TriniKing_CE
Apr 25 2012, 12:51 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 24 2012, 03:50 PM)

All thanks to the idiots up top at our club for giving such a mediocre player the ability to fund this

Jack Sparrow
Apr 25 2012, 09:23 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 25 2012, 01:20 AM)

All thanks to the idiots up top at our club for giving such a mediocre player the ability to fund this


Inter paid us 1.5 million to take him off their hands.

I doubt we spent much.
TriniKing_CE
Apr 29 2012, 07:50 PM
Now I'm not sure how legit this is, but the caption on the picture when it was posted indicates that Muntari was wearing inter shinguards under his socks

Disgraceful if the pic was untouched!!
X-Offender
Apr 29 2012, 09:53 PM
Muntari claimed they are a type of shinguards of Nike, not Inter's. The logo similarity is just a coincidence.
Zed.D
Apr 29 2012, 10:03 PM
Really looks like Inter's old crest.
Fillipo Simone
Apr 29 2012, 10:04 PM
Anyway, it's a detail.
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 03:14 PM
If he's comfortable wearing his old shingaurds than the crest shouldn't really matter. What really matter is how utter cr@p he is as a footballer and the fact that he's getting picked to start for each of our matches. That's the real tragedy here, not some stupid shingaurds
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 03:14 PM
If he's comfortable wearing his old shingaurds than the crest shouldn't really matter. What really matter is how utter cr@p he is as a footballer and the fact that he's getting picked to start for each of our matches. That's the real tragedy here, not some stupid shingaurds
Jack Sparrow
Apr 30 2012, 03:16 PM
He's the new Brocchi!
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 03:16 PM)

He's the new Brocchi!

At least Brocchi had some dignity and drive.
Muntari just stands around, cool as a cucumber, waiting around for the ball and than losing it
Jack Sparrow
Apr 30 2012, 03:32 PM
Hey..he was brought in as an understudy to an understudy. What are you expecting?
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 03:49 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 02:32 PM)

Hey..he was brought in as an understudy to an understudy. What are you expecting?

Yes, but who'd have thought that the genius we call our coach would insist on playing him every minute, even when the players he is understudying to have returned
kurtsimonw
Apr 30 2012, 05:46 PM
Muntari: Played 12, won 8, drew 3, lost 1. We win with him in the team, couldn't care less why or how.
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 30 2012, 05:46 PM)

Muntari: Played 12, won 8, drew 3, lost 1. We win with him in the team, couldn't care less why or how.
Oh, sorry. I didn't know that we won those games thanks to Muntari. And not in spite of him bumbling around on the pitch and tripping over his own feet.
X-Offender
Apr 30 2012, 06:14 PM
Muntari should be Nocerino's sub, I would be more than OK with that. What really irks me is Allegri playing him in every single game, whether as LCM, playmaker, and even AM, like he's an all-rounder that can pretty much do every job. Which he clearly can't.
nuh
Apr 30 2012, 06:16 PM
guys calm down about the shin pads
they are nike total 90 designs
http://www.binbin.net/photos/generic/nik/n...yellow-kids.jpg
Fillipo Simone
Apr 30 2012, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 30 2012, 06:46 PM)

Muntari: Played 12, won 8, drew 3, lost 1. We win with him in the team, couldn't care less why or how.
And you seriously thin it's his doing?
X-Offender
Apr 30 2012, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 30 2012, 07:16 PM)

guys calm down about the shin pads
they are nike total 90 designs
http://www.binbin.net/photos/generic/nik/n...yellow-kids.jpgGood we cleared that up.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 30 2012, 07:20 PM)

And you seriously thin it's his doing?
Kurt is always about the numbers.
Zed.D
Apr 30 2012, 06:44 PM
You know, Muntari has been bad in most of the games he's played for us, but he hasn't been THAT bad. I mean, Mesbah bad. one thing he does rather well is winning balls. I've seen him do that many times. though he loses them easily in return.
What pisses me off about him the most is because I think he plays like he doesn't really care. slow, lazy and clumsy. you can't call yourself a footballer when that is your attitude. in his first seasons at Inter, I thought he was very good. I still think he's potentially a good player, if only he cared enough.
kurtsimonw
Apr 30 2012, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 30 2012, 06:20 PM)

And you seriously thin it's his doing?
As I said above. We win with him. I couldn't care less how or why. But y'know, you guys keep taking things out of context to have a little cry about something or other.
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 30 2012, 06:46 PM)

As I said above. We win with him. I couldn't care less how or why. But y'know, you guys keep taking things out of context to have a little cry about something or other.
Lol, and you think the results would nose dive if he were to be taken out?
kurtsimonw
Apr 30 2012, 07:17 PM
Did I say that? Our success rate with him in the team is outstanding. End of. Not sure what there is to argue. It's a fact.
Fillipo Simone
Apr 30 2012, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 30 2012, 08:17 PM)

