QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 26 2011, 12:24 AM) 
HAPPY 27th BIRTHDAY ROBINHO!!!
He's 27 already?
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He's 27 already?
QUOTE (amancik @ Jan 25 2011, 06:52 PM)
He's 27 already?
I myself thought he was older, thinking about the teams he's gone to and left already.
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 25 2011, 07:13 PM)
I myself thought he was older, thinking about the teams he's gone to and left already.
Well, he's done that on regular basis so it made you think he's older...
Translation agencies. You gotta love them.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 26 2011, 07:41 PM)
Translation agencies. You gotta love them.
What?
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 27 2011, 12:47 AM)
What?
Well there was a spam post here (that was rightly deleted) cleverly advertising "Translation Agencies".
As you can see from the screenshot below, on-topic yes, but spam nonetheless, hence X-Off's comment. Lookie, lookie:
Oh, that makes sense now. Thankyou!
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 27 2011, 01:20 AM)
Oh, that makes sense now. Thankyou!
Nothing to it.
I too get an urge to reply some witty comments every time I see a spammer, but it really is a futile exercise, some are human spammers but most are bots. And frankly I hate them. They are a waste of bandwidth and human cells. If you want to promote yourself, you can actively participate in the community and maybe put your website URL in your signature.But troubling other members (and more importantly the moderators of a particular forum) is just not on!
Ah I deleted that clown, sorry for the confusion!
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Jan 27 2011, 03:36 AM)
Ah I deleted that clown, sorry for the confusion!
Haha, in fact we should be thanking you for the job well done.
Love the way you clean house, in fact, your secondary nick name should be: Terminators Are Brilliant. These clowns deserve capital punishment (well almost, capital punishment).There are a few spammers here, but at various other (particularly tech) forums I frequent there's an army of them!
QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 27 2011, 02:53 AM)
Haha, in fact we should be thanking you for the job well done. Love the way you clean house, in fact, your secondary nick name should be: Terminators Are Brilliant. These clowns deserve capital punishment (well almost, capital punishment).
There are a few spammers here, but at various other (particularly tech) forums I frequent there's an army of them!
Love the way you clean house, in fact, your secondary nick name should be: Terminators Are Brilliant. These clowns deserve capital punishment (well almost, capital punishment).There are a few spammers here, but at various other (particularly tech) forums I frequent there's an army of them!
It's the high class moderators on this forum
So true! I am sure football spammers are a dime a dozen, so good job all round keeping things maintained.
I am sure football spammers are a dime a dozen, so good job all round keeping things maintained.
I'm sorry to repeat myself over and over again, but this man really isn't Milan quality. His work rate is very good, but what is it worth for when his finishing is at Serie B level? Sorry, but Milan cannot count on him in long term relations with such performances. God saved us against Inter with a brilliant Pato, but such chance wasting in a derby match against Inter should be inexcusable.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 4 2011, 05:20 PM)
I'm sorry to repeat myself over and over again, but this man really isn't Milan quality. His work rate is very good, but what is it worth for when his finishing is at Serie B level? Sorry, but Milan cannot count on him in long term relations with such performances. God saved us against Inter with a brilliant Pato, but such chance wasting in a derby match against Inter should be inexcusable.
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If there is a silver lining to the whole Robinho being useless at basic aiming. Allegri called him out on it publically on being so wasteful after the derby. It's good to see Allegri settling down as coach and calling out some of the bigger name players.
He's not Milan quality simply because his finishing sucks? That's something that can be fixed with basic training. It's the qualities of the player that matter.
Basic training? He's 27 I assume he has had some basic training by now...
It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!
It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!
+1. I think in some ways he's still that young kid from Santos. Even the stubble can't hide his babyface.
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 5 2011, 02:44 PM)
Basic training? He's 27 I assume he has had some basic training by now...
Classic dst.
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 5 2011, 02:44 PM)
It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!
+2.
If the guy can't finish maybe he should try to set more goals up most of the time he gets a chance. If we put this type of finishing up against United, Barca, Madrid, and friends, we are going to get hit hard where it hurts like no other.
QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 5 2011, 01:49 PM)
+2. If the guy can't finish maybe he should try to set more goals up most of the time he gets a chance. If we put this type of finishing up against United, Barca, Madrid, and friends, we are going to get hit hard where it hurts like no other.
