no but it's not a matter of being positive or not, it's the truth! the only ones that should be concerned about being positive are the players.

1-1 vs. Siena. PATHETIC.

This team and management are a joke. It's all their fault and what I said against Viola is correct: Inter is going to win the league without a problem, just like last year. Moratti and co are laughing right now looking how mediocre we are.

We simply don't have depth. We've 13 or 14 good players. The others are shite.

With luck we might win the CWC in December. Nothing more.

Tomorrow we'll be behind Juventus, Roma and Inter. GOOD.

of course it's about being positive. we as fans are part of the club and the club has to think and act positive, therefore i'm positive about an away point, sure the performance wasn't so good but we battled and fought and got some reward so onto tuesday with a positive frame of mind and a 1st choice 11

so i guess we can expect more of the same since we'll have to rest players again next fixture

1-1 vs. Siena. PATHETIC.

This team and management are a joke. It's all their fault and what I said against Viola is correct: Inter is going to win the league without a problem, just like last year. Moratti and co are laughing right now looking how mediocre we are.

We simply don't have depth. We've 13 or 14 good players. The others are shite.

With luck we might win the CWC in December. Nothing more.

Tomorrow we'll be behind Juventus, Roma and Inter. GOOD.

NO DEPTH, NO DEPTH, NO DEPTH. no ricky, no andrea and
we we perform like Queens Park Rangers.

Good to see some of you guys are happy with 5 out of 9 points in the League. Specially losing 2 against the mighty Siena.

Bah.

Oh and I hope our directos renew until 2012 with Kaladze.

man it must be sooooo depressing in your world,perhaps you and porty should make sure you're on suicide watch cos i fear for you 2 for sure 

if you think we're depressing then i suggest you get a lobotomy

Carlo did right rotating the squad. We weren't playing against Fiorentina or Roma. It was only the weak Siena and the players who got the opportunity should blame themselves. You are getting a chance in the first team and you need to give 120%. Instead, they were playing like sh!t and without any inspiration at all. So next time Carlo wouldn't play them against teams of Siena's level they'd now why. Again We had strong enough team to beat Siena and the key players rest was necessary.

The only ones who played decent were Gourcuff (at least he really tried) and Nesta(and not because of the goal). Gila again after missing two chances at the start was useless. But the whole team were awful today. But ,as much as it frustrating to rescue a draw against Siena, let's not draw any conclusions about the title race just yet.

i say bravo Siena and try harder Milan

no!!! the last 1 really hurt!

4 points might not seem too much right now because we are still in week 3 but if Inter have a season like they did last season then those 4 points that we lost this early will make us lose grtound to early to catch up later on.

I don't know where you are getting all these "positives" from, but we had the same exact problem last season and we didn't do a thing about it in the summer.

like what are we supposed to say? what i predicted during the summer is exactly what is happening right now. our management haven't even tried to address the same problems we had 2 years ago. what i'm a supposed to cheery and giddy? it's fine being positive when it's appropriate but today the whole team was pure **** and everyone here can testify to that. if you think we're depressing then i suggest you get a lobotomy

wow... siena... i'm going to straight to gilardino! well.. that's just it. we are not seeing one bit of improvement from him so January is the time for him to go

wow... siena... i'm going to straight to gilardino! well.. that's just it. we are not seeing one bit of improvement from him so January is the time for him to go

Exactly.

Last year there was the Calciocaos excuse. Can't wait to hear the one this year.

Agreed with you one everything except for the part in bold. To win a title I believe that you have to start strongly and we just aren't cutting it, the lack of motivation some of the guys that played for us today showed was appauling.

Ok so Kaka and Pirlo did not play, so what, we had a good enough team playing out there to beat the terrible Siena. Why is it that we only show any ammount of determination in the last 10 minutes? By then the game is already gone, especially when you need to score not 1 but 2 goals.

I think Carlo has shown where his priorities lie already this season and that is definately not the league imo.

4 points might not seem too much right now because we are still in week 3 but if Inter have a season like they did last season then those 4 points that we lost this early will make us lose grtound to early to catch up later on.