Did I say that? Our success rate with him in the team is outstanding. End of. Not sure what there is to argue. It's a fact.
Yeah, it's a random fact that only deludes people who don't watch Milan games; other then that I really don't see a point? Surely someone could find an impressive win record when Milan started Taribo West or Jens Lehmann, but heck what does it matter when the context maintains missing?
kurtsimonw
Apr 30 2012, 07:36 PM
Because I don't see it as an issue when we're winning? If he was playing and we kept losing and he was awful - problem. That's not the case. He hasn't even been awful and we're winning with him. What the hell's the problem.
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 30 2012, 07:17 PM)

Did I say that? Our success rate with him in the team is outstanding. End of. Not sure what there is to argue. It's a fact.
How are they outstanding?
we basically gave up the Scudetto while he was gallivanting in our midfield.
He only played decently in his first 2 to 3 games. The rest has been utter cr@p. And if you don't think having that kind of liability in our midfield wasn't in part at fault for our collapse, then I don't know what else to say to you.
Defending Muntari is ultimately defending Allegri's idiotic decision to constantly play him. That says enough
kurtsimonw
Apr 30 2012, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 30 2012, 07:37 PM)

How are they outstanding?
we basically gave up the Scudetto while he was gallivanting in our midfield.
I don't think he's a reason we're winning a lot, but that's completely retarded.
With Muntari - 2.25ppg
Without Muntari - 2.04ppg
It's a fact we're winning more with him in the team with him out of the team. Arguing that is, well, being factually incorrect. Not sure why people are even arguing this. It was a stat I noticed, I put it, what's the big deal.
Rossoneri7
Apr 30 2012, 08:43 PM
Muntari is a good utility player, ala Broochi ... These players play to serve a certain function, it is not expected of them to be masters of the ball. In that light, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be playing.
han2503
Apr 30 2012, 08:53 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 30 2012, 08:43 PM)

Muntari is a good utility player, ala Broochi ... These players play to serve a certain function, it is not expected of them to be masters of the ball. In that light, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be playing.
Are you serious???!!!
Why he shouldn't be playing??? Because there are players fit and on the bench who are far better than him FFS!!
TriniKing_CE
May 1 2012, 01:55 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 30 2012, 03:43 PM)

Muntari is a good utility player, ala Broochi ... These players play to serve a certain function, it is not expected of them to be masters of the ball. In that light, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be playing.
Neither are Milan quality. Fin!
Rossoneri7
May 1 2012, 06:20 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 30 2012, 10:53 PM)

Are you serious???!!!
Why he shouldn't be playing??? Because there are players fit and on the bench who are far better than him FFS!!
Why is it you are pissed? I thought as far as your concerned the season was over?
Rossoneri7
May 1 2012, 06:21 AM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ May 1 2012, 03:55 AM)

Neither are Milan quality. Fin!
True, but so are Aquilani and Flamini
han2503
May 1 2012, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 1 2012, 05:20 AM)

Why is it you are pissed? I thought as far as your concerned the season was over?
What does the season being over have to do with being p!ssed about the fact that this idiot is getteing as much minutes as Zlatan Ibrahimovich FFS!
How can you not be p!ssed when you see him in our shirt making a fool of himself on the pitch. It's frustrating because we've been playing some of our worst stuff under Allegri since this idiot has been playing regularly for us
han2503
May 1 2012, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 1 2012, 05:21 AM)

True, but so are Aquilani and Flamini

They are Milan quality! Maybe not starting quality but certainly more than good enough to be in the Milan squad. Muntari is not even worthy of a ball boy position on this team
Fillipo Simone
May 1 2012, 01:02 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 1 2012, 12:55 PM)

They are Milan quality! Maybe not starting quality but certainly more than good enough to be in the Milan squad. Muntari is not even worthy of a ball boy position on this team
Aquilani is Milan quality in terms of rotation and back-up. Sorry, but Flamini isn't. There's no way you can prove it; he's just a few inches better then Muntari.
X-Offender
May 1 2012, 03:25 PM
Aquilani proved during September-December that he's a decent player you can actually count on. If it wasn't for his injury and Allegri's reluctance to play him because of the infamous '25 presences', he'd still be a worthy starter in our midfield. Muntari, on the other hand, only proved during these months that he's the same idiot who we all thought he was at Inter. He scored a couple of lucky goals, and had about 2-3 decent games in total. But I don't really blame him. It's all Allegri's fault for playing him non-stop when he clearly had better players on the bench. And that's what really pisses the hell out of me!
William405
May 1 2012, 05:17 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 1 2012, 05:25 PM)

Aquilani proved during September-December that he's a decent player you can actually count on. If it wasn't for his injury and Allegri's reluctance to play him because of the infamous '25 presences', he'd still be a worthy starter in our midfield. Muntari, on the other hand, only proved during these months that he's the same idiot who we all thought he was at Inter. He scored a couple of lucky goals, and had about 2-3 decent games in total. But I don't really blame him. It's all Allegri's fault for playing him non-stop when he clearly had better players on the bench. And that's what really pisses the hell out of me!
+100000 keep them comin.
kurtsimonw
May 1 2012, 05:43 PM
Imagine if we actually lost games with Muntari playing? This place would explode.
Fillipo Simone
May 1 2012, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2012, 06:43 PM)

