il_diavolo_mtl
Sep 30 2009, 06:21 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 30 2009, 01:08 PM)

For the record, I'm not one of those who want him to do bad but I never ever liked him.
LOL
dinho gets hated on because at 8M a year, you don't get to have 2 out of 3 bad games, he's been in serie A over 2 years now (correct me if i'm wrong danny on he exact month count

) and STIL hasn't adapted to the game, hunter i think barely finished learning spanish and now he's learning italian, let the boy grow and you will see i guarantee he will hit his peek earlier then fabiano hit his (28-29). Give the kid a chance, he is world class. when in form, he looks alot like a new MVB (based on MVB clips i've seen on youtube

)
Danny
Sep 30 2009, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 30 2009, 06:07 PM)

^^
I think part of it is his own performances and part of it was that we sold Kaka so that this guy could play...and 'lead' the team.

Never a leader in a million years. A foolish philosophy if we really did believe it possible.
But you clearly imply that half the hate for him is something which wasn't his fault. Which is a little unfair.
As for performances, one good display this year is nowhere near enough, and I'm not defending him given how absolutely terrible he's been besides said match. So disdain is justifiable on that basis.
Rivaldo
Jan 11 2010, 08:49 PM
I believe in HUNTER!!!
Danny
Jan 13 2010, 01:53 PM
QUOTE (Rivaldo @ Jan 11 2010, 07:49 PM)

I believe in HUNTER!!!
Deep

Here's hoping he gets a chance to shine today.
Rivaldo
Jan 13 2010, 02:24 PM
May be someone call me crazy, but I believe that Hunter is much more talanted striker than Boriello and I hope he will find himself in Milan. Boriello has never been compared with MVB or with others our legends.
FORZA KLAAS-JAN!
dst
Jan 13 2010, 05:39 PM
Hunter is better than Borriello in my view too but he does not seem to fit in Leo's system.
Rivaldo
Jan 15 2010, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 13 2010, 05:39 PM)

Hunter is better than Borriello in my view too but he does not seem to fit in Leo's system.
u a right. And it's sad
Danny
Jan 18 2010, 01:59 PM
With Inzaghi being brought on yesterday over Hunter, I think we can safely say this signing was a waste of time.
Whatever the reason for his exclusion is, he's not going to make it at Milan.
Possibly his double strike V Catania was a lucky moment, and in reality he's just not doing it in training.
Given the way the side is right now, I trust Leo on this one.
nuh
Jan 18 2010, 04:27 PM
I said this in summer Huntelaar is very overrated i knew he wouldn't match our qualities, it would of been much better if we signed Fabiano instead of him, Fabiano might be old but he is class and he would fit Leo's system for sure he would be a better version of Boriello (not that Boriello is bad but i don't see that much in him).
dst
Jan 18 2010, 08:53 PM
I'm tired of hearing of Fabiano. If he was ****ing good he would not still be playing at Sevilla. I think the only problem Huntelaar has is that he's not the kind of striker Leonardo wants. I think he's better than Fabiano so I'm glad we signed him - the better player. Who's to say that Fabiano would have succeeded here anyway?
Danny
Jan 18 2010, 09:02 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 18 2010, 07:53 PM)

I'm tired of hearing of Fabiano. If he was ****ing good he would not still be playing at Sevilla.
Sevilla are a world class team. Top 10 in Europe for sure. 3rd in Spain last year. Yeah, they're rubbish...
kurtsimonw
Jan 19 2010, 01:15 AM
Sevilla are awesome. Shut up, dst.
dst
Jan 19 2010, 04:39 AM
QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 18 2010, 10:02 PM)

Sevilla are a world class team. Top 10 in Europe for sure. 3rd in Spain last year. Yeah, they're rubbish...
I can't find the word rubbish in my post...
Jack Sparrow
Jan 19 2010, 05:02 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 19 2010, 10:09 AM)

I can't find the word rubbish in my post...
Here it is...
??!!!

Silly boy!

Yeah I get what you're saying though. You didn't say those Andalucians were rubbish, just that there were other teams better/bigger/more paying than them.
I always have to translate what you're saying to the others. Can't you be more articulate.
kurtsimonw
Jan 19 2010, 05:21 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 19 2010, 04:02 AM)

Here it is...

