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dst
Rafinha is Brazil's best today.

Now a free-kick in a good position for Brazil. Let's see if Ronaldinho can net it!
misha
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 19 2008, 05:19 PM) *
Done.

Rossoneri7
The post !!! mad.gif

dst
Ronadlinho hits the post from the fee-kick then Pato scores but he's offside!
misha
So close!!
Portman
At the post.
misha
I smell a comeback smile.gif
Portman
The bad thing is that, no mather the result, Pato and Ronaldinho still have to play next Friday the match for the 3rd place.
acid911
Argentina doing what they do best. sad.gif Defend.
acid911
QUOTE (Portikins @ Aug 19 2008, 07:25 PM) *
The bad thing is that, no mather the result, Pato and Ronaldinho still have to play next Friday the match for the 3rd place.

Exactly. dry.gif If they had to stay there, I'd have preferred an appearance in the final. There is still time, but 2 goals behind is always 2 goals behind.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Portikins @ Aug 19 2008, 03:25 PM) *
The bad thing is that, no mather the result, Pato and Ronaldinho still have to play next Friday the match for the 3rd place.

that sucks so much
daj0
Its not looking good... dam Dunga...why leave the duck out for so long? F*** a duck!
Rossoneri7
Brazil have been drilled in this half, a penalty for Argentina
Rossoneri7
Riquelme converts dry.gif
misha
If I'm Dunga, I'd stay in China for a few weeks. Just in case guntootsmiley2.gif

Red card to Lucas
Il Capitano
R80 is walking around the pitch and he isn't trying to do sh*t.
dst
Leiva has been Brazil's worst in this game, deserved red card.

Messi should be substituted, he's been killed out there...
acid911
3-0. Okay, that's enough for me. sad.gif

Brazil's defense is a joke. Like always. The only thing that keeps them from becoming absolute world beaters. At least I'll know who to cheer for in the final. Nigeria all the way for me. dry.gif Go Africa!
dst
laugh.gif Another red card.
Rossoneri7
And Brazil two red cards, is the cherry on the cake innocent.gif
misha
Another red and this time to Neves. Brazil is just acting brutal
Tennie
Gosh, the Brazilians must really be mad. 2 reds in a matter of minutes?
acid911
Dunga is a duck. mad.gif A dead one at that.
dst
QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 19 2008, 05:41 PM) *
Brazil's defense is a joke. Like always. The only thing that keeps them from becoming absolute world beaters.

Yeah cause they have been working miracles in attack...

The two red cards is Brazil's total humiliation...

Dunga might have learned that you should not play defensive football with these players at your disposal.

Messi now almost with the 4th.
Mook
Both times it was Mascherano too. laugh.gif
Il Capitano
QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 19 2008, 03:44 PM) *
Dunga is a duck. mad.gif A dead one at that.

Don't insult the ducks wink.gif
acid911
Alright then. cry.gif Cutting off the steam in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
dst
QUOTE (Mook @ Aug 19 2008, 05:46 PM) *
Both times it was Mascherano too. laugh.gif

Yeah, he was beaten heavily!
Bruno should have been shown a red card too. He had a yellow and he conceded the penalty which means another yellow...

QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Aug 19 2008, 05:46 PM) *
Don't insult the ducks wink.gif

tongue.gif
Giancarlo
QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Aug 19 2008, 03:40 PM) *
R80 is walking around the pitch and he isn't trying to do sh*t.


After how Dunga treated Pato maybe he doesn't care.

I frankly wouldn't either. Pato should have started. Sobis is rubbish... and I've been watching this debacle. Hopefully the two will be happy to come to a team where they are respected.

I do hope Nigeria destroys Argentina like they destroyed Belgium.
dst
FT 3-0 for Argentina! happy.gif

Messi - Ronaldinho hug! smile.gif
acid911
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 19 2008, 07:46 PM) *
Yeah cause they have been working miracles in attack...

If the defense holds up, the attack can always score if they have it in them. unsure.gif If it's the other way round, then no matter how many goals you score, you always concede at the back. What good is that? Of course, like you said, Brazil's attack in this match wasn't anything to write home about either.

