Time will definitely tell what he is capable of...

Get him motivated and you will get your moneys worth and ALOT more. I have a positive feeling that Ronnie can be a good influence and otherwise Ibra can scare him into submission!

Borriello had his problems also prior to joining. I'm willing to give Robinho the same chance like every new player should be granted. After all Milan has a special effect on players even Real and especially City cannot provide.

exactly this.

Robinho's club career has been a mismanaged one, and a classic example of why if you are young, stay away from Madrid. They don't embrace their players until they've proven themselves. and if you're young, and amongst Galacticos, then how can you possibly succeed instantly (history repeating itself with Benzema currently?). He showed signs of breaking out (for Brazil he started becoming a protagonist off of his Copa America 07 performances, and his last season for the club he was 2nd in scoring and assists for the team, despite not playing consistently). But Madrid just used his rising stock to try and leverage a move for C-Ron. R9 is gone, so Robinho realizes the club he thought he was going to actually wasn't, and bounced anywhere he could.

Man City is also a cold place (pun intended - both the team camaraderie and weather matter for fun&sun-loving Robinho!). Sure, he had a huge price tag. But he lived up to it at first, hitting 15 goals on a mediocre team. Then next season, after an injury, without consistent playing time, he's criticized for not immediately banging in hattricks (expectation and criticism thank to his price-tag and media hype). Elano's gone. He doesn't see his future at Man City, wants out. He takes the English media wrap for being a problem-child, flop.

The truth is though, is that Robinho, a massively talented player, was at these clubs at a time when they were unstable, and not necessarily good incubators for his talents.

Santos is the only club where Robinho has felt like he was actually valued at the club, and has grown into his role there. and look how he performs there. For the Brazil NT, Robinho feels important, and excels, undisputedly so.

Milan represents the kind of environment that players like him rehabilitate in. Seedorf and Pirlo blossomed here after criticism. So did R99 pre-reinjury. Beckham fit in seamlessly and proved his worth after being written off. Ronaldinho's done the same.

Also, Robinho's arrival to this club is not a HUGE money situation. He was a bargain buy. He's 26/27, thinking about being the centerpiece superstar veteran of Brazil 2014. He's even more motivated than say a 29 yr old Ibra. Pato being here is all the more reason for Robinho to commit to the club. Dinho's proven he can be a hit at Milan if he follows his lead. Robinho knows that he's coming into a team where there won't necessarily be the intense, overbearing pressure on him to succeed immediately. Players always feel a sense of calm playing for us, unlike the stresses of Madrid and England.

If we are to maximize the potential of our 'cut price Galacticos', it'll be because of the AC Milan environment. It'll be because Allegri's nonchalant, pragmatic persona + shrewd tactics inspires confidence in our team. and players like Rino, Ambro, Dinho, Clarence, Nesta, Thiago, Antonini, Zambro (the core from the team that grew together last year) all lead by example - by continuing to play with hunger, not with entitlement like we did under Carlo.

If we keep the unity of the team, but turn up the intensity both vocally/physically (Rino, Ambro, Dinho, Clarence), Boateng's fiery hunger could feed into it, and Zlatan and Robinho will feel they have something to prove to Milan.

Exactly, which is why I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid of going crazy on cue over the arrivals of him and Ibra.

The main criticism was not that he was a child, it was more the fact that away from home he may as well have not turned up. At home he was great, scored a few hat-tricks and had some big games. Away from home he was just awful. He was an immediate target from the home fans and he never seemed to be able to cope with everyone being on his back and basically gave up trying in these games.

You think so Kurt? I do remember a few CL away games where he performed.

Kurt is talking about his Man City days.

At Real he had a very good final season, but like vnata said, Calderon was eager to push him out for C.Ron

Well, he's convinced me

Take the mod powers from Han and make vnata the new super mod!

Late entrant to this thread but the signing of Robinho is a brilliant one - on his day he's absolutely world class, and will suit Milan and Serie A down to the ground.

I was absolutely delighted when this signing was confirmed.

No doubting his talent. But it's a question of whether he'll put it to good use or not.

Atm, we have 4 world class players for 3 positions. Imo that's a great thing, but if they let their ego's get in the way or Allegri cannot handle them we'll have a problem on our hands.

All 4 being played together is out of the question. So Allegri needs to find a system, that will keep them all happy.

Robinho got 70
Ibrahimovic got 11

No Robinho news for a month?