Owned.
samira
Jan 19 2010, 07:57 PM
Huntelaar reminds me little bit of Arshavin and im gladly to have him in milan
nuh
Jan 19 2010, 08:11 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 18 2010, 07:53 PM)

I'm tired of hearing of Fabiano. If he was ****ing good he would not still be playing at Sevilla. I think the only problem Huntelaar has is that he's not the kind of striker Leonardo wants. I think he's better than Fabiano so I'm glad we signed him - the better player. Who's to say that Fabiano would have succeeded here anyway?
Fabiano is a world class player he played great football with Brazil and he is still playing great football with Sevilla this year scoring 13 goals in 16 games. I don't recall Huntelaar doing something special with the Dutch team, he got a chance with Real he failed, he got a few chances with Milan and he is still failing. When i say he his getting chances meaning he should use training as a chance to show Leonardo how much he is willing to work to play regular football and how good he is. I honestly see no talent in him, other than his good finishing there is nothing good or special about him, he is one of the most overrated players in the world. As soon as i heard him coming in i knew he wouldn't work out
dst
Jan 19 2010, 08:50 PM
How do you know he's not trying? That can't be that case, he just cannot do (or better is not used to doing) what Leo wants his striker to do.
Huntelaar is overrated? Could be, but not more than Fabiano.
nuh
Jan 20 2010, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 19 2010, 08:50 PM)

How do you know he's not trying? That can't be that case, he just cannot do (or better is not used to doing) what Leo wants his striker to do.
Huntelaar is overrated? Could be, but not more than Fabiano.
If Huntelaar was actually trying during training he would of played more matches
Danny
Jan 20 2010, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (samira @ Jan 19 2010, 06:57 PM)

Huntelaar reminds me little bit of Arshavin and im gladly to have him in milan

I can't quite fathom the comparison here bud

One's a world class forward who would justifiably make many people's elite world 11s, the other is Huntelaar.
Jack Sparrow
Jan 20 2010, 07:51 PM
QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 21 2010, 12:07 AM)

I can't quite fathom the comparison here bud

One's a world class forward who would justifiably make many people's elite world 11s, the other is Huntelaar.
Is it correct to refer to a girl as a bud? I know buddy means friend...but isn't bud very male-specific? I'm just asking...I don't use this term much...
samira
Jan 20 2010, 09:14 PM
I don't really mind but as long he does'nt means nothing disrespectful
I like Huntelaar he is really good even if he did 8 goals in 20 games in Real Madrid
But he was better in Ajax
Danny
Jan 20 2010, 11:01 PM
QUOTE (samira @ Jan 20 2010, 08:14 PM)

I don't really mind but as long he does'nt means nothing disrespectful
I like Huntelaar he is really good even if he did 8 goals in 20 games in Real Madrid
But he was better in Ajax
Actually had no idea you were a chick, I normally wouldn't refer to a girl as 'bud'

so no disrespect intended.
As for Klaas, his record at Madrid is very misleading. He went on extended barren spells while he was there, and scored goals when games were 2-0 etc.
His peak was most definitely Ajax - it really has been downhill since he left.
samira
Jan 23 2010, 07:59 PM
it's cool
Yes it true, ajax is going downhill but I think its about confidents coz its 11 men on the field not one so they should win without Klaas. Theres not just on star on the field, if u know what I mean
Rivaldo
Jan 25 2010, 03:12 AM
hands off!
Hunter is good, just Leo don't know how to use him.
Today for ten min. he did much more than Borriello for hole game.
Overrated...damn...what a silly idea
Bluesummers
Feb 15 2010, 08:31 AM
He has 5 goals in 15 serie A matches. I wonder how many minutes total he's played though. He isn't far from borriello who has 8 goals.
Zed.D
Feb 15 2010, 10:31 AM
Borriello has played more consistently and scored more consistently. and he does more than just score goals. for example, how many time this season has a Borriello-Dinho-Pato combination led us to goals? he's important to our tactical setup up front. Hunter isn't that much.
But if only goals per minutes [or games] played are to be considered, yes, Huntelaar's done much better:
Borriello > 1109 minutes played | 7 goals scored. goal scoring ratio: 0.56
Huntelaar > 570 minutes played | 5 goals scored. goal scoring ratio: 0.78
Only Serie A stats counted. from acmilan.com.
Jack Sparrow
Feb 15 2010, 02:47 PM
He's a poacher...it's to be expected...I wish he were a little more mobile though....I would feel much better about him playing lone striker there. And this might be odd, but this current setup would have suited Gila to a T. His mobility had really improved in his last two seasons here, but unfortunately the setup was totally different then.
For the record, if KJH can cross the 8 goals mark in Serie A this season..then considering how long he's played, I'm inclined to keep him. He's one of the better goal poachers around..and every team needs a genuine poacher.
But then Paloschi is also an option so...
Zed.D
Feb 15 2010, 03:34 PM
IMO it doesn't have to be "either/or"? I'd keep Hunter and bring back Paloschi. because, let's face it, Pippo will be 37 come August. how many more seasons can he continue with "us", especially with such limited chances he is given on the pitch? to let either Hunter or Paloschi go because of him would not be wise. loaning Huntelaar until Pippo hangs up his boots is an option but we must not sell him. the market is not overloaded with quality poachers these days.
PS. I agree that Gila would have done well in the current setup. maybe we should bring him back.
Fishdoll
Feb 15 2010, 03:40 PM
Nah, why bother bringing Paloschi back, zeddie? Seems that nobody rates the Italians on the squad at all anyway.
Jack Sparrow
Feb 15 2010, 03:40 PM
We always seem to want our players the most 1-2 seasons after we let them go.