Imo, it's not about the coach, or the tactics or what class players we put out there today, but the motivation the 11 we have out there show, and for me apart from a couple none of them showed any of that except for the last 10 minutes when it was already too little too late to do anything about the result

but that's just me you deal with it in your own way

Burn! (thanks kurt!) He's had more shots on goal than your fat boy, this season.

If

I'm going to give a more calm response to this than I usually do.

There's an old theory that winning your home games and drawing your away games is enough to win you the league. Well, we've played 1 home game and 2 away games. That means to reach the target, we should be on 5 points, and we are.

But, there's no kidding that it's a poor result, even away from home.

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There are some things for which Milan can't be blamed, for everthing else there is Porty.

Carlo did right rotating the squad. We weren't playing against Fiorentina or Roma. It was only the weak Siena and the players who got the opportunity should blame themselves. You are getting a chance in the first team and you need to give 120%. Instead, they were playing like sh!t and without any inspiration at all. So next time Carlo wouldn't play them against teams of Siena's level they'd now why. Again We had strong enough team to beat Siena and the key players rest was necessary.

The only ones who played decent were Gourcuff (at least he really tried) and Nesta(and not because of the goal). Gila again after missing two chances at the start was useless. But the whole team were awful today. But ,as much as it frustrating to rescue a draw against Siena, let's not draw any conclusions about the title race just yet.

We should have never renewed Dida's contract in the first place and I think it's time for Bonera to come ehead of Kaladze in the packing order, meaning when Paolo is not fit Bonera gets the go-ahead before Kala

I think what irritates people here the most is the fact that the players didn't even start trying until the clock hit 80 minutes, atleast that's what makes me p!ssed off at the fact that we got this result. Our subs that were playing today should have been able to handle this Siena team, no questions asked.

The other week against Fiornetina was a very predictable result especially after the Super Cup and the fact that Fiorentina are a very good young team, but this week there should be no excuses.

Losing points against teams like Siena is what will eventually keep us from winning the league, not losing points against Fiorentina, Roma and Inter

Pato will certainly change the way we play. It's crucial to play with a forward and a striker together. Otherwise it will be the same story.

Agree with you there 100%. And I think Carletto is angry as well. The players will either have to improve or they won't play. But I don't think the likes of Cafu or Gila have anything to offer.

SEE YOU IN MAY CRY BABIES!!!

Imo Gila did nothing wrong today, and I'm not saying this because I'm on the Gila bandwagon, becouse I decided to get off that sinking ship at the beginning of the season when he started messing up against Genoa.

But today he did nothing wrong, he never even got any service from our lazy midfield, so he can't really be blamed today. Against Fiorentina, yes, it was his fault seeing as he wasted 2 clear cut chances and he wasn't even controlling the ball well, but today it was not his fault

Imo Gila did nothing wrong today, and I'm not saying this because I'm on the Gila bandwagon, becouse I decided to get off that sinking ship at the beginning of the season when he started messing up against Genoa.

But today he did nothing wrong, he never even got any service from our lazy midfield, so he can't really be blamed today. Against Fiorentina, yes, it was his fault seeing as he wasted 2 clear cut chances and he wasn't even controlling the ball well, but today it was not his fault

I will just voice my opinion

Well, I believe last season everyone was saying the same thing you are saying, no service. But then Ronaldo came and all the sudden, there is service! I think you are only making excuses for him. He lost great chances, he messed up everything that came his way, his half-assed "1-2s" were painful to watch. He stumbled on the ball and fell AGAIN today with no one around him and I could only laugh. He really makes the midfield not wanna pass to him. Have you not seen Kaka and how frustrated he gets with him?

Not his fault ...

If a 34 year old Inzaghi tried on several occasion in the second half to score, the 25 year old Gilardino did nothing throughout the 90 mins! Yeah it wasn't his fault that he is not worthy of playing for Milan.

Pato will certainly change the way we play. It's crucial to play with a forward and a striker together. Otherwise it will be the same story.