I'll give the kid some love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhsAtfjip4o

Want to point out from the few minutes he's been on the pitch,he worked as hard as anyone,tracking back when he lost the ball vs Genoa and genuinely trying to link up with Ronaldinho even though the formation puts them on opposite sides of the pitch,no fancy stuff just trying to be as direct as can be.Hopefully with the formation change + more training sessions they'll build the kind of chemistry to produce the kind of play still in my imagination.

should have taken that 18m and bought srna.

Why?

because srna could do more damage on this team as a fullback than robinho can playing up front as a winger.


He'd also cost less aswell.

Srna for Robinho?? Blue, what drugs are you on?

watch srna play then you won't say that. He's one of the best fullbacks in the world.

I've seen him play many times, but I'd never swap him for Robinho. The guy isn't in his best condition yet, but the time will come and we'll forget about ever having this conversation.

I'm with Blue, I think Srna would be more usefull for our team.

Team has no width. None. Zero. Time to play a flat 4-4-1-1/4-5-1 with wingers. Seeing as how impotent our fullbacks are.

-------------------Ibra/Pippo---------------------
-----------Pato/Ibra-------------------------------
-R80/Rob--Ambro---Pirlo---KPB/Zee----Rob/Abate
---------------DEFENCE-----------------------------


Try man marking that piss ant Serie A sides!!!

We'd be disqualified. 12 men on the field just wouldn't fly with the ref!

Jack comes up with way too many weird formations. I knew it would eventually get to him.

It's a 3 man defence.


Wanted to see if you guys would miss out on it..the second time running. Guess everyone's not as high on acid..as well...acid!!

Yeah, well, when I saw this post yesterday, it came to my mind again. The 3-man defense thingy. If it was up to me, I'd stuff the mid and attack, and just put Paolo Maldini as a 1-man defense. He'll handle everything. And sub Nesta in if needed. Fantasy football at its best!

But you said in the same post "time to play a flat 4-4-1-1/4-5-1 with wingers".

You are a smart man....I already mentioned I was trying to get the 12 man thing past the members twice.

It's nice to know people actually read AND think about my posts.

That reminds me, some gay Italian TV star said there's a gay player in Juventus right now, playing somewhere between midfield and attack. But he also said there was a gay Milan player who doesn't play for Milan anymore. Could it be Kala?

Didn't he just have a kid? And any hints on the Juve guy?

Between midfield and attack, that's your hint. I'm thinking of Marchisio.

Being married and having kids doesn't hide the fact someone might be gay though. People do it in order to cover the fact they're not straight.

I suppose it doesn't but I just really can't stand the fact that someone would have a child just to hide who you really are. And you don't usually get a model to help you do that, isn't Kaladze's wife/girlfriend a model?

I don't think it's Kaladze. That would leave us to Dida, Favalli, Huntelaar or Borriello. I'd say it's Bori, maybe Dida.

Between attack and midfield? I'd say Quag.

But anyway,...

No can't be Bori. Neither Favalli or Dida. Maybe the Hunter?

Gilardino. And Pepe.

Hmh,...would make sense.

FISH!!!

But isn't this about someone who left this summer?

Nope. At least not the versions of the story I read (on mediaset and eurosport).

PS -- Penguins! Pushed anyone into the ice recently?

Not recently

Shoot, how did I not see this until now?! What say we make this happen!

Good point. If that means we will have a different attacker in the squad (because of depth) I'm with you. We really need a quality fullback.

Isn't Srna a midfielder? I want a natural FB. I'm not evn asking for Maicon or Alves, but at least someone who can do their jobs decently.

Zambrotta is good enough but can only play a certain ammount of games, and if Allegri is really serious about the 4-3-1-2 then we need better FBs when it comes to pushing forward

He can play both. It has been a while I've seen him play. But if he can play good as a rightback I'd have welcomed him. I really want us to play 4-3-1-2, and we really need to sign at least 1 fullback who is good in attacking.

He's a player of Maicon/ Alves style. Attacking RB but also knows how to defend.

Forget Srna, we should sign van der Wiel.

I would be happy with either one of them. Also with Gareth Bale or Fabio Coentrao for the LB.

I was really hoping for one of Srna, Karasic, or van der Wiel this season. Any one would have added new dimension to our squad, and truth be told we really need it.

van der Wiel is half the player Srna is and he never will be. Srna is a good RB, but his offensive capabilities are great.

The way you make him to be, Srna sounds like a top notch fullback. I wonder why he still plays at Shakhtar though.