If the guy can't finish maybe he should try to set more goals up most of the time he gets a chance. If we put this type of finishing up against United, Barca, Madrid, and friends, we are going to get hit hard where it hurts like no other.But he won't be our main striker... Pato or Zlatan should be... for example look at the derby last weekend... he makes our team better and also Pato who more likely will score... look: two goals vs Inter... with Robinho, and Boateng as AM... and earlier... I loved our Zlatan + Robinho attack, again one main striker and Robinho being the other... not three forwards, no, just two... problem kinda having both Pato and Zlatan, while I only want one to play... when both play Pato won't be the main striker and he won't be as good as he can be... maybe Zlatan should leave in Summer since I prefer to keep Pato, and sign a forward who either doesn't necessary has to start or can play a supporting role like Robinho (also)... there is more you need than scoring abilities, and that's what Robinho offers.
In CL (since you mention those teams) I hoped we played with Pato and Robinho up front, and no Zlatan, who fails in CL anyway... I believe we would have been better with Pato as our main striker in CL supported by Robinho (and Boateng)... look at Spurs, two games, zero goals... and we played with both Pato and Zlatan, our two goalscoring players and not so little, shows there is more needed than scoring, and also Robinho played, we played with three forwards, no goals though... no, three forwards not necessary means more goals... are you reading this, han? Addiction to my previous post in Fiorentina match thread.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 4 2011, 09:38 PM)
He's not Milan quality simply because his finishing sucks? That's something that can be fixed with basic training. It's the qualities of the player that matter.
Like not taking basic training seriously for a year...
i hate how people get bedazzled by his dribbles and ignore other, more vital aspects of a striker.
But he isn't a striker. For lack of a better word, he seems to be our attacking water-carrier. I'm gonna patent this term. I think in the next 10 years this will become a crucial position. Like how the deep lying playmaker became big over the last decade.
I'm gonna patent this term. I think in the next 10 years this will become a crucial position. Like how the deep lying playmaker became big over the last decade.
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 5 2011, 05:36 PM)
But he won't be our main striker... Pato or Zlatan should be... for example look at the derby last weekend... he makes our team better and also Pato who more likely will score... look: two goals vs Inter... with Robinho, and Boateng as AM... and earlier... I loved our Zlatan + Robinho attack, again one main striker and Robinho being the other... not three forwards, no, just two... problem kinda having both Pato and Zlatan, while I only want one to play... when both play Pato won't be the main striker and he won't be as good as he can be... maybe Zlatan should leave in Summer since I prefer to keep Pato, and sign a forward who either doesn't necessary has to start or can play a supporting role like Robinho (also)... there is more you need than scoring abilities, and that's what Robinho offers.
In CL (since you mention those teams) I hoped we played with Pato and Robinho up front, and no Zlatan, who fails in CL anyway... I believe we would have been better with Pato as our main striker in CL supported by Robinho (and Boateng)... look at Spurs, two games, zero goals... and we played with both Pato and Zlatan, our two goalscoring players and not so little, shows there is more needed than scoring, and also Robinho played, we played with three forwards, no goals though... no, three forwards not necessary means more goals... are you reading this, han? Addiction to my previous post in Fiorentina match thread.
In CL (since you mention those teams) I hoped we played with Pato and Robinho up front, and no Zlatan, who fails in CL anyway... I believe we would have been better with Pato as our main striker in CL supported by Robinho (and Boateng)... look at Spurs, two games, zero goals... and we played with both Pato and Zlatan, our two goalscoring players and not so little, shows there is more needed than scoring, and also Robinho played, we played with three forwards, no goals though... no, three forwards not necessary means more goals... are you reading this, han? Addiction to my previous post in Fiorentina match thread.
Can't say I agree with all of them, but fair enough points.
I personally consider the guy a forward, a part of the attack, if not an all out striker. And if he has an opportunity to score then he should. Just like when R80 was here, I can count a whole bunch of chances that he could have put in if he took the shot. But oh well.
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I personally consider the guy a forward, a part of the attack, if not an all out striker. And if he has an opportunity to score then he should.
Exactly. I don't think just because "he's not a striker" it means it's justified when he screws up all those 1on1's. I think the fact he finds himself all alone in front of the goal so many times only means that he is a striker and should put them in more than he does.
Agreed, Zed. 
It's the job of our attacking three to score goals, the midfielders can help if they can, but that is not something that is required of them. Few would blame if KPB, Seedorf, Flamini, Bommel, Pirlo and others can't score, but if either of Pato, Ibra or Robinho are going t miss, then fingers will be raised and pointed.
