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CHU-LIP
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 18 2012, 03:54 PM) *
Robinho has changed his jersey number to 7, which was available after Pato took Inzaghi's 9.

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acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 23 2012, 07:02 PM) *
I hope he can. The Robinho we've seen against Arsenal would be nothing but welcome in the future here at Milan.

And he didn't. mellow.gif Didn't take long for him to return to basic mediocrity and overall averageness.
Fillipo Simone
Maybe the change of number triggers a more important change of mind.
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 18 2012, 03:54 PM) *
Robinho has changed his jersey number to 7, which was available after Pato took Inzaghi's 9.


YES!

It's funny, but I sent a message via Twitter to Robinho a few days ago suggesting him to take the #7 shirt now that it's free. Maybe it worked. biggrin.gif
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 19 2012, 04:17 PM) *
YES!

It's funny, but I sent a message via Twitter to Robinho a few days ago suggesting him to take the #7 shirt now that it's free. Maybe it worked. biggrin.gif

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LOL !!!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 19 2012, 10:17 AM) *
YES!

It's funny, but I sent a message via Twitter to Robinho a few days ago suggesting him to take the #7 shirt now that it's free. Maybe it worked. biggrin.gif

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X-Offender
Robinho will be out for 3-4 weeks.

Source: Mediaset

han2503
Grrrreat!!!!!!!

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servbot
At least one thing this season is consistent with Milan of past seasons - a long injury list!
X-Offender
QUOTE (servbot @ Aug 28 2012, 06:57 PM) *
At least one thing this season is consistent with Milan of past seasons - a long injury list!


Abate, Ambrosini, Muntari, Dídac, Strasser, Robinho, Pato. Only one match through the season so far.
dst
I think it's about time we sold that hell of a training ground and move elsewhere (if we can do that for the money RM got for theirs we're saved too!)... surely, it must be in San Siro-like condition, there's no other explanation!
Fillipo Simone
Ha! Funny. Seems like Robinho crashed his car and caused a small incident.



Source
Jack Sparrow
He was driving a Q7? You could fit 11 Robinhos into a Q7. Give him De Sciglio's Polo! (Thanks X-Off!) wink.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 17 2012, 06:47 PM) *
He was driving a Q7? You could fit 11 Robinhos into a Q7. Give him De Sciglio's Polo! (Thanks X-Off!) wink.gif


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X-Offender
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“We have presented a written offer, though there is a difference between what the player and the club are asking for.


Come on you f@ckers, just offer 8-10 million and you'll get free shipping as well.
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 12 2012, 12:45 AM) *
Come on you f@ckers, just offer 8-10 million and you'll get free shipping as well.

They can smell our desperation so they will be trying to lower the price.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Dec 12 2012, 12:45 AM) *
They can smell our desperation so they will be trying to lower the price.


'Our desperation' as in the desperation of the fans, cause Galliani keeps saying that Robinho will stay.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 11 2012, 11:40 PM) *
'Our desperation' as in the desperation of the fans, cause Galliani keeps saying that Robinho will stay.

Only to try and get the highest offer imo

I say hold out for around 15m, if they're clamming up at it jump at 10m
Fillipo Simone
To be honest, I wouldn't sell him out for peanuts, just to get rid of him. If the tag doesn't suit us, keep him. Because I don't see us getting a better/more suited player as a replacement anyway.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 12 2012, 09:37 AM) *
To be honest, I wouldn't sell him out for peanuts, just to get rid of him. If the tag doesn't suit us, keep him. Because I don't see us getting a better/more suited player as a replacement anyway.

Sort of feel the same way, but if we're going to get 1 or 2 players in the window we need a bit of a cash injection and only Robinho could provide that.

How much do you think we'll get for Traore, Mesbah, Flamini, anf the other dead weight we have?

We'll be lucky to scrape around 8 to 10m for all of them
Jack Sparrow
Our problem is the wages. We have I reckon at least 25 million to spend on transfer fees and still fall within the FFP rules. But the wages at the moment are still on the higher side. At the moment, the only person in our top ten wage earners truly earning his keep is Montolivo.

Here are our top 10 wage earners:

#1: Mexes - €4,000,000
#2: Robinho - €4,000,000
#3: Pato - €4,000,000
#4: Montolivo - €3,500,000
#5: De Jong - €3,000,000
#6: Pazzini - €2,700,000
#7: Boateng - €2,500,000
#8: Abate - €2,000,000
#9: Bonera - €2,000,000
#10: Bojan - €1,500,000

We have 3 bonafide bench warmers, 1 bloke who doesn't play at all. And then there's Robinho and Mexes who have not really carried the team as much as they should.

This is the tragedy here. Not to mention like Galliani said 32 players is WAY too much. At least 6 players too many.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 12 2012, 10:45 AM) *
Our problem is the wages. We have I reckon at least 25 million to spend on transfer fees and still fall within the FFP rules. But the wages at the moment are still on the higher side. At the moment, the only person in our top ten wage earners truly earning his keep is Montolivo.

