I think I lost track of the various forms subcontinental trash-talk a long time ago (and so did Jack, judging from his recent posts).

Yeah, how's that working out for you?

Oh look, a Spurs fan.

Lets feed him to flamini's cleets

3-1 to the Seasiders! 3-1 to the Seasiders!

Blackpool ? We lost to a team that lost to Blackpool ?!

Yup.... Awesome!

Correction: in a 180 min game we allowed a blue chicken team the honour of scoring first in Italy

Ok serious question now....if a Spurs player french kisses the badge does that make him a *********?

Depends what ********* means!

Don't push it.

The tottenham badge has a c0ck in it. Now figure it out Zed.d.

Well, if Blackpool were able to beat them, so could we. But I guess motivations play a different role in such circumstances.

I still believe we can over-turn this at the lane, its more expectation than hope

Spurs 1-2 Milan or even 3 in our favor, I know it sounds dillusional but if blackpool can score 3 and we all know defensively they aint great combined with the fact they ll come out an leave space at lane ...

does sound inevitable that we can score

With Pato and Boateng (and without Gattuso) from the start, we might have a chance.

would take 110 percent effort but possible

for some reason i wish yepes just got a redcard and kept the first tie at 0-0 least they wudnt have the away goal, oh an i dont wanna ssee him in second leg anyway

Yepes shouldn't have gone too ground so early, classic mistake, had Thiago or Nesta been there they would have dealth better with it, I'm 100% sure, it had nothing to do with speed, the challenge just had to be perfect, something Nesta and Silva could pull off

It was a terrible attempt. Yepes should know that he's right footed and tried to show him inside as he can't do anything with his left foot. Jumping in like that made it too easy to get round him and Yepes took himself out of the game by doing it. Really ametuer defending, even I wouldn't be so stupid.

Woulda coulda shoulda. We can't tell.

Agreed, all this is useless speculation. I have seen Nesta give away stupid penalties in the box. And Silva although a monster, still has his flaws. Nesta, even with all his experience, did not cover Crouchy. His game-reading skills should have made him do much better there. Besides, we never know, maybe those two combined would have faltered. So like I said, we are 0-1 down, we gave away an away goal, and all this is mere speculation. Like you said, we can't tell.

Only Paolo Maldini woulda stopped him. I am dead sure of it.

In Nesta's defense, he did cover Crouch, but had to go towards Lennon once he beat Yepes.

Oi!

^^^^^^^^^^

It's simple defendding 101. Don't lunge in when 1 on 1. Stand your ground! It's an ametourish mistake that I would have expected out of Bonera ala the Udinese game, which we slaughtered him over btw How is Yepes exempt from citicism over it?

Let's not use the Allegri rule book for judging players, had Pato, Sokratis, etc done a mistake similar to the one Yepes and Ibra did to start the chain reaction towards the goal then we wouldn't hear of them again

Nesta to much better? Are you serious? You never played football right?

Lennon was too fast. He couldn't have stood his ground. He should have made the tactical foul, instead of pulling out. He'd have been sent off. But it was the end of the match anyway.

Right. Though I did try my hands at underwater volleyball and horseback polo a bit when I was 3.

Maybe I should not have said much better, but still being our best and most experienced defender, I would have expected Nesta to cover the player who was going to be played the ball (in this case Crouch). He was found in no-mans land in between Lennon and Crouch. When in fact, I would have much preferred him covering and marking Crouch completely as well as clearing the ball, and left Amelia and Yepes to deal with Lennon. If Lennon would have shot into the net, then by all means be my guest.

A judgmental error, and he is as much to be blamed for the goal as Ibra for giving away the ball (quite easily, I must say) in the first place. Allegri and Yepes take much of the blame. The former for playing Silva in the mid and not asking the team to stay back and save themselves from a deadly counter. The later for not going in for a hard tackle and getting a red card for the team.


Unfortunately, gonna have to agree with you on this. My issue was not how we conceded the goal, but Allegri should have known better than to try and get a solitary goal in the last ten minutes and putting his aged-and-slow defense and 2nd-choice keeper under pressure and immense risk from a counter.

He practically put most of the men forward, thinking this was the second leg of something. I remember seeing our GK in their box for crying out loud. What on blue blazes was that all about? If you can't make the most of the 80-odd minutes on home ground, then it is much, much better to play it safe and go for an honorable 0-0, and then try your luck in the away leg. Absolute naivety, bordering stupidity, if you ask me.


Agree on this. I'd much rather have him make a harmless tactical foul and gotten a red, than giving away a very crucial own-goal. But what's done is done, let's see what he (and the team) does in two weeks time in London.