It's the job of our attacking three to score goals, the midfielders can help if they can, but that is not something that is required of them. Few would blame if KPB, Seedorf, Flamini, Bommel, Pirlo and others can't score, but if either of Pato, Ibra or Robinho are going t miss, then fingers will be raised and pointed.
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 5 2011, 11:44 AM)
Basic training? He's 27 I assume he has had some basic training by now...
It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!
It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!
Well, his finishing hasn't been so bad in the past. He's always known how to score. It's just this period with Milan that he's lost some of that spark. Personally, I think Robinho is capable of much more than what we've seen of him so far.
Yeah, but he's gotta move fast now. It's not like he's 19 anymore.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 6 2011, 04:05 PM)
Well, his finishing hasn't been so bad in the past. He's always known how to score. It's just this period with Milan that he's lost some of that spark. Personally, I think Robinho is capable of much more than what we've seen of him so far.
I agree .. Robinho seems to lack confidence when faced with the goal, he had misfired more shots that he had scored by a huge margin .. That said, he is an important tactical player .. He moves into channels, opens space for his team-mates, brings the midfield into the attacking-fold on most occasions, has understood Italian football in just his first season, and most importantly he keeps on going forward with confidence despite him squandering dozens of chances.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 5 2011, 02:09 PM)
+1. I think in some ways he's still that young kid from Santos. Even the stubble can't hide his babyface.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:32 AM)
I agree .. Robinho seems to lack confidence when faced with the goal, he had misfired more shots that he had scored by a huge margin .. That said, he is an important tactical player .. He moves into channels, opens space for his team-mates, brings the midfield into the attacking-fold on most occasions, has understood Italian football in just his first season, and most importantly he keeps on going forward with confidence despite him squandering dozens of chances.
Agreed. Eto'o was nowhere near as devastating last season with Inter as he's been this season. He scored only 16 goals in 47 games. I think Robinho has adapted very well to Italian football. By next season, I expect him to return the world class player we admired in Madrid and Brazil.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 7 2011, 05:41 PM)
Agreed. Eto'o was nowhere near as devastating last season with Inter as he's been this season. He scored only 16 goals in 47 games.
Didn't Eto'o play quite a bit wide on the wing? Or was that for international level. I've genuinely forgot.
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Apr 7 2011, 08:43 PM)
Didn't Eto'o play quite a bit wide on the wing? Or was that for international level. I've genuinely forgot.
He did, yes.
Indeed. Not a good example for comparison.
Oh, and he hasn't been playing wide this season? The position matters little. It's the form that counts. The dynamism and agility that Eto'o has this season was nowhere to be seen last season. He needed time to adapt. Same argument for Robinho.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 8 2011, 12:44 AM)
Oh, and he hasn't been playing wide this season? The position matters little. It's the form that counts. The dynamism and agility that Eto'o has this season was nowhere to be seen last season. He needed time to adapt. Same argument for Robinho.
But the when Pato comes along, position matters again, right?
I don't agree with you because Eto'o wasn't that poor in finishing last season, he never had that kind of basic problems. And anyway, even if it is just a question of adaptation, I hope he does it soon because it eventually will grow into a mental problem.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 8 2011, 12:44 AM)
Oh, and he hasn't been playing wide this season? The position matters little. It's the form that counts.
I was just asking, I'm not against Robinho and I was when we first got him. I think he offers us something that our other players don't (no jokes about missing open goals etc..!).
Though, I would say the position matters if we are talking about goalscoring credentials.
I just brought up the argument of the goals to strengthen my point, don't take it as primary evidence. My point is that we should give Robinho some more time before we give a proper judgment on his capabilities. Like Eto'o has become Inter's leader this season, Robinho could turn into a very important player for us next season. Including his finishing getting better.
Agreed. But my only fear is that there is a massive gap between Eto'o and Robinho. One is a proven winner and a total douche, the other is just a total douche. In case this hasn't been evident from my posts, it's all in the brain when it comes to Robinho IMO - there is no doubting his talent or his drive/spirit that he displayed this past few months. As much as he has done and run for us this season, it only takes a few bad weeks for players like Robinho to fall off the tracks.
Fingers crossed nothing like this happens anytime soon, and if it doesn't, then we could be in for a good year or two!