Here are our top 10 wage earners:

#1: Mexes - €4,000,000
#2: Robinho - €4,000,000
#3: Pato - €4,000,000
#4: Montolivo - €3,500,000
#5: De Jong - €3,000,000
#6: Pazzini - €2,700,000
#7: Boateng - €2,500,000
#8: Abate - €2,000,000
#9: Bonera - €2,000,000
#10: Bojan - €1,500,000

We have 3 bonafide bench warmers, 1 bloke who doesn't play at all. And then there's Robinho and Mexes who have not really carried the team as much as they should.

This is the tragedy here. Not to mention like Galliani said 32 players is WAY too much. At least 6 players too many.

Bonera and Pazzini certainly overpaid. The rest are pretty fair though going by what is normally paid in football these days. Pato seems high because he's injured 99% of the time, but I don't know what can be done right now about it. Selling him would be beyond stupid as we would get a higher sum for Robinho at this point. I think a contract extension is the best move, give him more time, allow him to relax a bit and not feel like he's constantly on the chopping block, but offer him a slightly reduced wage, 3 to 3.5m should do the trick. Pato knows that the club is disappointed about the injuries as much as he is. Thus they're giving him the trust and confidence that will help him but at a more reasonable price.

Getting Robinho off that list will help a lot though plus reducing the number of players will also help in this. All these players who don't even get called to the bench are draining us every season and it is a big load to carry.
kurtsimonw
50k a week for Pazzini is about right. The very best make 100k +, very good players make 80k + so I think 50 for him is fine.

De Jong is overpaid. He's not a great DM, so to be earning over 50K a week is insane. I'd say everyone above Pazzo is overpaid to be honest.
han2503
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 12 2012, 02:23 PM) *
50k a week for Pazzini is about right. The very best make 100k +, very good players make 80k + so I think 50 for him is fine.

De Jong is overpaid. He's not a great DM, so to be earning over 50K a week is insane. I'd say everyone above Pazzo is overpaid to be honest.

He's earning more than Boateng! Says enough really.

How much was De Jong earning at City? Because these things have to be considered, and for the contribution he's given so far, terrible injury aside, I say it's about right.

You also have to consider that last season bench warmers were earning higher than that
Ry4n
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 12 2012, 06:23 PM) *
50k a week for Pazzini is about right. The very best make 100k +, very good players make 80k + so I think 50 for him is fine.

De Jong is overpaid. He's not a great DM, so to be earning over 50K a week is insane. I'd say everyone above Pazzo is overpaid to be honest.

I can imagine what payrolls the city players are on compared to ours probably in a different league all together.
kurtsimonw
Yaya Toure £250,000 a week...
Jack Sparrow
Not to go off topic too much, but I just read that Arsenal have a wage bill of 177 million Euros a year! :wack0: What're they paying for?!!
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 12 2012, 04:13 PM) *
Not to go off topic too much, but I just read that Arsenal have a wage bill of 177 million Euros a year! :wack0: What're they paying for?!!

Don't they have a wage cap?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 12 2012, 11:37 AM) *
To be honest, I wouldn't sell him out for peanuts, just to get rid of him. If the tag doesn't suit us, keep him. Because I don't see us getting a better/more suited player as a replacement anyway.


I think about €10 million for Robinho would be fair. Not to mention we'd also get rid of his wages.
Fillipo Simone
Yes, the wage problem is a big one. Jack mentions Galliani's plans for reduction - but we cannot do this unless we don't solve our injury problem. This "big team" was created after all mostly because of permanent injuries - we always have at least 2-3 crucial players falling off the list for months.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 12 2012, 11:23 AM) *
Yes, the wage problem is a big one. Jack mentions Galliani's plans for reduction - but we cannot do this unless we don't solve our injury problem. This "big team" was created after all mostly because of permanent injuries - we always have at least 2-3 crucial players falling off the list for months.


Great point. The management ought to speak and act with more perspective. Otherwise we are just going in circles here.
Jack Bauer
Raiola: "Milan have taken Robinho off the transfer market. He could extend his contract with Milan."

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kurtsimonw
Oh Jesus Christ.
X-Offender
Contract extension? No effing way! mad.gif
Fillipo Simone
???
Jack Bauer
Robinho expecting Milan stay

good one.
acid911
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ May 10 2013, 01:00 AM) *
good one.

Great one, even. sad.gif Make it happen, Galliani, make it happen you idiota!
X-Offender
Too bad he fell from grace so soon. He's "only" 29, but he can barely cut it against Serie B sides. Go to Brazil, that's the only place you can shine.
il_diavolo_mtl
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Robinho’s transfer saga is far from over and is quickly turning into a soap-opera. The latest development sees a bunch of contradictory statements released by Santos’ president and the Robinho camp.