Dunga will get what he deserves in the papers tomorrow. dry.gif He's more than crap.
Il Capitano
Atleast we don't have to worry about our players returning late now.
acid911
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 19 2008, 07:50 PM) *
I do hope Nigeria destroys Argentina like they destroyed Belgium.

+1000. sad.gif If they play their fast game, then no reason why Nigeria can't pull it off. It will be good for their team and country to get the gold.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 19 2008, 02:52 PM) *
If the defense holds up, the attack can always score if they have it in them. unsure.gif If it's the other way round, then no matter how many goals you score, you always concede at the back. What good is that? Of course, like you said, Brazil's attack in this match wasn't anything to write home about either.

Dunga will get what he deserves in the papers tomorrow. dry.gif He's more than crap.


He had more than his share of attacking players, and he had the choice to play Pato as a starter but he didn't. They are going to slam him for that. And I think Ronaldinho is more motivated with Pato on the pitch than anyone else. Dunga should have known that. Shame on him.

I hope Dunga gets what's coming to him.

Yes, and it will be great for Nigeria to do that to get the gold. Best wishes to them.
dst
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 19 2008, 05:50 PM) *
After how Dunga treated Pato maybe he doesn't care.

Ronaldnho was crap because Pato was left on the bench? That's stupid. There's no chance that's true and if it was it would just be funny...
acid911
QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Aug 19 2008, 07:52 PM) *
Atleast we don't have to worry about our players returning late now.

Um, we do. There still is a small matter of the third place playoffs. dry.gif This Friday. It's about as late as it gets.
acid911
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 19 2008, 07:53 PM) *
I hope Dunga gets what's coming to him.

I hope too, but I sense he'll get away with it. dry.gif Just like in the past. Brazil hasn't been lighting the world on fire since the time he's become coach.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 19 2008, 03:54 PM) *
Um, we do. There still is a small matter of the third place playoffs. dry.gif This Friday. It's about as late as it gets.


I think we will have to do without them for the first game against Bologna, but they'll be back in time for everything else. I bet Barcelona is furious right now more than we are.
Portman
Were the brazillian players brutal on Mascherano? I don't think so.
I mean, in Serie A those would be yellows, never cards.

If those were brutal, what are the ones from Matrix?
acid911
QUOTE (Portikins @ Aug 19 2008, 07:55 PM) *
Were the brazillian players brutal on Mascherano? I don't think so.
I mean, in Serie A those would be yellows, never cards.

If those were brutal, what are the ones from Matrix?

Glad someone noticed. cool.gif The Argentine players were flying on the slightest touches as if they were doing shooting for 'The Matrix 4'. Of course, before anyone says it, tackles from behind are never a good thing. And I understand that. But red for them is uncalled for, unless they cut off their legs.
Portman
This is brutal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKvbQ3nt-M

The brazillians deserved the red card. It's in the rules.
But Mascherano made a meal of it too.
Rossoneri7
On route to the first goal ... Argentina completed 2 passes uninterrupted, straight to goal.
Giancarlo
The Nigerians I'm sure won't play nice either. They have been perhaps more physical then anyone else. I hope Argentina takes a beating... I can't stand their players or their arrogance..

Anyways, there was another article saying that Milan is after Thiago Silva... I believe he sat on the bench this entire game...

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug19g.html

Would have he been better capable to deal with Argentina?
Zed.D
Aguero's 1st goal was handball.
Pato's goal was NOT offside. (I need to see both of these again though)

In short, the refereeing was scandalous (not to mention those two reds which I think could be yellows, especially the first one - but hell, Argies are the best when it comes to simulating).

That all said, Argies deserved to reach the final... they were better! and I'm happy this could be the beginning of the end of Dunga's spell. that fvcker.

All in all, Brazil's weakest link was its midfield. they just don't feed the attackers... they really lacked a Kaka.

QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 19 2008, 06:31 PM) *
In this match? He kept the ball glued to his feet and ran circles around 3-4 Brazilian defenders. cool.gif In other news, he's scored some goals that are out of this world. Getting tagged Braca number 10 at his age isn't the work of humans either.