Imagine if we actually lost games with Muntari playing? This place would explode.
Come on, I really don't understand what you're trying to prove to us? You think Muntari is responsible for winning those games, or his presence is giving us the tactical edge?
And by the way, mere numbers don't mean much. We won against smaller teams (bar Roma, but I can't remember if Muntari played there as a starter).
kurtsimonw
May 1 2012, 08:00 PM
I am not trying to prove anything. He's obviously not as bad as most suggest. But he wasn't wanted and is unfashionable, so unless he becomes Kaka', opnions won't change.
Fillipo Simone
May 1 2012, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2012, 09:00 PM)

I am not trying to prove anything. He's obviously not as bad as most suggest. But he wasn't wanted and is unfashionable, so unless he becomes Kaka', opnions won't change.
Sorry, I disagree. You're citing extremes. Bommel, Nocerino, Ambrosini and Flamini are all fighters who ain't as flashy as Kaka but still get appreciation here when they do good.
kurtsimonw
May 1 2012, 10:54 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 1 2012, 08:02 PM)

Sorry, I disagree. You're citing extremes. Bommel, Nocerino, Ambrosini and Flamini are all fighters who ain't as flashy as Kaka but still get appreciation here when they do good.
I didn't mean as flashy as Kaka', but I meant unless someone basically becomes a star they won't get credit. Ambro still doesn't get much credit and I've still seen some comments of talking about Nocerino being a backup, despite this outstanding season he's had. Flamini doesn't get much appreciation, but then he hasn't deserved any.
han2503
May 2 2012, 01:09 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2012, 10:54 PM)

I didn't mean as flashy as Kaka', but I meant unless someone basically becomes a star they won't get credit. Ambro still doesn't get much credit and I've still seen some comments of talking about Nocerino being a backup, despite this outstanding season he's had. Flamini doesn't get much appreciation, but then he hasn't deserved any.
VB and Nocerino are great examples of not being initially wanted by most of the people here. Yet they're now viewed as 2 of the most important players on our team by most. Only the odd person sees Nocerino as anything other than an important starter
Making him out to be worse than he really is?? Hardly! I don't get what you're getting at with this argument, even a person who knows absolutely nothing about football can see what a liability Muntari truely is in our midfield
And your stat sheet with Muntari in the team really doesn't mean anything. It's like we weren't winning before and all of a sudden started to win once we brought him in. Like our very own personal miracle

Most likely we would have still won all those games without him bumbling around on the pitch and making mistakes out of what should be simple passes.
Rossoneri7
May 2 2012, 07:45 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 2 2012, 03:09 PM)

VB and Nocerino are great examples of not being initially wanted by most of the people here. Yet they're now viewed as 2 of the most important players on our team by most. Only the odd person sees Nocerino as anything other than an important starter
Making him out to be worse than he really is?? Hardly! I don't get what you're getting at with this argument, even a person who knows absolutely nothing about football can see what a liability Muntari truely is in our midfield
And your stat sheet with Muntari in the team really doesn't mean anything. It's like we weren't winning before and all of a sudden started to win once we brought him in. Like our very own personal miracle

Most likely we would have still won all those games without him bumbling around on the pitch and making mistakes out of what should be simple passes.
You cant really be that biased han ... Muntari is not Makelele, he is a Broochi. You don't like Broochies, ok .. But Allegri does. For me, especially in the closing weeks of the season, I'd rather see those 3 points accumulate game-by-game, than worry about little details of who started and shouldn't .. And if Allegri can confirm with his selections the points, then I don't consider Muntari a liability.
Again obviously he isn't Ringo in his prime, he is a Broochi in his prime
kurtsimonw
May 2 2012, 09:52 PM
My posts are timed pretty well sometimes. Thanks for the 2 extra points today, Sully.
Jack Sparrow
May 2 2012, 09:57 PM
To hell with you. It was Robbie who gave us the points.
kurtsimonw
May 2 2012, 09:58 PM
Whatever you say, boss.
Jack Sparrow
May 2 2012, 10:06 PM
Coz sulley's goal was canceled out by Marchisio...but it was Robbie's that they didn't have an answer to. So by this brilliant twist of logic that only a mind as delusional as mine could have come up with...I'm right and you're wrong. Now buy me beer and a lapdance.
kurtsimonw
May 2 2012, 10:08 PM
wut.
han2503
May 3 2012, 08:06 AM
Last time I checked scoring a goal does not meqn that you were utterly cr@p in everything else you did during the game. Because that always sums up Muntari. And I find it funny how you try to attribute the win to this good for mothing, as if he was the only player on the pitch for us.
And what's really funny here is that you're only trying to defend his case because it's Allegri's repeatedly stupid decision to play him in every game
kurtsimonw
May 3 2012, 09:20 AM
Yes, because he was 'utterly crap'.
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