i'm kinda happy italy only won 2-1. the media is gonna come down hard on them so they'll be motivated to not **** up again vs. lithuania. btw lucarelli should shut his fucking mouth. he was bitching about not playing alot of ames for italy, and after this game he doesnt deserve to play another. compltetly wasted 3-4 great chances two of which were point blank.

Sweden haven't been awarded the game after all.. Though I think they'll get it in the end since they were given a penalty.

Portugal is 5 points away from the 1st place with 1 game in hand.

Must win that match plus win against Poland at home to get the first place.

Does it matter if you finish 1st or 2nd?

Or does it effect your seeding for the tournement?

i'm sure it effects the seeding. thing is even italy was to qualify 2nd i'm sure they would be in no.1 pot? cuz they are world champs

the italy kit is so stylish

If England, Italy, Portugal, France and Germany to qualify, I think they would all be first seeds, regardless of the position they finish.

I think Austria and Switzerland also get a first seed position for being hosts, if I'm right?

no they keep in mind recent results from previous tournements, current form, and history in big tournements.

Yeah. I think the teams I mentioned would definetly get top seeding positions then.

It's been a while since England, Germany and Italy didn't make the last 8 in any tournement, since there's 8 seeded teams I'd have thought there's no worries, same for Portugal and possibly Holland, too.

Still sh!t as it's Puma's.

ha i find it's way better compared most national jerseys and it's the most orignal.

Germany failed to advance from group stage in the last two euro's. England failed in euro 2000 and Italy failed in euro 2004

You're right actually, with Germany especially.

Not many teams progress all the time. England have done respectibly in the last 2 World Cups, we'll be seeded, no doubt.

I'm always right

U mean Kaka owns Quaresma too

http://www.divshare.com/download/815905-34c

*rollseyes*

drama in the qualification stages, whats next?

You sure?
Iv'e read three newspapers stating that they HAVE been awarded with the win.

Poulsen actually punched him.

He makes Rino and Matrix look like kittens.. Gerrard was right.



UEFA say they're going through the referee report or whatever. Apparently they had been given a 3-0 win, which was quickly changed back to just a 'game suspended' state.

UEFA

Tomasson

Poulsen

The retard fan

You kidding? Poulsen is scared of Gattuso like a kitten from cold water.

Max, before you look silly you'd better edit your post.

Poulsen

So you like unsportsmanlike players with 0 dignity and a cheating mentality? You are on your own.

Poulsen... we almost sign him when he left Schalke. We were really close.

I can imagine a Gattuso and Poulsen vs. World.

Poulsen is no different to Gattuso or Materazzi. Or even guys like Paul Scholes or Zidane for that matter.

It's only cheating if you get away with it.. I don't see how he benefited from being sent off and having a penalty given against him.

He's a class player, just because he's fouls alot and does dumb things it doesn't make a difference.

People still see Zidane as a class act, even post-Materaazi incident.. Just because he is seen as the 'good guy'. Poulsen was more than likely provoked today, he wouldn't hit somebody for no reason. I'm a huge fan of his, he's a top player, I'm just glad he plays for Sevilla.

Anybody can be made to look villain and hero.

Poulsen vs Kaka'

^^ Kaka' gives as good as he gets.

Pippo... reborn at 34...

@Kurt: when was the last time the Argentinians actually did care about a friendly game?? Never! No money, no game, it's as simple as that!

When England play Argentina, it's no friendly.

England vs Argentina

The way all the goals are celebrated, you can tell it means a hell of alot to the players.

Well this is just the exception that proves the rule!

This encounter also has a political extension, it's a big issue.

Gattuso is a man. Poulsen is a b1tch. Gattuso is fair. Poulsen is a psychotic homo. You have to be a real f@cker to annoy Kaka that much! Kaka never gets annoyed at someone who is playing good. Diara and Mascherano both completely owned Kaka when we played them. But they never went Karate on him... They were fair and hardworking. Poulsen on the other hand is like Matterazzi in his older days. An unfair cheat.

Ok .. I don't mind in your insight on this, but there is one thing that I mind. Zidane !! How in the world can u take a dirty, no good, son of a Danish b1tch in the same sentence as Zidane ?!

U think Zidane's head-butt on Matrix should condemn his skill and all the good that he has given football ??

Ohh so u poulson is a top player in ur opinion, I rest my case

Your picture is not the way to show it, it's Rino being petty. Surely he's the one trying to wind Poulsen up?

Poulsen is very hard working, he's one of the best holding midfielders in the game. If Poulsen was the Milan player and Rino was in Poulsen's position you'd be sticking up for Poulsen. Totti spits on him, no-one's mentioned that being a bad act.



Thankyou R7!

