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Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 3 2010, 05:31 PM) *
The way you make him to be, Srna sounds like a top notch fullback. I wonder why he still plays at Shakhtar though. rolleyes.gif

Maybe because he's the captain of the team and is loyal?

And on what basis is van der Wiel a top notch fullback? He's a great prospect, nothing more or less.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 3 2010, 05:59 PM) *
Maybe because he's the captain of the team and is loyal?

And on what basis is van der Wiel a top notch fullback? He's a great prospect, nothing more or less.


Yes, he's a great prospect, and that's what I think we should be looking for.
Fillipo Simone
I'd be more carefull for that department. Milan always used experienced fullbacks rather then just prospects.
Bluesummers
VDW? laugh.gif

He's so over hyped right now that he'll cost at least 20m when he's not even worth half of that.


Srna on the other hand is a fantastic fullback and is considered top 10 in the world and would come around 15-20m.



Prospects are great but this is Serie A and srna could easily give us 5-6 years of top notch football, while VDW we'll take at least 2 years to hit his peak.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 3 2010, 05:37 AM) *
Isn't Srna a midfielder? I want a natural FB. I'm not evn asking for Maicon or Alves, but at least someone who can do their jobs decently.

Zambrotta is good enough but can only play a certain ammount of games, and if Allegri is really serious about the 4-3-1-2 then we need better FBs when it comes to pushing forward


He's a weird player. He has fantastic attacking capabilities as well as defensive. He's pretty equal in both departments.
kurtsimonw
I can't say I've really seen him play much but left winger supreme, Steven Gerrard, made a mess of him at Wembley when we played.
Linkman
Then again it is Steven Gerrard. If the kid's young, it's understandable.
kurtsimonw
Gerrard is a crap left winger and Srna is pushing 30.
Fillipo Simone
Well, that's one match Kurt. I've seen almost everyone getting owned by someone once. Srna is quality, I'm sure of it.
mkenya
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 3 2010, 12:43 PM) *
He can play both. It has been a while I've seen him play. But if he can play good as a rightback I'd have welcomed him. I really want us to play 4-3-1-2, and we really need to sign at least 1 fullback who is good in attacking.



How about trying boateng as full back? I think he can make good runs..
Fillipo Simone
I don't think so. It sounds even worse then Abate. Flamini would be my pick.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 4 2010, 11:53 AM) *
I don't think so. It sounds even worse then Abate. Flamini would be my pick.

Flamini can't cross though. Plus he's really not a FB. I want someone who's naturally one. No more wingers playing there, top teams have at least FBs good enough to do their jobs, we lack that on both sides imo. Anatonini and Zambrotta both have their cons, 1 of them because he's getting older while Anatonini is playing with his weaker foot
X-Offender
I got the feeling a new FB is coming in January. Just a hunch.
Fillipo Simone
Oh gee, that would be something! But a real one, not some kind of kid-loan-deal from Brazil like Mattioli.
Jack Sparrow
Ahem..Mattioni! dry.gif
Bluesummers
Montelongo was our new fb.
Jack Sparrow
Really? That's why he's played the grand total of 0 league matches. tongue.gif

Any way of finding out what's the story on that kid Bruno?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 6 2010, 07:19 AM) *
Really? That's why he's played the grand total of 0 league matches. tongue.gif

Any way of finding out what's the story on that kid Bruno?


The same story of Grimi, Cardacio, Viudez, Mattioni and co.
Jack Sparrow
Well that's a worst case scenario...but otherwise? I mean I don't put out the possibility that Milan has decided that Bruno won't amount to much...as a result of which these rumours being spread out are just to hike his price when he does get sold.

But he's been playing with the reserves and all right? Someone must have seen him play..and the reserve coach might have talked about his performance..
X-Offender
Dude, if he really was Milan material, he'd be a sure starter by now.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 6 2010, 02:02 PM) *
Dude, if he really was Milan material, he'd be a sure starter by now.

So true. We really don't have stellar FBs. It would be understandable if we had Maicon and A. Cole to get past. But come on! We all know the kid is another useless S. American transfer and that he'll end up going back to where he came from or loaned out
Fillipo Simone
Man, the chance he missed against Bari are simply unbelivable! I don't know how to use him anymore, I mean, how much good could he bring against much better teams like Roma or Inter??

Han's telling Pippo misses 8 out of 9 chances, but this guy...the Bari game isn't just an isolated chase, he's all season long wasting pretty much everything he gets. And also creates very very little. What a flop.
acid911
I'm with you Fillipo. sad.gif Robin's performances have been little more than average up till now. B- from me.
William405
I can give him more time,some players need seasons to adopt to the serie A.His finishing hasn't been top notch lately,he was much better when I saw him with Brazil
acid911
But he's always better when he is with Brazil, William. sleep.gif I have rarely seen him translate that form to the club scene. Looks like we got ourselves another Podolski. Yes, give him more time, but I just hope is up for the challenge, we did spend good money to get him here.
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 9 2010, 07:22 PM) *
But he's always better when he is with Brazil, William. sleep.gif I have rarely seen him translate that form to the club scene. Looks like we got ourselves another Podolski. Yes, give him more time, but I just hope is up for the challenge, we did spend good money to get him here.

Well it's only been a few months...

His overall performances imo have been good, he gets into good positions, knows how to run into space, imo far better then Pato, who seems to get stuck on the wing. The finishing however has been p!ss poor. Hopefully it's just form related.
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 9 2010, 07:56 PM) *
His overall performances imo have been good, he gets into good positions, knows how to run into space, imo far better then Pato, who seems to get stuck on the wing. The finishing however has been p!ss poor. Hopefully it's just form related.


