QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 16 2011, 02:11 PM) 
I honestly don't get the Ibra doesn't like Pato gag. It's just something the crazy media came up with to have something to talk about negative, since at one point we were marching away to glory in the Serie A race. And we eat it up like sardines??!!
It's no secret that our best performing trident is Ibra-Cassano-Robinho. ANd that's not coz of some stupid reason like Allegri/Ibra doesn't like Pato. It's common sense.
One technical big man forward, one brilliant visionary of an SS and one effervescent CAM. If you want you can replace Ibra with Pato and I assume it would also be good. But that begs the age-old question why bench the man in form?
Secondly, Ibra is not showing up in big games?? And yet we call him the saviour? He dragged us through the group stages with his goals. He even 'scored' yesterday. It's I think a simple case of him being damned by his reputation...when the simple truth is like Beckham, like Ronaldo and dare I say like Cassano he has integrated himself well into the unit. Is he a dyed-in-wool rossoneri? No. But he's working his @ss off for the team, just like Robinho. I remember the image of a dehydrated Ibra, puking out there on the pitch after a match. He's left everything out there. ANd we can only say,"Oh that boy is trouble!!"
Finally on Pato....he came back from injury, I doubt his fitness and perhaps playing him from minute 1 and having him run around is not the best option I feel. As for playing with Ibra, he's already scored quite a few off Ibra's assists I think. And last evening when he came on, the grit, the resolve he showed is an aspect of him I've never seen before. He wanted to get involved with a passion and I think that's a great thing to see.
Sometimes benching a player can improve him. And I prefer to believe it when Allegri says it's tactical rather than personal. Pato himself has said he's happy here.
Finally Allegri's 'mistreatment' of R80. The new formation did not suit him. We got scrweed by Madrid primarily because we could not be compact with R80 in there. And his lack of propensity to track back and scrum it out meant the team as a whole were suffering. Ultimately, he lacked the motivation to change himself or to train when he couldn't play in the first XI, so he left.
And it's not like the team has been worse off for it.
It's no secret that our best performing trident is Ibra-Cassano-Robinho. ANd that's not coz of some stupid reason like Allegri/Ibra doesn't like Pato. It's common sense.
One technical big man forward, one brilliant visionary of an SS and one effervescent CAM. If you want you can replace Ibra with Pato and I assume it would also be good. But that begs the age-old question why bench the man in form?
Secondly, Ibra is not showing up in big games?? And yet we call him the saviour? He dragged us through the group stages with his goals. He even 'scored' yesterday. It's I think a simple case of him being damned by his reputation...when the simple truth is like Beckham, like Ronaldo and dare I say like Cassano he has integrated himself well into the unit. Is he a dyed-in-wool rossoneri? No. But he's working his @ss off for the team, just like Robinho. I remember the image of a dehydrated Ibra, puking out there on the pitch after a match. He's left everything out there. ANd we can only say,"Oh that boy is trouble!!"
Finally on Pato....he came back from injury, I doubt his fitness and perhaps playing him from minute 1 and having him run around is not the best option I feel. As for playing with Ibra, he's already scored quite a few off Ibra's assists I think. And last evening when he came on, the grit, the resolve he showed is an aspect of him I've never seen before. He wanted to get involved with a passion and I think that's a great thing to see.
Sometimes benching a player can improve him. And I prefer to believe it when Allegri says it's tactical rather than personal. Pato himself has said he's happy here.
Finally Allegri's 'mistreatment' of R80. The new formation did not suit him. We got scrweed by Madrid primarily because we could not be compact with R80 in there. And his lack of propensity to track back and scrum it out meant the team as a whole were suffering. Ultimately, he lacked the motivation to change himself or to train when he couldn't play in the first XI, so he left.
And it's not like the team has been worse off for it.
90% agree! I feel Ibra doesn't like Pato and I haven't seen anything that proves this theory wrong. he's getting along because he's a professional, but for this partnership to really work like it should and be devastating, you need more than just that. as for the rest of your post, completely agreed.
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Anyway, a few things:
- I watched the game from minute 20. yes we sucked balls in the 1st half but I thought we looked really good and determined in the 2nd half, created some good chances and all in all didn't deserve to lose this game.
- It's a disgrace that a mad clown wears the armband that once belonged to Paolo Maldini. I'm not just talking about kicking, punching and headbutting anything that came in his way, but at times during the game Rino showed the character of a sore loser, not a captain. acting like a total maniac after a simple challenge gone wrong is one of them.
- Milan with zero creativity in midfield (2nd half) > Milan with a creative midfielder named Seedorf (1st half). saddest fact ever! we've been saying how he's finished and shouldn't play anymore for some years now, but this really is it. he can't play top football.
- I don't care if I'm labeled a fanboy for saying it, but we improved so much when Pato came on. he has been accused of being selfish, lazy, with no sense of team work etc etc. but last night he proved otherwise. of course, he had his share of mistakes, but so did everyone else. credit to Max for not starting him from the beginning though, cause he probably would've showed a different attitude and made himself a target for more criticism. like Jack said, he needs to be benched like this sometimes. methinks he would've become a beast by now if he had a coach like SAF.
- This tie is not over as far as I'm concerned. I don't care we lost, if we show the same intensity (minus Gattuso) and determination we did in the 2nd half, we can at least take it to ET/penalty. we're AC Milan after all, we like to make things hard for ourselves.
- That said, I don't really care about this season's CL so if going out this round means more chance of winning the Scudetto, I'm all for it.
QUOTE (Kourosh @ Feb 16 2011, 01:29 AM)
God, I can't believe we lost. Would have preferred being ***** by a seagull.
Come again?
Lack of Ronaldinho (or someone like him, say Cassano) was the biggest reason of our loss yesterday. That and the injury to Pirlo. And the stupidity of Allegri. And Seedorf getting killed by Seedorf himself. And no KPB. And playing Silva in the mid. In fact, not going 4-2-1-3. If you have two mids available, play two. And maybe another few reasons.
We approached Spurs like they were Barca. And they approached us like we were Manchester. United, that is is. At the end of the day, it was an extremely cagey affair the first 45 minutes, things opened up after the second half. But we were worst off for it. Quote me on this. If only Cassano was not cup tied, then we could (have said) otherwise. At least the guy brings a new dynamic to this side.
First he plucked off Ronaldinho (his stupid salary was another reason, I agree), and now he is after Pato. Ibra plays along with Robinho because he is a nobody (I'll never rate this bird-head even 10% of the guys like R80 and Pato, never once has he shown himself in big games consistently).
And the tag-along Allegri is with him.
He has three good years at his full peak, before he turns 30. What has the guy done to warrant such a hooplah? Just a few scattered honors here and there. And for the record guys like Ibra and Silva are our best players this season (in terms of consistency). Robinho comes in after them.
) that it'd be a greater competition if only the domestic champions entered where we disagree is that I still think it's great the way it is.
Instead of committing all the men forward and risking a counter, that too with our slow CB combo at the back. No point in conceding an away goal, and that too to an English club. Always risky against EPL teams, they will kill you at the home leg.