But my only fear is that there is a massive gap between Eto'o and Robinho. One is a proven winner and a total douche, the other is just a total douche. In case this hasn't been evident from my posts, it's all in the brain when it comes to Robinho IMO - there is no doubting his talent or his drive/spirit that he displayed this past few months. As much as he has done and run for us this season, it only takes a few bad weeks for players like Robinho to fall off the tracks.Fingers crossed nothing like this happens anytime soon, and if it doesn't, then we could be in for a good year or two!
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 8 2011, 04:27 PM)
I just brought up the argument of the goals to strengthen my point, don't take it as primary evidence. My point is that we should give Robinho some more time before we give a proper judgment on his capabilities. Like Eto'o has become Inter's leader this season, Robinho could turn into a very important player for us next season. Including his finishing getting better.
Robinho is a very important player for us already this season.
It's unfair to compare Robinho to Eto'o, surely when it comes to finishing. Eto'o is maybe the best striker there is and he is a great goalscorer which is Robinho's weakness, but he has got many great other strengths which makes him a great supporting striker. Unfortunality people only cares for goals when looking at a forward, but fail to see the importance Robinho has got in making Milan a strong team with a strong attack. I care for the team, therefore I want Robinho (to stay) at Milan.
Cut your hair.
awwww ^^ thats cute
Robinho and Urby both have Twitter now if you want to follow them.
@Urby28 and @OficialRobinho
@Urby28 and @OficialRobinho
haha very cute.
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Robinho: ‘Milan love Brazilians’
By Football Italia staff
Friday November 25 2011
Robinho has declared that his current period with Milan is the happiest of his six-year spell in European football.
The Brazilian gave a full and honest interview to Brazilian football website globoesporte.com this week, during which he discussed various topics ranging from his departures from Real Madrid and Manchester City to his dedication to the Brazilian national team. The player began, though, with a glowing account of his current situation at San Siro and of the club’s love for Brazilian footballers.
“I feel at home in Milan. I’m going through a really good time. It is a club that loves Brazilians and treats us very well. I am adapting more and more, I am very happy here.
“In Madrid it was very good too. It is an excellent club and Spanish football is easier to adapt to for a Brazilian player. But there was jealousy during my time there for my trips abroad with Brazil.
“Here it is different, they treat us superbly. Even in Manchester it was good, but the field was very different. English football has a lot of strength and it is complicated for a Brazilian footballer to adapt to it. Even more so for one who plays up front like me.
“In Milan there are only good things. They love Brazilians and always speak well of those that have passed through here. There is this love, this openness from the beginning. I did not expect it was that good.
“To date, there has been much talk of Kaka, Serginho, Dida, Cafu, even of Ronaldo who made more history at Inter, he is highly regarded here. Now we are making our history.
“Of course, when a Brazilian player sits on the bench they get very upset still, but it is part of life, it is normal in football.”
The 27-year-old discussed how he feels he has developed as a footballer since arriving in Europe in 2005 and whether the perception that he has become a more tactical player is correct.
“I think I have changed the way I play. Today I prefer to shoot at goal than try a stepover. But without losing the joy, of course. That is something we must always have. European football has taught me to play more for the team and a little less for the individual.”
The player was asked if he had any regrets for past decisions made in his time with Real Madrid and Manchester City.
“In Madrid I wanted to leave for being dissatisfied with the club, which was not valuing me as I wanted at the time. But I ended up going to a club which is quite difficult to adapt to as a Brazilian.
“Even today if I was to ever leave [Milan] I do not know if I would choose City, with all due respect to the club. The question is more England itself, which is a country that is not so good for my football. I do not regret having left it.
“I do regret the way I left Madrid though, fighting. That was not good for my image, or towards the club. Now I am happy. In Milan, I play and have been helpful to the team. This is most important.”
The No 70 then left an interesting side-comment with regards his current happiness at San Siro.
“Of course, in football things change very fast. A guy might get two or three months on the bench and think ‘oh, I want to make la Seleção, I want to play’ and already they are thinking about returning to Brazil. For now though, I am happy.”
Robinho also took time to press home his commitment to the national team. With kind words for Ronaldinho, Kaka and Adriano, Robinho put himself amongst them in terms of experience he believes is still important for Brazil going forward.
With 90 caps to his name, the attacker also refused to rule out offering that experience to younger players at the Olympics next summer, which incidentally run into the middle of August and pre-season for Milan.
“Everything that is related to Brazil I am all for. I think when a player is called he has to go, this is our country. You must have the will, joy and desire to play.