Simic, Gilardino, Borriello, Abbiatti.
The thing about keeping Hunter and Paloschi is...would it be worth keeping Paloschi on the bench? Would he get enough play time...assuming Leo sticks with his 4-3-3?
Zed.D
Feb 15 2010, 03:52 PM
I don't know.. we always seem to have problems caused by the lack of depth yet we think having "2" poachers in the squad would be excessive. it's up to Palo really. if he accepts to be a substitute, then he should come back. if he thinks spending more seasons on loan would do more good to him, then he should stay with Parma. but from the Milan pov I don't think having both of them hurts.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Feb 15 2010, 06:10 PM)

Nah, why bother bringing Paloschi back, zeddie? Seems that nobody rates the Italians on the squad at all anyway.
I have always rated Paloschi. does that make me a nobody?
Fishdoll
Feb 15 2010, 03:54 PM
But Paloschi isn't Brazilian (or Dutch), so he'd be slagged off like the rest of the Italians on the squad, zeddie. Seems that none of them measure up at all in the collective opinion of this board.
And for what it's worth, Paloschi has been strugglign with injury for 2-3 months at Parma and as a result has hardly played.
Darunia
Feb 15 2010, 07:44 PM
I'd extend Palsochi's co-ownership with Parma for another season and see how he develops.
MizNelson
Feb 15 2010, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Feb 15 2010, 06:54 AM)

Paloschi has been struggling with injury for 2-3 months at Parma and as a result has hardly played.
That's unfortunate to hear.
Anyway, the difference is that Hunt hasn't done a whole lot to earn regular playing time. I think we're overrating Borriello a little (only 7 goals so far this season), but as someone stated, he's been a good set-up guy as well.
Bluesummers
Feb 17 2010, 07:21 AM
QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 15 2010, 12:44 PM)

I'd extend Palsochi's co-ownership with Parma for another season and see how he develops.
he's 20. Its too early to bring him back. I agree with you. Lets bring him back when pippo is done.
Assuming we get Dzeko next season. It'll be Dzeko, borriello and Inzaghi for one position. Thats more than enough.
Danny
Feb 24 2010, 09:01 PM
Hunter makes a game altering contribution - a vital finish when we needed it the most. He did it V Catania, got a couple against Udi, and seems to be able to really help our Scudetto push.
And yet he's not favoured at all, and Borriello is fairly regarded as our first choice striker.
Hunter seems to be in a very unenviable and slightly impossible position. Even when he wins us games, it doesn't put him as first choice striker.
I have a bit of sympathy for him.
samira
Feb 24 2010, 09:22 PM
Hunte is young and good, he got a future infront of him and real leting him away as stupied
I agree, leo don't know how to use him but He will.
Jack Sparrow
Feb 24 2010, 09:48 PM
QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 25 2010, 01:31 AM)

Hunter makes a game altering contribution - a vital finish when we needed it the most. He did it V Catania, got a couple against Udi, and seems to be able to really help our Scudetto push.
And yet he's not favoured at all, and Borriello is fairly regarded as our first choice striker.
Hunter seems to be in a very unenviable and slightly impossible position. Even when he wins us games, it doesn't put him as first choice striker.
I have a bit of sympathy for him.
Well there are players like that. You can give you that extra push when you're putting max pressure in the box. So far KJH has been good as an impact sub. If you wanna know how he plays when he starts take a look at the Man U match.
His goal scoring has typically been in spurts..and when we've got the opposition on the ropes and are pounding them.
The formation today was:
----Borri---KJH
--Ronnie---Pato---
Janks---Pirlo---Flam
With all 7 pushing forward. There's no chance we can do this from minute 1. We were fortunate the Viola missed a few sitters and tried sitting back on the 1-0.
kurtsimonw
Feb 24 2010, 09:56 PM
Hunter has been scoring some vital goals, but his overall play has been embarassing for the most part. I'm not a big fan of Borriello, but I'd take him over KJH.
dst
Feb 25 2010, 01:36 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 24 2010, 10:48 PM)