Interviewed by Rádio Bandeirantes, Santos’ president had said that “The decision is final unless something changes from the other side. Milan have asked for a very reasonable figure, something less than €6m. However Robinho wants to earn an amount that is impractical for any Brazilian football club”.
The comments of the Santos President infuriated Robinho’s camp who in their own words, ‘Broke the gentleman’s agreement‘ to keep the details private and released a tell all account of the negotiations.
“Firstly, it is not true that Milan have agreed to a price of less than €6m. A representative of Robinho has always been the intermediary between Santos and Milan (Since a club,even one the size of Santos FC did not send any representative at any time to negotiate for the player.) The amount requested from Milan, although reasonable, was much higher than this.”
“We asked Milan who confirmed to us that they had no intention of reducing their price. Robinho has agreed to reduce his current salary by 35% in an attempt to return to Santos. If you include benefits and salaries, Robinho earns much more than what Santos proposed. Not proposed… Because there was never any concrete proposal.”
“According to the Santos President Robinho’s salary demands are ‘impractical for any Brazilian Club’. Let’s clarify some very important points.”
“For the last year and a half, the board of Santos has been trying to re-sign Robinho.”
“For the last year and a half, mostly through the Chairman, the Board of Santos has asked Robinho to help this ‘operation’ become a success so that the board can ‘meet the demands of the fans’.”
“For the last year and a half, the Santos board has been aware of the wages earned by Robinho. They knew that they’d have to seek extra funds to pay his salary.”
“For the last year and a half, the Santos board has asked for help in trying to convince Milan to accept a bid for Robinho. Only at the request of the player did Milan agree to this sale.”
“For the last year and a half, the Santos board is hoping that Milan would lower the price they want for the player.”
“For the last year and a half, since the Santos board showed interest in signing Robinho, he has not paid attention to any other offers from Brazil & abroad, choosing Santos exclusively.”
“Since the opening of the transfer window, the Santos board have expressed their desire to sign Robinho (and made long phone calls to the player, his representatives and even requested meetings with the player while he was on vacation), yet have failed to submit a written proposal to AC Milan. They only sent queries via third parties.”
“Now, after a year and a half of not making any effort or proper planning, the Santos President comes out and says that it’s all Robinho’s fault ?”
“Robinho has another year left on his contract with AC Milan and has received many offers from other teams to earn even more than he currently does. Even before dealing with Santos, he had the opportunity to renew with Milan itself.”
“The leadership of Santos had only one objective, how much is Robinho asking and how can they lower that..In figures, Robinho already gave up 35% of his current salary, per year, to return to play for Santos FC.”
“Not to mention, the permission he gave Santos for the use of his image for advertising campaigns (Currently exclusively his).Santos intended to pay a part of his salary using his own image rights (In effect, the player would be working extra just to pay his own salary). How many players would give up that amount every year ?”
“For journalists and fans who are calling Robinho a Mercenary, Would you would give up 30% or 35% of your current salary to go work for Santos FC or anywhere else? Would the President of Santos do that ?”
“Do not forget that the career of a football player is very short. Robinho will not be earning this salary for the rest of his life. He has perhaps 5, 6 and if no serious injury occur, maybe 10 years left in his career. He also has the obligation to maintain his wife, children, parents and dozens of family members(Do not forget that Robinho comes from an extremely poor family).”
“If by some misfortune, Robinho experience any problems or gets into financial difficulty, then who will sustain his home and his family ? The President of Santos? The Santos board ?”
“Unfortunately this is the strategy of the current directors of Santos: put the blame on the player. It was the same case when they tried to sign Ze Roberto,Nilmar, Deivid etc. Even With Ganso and Elano, the board of Santos did the same thing as they are trying to do now with Robinho. Began leaking requests from players, invented lies and always put the press and the fans against the players.”
“Just to remind the current Santos board and those who love to talk badly and have little memory- Robinho on his departure from Santos FC made them a profit of more than R$70m. He does not deserve to be treated like this.”
“Anyway, this statement is on behalf of Robinho who, like most humans, has reached his limit to silently tolerate such foolishness and injustice.”
“We apologize to the fans of Santos on behalf of Robinho. Unfortunately, it is totally impossible to reopen any negotiations for his return to Santos with the current leadership. However, Robinho continues to have the same affection and respect for Santos and the fans.”
acid911
Robinho camp. sleep.gif Now, I've heard everything!
Bluesummers
He's right, I agree with him. He's already reducing his salary alot, going to a sh*t league. Being treated like a mercenary is just too much. He could go play in turkey earn more than he does here and still be treated like a star.


IMO the decision for me would be easy.
han2503
It seems that Monaco might be interested in a double deal for him and Antonini.

Could dreams really come true???
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 14 2013, 09:15 PM) *
It seems that Monaco might be interested in a double deal for him and Antonini.

Could dreams really come true???


I only read about Antonini. Source?
X-Offender
Anyway, if Robinho is definitely staying, my only wish is that he trains hard this month and a half to least be in good shape when the season starts.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jul 14 2013, 03:29 PM) *

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X-Offender
It's just a rumor, not need to get so excited. huh.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 14 2013, 03:15 PM) *
It seems that Monaco might be interested in a double deal for him and Antonini.

Could dreams really come true???

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TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 14 2013, 03:44 PM) *
It's just a rumor, not need to get so excited. huh.gif

Just the idea of getting rid of this guy enough for me to celebrate.

Don't burst my bubble!
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