QUOTE (dimival @ Aug 29 2006, 02:43 PM)
He is three times better
accurately three!!???
anyway ... Milan want Oliveira so that they have a good relationship with his agent ...
Full Version: Offical: Oliveira to milan
accurately three!!???
anyway ... Milan want Oliveira so that they have a good relationship with his agent ...
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 11:39 AM)
Oliveira will come guys. They agreed on 18 millions + Vogel to Betis. The official announcement will come after Vogel will have finished the medicals in Seville.
Are you sure? where did you hear this?
I was watching studio sport earlier and from the things I could pick up (because it's in Italian) I know that they mentioned something about this. Or is this just another rumor coming from some spanish paper?
it is stll a rumour.
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2006, 01:53 PM)
Are you sure? where did you hear this?
I was watching studio sport earlier and from the things I could pick up (because it's in Italian) I know that they mentioned something about this. Or is this just another rumor coming from some spanish paper?
I was watching studio sport earlier and from the things I could pick up (because it's in Italian) I know that they mentioned something about this. Or is this just another rumor coming from some spanish paper?
Nope, it's not a rumour. I heard it on Studio Sport, cause I can understand italian perfectly. I'm sure the announcement will come soon.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 01:15 PM)
Nope, it's not a rumour. I heard it on Studio Sport, cause I can understand italian perfectly. I'm sure the announcement will come soon.
Thanks, I watched it, but I couldn't pick up much except for the names
But they also mentioned Robinho and Ronaldo, I thought that they where saying that they where still trying for those 2
Oliveira is Ariedo Braida's STAR !!!! i think that they have a suprise for us ! 
i think that they have a suprise for us !
2,5 days to sign the surprise... oh, it's Oliveira right?
No surprise for this year guys. We'll have to be happy with Oliveira and hopefuly Oddo. Nest year we're definitely going to sign Ronaldinho and refresh the defense.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 02:33 PM)
No surprise for this year guys. We'll have to be happy with Oliveira and hopefuly Oddo. Nest year we're definitely going to sign Ronaldinho and refresh the defense.
This means what? Another season without trophies?
Another 2nd or 3rd place in the League. 1/4 finals in Champs... Semi's in Coppa, and everybody will be happy.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 29 2006, 03:57 PM)
This means what? Another season without trophies?
Another 2nd or 3rd place in the League. 1/4 finals in Champs... Semi's in Coppa, and everybody will be happy.
Another 2nd or 3rd place in the League. 1/4 finals in Champs... Semi's in Coppa, and everybody will be happy.
Nah, I'm sure we can win the scudetto this time. Too hard for the Champions though.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 02:33 PM)
No surprise for this year guys. We'll have to be happy with Oliveira and hopefuly Oddo. Nest year we're definitely going to sign Ronaldinho and refresh the defense.
Do we have Oliveira !
What do you think, only we want Milan to win some trophies? 
Don't forget Silvio, I'm very much sure he is more ambitious then us, be sure. Or you think Kaka doesn't want to win anything, or may be Gilardino?
We are going to win Scudetto this year, I don't care about CL this time. We need scudetto..
Don't forget Silvio, I'm very much sure he is more ambitious then us, be sure. Or you think Kaka doesn't want to win anything, or may be Gilardino?
We are going to win Scudetto this year, I don't care about CL this time. We need scudetto..
QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 29 2006, 08:57 AM)
This means what? Another season without trophies?
Another 2nd or 3rd place in the League. 1/4 finals in Champs... Semi's in Coppa, and everybody will be happy.
Another 2nd or 3rd place in the League. 1/4 finals in Champs... Semi's in Coppa, and everybody will be happy.
If it wasn't for the Moggi system, we wouldn't have gone 2 seasons without a trophy! It's funny how close we got to Juve with all their cheating.
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Milan-Oliveira: Trattativa ancora bloccata
21:24 del 29 agosto
Mancano poco meno di 48 ore alla chiusura del mercato ed il Milan non ancora ha effettuato il colpo grosso atteso dai tifosi: non e' ancora arrivata a conclusione la trattativa per Oliveira, che pareva vicina a sbloccarsi con il passaggio di Vogel al Betis e una somma intorno ai 15 milioni di euro. Oggi pero' sono sorte difficolta'. Stamattina lo svizzero e' giunto a Siviglia dall'Olanda in compagnia del suo procuratore per incontrare i dirigenti del Betis, ma pare che la proposta del club spagnolo non soddisfi il giocatore che peraltro avrebbe preferito andare in un club impegnato in Champions League. Inoltre l'istrionico presidente Ruiz del Lopera, che sinora ha posto un'eccezione al giorno, pure oggi non ha mancato all'appuntamento chiedendo circa un milione di euro in piu' rispetto ai 15 pattuiti, oltre al centrocampista svizzero. In ogni caso, in attesa dell'accordo che dovrebbe arrivare, Vogel ha sostenuto le visite mediche a Siviglia: tutto ok per i medici del Betis.
