinedine Zidane to Real Madrid and used the cash for Gigi Buffon, Pavel Nedved and Lilian Thuram, but the Diavolo executives have shown they will always nibble stale bread in order to splash out on champagne.

Of course, Kaka doesn’t have to accept this step down – way down – in his career, but the way Milan have gone about this means the end is nigh. If he remains, then he will be fully aware the club no longer wants him despite his proven talent, work rate and loyalty. So come the summer when Real Madrid and Chelsea come knocking again, this time he’ll do what these sides always wanted and push the move through, presumably at a far lower price than Manchester City are currently offering. And, frankly, Milan will deserve it.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_ita...blogs/sc52.html

BREAKING NEWS: Berlusconi Confirms That He Will Sell Kaka


Kaka's move to Manchester City looks highly likely now after Don Silvio confirmed he will probably sell the Brazilian superstar...


Kaka has been associated with Manchester City for several months now, but over the past few days the chance of a blockbuster transfer has become more and more possible.

'Arabian Business' yesterday claimed that a deal had been sealed, which would see Manchester City pay Milan around €112 million, with Kaka earning €380,000 per week.

This front page story disappeared from www.arabianbusiness.com around an hour after first appearing, throwing talk of any confirmed move into severe doubt.

However, it seems that the transfer is now highly likely to take place after Milan President Silvio Berlusconi confirmed that he will probably sell the Brazilian.

"I will have to probably sell him," the Italian Prime Minister told La Stampa.

"City have made a really big offer to him, more than €15m after tax per year in wages.

"If i don't sell him then the balance of the team will go up in smoke. I risk losing him without earning anything from the deal. I just need to consider the fans and find a transfer hit...we'll see."

It remains to be seen how Milan fans will react to this news, especially as a large number of supporters took to the streets last night to protest against the transfer.

What is certain though is that Kaka is now highly likely to leave Milan for Manchester City.

Carlo Garganese

N.B : news from goal.com

That makes me want to puke.

I'm sure the tifosi will show their displeasure tonight and for many more games, although the ignorant money hungry whores in charge will blame everyone but themselves.

BTW I read a rumour that the management have been planning this since we signed R80.

Milan draw up £108m shopping list

As Kaka is pushed into accepting Eastlands, Milan are eyeing the likes of Emmanuel Adebayor and Michael Essien with their £108m bonus.

It is widely reported that the Rossoneri are the ones urging Kaka to make the January transfer to Manchester City, somewhat against the player’s wishes, as they want to cash in on this historic bid.

They are already drawing up a shopping list of where to spend the money and much of it will go to the Premier League.

Adebayor was in extensive negotiations with Milan in the summer before he opted to remain at Arsenal and the Italians went for Ronaldinho instead.

The 25-year-old Togo international would be available for around £30m, while Gunners teammate Gael Clichy is a bargain £12m.

The defence needs more restructuring than any other part of the team and Milan have already captured Thiago Silva – who won’t be available until the summer because of his non-EC status – and Felipe Mattioni.

In midfield Yoann Gourcuff will return from his loan spell at Bordeaux, having become a star of Ligue 1 during his time there.

As Gennaro Gattuso and Massimo Ambrosini are not getting any younger, it is believed another £30m bid for 26-year-old Chelsea man Essien is on the cards.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan17i.html
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So it isn't Kaka or his representatives pushing for the deal then? Silly me

Interesting comment from Berlusconi. An actual quote (found it in italian and goal.com actually got the translation right for once) from someone who (we assume) knows what's going on.

That was beutifully written, and the part about nibbling stale bread in order to pop open the champagne is a statement that hits the nail on the head.

Now lets see them open the San Siro and fire up the fireworks after this.

This whole thing is just making me want to puke. The fact that our golden boy is going to be pushed out of the back door by our management is disgusting.

If I were Kaka I would decline signing any contracts with Man City and then push for a way out to Real in the summer. The management have shown him complete disrespect during this whole saga, I would personally thoroughly enjoy it should he leave to Real in the summer for a much lesser sum. I know it would harm Milan but the management would deserve it after such greedy displays.

This coming from the people who pride themselves for being a family based club.

I'm hoping really hard that come tonight the curva will raise hell during the game, I'm pretty certain that Galliani won't even set foot in the stadium.

Oh so we're going to waste that money on cr@p players like Adebayour now? Good thinking there fester

there must be really a very serious attack from fans tonight to convince everyone !

What are you supporting voilence?

I belive in it.

I've read one comment on Mediaset.it
'I want Kaka's Milan. Not Beckham's'

This comment touches me...

Anyway, friends of Milan, the club, like Maldini, Altafini, Rivera all agreed it's a bitter moment. Loosing a star player draws consequences. After the Berlusconi comment, I'm sure it's done. It's sad to part with our very best midfielder for years. A big thankyou is unquestionable.

What can we do? Life goes on.

