In the last three matches he started (this and Gijon), we gave up six while scoring one.

On a more serious note, I read on Devilsmania that this is the first time we've started a Serie A season at 0-2. Is this true?

I was reading somewhere else (Football Italia maybe?) that the last time this happened was the early months of Berlusconi's purchase of the club. Nils Liedholm was the manager at the time, and was sacked six or so matches before the end of the season

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Milan deserves better. If we don't deserve Dida, how on God's good earth do we deserve someone like Abbiati, who never was a first choice anyway. Funny how people seem to forgive him for every goal he lets in. Unless he improves and steps it up a notch, I'd have a hard time seeing his bald head in between the posts.

Second choice. Always was. Bah!

*imitates Lawrence Welk* Tank you, tank you.

hahahaha perfect result. Couldn't have wanted more. I'm so very happy we lost this and hope we continue losing until carlo gets sacked because our tactics are too perdictable, we always use the same style of play and hope it works and if one of the players isn't on form (kaka), we dont have an attack.

This week's training is going to be very interesting. My guess is that next weeks game is carlo's last. Galliani's face was priceless.

well done to genoa. Kaka should not have started and pato should have. xmas tree is no longer a usuable formation for us. WE have used it to overkill.

What are you people talking about? you're so unfair towards Abbiati. yesterday he made about two or three great saves to stop a total embarrassment. the result could've been even worse. besides, he hasn't been at fault on any of the goals we've conceded in Serie A so far. the last player we could blame for these defeats is Abbiati...



Coincidence? of course, Nesta is out injured and Maldini is simply not up to the task anymore. we're conceding cheap goals one after another.

I pretty much agree with you there, zd. We've conceeded 4 and I can't think of any that Abbiati should have saved. The only downside of Abbiati is that he doesn't have the ability to be a match saver, he isn't going to make any great saves.

I've said it b4, no question about what Maldini has done in the past and what he represents for Milan. The fact is he's old and should not feature any more, the club has to grow. The same applies for Sheva, his time is up! Same for Seedorf!! Until Milan gets rid of the old guard, am not expecting anything much.

I'll be surprised if we win the Scudetto, I'll be happy with top four finish. UEFA? I think we'll go down the same road as Bayern last year...

That is so true, if it wasnt for him it wouldve been MUCH worse

Agreed.

I feel slightly safer with him in goal, it's just our defence that's the main issue.

Safer is a relative word.

After Settling Down, Here's My Opinion:

The Loss itself can't be blamed On Ancelotti.
Part Of It? Yes.
The Tactics didn't seem right, and the formation wasn't right.

It's obvious that we lack things.
Determination and the eager for me seem no where near enough.
Most of the players are just playing.
When You play for a Club like Milan you can't just play, You Have to put your spirit into your playing, be eager, and try your fucking best.
Something I only saw in couple of players.

The Whole Kaka attacking, seems very ridiculous to me since there is no way you can blame him.
Obviously he felt pain in his knees, and he was no where near match fitness.
There I blame our MilanLab and Ancelotti.

Talking about the players performance, It's not that they didn't perform(eventhough most were playing like I do) there was something missing.
The connection between the players. It's like each one was playing for himself.
No Team Work, No Effort. There was no link between the Defense-Midfield and the Midfield-Offense.

Eventhough Ancelotti could have maybe avoided a loss, with some Better tactics, better formation, and bringing the great out of each player.

I still believe the ones that need thier head-chopped are the ones in charge.
Berlusconi and Galliani.
This whole **** playing we have been doing is blamed on our very negative Transfer Campaign.

Before Ancelotti's head needs to be chopped, We need new owners. Or atleast those can change thier minds a little bit.

Credit For Ambrosini for trying his best.
There was no way he was gonna do it alone.

Boriello played a good match.

I truly Believe, That Ancelotti should resign before he kills his whole fu*** career, And the Career of some of our Players.


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Perhaps. But let's be honest, if Dida had given up those goals against Bologna and Genoa, he'd be getting it left and right.

Oh well, it's only a matter of time before Abbiati has his annual five-goal stinker.

Dida wouldn't have started the next match, Kalac would have been called up. Everyone's been praising Abbiati, but from what little I've seen of him, he doesn't deserve any where near to be our first choice (neither does our other keepers, to be fair, based on form and fitness). In all the matches I've seen with him in between posts, he's never seemed like we'll win a match solely because of him, our crappy defense and all.

Like zd said, saved us from total embarrassment, but never stepped us to win us a match. Even the giant (Kalac) did save our skin against Fiorentina last summer. I'm not being unfair to him, for the sake of the club I want him to do well. Heck, everybody including Dida and Kalac want him to do well. If not, we'd be looking at UEFA Cup next summer too. Which is almost as bad as going to Serie B. I wish we just sold two of our keepers, get one the caliber of Frey and above, and one a young won as backup.