“I do not know the will of the Coach, if he wants to pick me. So I believe that for the Olympics, no. But I will prepare myself as if I am going to be called up. The Seleção is always important.”
Robinho finished the interview with a reflection on if he will ever be crowned the best in the world by FIFA.
“This will always be a dream, but it is not an obsession. If I am not the best in the world, I cannot feel frustrated by it. I will always work for myself and always want the best.
“If it happens, great. If not, I’ll continue playing my football. There are many players who have not won this award and are marked in history. It is a dream that I hope to accomplish.”
By Football Italia staff
Friday November 25 2011
Robinho has declared that his current period with Milan is the happiest of his six-year spell in European football.
The Brazilian gave a full and honest interview to Brazilian football website globoesporte.com this week, during which he discussed various topics ranging from his departures from Real Madrid and Manchester City to his dedication to the Brazilian national team. The player began, though, with a glowing account of his current situation at San Siro and of the club’s love for Brazilian footballers.
“I feel at home in Milan. I’m going through a really good time. It is a club that loves Brazilians and treats us very well. I am adapting more and more, I am very happy here.
“In Madrid it was very good too. It is an excellent club and Spanish football is easier to adapt to for a Brazilian player. But there was jealousy during my time there for my trips abroad with Brazil.
“Here it is different, they treat us superbly. Even in Manchester it was good, but the field was very different. English football has a lot of strength and it is complicated for a Brazilian footballer to adapt to it. Even more so for one who plays up front like me.
“In Milan there are only good things. They love Brazilians and always speak well of those that have passed through here. There is this love, this openness from the beginning. I did not expect it was that good.
“To date, there has been much talk of Kaka, Serginho, Dida, Cafu, even of Ronaldo who made more history at Inter, he is highly regarded here. Now we are making our history.
“Of course, when a Brazilian player sits on the bench they get very upset still, but it is part of life, it is normal in football.”
The 27-year-old discussed how he feels he has developed as a footballer since arriving in Europe in 2005 and whether the perception that he has become a more tactical player is correct.
“I think I have changed the way I play. Today I prefer to shoot at goal than try a stepover. But without losing the joy, of course. That is something we must always have. European football has taught me to play more for the team and a little less for the individual.”
The player was asked if he had any regrets for past decisions made in his time with Real Madrid and Manchester City.
“In Madrid I wanted to leave for being dissatisfied with the club, which was not valuing me as I wanted at the time. But I ended up going to a club which is quite difficult to adapt to as a Brazilian.
“Even today if I was to ever leave [Milan] I do not know if I would choose City, with all due respect to the club. The question is more England itself, which is a country that is not so good for my football. I do not regret having left it.
“I do regret the way I left Madrid though, fighting. That was not good for my image, or towards the club. Now I am happy. In Milan, I play and have been helpful to the team. This is most important.”
The No 70 then left an interesting side-comment with regards his current happiness at San Siro.
“Of course, in football things change very fast. A guy might get two or three months on the bench and think ‘oh, I want to make la Seleção, I want to play’ and already they are thinking about returning to Brazil. For now though, I am happy.”
Robinho also took time to press home his commitment to the national team. With kind words for Ronaldinho, Kaka and Adriano, Robinho put himself amongst them in terms of experience he believes is still important for Brazil going forward.
With 90 caps to his name, the attacker also refused to rule out offering that experience to younger players at the Olympics next summer, which incidentally run into the middle of August and pre-season for Milan.
“Everything that is related to Brazil I am all for. I think when a player is called he has to go, this is our country. You must have the will, joy and desire to play.
“I do not know the will of the Coach, if he wants to pick me. So I believe that for the Olympics, no. But I will prepare myself as if I am going to be called up. The Seleção is always important.”
Robinho finished the interview with a reflection on if he will ever be crowned the best in the world by FIFA.
“This will always be a dream, but it is not an obsession. If I am not the best in the world, I cannot feel frustrated by it. I will always work for myself and always want the best.
“If it happens, great. If not, I’ll continue playing my football. There are many players who have not won this award and are marked in history. It is a dream that I hope to accomplish.”
Link: http://www.football-italia.net/node/13198
the minute tevez puts pen to paper for Milan, is the minute robinho's last season at milan is announced.
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Dec 22 2011, 05:02 PM)
the minute tevez puts pen to paper for Milan, is the minute robinho's last season at milan is announced.
Or maybe Pato's.
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