Adapt this to Poulsen, just because he's done bad things before, why should it take away all good that he's done. He may not have the skill, the pace or be a prolific scorer, but I love him the same way you guys love Rino. He's a fighter, sometime in too much of a literal sense, but he does his job, very, very well.

Again .. U bring up another all time great, Totti and lining him up with poulsen !!!

Why ?! Because he spit on him ?? Do u remember why he spit on him ?!

BTW, ur hero ... got red carder today for punching a Swed in the guts. But 5 guess the Swed is to blame for that

i'd problably spit on sumone who just stomped one me. if it was gattuso he'd probably get up and yell at you or flash his world cup and CL medals

Hard work my @ss when he combines it with unfairness and cheating.

If you guys look into old videos and that. Check Pele out, he is not a classy player at all, the rules in football were different back then but that doesn't mean he should get away with what he did.

I watched a documentary on him, whenever he was fouled, he'd take a mental note of that players number, and make sure he got him back by the end of the game, is that what the 'Worlds Great Player' should do?

Same goes for Maradonna, doing drugs and being just a down right cheat shouldn't give you the fame that it gave him. He may be a great, but he's definetly one of the worst I've ever seen attitude wise.

What ?! Sorry, but u make no sense. Rino ?! he has nothing special to his game; he is no Nesta or Kaka He is just a defensive midfielder ..

And Poulsen is the exact same thing, with one exception, Rino is fair, he always plays fair. While Poulsen is a dirty player, I'm not saying this to piss u off or twist ur arm, but I am sorry .. It is just insulting my intelligence if u want to sit there behind ur computer and explain to me how Zidane and totti are at the same level of professionalism of poulsen. U just can't do that, even poulsen would agree with me on this A fighter ?? Yeah, one that belongs in a boxing ring not on a football pitch (His punch today on the Swed was horrendous !!)

U like his style of play ?? Well, good for u. Everyone has a right to like a certain style and all.

Okay, I think it is time for a CAT-scan !


Maradona ?? Pele ??



R u f@cking serious ????

Please .. No one is denying ur liking of poulsen, just don't bring in the best two players that have ever touched a football into this context !

That's exactly what I'm saying. In my opinion neither Rino or Poulsen are great footballers, they're just both superb defensive midfielders.

Poulsen doesn't cheat. He fouls alot, yes. But he gives away free-kicks, so he's gaining no advantage.

Do you know what Italian defenders are told when they're going through the youth teams? If you're the last man and the player beats you, foul him. Whether you believe me or not it's true, from a young age they're told to stop a goal-scoring opportunity at all costs.. Hence the philosiphy "Do not conceed, and you can't lose"

I wouldn't consider Italians cheats though. Rino has made his fair share of awful mis-timed tackles. But to me, fouling somebody is nowhere near as bad as diving.

When you foul, you give away a free-kick, rightly so.
When you dive, you gan a free kick, unfairly.

I've never once said Poulsen is a clean player, he is a dirty player, I'll admit that. What he did today was just awful, but he was punished for it. Just because he's not won World Cups or Champions League, just because he's not a well known name doesn't mean he should be picked on.

Talk about dirty players, look at Essiens fouls, he could have ended careers with what he's done recently, but because he's a well known and respected player, it's okay.




^^ This is exactly what I mean. Just because you've done great things in football doesn't mean you can just get away with what you want. Maradonna is the biggest cheat EVER.

And what's the point ur trying to make ?!


That poulsen is a super-DM ?! yeah, ok ... I really couldn't care less if he wears a cape while he does his - whatever he does on a football pitch .. But, just don't bring in actual football players into the discussion, let alone players like Pele, Zidane, Maradona, and Totti.

Well ofcourse he isn't profilic ... Had u not stated that, I wouldn't have even replied

NO! You can't say Gattuso and Poulsen are the same cause they aren't. Show me one video of Gattuso going Karate on players or punching them. Just show me something like that and I will shut up!

Maradona can out dribble poulsen time and time again. Even ina wheel chair, he can out dribble poulsen !


Why is he a cheat, because of that goal against England ?! The one he put in with his hand ?!

Please .. Maradona has proven his worth LOOOONG before that goal

What he has done for Argentina and Napoli is written in the history books ... But why are u redirecting ur discussion about pulsen to Maradona ?!

I have nothing to add on Maradona; his name says it all

That he's a class player?

If he's not a class player for this, then neither is Gattuso. They do exactly the same job.

Maradona can out dribble poulsen time and time again. Even ina wheel chair, he can out dribble poulsen !




You don't seem to get it.

So you're telling me if you're a top name in football it's okay to foul, cheat and get away with whatever you want?

The redirection is in relation to this discussion. Why is it okay for Maradonna to play dirty, but not Poulsen?