But like they say, if wishes were fishes, I'd probably have been Brad Pitt. Best of luck for the match against Lazio!

I don't think so. people criticized Dida only when he made blunders. Abbiati hasn't conceded one of those goals yet. not only Dida wouldn't have saved those, but Buffon, Casillas, etc. only Dida might have save the second Bologna goal, but that's it. Abbiati hasn't been at fault for any of the goals, the defense was.

I think It'd be better for Dida if he replaced Abbiati between the sticks when Abbiati really messed it up. that would give Dida a psychological edge and he'd do better compared to when Abbiati is dropped for no real reason, i.e. unfairly. if you think Abbiati will start conceding stupid goals soon, fine. many miss Dida, especially his new looks.

+1 excellent i agree with ya man. Abbiati played well but it was just not maldini's day.

Agreed.

Maldini's performances of late make me realise why players retire while they're still of a decent level. But Paolo really hasn't been good enough for a while, last season he was poor and his games this season he's ben even worse. Always going to be a legend, but a shame his reputation will be somewhat tarnished and the most recent memories will be of poor displays and mistakes.

When Nesta comes back Maldini will probably sit on the bench. until that day, I would use Maldini in the left, where he still plays better, and Kaladze-Bonera (or Bonera-Senderos), in the center back. Carlo and Galliani and co reportedly had a meeting yesterday. I'd be really surprised if they didn't discuss Maldini's recent performances in that meeting, I'd be even more surprised if in the next game I see Maldini in defense again.

(How about Bonera-Darmian in the center? The kid deserves a shot.)

I'd prefer Darmian-Kaladze. Since Darmian's youthful enthusiasm makes up for Kaladze's lapses in concentration. And I think Kaladze is a better marshal than the all action Bonera.

(Carlo Ancelotti)

How can anyone prefer any formation Kaladze is in? I'd rather see Ambrosini as a CB!

Darmian would not come in and solve anything... It's not just one player... Carletto has lost control over his squad... They take the field with no clue, no plan, some of them literally don't even know each other...

Milan is in need of a new leader... Someone who can take control... Someone who the players OBEY. Someone that can make the players FIGHT WITH EVERYTHING they got. Someone that can make a unit of a defense that frankly is not the best in the world. Someone who can inject confidence into the young players. Someone who is NOT PREDICTABLE. Someone with FRESH IDEAS. Someone with VISION. Someone who dares bench ANYONE he wants. Someone who will request and insist on buying certain players until he gets them.

Carletto was once all that. But now is time for the next man to the take the lead.

*applauds*

*Bowing Down*

Great post Max.

But question is, who are we going to get that fits that criteria on such short notice,? Even if we wait until June it would be hard to get someone like that, Rijkaard and Donadoni are certainly not that. We had the chance to get a coach that fits that bill this summer but we lost him to Inter. That should say it all regarding our management

+1

But who's available. I think if we wait long enough Juande Ramos might be fired. And don't get started on Spalletti and Prandelli. Prandelli is set to be the Wenger of Serie A who's not afraid to spend money. While Spalletti is I think gonna stay on for at least a couple of more seasons.

Maybe Novellino, he's a former Milan player after all.

I keep hearing the same thing... But... but... Max... Who are we gonna bring?

Well, that's where I think we are gonna have to accept the trade off. Someone with strong leadership and good vision, but not very experienced.

Does this trade off includes bringing in someone not Milanista or Italian? If so, where do I sign up? That's our only hope after missing out on somebody like Mourinho. Surely, there are other coaches available who're not from the Milan family, but could turn out as good attacking leaders.

N-A-M-E-S!!!! Gimme gimme gimme!!


Oh, if not a former Milanista, I'd have Laudrup...

Not necessarily. The trade off being strong leadership but not much experience. Names? I don't know, that's for the management to figure out.

^^^
You want to throw 'An end to Global Warming' on that list... I mean how can you have strong leadership without experience. It would work on a small team. But a large team filled with superstars are not gonna listen to some newbie coach just coz he talks tough. Heck some of those b@st@rds in Madrid gave a f@ck all about Capello.

I think the answer is obvious: Franklin Rijkaard!

I'm ready to bet he'll be our next coach, only if we decide to replace Carlo while Frank's still jobless and has not already signed for another club.

Mario Beretta!

Has worked miracles with quite a few teams now (most notable being avoiding relegation with poor Parma and Siena teams)

And he is a Milanista!

^ He's a Milan fan? He's from Milan but has never played for us.

I know he hasnt played for us, but is a known fan

Ok, known even to me now, thanks