Exactly. The guy only lacks concentration in front of goal. His misses against Bari were disgraceful and hard to believe for a player of his caliber, but I'm pretty sure he'll get back on track and score some goals. I still blindly believe in him.
acid911
Oh well, can't say I disagree. smile.gif However, I am of the view that we should probably have brought Paloschi back and invested the 18 or so million for Robinho on say two players that we actually needed. You know spend 10 on one player, and 8 on another. Or heck, throw in another few and get someone else.

I love Brazilian football and a lot of players from there, but this guy never cut it for me since the first time I saw him. unsure.gif For me he never had that prime quality that players before him (who wore the numbers 9 and 10) had. Now that he is here, though, I want him to do well, for the club's sake.

PS. X, his misses against Bari were hard to believe, not disgraceful. sleep.gif The one he missed in the CL game was!
TriniKing_CE
What about the supposedly 'sure' to be goal against Palermo that he screwed up for Zlatan with a short pass. mellow.gif

That was rather umm... unexpected at a professional level. blink.gif mad.gif

(Shameful really - Oh well hopefully he just needs some time and confidence)

End this post on this note 'Robinho! - Shape up!! OR Ship OUT!!!'
X-Offender
The guy seems to have forgotten how to kick a ball. He tried his best not score the third goal, shooting it directly to Sirigu, who for our luck couldn't stop it properly.
acid911
Agreed, guys. sad.gif He got two nice goals, missed a mouthful of chances, and well the way he passed (or tried to pass that to Ibra) is what is the real concern here. Robinho is taking things very easy here, there is no intensity in his game. That's not good at all.
Dracoris
He also needs a new celebration.
Jack Sparrow
^^I found this funny!!! biggrin.gif

acid911
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Nov 11 2010, 10:07 AM) *
He also needs a new celebration.

Boy you can say that again! dry.gif laugh.gif Worst celebration ever. One of the worst, yeah!
Jack Sparrow
And Ibra still couldn't resist aiming a taekwondo kick at 'pregnant Robinho'. biggrin.gif

Zed.D
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 10 2010, 03:10 AM) *
Exactly. The guy only lacks concentration in front of goal. His misses against Bari were disgraceful and hard to believe for a player of his caliber, but I'm pretty sure he'll get back on track and score some goals. I still blindly believe in him.

Do you take pride in that? unsure.gif

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 11 2010, 04:35 AM) *
The guy seems to have forgotten how to kick a ball. He tried his best not score the third goal, shooting it directly to Sirigu, who for our luck couldn't stop it properly.

I'm not sure but it looked to me like his shot was going out! in which case it was a Sirigu OG laugh.gif
Fillipo Simone
I don't know, but Robinho has serious problems. I hope that goal gives him confidence, even if it isn't exactly the issue. His attitude is.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 11 2010, 03:29 PM) *
I don't know, but Robinho has serious problems. I hope that goal gives him confidence, even if it isn't exactly the issue. His attitude is.

I actually think his main issue is his finishing, hopefully that one (easy) goal creates a magic difference in his finishing.
Fillipo Simone
Finishing - yes. But the attitude problem is connected. Against Bari he already missed a 100% chance when he tried out a dip shot while in fact he could have normally scored. That tells you he had no remorse for the missed oppotunites before.
CHU-LIP
Oh, I see. Now I am following you better. You might have a point, but still IMO it can't be just attitude. He really shoots awful this season. Let's hope it's temperary, because it's an important thing for his playing position.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Nov 11 2010, 02:22 PM) *
Do you take pride in that? unsure.gif


I've wanted Robinho at Milan for a very long time, because I've always admired him as a player. So there's no point for me to stop believing in him now that we finally got him.
Suhail 3
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 11 2010, 02:46 PM) *
I've wanted Robinho at Milan for a very long time, because I've always admired him as a player. So there's no point for me to stop believing in him now that we finally got him.

aye and hes only what 25-26 has alot of qualities especially his pace and creativity, always get in them positions. At the very least he has more of a future at milan than dinho
han2503
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Nov 11 2010, 05:24 PM) *
aye and hes only what 25-26 has alot of qualities especially his pace and creativity, always get in them positions. At the very least he has more of a future at milan than dinho

Completely different thing, Robinho is in his prime years while Dinho is in the twilight. Robinho for all that talent won't ever reach the heights that Dinho or other Brazilians have. And I'm talking about Brazilians who have tried really hard to f@ck up their careers at every possible opportunity they got.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, etc ruined themselves, Ronaldo more so, but they only let that happen after they had achieved absolutely everything they could in their careers, Robinho has achieved half that and is already seeming to be resting on his laurels. I watch him for Club and Country and he seems to have a mental block when it comes to the do or die moments
Jack Sparrow
I'm telling you. Change Milan's jersey to yellow..and watch him win 3 Golden Balls in a row. biggrin.gif
Ry4n
He's just plain lazy and has a careless attitude and in Serie A you have to take your chances as defences in this league are very tight you might not get another you have to be one of not wasting opportunities especially at Bari oh and the lack luster pass to Ibra for that would have capped of a good night for Ibra. Hes a great player and im happy hes at Milan but get your butt in gear your still young alot still too win !!!!
Ry4n
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 12 2010, 10:17 AM) *
I'm telling you. Change Milan's jersey to yellow..and watch him win 3 Golden Balls in a row. biggrin.gif

laugh.gif +100
nuh
Robinho is really starting to jell in here
Rossoneri7
Any update on the extent of his injury ?
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 3 2011, 03:07 AM) *
Any update on the extent of his injury ?

I haven't seen anything as yet.
il_diavolo_mtl
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