All i have to say is that this is a situation that we should not have come to. It's all on the management's heads. Should we struggle to make it to the CL or not even make it, we'll know who to blame.

Then we'll see who wants to come to a team that cannot even reach the top 4 and treats their players like garbage that only deserve to be pushed out the back door. If we don;t make the CL that money we get from the Kaka deal could used as toilet paper.

Next will be Pato....

Galliani and Berlusconi made Great Milan....fantastic Milan with lots of trophies< BUT....people remember them as those. who sold real love....

i think kaka have to score a goal tonight and kiss the ac milan budge then the fans will scream ... and i think have to proove in this game that he want to stay wid ac milan ...

Ronaldinho Begs Kaka To Stay At Milan

Ronaldinho is down on his knees, begging Kaka not to leave Milan for City...



Milan whiz Ronaldinho is begging Kaka to stay on at San Siro rather than sign a lucrative deal with Premier League side Manchester City.

'Dinho, who signed from Barcelona in the summer to link up with his Seleção teammate, is urging him to reject the Citizens. The Brazilian even insists that Kaka's move to City could end up costing his club plenty in terms of silverware.

He has issued one final call to Kaka asking him to stay, just as reports suggest Manchester City are on the verge of signing the Rossoneri midfielder in a deal worth over €150 million.

"Kaka, stay at Milan," Ronaldinho is quoted as saying in the Daily Star.

"Kaka's exit would be a disaster and we are desperate for him to stay so that we can win plenty of trophies.

"He is too important for us and he is the symbol of Milan. We want to get back into the Champions League and we need Kaka in order to do this."

For his part, Ronaldinho has been outstanding for Milan, but has been slapped with a three match ban in the Coppa Italia for his behaviour during the loss to Lazio last month.

Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com

I don't think it's treating them like garbage. It's just exaggeration. But be my guest. If you feel better, just scream - **** you, *******, garbage, sh@t, and call 'em names.

(EDIT: general statement, not adressed to you directly han - apologies if I made it look that way).

well this is just torture. nthey should just admit that they are moneyhungry B******s. Seriously.

I don't care who THEY are (whether its silvio/galliani or the kaka clan)

but they just are destroying the whole team with this BS.

I know you still stand on your pro management side, but I don;t understand how you could possibly still defend them after this. And yes they have treated Kaka like garbage, after he has done everything in the past to stay loyal to the club, even when we were involved in the whole calciopoli business and Real came knocking.

And now that an offer that they deam adequate has been recieved for him they don't find anything wrong with turning their back on the player and forcing him out to a club that he ABSOLUTELY does not want to join in exchange for money.

This is not what Kaka deserves after all he's done for the club. And like I said, I would greatly enjoy should Kaka refuse to sign for City then push his way out to Real in the summer for a lesser sum, I think that is something that our management should deserve after the way they've handled this. They talk about respect and values but they don't even know what either mean

I'm not pro-management. I'm just a realist.

Kaka is going away, I'm not a Milanfan because of him so I'm staying and chearing for Milan.
I think it was a mistake selling him, but that's were my responsibility and power ends. I don't live near berlusconi, so I can't drop by and say "you'r wrong with this one". And I'm not gonna loose my temeper either, cause it brings to nothing.

So, if the price of keeping Kaka were a 15m salary and discontent with the rest of the squad (which is how I read Berlusconi's statement), would it be worth it? That seems to me to be where Berlusconi isn't willing to go. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's at least understandable.

Okay so I know I have been a bit busy with my new job and all, so I haven't been on MF recently *sigh* (the net at all for that matter). But during this time I had heard the rumors about Kaka and ManCity, just thinking it was usual transfer BS. Or atleast that it would turn out the way it usually does, until people started asking me how I was taking the whole thing?
Completely confused and in disbelief I decided to come check up on what I had been missing out on in the past weeks.


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WHAT THE F*VK!!!!!!!!1

If Milan really sell Kaka, I would be GREATLY disappointed in them!

Please let this all just be games with the media.

I'm not saying I'm not going to cheer for Milan because at the end of the day they are the club I supprt. The management of the club is the problem here, like I said a million times, should they have turned down the offer like they have done in the past on multiple occasions then we would not be in this situation, plain and simple. It's as easy as that, the offer should have been rejected and none of these people would have come to play in this whole mess, Kaka has a contract with Milan, he's made it very obvious that he wants to stay.

What really angers me right now is the fact that he is being pushed out in exhange for money that cannot replace him in the team, both as a player and as a person, who I think is a great positive influence both in the dressing room and as a face of our team.


I think zd had the best response for your scenario Tennie. Kaka has a contract with Milan that should tie him down to 2013, that contract comes with a fixed salary that unles the club decides to renew the salary will stay as it is. Ad I'm pretty certain Kaka is not asking for that rediculous wage ammount, nor would he expect it, and the club would never offer to any player. He is happy with what he has with Milan which is a wage that is among the top in world football, fans who love him and well adjusted in the team.