About Amelia going to their box on the last play(corner).I'm pretty sure,that the game would have ended whatever happened.The additional minutes were done,but yeah I agree that he shouldn't have even risked like that...On the other hand,the game was going to end anyway.

It's just a typical ametour play, Allegri is clearly not cut out for th CL, even an idiot would have known that Spurs will catch us out on the counter when we camped 10 players in their half, plus going all out for the home goal when we could have easily taken the draw and worked for a score draw away from home would have put us through. Now it's all or nothing.

As for Nesta, I have to disagree with you, Yepes' mistake lead to the goal, any choice Nesta could have taken would have sill lead to the goal, had he stayed on Crouch Lennon would have easily slotted home himself

Just heared the greatest news today that I'm going to film the return match in London for Rai Italy !

Wow, that's great news. Lucky you!

Wow that's great. Bring us some luck!

No, I really cannot buy this. It's harsh and unfair: Allegris tactics and our attacking lead to the counter attack which enabled Crouch to score. Nesta and Yepes could only provide damage management, which Yepes didn't do to Milan standards.

Nesta and Thiago should always start together in big games.

Well they did start. You meant, Thiago should be positioned as defender in big games, unless we have a younger and more agile defender (like we have) to pair with Nesta, right?

Yes, I meant as our CB duo.

Awesome man. Hopefully the trip turns out well for all parties (you & Milan).


+1


+1

It's irrelevant how fast he is if you get in position before he gets to you. Yepes just failed to do his job and did about the only thing that was going to result in a sure goal.

Yes it was Allegri's mistake to push forward and camp out in their half when he knew Spurs could kill us on the counter with speed. But Yepes made a defensive mistake that he shouldn't have done, not at this level. Either make the tactical foul and get sent off or do it right, he dd neither. Sure the counter attack could have been avoided, but once we were in that situaion then I would expec our CB to handle the situation better then Yepes did.


Agreed


Exactly

But Yepes was in position. It was Silva who I think broke the tactics (for no fault of his, since he's supposed to help in the all out attack). Silva was supposed to drop into the back two when the fullbacks ventured forward.

It was just one of those things. You cannot stand your ground when someone like Lennon runs at you at full pace. C'mon!

How did we stop CR in the San Siro when he was with Man U? Oddo stuck close to him cutting space, while Rino ran up to make the tackle.

You can't just handle pure pace one-on-one all the time.

I still stand by what I said. Yepes should have made the tactical foul. It's what Nesta or Paolo would have done.

Yepes should have either made the tactical foul or should have tried to run along with Lennon for as long as he could stay next to him just to annoy him as Lennon had not made a good pass even under Antonini's slight pressure all game. His pass would have been intercepted by Nesta and I doubt he would have scored if he had tried but at the very least he would have slimmer chances than Crouch on an open net. Yepes practically sat down, it would have made no difference if he wasn't there... what idiot would run straight at him?

^^

Now that I can +1. He's basically committed to the tactical foul and then pulled out of it...which is the same as not doing anything at all..not even being there.

Any chance of a guest pass Marco?

This Thiago Silva in midfield maladeee has been taken way toooo faaar, okay so he did well against an italian team in a league game as a last resort thats understandable, but for a high profile game such as this it should have been nesta and thiago silva at the back hopefully we ll see that at the lane.

If we had midfielders on like merkel strasser and not thiago and two maniacs who just wanted to break legs we could have won, spurs are nothing special - this is what pains me the most

it really does boil my blood how we lost to an ordinary spurs side, glad it wasnt united or chelsea or it could have been humiliation

I'll do my best buddy , cant promise anything tough

+1

Bale is not going to be picked for weekend's game and he is unlikely for our 2nd leg clash.

Is Janku on the CL list?

Spurs will just play us on the counter through Lennon all night long in London. Antonini got played by him throughout the first half and let him put in cross after cross. If Zambro is not back then Janku would do a better job at it then Antonini did.

Hmh, I'm just worried about Janku's strenght and speed. Maggio wasn't exactly in Lennons pace.

Zambrotta should be available. What worries me is our midfield. Supposing we can play Flamini and Boateng on the flanks, who will be DM? Pirlo is out, Ambro is out, Gattuso is suspended, Van Bommel can't play. Thiago? No, he should play in defense. So, how about Strasser? He's been missing for quite some time now, but I think he's available. He's potent enough to hold the midfield, and I don't think his inexperience would be a problem. Another option would be playing Flamini as DM and Jankulovski on the left of midfield. Personally, I'd opt for Strasser.



Hoping no one gets injured in the Juve game.