No Gattuso doesn't have class, he is a DM. Gattuso even says this about himself.



Ok bro, I don't know how u get the logic out of ur posts, but this my attempt at making sense of it and replying ... again

Forget about the names; Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Totti, etc ... Now think of the players that they are. What they have contributed to football, to their respective clubs and national teams, and what they have given as inspiration is enough for them to be classified on a level of their own.

Now, once in a blue moon, every player fouls or does something illegitimate .. But because of the magic that they have made in their illustrious and remarkable careers, the negative aspects hold no weight - at all !

But when u look at Poulsen .. Well u tell me ?? What has he contributed to his club or national team ?! Other than fouling and what-not, he is simply like gattuso .. end of discussion. Why ?? Cuz u cant say that Maradona or Zidane = Poulsen. U r just asking for it, if u get what I mean

You're still not giving me a straight answer!

Yes, Maradonna has given more to football than any other player in the history of the sport in my opinion.

This does NOT give him the right to be a cheat and to foul alot. You can't just be like..

"Well, since you've done so much for the sport, we'll let you kick that guys head in, don't worry though. You're an icon in the sport, it doesn't matter."

And I know Poulsen hasn't done alot for club or country. This doesn't mean he's not a great player. Like you said, every player does bad things, even the best of them. It doesn't make them any less of a player, he helped Sevilla retain the UEFA Cup this year, which is a hard thing to do, so what if he's not won countless trophies, he hardly plays in a World beating team.

Stop comparing Gattuso with Poulsen... Gattuso has won Italy the World Cup and Milan all the different kind of cups. While Poulsen is a loser. Please stop with this "because they are both DM, the are the same or they are no footballers" nonsense. That doesn't even make sense.

Gattuso is a better player no doubt and he is also fair player. That is why he is better and that is why Poulsen is not the same as him. Actually nobody is the same as Gattuso. Everyone in the World admits that. Just ask Sir Alex if you doubt my words.

You can't compare what people have won either.

Poulsen: Schalke/Sevilla + Denmark.
Gattuso: Rangers/Milan + Italy.

The fact that Rino has played in a monopolised league and with a European Giant compared to Poulsen playing with 2 average teams is hardly fair.

I think Gattuso is a much better player, I would rather have him in my team than Poulsen.

Take a look at your own sig. Now does winning trophies make you better or not?

Anyways, I understand that you are a Poulsen fan. But you can't say he is the same as Gattuso or they are the same players cause that's not true.

It makes you a better team, yes. Trophies aren't win individually.

Poulsen's won as much as Rino this season, and is still in the running for two other trophies. Not too shabby for a cr@p cheat.

But I still consider Rino a better player, regardless of what he wins.




No, fair point. The only similarity I intended to put accross was that they both play in a defensive midfield position. I know they're completely different players. Gattuso is unique.

As if Sevilla hasn't won it last year too

Look .. I am not derailing this discussion into something that fits my liking, but into something more logical

Maradona is no cheat !! His qualities don't come with fouling

What straight answer ?? Ur stating a crooked fact .. That poulsen has class, that Maradona is the BIGGEST CHEAT EVER (just cuz he scored against England ?? btw, the ref would have been the cheat ), that Zidane is a dirty player (because he head-butted Matrix), and Totti spitting .. but Poulsen is a class act isn't he

That is EXACTLY why u cant compare Zidane, Pele, Maradona, Totti, etc to Poulsen !! There is NOTHING in common. They are each highly respected members of the football world, while poulsen is .. Well, just ask that Swed what he thought of him today

If u insist on pointing out that Zidane head-butted or Maradona scored a hand goal (which was down to the ref ) ... At least they both SINGLE handedly won a lot with their clubs ... And yes, that makes everything better, not to justify why they fouled or did anything illegitimate, but they have given football much much more ! While poulsen has given jack sh1t.

P.S. ..

If u want to go on praising him and what not, by all means do so. Just dont pull in Zidane and Maradona into the same sentence. Honestly this is insulting my intelligence. I can't keep repeating myself.

So let's ask Poulsen what he thinks of Totti or Savo?

I'm pretty sure he won't have polite words. I'm not saying Poulsen is great, I'm not even saying you have to like him.

But this whole started when one of you guys disrespected Poulsen. Then you react badly when I say bad about Totti, Maradonna, Zizou and Pele? Of course he's not like them, he never will be either. But he deserves respect, anybody who plays football does.

I don't defend what he's done in the past, but I'm not going to let people disrespect people I admire (Yes, ADMIRE). So I'd appreciate it if you didn't.

N' I'll lay off Maradonna.

Let's sum up the whole issue. Rino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poulsen but nobody should be dirty.