If you wanna know how he plays when he starts take a look at the Man U match.
That's unfair. Maybe he is even worse than that when he starts but it's totally unfair to take one game and make it an example of how he does.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 24 2010, 10:56 PM)

Hunter has been scoring some vital goals, but his overall play has been embarassing for the most part. I'm not a big fan of Borriello, but I'd take him over KJH.
I could not disagree more.
Suhail 3
Feb 25 2010, 03:11 AM
congrats to KJH for burying his chances i honestly couldnt say which one i like more borrielo who i was praising after the bari game and saying how really greatful i am we have him, well it was huntelaars turn today and that goal really did give us hope from then on

im gonna wait till the end of the season for my ultimate decision ( not like it matters ) hehe
Zed.D
Feb 25 2010, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 25 2010, 04:06 AM)

That's unfair. Maybe he is even worse than that when he starts but it's totally unfair to take one game and make it an example of how he does.
So, so true!
Jack Sparrow
Feb 25 2010, 11:46 AM
That game was KJH at his worst.
Alone and isolated and making 0 contributions. I'm not saying this is entirely his fault. You can't make Joe Satriani play the violin, just coz the guitar happens to be a stringed instrument as well.
d'Arc.LP
Mar 10 2010, 07:40 PM
Atletico Madrid Interested In Milan Striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar - ReportQUOTE
AC Milan striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar has another suitor in the form of Atletico Madrid, according to Goal.com Italia.
The Dutchman featured for their more illustrious cross-town rivals Real Madrid for just half a season in 2009, but scored a respectable eight goals in 20 appearances in La Liga.
Since joining the Rossoneri in the summer, Huntelaar has often found himself on the bench and has made a limited impact thus far with only six goals in Serie A.
While the Rossoneri and the player have often committed to one another in the press, a cash offer may sway the Italians, as they look to put in a summer bid for Wolfsburg hitman Edin Dzeko.
Atletico Madrid may be resigned to losing Sergio Aguero at the end of the season as the likes of Chelsea, Manchester City, and Inter hover over the striker, and the capital city club have listed Huntelaar as a potential replacement.
Other names in the press linked with the Spanish outfit include Getafe's Roberto Soldado and Villarreal's Giuseppe Rossi.
goal.com
Jack Sparrow
Mar 11 2010, 06:44 AM
Believe it or not...I don't want to sell him. He doesn't suit our system true...but I actually think this bloke could be better than Trezeguet. We just need to find an able support partner. 15 million was a great deal for a top poacher...and I don't know how much his wages are, but they can't be a lot.
He has been next to useless in leading our attack line this season, but then so has everyone. I have seen a steady improvement in the bloke...and I think he'll have scored 10 goals by the time this season ends. Not bad considering his minutes played.
Next season we need a proper CF. I wanted Dzeko coz he's the closest thing to a complete CF who's available. And no..I don't consider this an either/or situation vis a vis a FB. We need both. End of.
Kaladze and Janku will go for sure. Janku's already come out and said so. Getting 10-12 million for both of them combined is not too unreasonable.
Where we're hit is that Janku want to return to the Czech republic...so we can't exchange him for anyone.
LaPalma
Mar 11 2010, 10:59 AM
When Trez was Hunts age he was already an established world class player at a top club who won both the WC and the Euro.
Jack Sparrow
Mar 11 2010, 11:35 AM
Trez made that rock solid move to Juve...where he was basically replacing another poacher in Pippo. I think we should first play to KJH's strengths before judging him as a bad investment. We havent done that this year.
Of course if the player wants to leave, it's a different matter.
Bluesummers
Mar 11 2010, 12:12 PM
dzeko sounds too good to ignore jack. Hunt's had his chances, its time to move on...
LaPalma
Mar 11 2010, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 11 2010, 11:35 AM)

Trez made that rock solid move to Juve...where he was basically replacing another poacher in Pippo. I think we should first play to KJH's strengths before judging him as a bad investment. We havent done that this year.
Of course if the player wants to leave, it's a different matter.
A good striker can even perform in a bad team, such as Dzeko did it this year when Wolfsburg were playing horrific.
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