Serie A Week 3 - 15/9/07 (17.00 UK) 
Siena 1 - 1 Milan
Maccarone 25 (S), Nesta 91 (M)
Stadio Franchi Montepaschi

Milan fought back for a 1-1 draw at Siena with Alessandro Nesta's volley after a truly comical Dumb & Dumber moment from Nelson Dida and Kakha Kaladze.

This was the first match played since the stadium was renamed the Stadio Artemio Franchi Arena Montepaschi, bringing in the name of the club sponsor.

The Rossoneri were preparing for their Champions League opener with Benfica, so left Kaka, Andrea Pirlo, Massimo Oddo and the injured Ronaldo behind, giving Emerson his first start for the club. Last season this fixture ended 4-3 for the visitors and Siena feared a repeat, as they had lost both their Serie A games so far this term with one goal in favour and five against. Argentine defender Leandro Grimi got to face the club that still owns his contract.

Milan were clearly in a hurry to secure the points and almost scored after 24 seconds when Dimitrios Eleftheropoulos parried an Alberto Gilardino left-foot volley set up by Emerson.

From the resulting corner kick, Clarence Seedorf's cross found the head of Gilardino for another decisive save, this time with Eleftheropolous' feet.

Yet Siena slowly got into the game as well and on 13 minutes had an excellent scoring opportunity. Daniele Galloppa dribbled past three players on the left flank and only a splendid Nelson Dida reaction save prevented him smashing a left-foot shot in at the near post.

It was Siena who took the lead in comical circumstances with Milan's version of Dumb & Dumber. Dida fumbled a timid Cristian Bucchi effort and Kakha Kaladze was ready to clear, but he too tripped up over the ball and left it for Massimo Maccarone's close-range finish. However, replays suggest the former Middlesbrough man was clearly offside.

Paolo De Ceglie also dummied the confused Kaladze soon after to fire over the bar, while Seedorf should have done better with his lob. On 33 minutes Marcos Cafu sprung the offside trap down the right and only some desperate defending in the six-yard box prevented him from netting.

Maccarone charged down the right past Giuseppe Favalli and Dida parried his powerful low drive with an outstretched foot. Then Bucchi's shot took a deflection and skimmed the head of Simone Loria.

Yoann Gourcuff's attempt was smothered by Eleftheropoulos, as was a Seedorf piledriver towards the base of the near post.

Pippo Inzaghi was introduced at half-time for Gennaro Gattuso and immediately tried to turn his marker only to be closed down by a crowd of defensive bodies. Marek Jankulovski also came on for the slow and disappointing Giuseppe Favalli.

The Rossoneri were visibly lacking in concentration, especially in defence, as another Kaladze error handed Jarolim a great chance that dipped inches over the bar.

Milan's first real chance of the second half came after 23 minutes, as Eleftheropoulos bravely came out low to grab Seedorf's pass off Inzaghi's feet, but in doing so was accidentally kicked in the head.

Substitute Massimo Ambrosini's header from a set-piece was denied by a Jarolim goalline clearance.

Seedorf was tripped in the D and curled the free kick on to the roof of the net, grazing the crossbar.

It all seemed to be dragging towards a 1-0 result when in stoppages Grimi hacked down Seedorf. The free kick was floated into the centre where De Ceglie's scuffed clearance fell straight to Alessandro Nesta for a splendid volley under the bar.

The game sprung to life and 60 seconds later Mario Frick mistimed his tackle from behind to stop Seedorf's counter-attack and was shown a straight red card.

In the final minute Cristian Brocchi was brought down in a similar position to the goal for another free kick that Seedorf smashed on to the underside of the crossbar! It bounced off the line and back out again, but did not cross over.

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Siena: Eleftheropoulos; Rossettini, Portanova, Loria; Grimi; Jarolim (Codrea 88), Vergassola, Galloppa; De Ceglie, Maccarone (Corvia 74), Bucchi (Frick 55)

Milan: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli (Jankulovski 61); Gattuso (Inzaghi 46), Emerson (Ambrosini 65), Brocchi; Gourcuff, Seedorf; Gilardino

Ref: Banti

Sent off: Frick 92 (S)

^^ Good post Fillipo