In short: Amazing, amazing talent. smile.gif


Yeah, explosive. shame he plays for those losers who can't win anything better than the Olympics or U18 World Cups.
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 19 2008, 08:07 PM) *
Yeah, explosive. shame he plays for those losers who can't win anything better than the Olympics or U18 World Cups.

True. True.
dst
QUOTE (Portikins @ Aug 19 2008, 05:55 PM) *
Were the brazillian players brutal on Mascherano? I don't think so.
I mean, in Serie A those would be yellows, never cards.

If those were brutal, what are the ones from Matrix?

The ref was in my opinion right to show red in those two incidents because the Brazilians went right on Mascherano out of frustration and with no intention to take the ball...
It would not change a thing (if it was a yellow) anyway...

QUOTE (Portikins @ Aug 19 2008, 06:02 PM) *
This is brutal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKvbQ3nt-M

The brazillians deserved the red card. It's in the rules.
But Mascherano made a meal of it too.

That's not brutal, that's a 5 month ban. Or should be...

Exactly, the ref was maybe too harsh but by the rule both tackles deserved a red card.

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 19 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Aguero's 1st goal was handball.
Pato's goal was NOT offside. (I need to see both of these again though)

In short, the refereeing was scandalous (not to mention those two reds which I think could be yellows, especially the first one - but hell, Argies are the best when it comes to simulating).

That all said, Argies deserved to reach the final... they were better! and I'm happy this could be the beginning of the end of Dunga's spell. that fvcker.

All in all, Brazil's weakest link was its midfield. they just don't feed the attackers... they really lacked a Kaka.

Yeah, explosive. shame he plays for those losers who can't win anything better than the Olympics or U18 World Cups.

I need to see those two again too but I think you're wrong.

The refereeing was scandalous? Come on pal, relax... the officiating was good. Argies are the best in simulating? Again, relax, you are acting like a sore loser. Name one player that would take a knock from behind and would not try to have his opponent punished by crying out loud on the ground... (don't try, everyone would do it)

Brazil were playing with 10 men... Ronaldinho did nothing at all...

You mean the 2 time WC winners and 14 time Copa American winners? Yeah, true losers...

PS I can't believe I'm defending Argentina...
Giancarlo
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 19 2008, 03:27 PM) *
The refereeing was scandalous? Come on pal, relax... the officiating was good. Argies are the best in simulating? Again, relax, you are acting like a sore loser. Name one player that would take a knock from behind and would not try to have his opponent punished by crying out loud on the ground... (don't try, everyone would do it)


Na. I thought the refereeing was a bit questionable too, as it has been throughout this "tournament". When he says he thinks Argentina are losers it's because Argentina doesn't perform in big tournaments anymore, and was destroyed in that last Copa America final by a 2nd string Brazil side.

In fact Argentina has not actually won a Copa America since 1993. The last world cup it won was in 1986. Brazil on the other hand... they won the 1994 and 2002 World cup, as well as the 1997, 1999, 2004, and 2007 Copa Americas. Beating Argentina twice in the last two finals of that tournament.

Argentina also has choked in the last few world cups since 1994.
Zed.D
As far as I know the rules, that's not offside. (notice where Pato's right foot and that Argie's left foot are...)

Stupid ref. that goal could have change the course of the match. this wasn't more dubious than Aguero's handball.

dst
Even if the ref was favoring Argentina (which I don't believe is true) they should not complain that much cause they were heavily favored against Belgium and Cameroon themselves...

Well true it's been quite a while since they last won something but... I don't think it's fair to call them losers...

They did better than Brazil in the last World Cup though... if they did not have a stupid coach they could have been in the final too...
Giancarlo
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 19 2008, 04:40 PM) *
Even if the ref was favoring Argentina (which I don't believe is true) they should not complain that much cause they were heavily favored against Belgium and Cameroon themselves...


The referees should try to be as objective as possible not favoring anyone and in this tournament they did. I think Brazil's goal getting counted as off-side (when it was not) frustrated Brazil and frustrated its players. I think the refereeing was at least biased against Brazil and Italy in this tournament.

QUOTE
They did better than Brazil in the last World Cup though... if they did not have a stupid coach they could have been in the final too...


They did? They got to the same stage as Brazil. But yeah I agree with you... their coach was terrible... almost as bad as Dunga.
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