Berlusconi is only saying what he wants people to here, he's not a billionaire and prime ministor for no good reason, he knows how to play with his words and feed people what he knows they want to hear.

If this had been rejected Kaka would have still been a Milan player with the same contract he has now, no bumper deals would have been made. And I;m pretty sure Kaka would not be expecting one. It's ridiculous to believe that selling Kaka would be for the good of the team, to me you're just picking at straws, trying to convince people of a positive in a sea of negative, a positive that doesn't even exist because this salary + team unrest is all BS.

Man City have no choice but to offer a player like Kaka that ammount of money because other then battling against relegation they have nothing else to offer him but the money.


Sadly it's not, if Milan sell Kaka it will not only be a disaster because we sell our best player, but it will be a disaster because everything that Milan stands for and what we love most about our club will be thrown down the drain along with my respect for the management.

I'm hoping so badly that the curva make their feelings known tonight.

I'm sorry, it's not. After Berlusconi's comment, it's almost a done deal. Get ready for one last goodbye later tonight. At least we know it wasn't the player who betrayed us. We betrayed ourselves. Now, get ready for some over hyped player like Adebayor to join us.

Berlusconi does not say that Kaka asked to leave unless they'd pay him as much as City offered. And of course he does not cause it would be a lie. Personally I will not believe whatever they tell us cause it's more than clear to me that Milan decided not to turn down the offer and let Kaka go when he would not have pushed to go.

The only question is do you think Milan did right or wrong to accept this massive offer?

My answer is not direct but it's quite clear; Milan are supporting a family image... but they also think that even a family has a price.

Don't think there's much proof of anything yet, either that he's being pushed out or that he's not asking for a big raise to stay. If someone can provide a quote, please do so. We're still working on a lot of speculation.

Am I gutted that he's almost certainly leaving? Yes.

Exactly

This is going to be one sad night. I was eagerly waiting for this game all week and now I'm dreading it, because I know that this will be the last time we see Kaka play in the Milan shirt.

Porti, I see you're on the board, please shead some of your wisdom on us. We're in desperate need of it right now.

Everything passes, everything wears out, everything breaks.
(tout passe, tout lasse, tout casse)
French Proverb

goal.com ran an article on this whole affair. Its titled "If Kaka Moves To Manchester City, Football Is Dead"

Its a powerful title and some of the stuff he says is true.



Link

the last comment of a man city fan is more interesting HAHAHAHAHA:



NOT_A_PLASTIC_FAN Manchester, England
lol look at all da foreigners saying dey are milan fans u r the death of football! plastic glory hunters like u all killed football by not going 4 your local club!


so LOCAL CLUBS are real football according to this fans words, BUT man city with SHEIKH now is NOT_A_PLASTIC_CLUB

Well, Kaka is our main player... However, we are AC Milan.

The problem throughout the world, as my dad says to me everyday, is management. The people who work in it are complete utter B******s.

There is one clear thing about this saga - Kaka' is being forced to walk the plank when he doesnt even want to.

All us Milanfans want tonight is a Kaka' goal and an emotional celebration to end this fuss once and for all!

I just can't swallow this. we didn't even let him choose his next destination! sold him for money like a piece of... product

Can't believe this is the club that brags about it's family ties. family my ***! it's history now, cause every saw their true colors.

Yep, like I previously said, I'm dreading tonight's game...

well

i hope you're all emotionally prepared

If Kaka leaves then the management sends a clear message that everyone in the squad is for sale if the price is right. Our management succumbing to the Lure of Money is something I thought would never happen. What was that BS about we don't sell our star players.

Well i think the message is quite clear now whether or not Kaka leaves.

Silvio coming out and making a "Bang for the buck" statement kinda took Milan in that direction.

Kaka



You left me longing for u

I am sorry, but this is unbelivable!!

WHAT THE HELL IS GOIN ON?

120 Mill Euro or whatever they are bidding, its just another step in an inflationary world where next year it will be broken by some other transfer.

Whats is the difference to all the rejected Real Madrid offers, as far asi recall, they offered up to 70plus million, and it was always said.. we sell only if he wants to go... and now?What some more money makes our management change their mind... and from what we have heard... its not even him who wants to go!! I became a Milan fan, because this team is different to others with treating players... the word family springs often to my mind. And now what? WHAT HAS CHANGED???? What am i not getting here? We are a RICH club, NOT A SELLING CLUB! Sheva was another case... but this is jeust ridiculous! Its not like berlusconi doesnt have a few billion euros!!!

I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANGRY! What do they think?

This deal includes something else... what do i know... OIL supply for Italy for the next 100 years may be... it just wont go into my head why they would sell a player like him, to a club like that, in the situation we are in, on his prime, with his influence, with his determination to Milan, with the fans love to him... IT JUST WONT GO INTO MY HEAD!!!

it is better to see SAN ZERO burning on fire tonight