21:24 del 29 agosto
Mancano poco meno di 48 ore alla chiusura del mercato ed il Milan non ancora ha effettuato il colpo grosso atteso dai tifosi: non e' ancora arrivata a conclusione la trattativa per Oliveira, che pareva vicina a sbloccarsi con il passaggio di Vogel al Betis e una somma intorno ai 15 milioni di euro. Oggi pero' sono sorte difficolta'. Stamattina lo svizzero e' giunto a Siviglia dall'Olanda in compagnia del suo procuratore per incontrare i dirigenti del Betis, ma pare che la proposta del club spagnolo non soddisfi il giocatore che peraltro avrebbe preferito andare in un club impegnato in Champions League. Inoltre l'istrionico presidente Ruiz del Lopera, che sinora ha posto un'eccezione al giorno, pure oggi non ha mancato all'appuntamento chiedendo circa un milione di euro in piu' rispetto ai 15 pattuiti, oltre al centrocampista svizzero. In ogni caso, in attesa dell'accordo che dovrebbe arrivare, Vogel ha sostenuto le visite mediche a Siviglia: tutto ok per i medici del Betis.
Bad news. Apparently Vogel isn't satisfied by Betis' offer and wants to play in a Champions League club. Anyway, he passed the medical tests.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 01:49 PM)
Bad news. Apparently Vogel isn't satisfied by Betis' offer and wants to play in a Champions League club. Anyway, he passed the medical tests.
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So deal is broken?
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 29 2006, 09:08 PM)
So deal is broken?
I don't know.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 08:11 PM)
I don't know.
On tuttomercatoweb.com they said that the Oliveira deal is done and he will be presented to the press tomorrow. So let's see
Still if we signed him we will still need Oddo, I hope they at least TRY to make an offer for him to Lazio
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2006, 08:38 PM)
Still if we signed him we will still need Oddo, I hope they at least TRY to make an offer for him to Lazio
But hopefully not involving Foggia, no way.
QUOTE (shoryuken @ Aug 29 2006, 08:42 PM)
But hopefully not involving Foggia, no way.
If it's on loan for 1 or 2 seasons then that would still be a good deal. Foggia will probably not even get any time to play except for the Coppa Italia matches. If he doesn't play he will not develop into what he already promises to be a great player. If we loan him out to Lazio he will definately play a lot of games that way he will continue to develop and when we get him back hopefully he will be ready tobe a starter for us
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Betis boost squad with Odonkor, Wagner and Sobis
MADRID (Reuters) - Real Betis strengthened their squad on Tuesday with Borussia Dortmund winger David Odonkor and Brazilians Jorge Wagner and Rafael Sobis from Libertadores Cup winners Internacional.
German international Odonkor, 22, signed a five-year deal for a fee of 6 million euros ($7.69 million), while 28-year-old midfielder Jorge Wagner was unveiled to the media after agreeing a four-year contract with the Andalucians.
Betis also announced that they had reached an agreement to sign the highly rated 21-year-old forward Sobis on an eight-year deal.
Sobis, recently called up for Brazil, was the inspiration for Internacional as they won the Libertadores Cup, South America's equivalent to the Champions League.
Betis president Pepe Leon told reporters that AC Milan's Swiss international midfielder Johann Vogel was likely to be the club's final reinforcement.
Vogel's arrival is likely to be dependent on the sale of Brazilian striker Ricardo Oliveira to the Serie A side.
At the same time, Leon made it clear that the club had pulled out of a deal to sign Cruzeiro striker Alecsandro, who arrived in Seville last week with the intention of joining the Primera Liga side.
Betis have received a major injection of funds following the sale of Spain winger Joaquin to Valencia for 25 million euros.
Reuters
MADRID (Reuters) - Real Betis strengthened their squad on Tuesday with Borussia Dortmund winger David Odonkor and Brazilians Jorge Wagner and Rafael Sobis from Libertadores Cup winners Internacional.
German international Odonkor, 22, signed a five-year deal for a fee of 6 million euros ($7.69 million), while 28-year-old midfielder Jorge Wagner was unveiled to the media after agreeing a four-year contract with the Andalucians.
Betis also announced that they had reached an agreement to sign the highly rated 21-year-old forward Sobis on an eight-year deal.
Sobis, recently called up for Brazil, was the inspiration for Internacional as they won the Libertadores Cup, South America's equivalent to the Champions League.
Betis president Pepe Leon told reporters that AC Milan's Swiss international midfielder Johann Vogel was likely to be the club's final reinforcement.
Vogel's arrival is likely to be dependent on the sale of Brazilian striker Ricardo Oliveira to the Serie A side.
At the same time, Leon made it clear that the club had pulled out of a deal to sign Cruzeiro striker Alecsandro, who arrived in Seville last week with the intention of joining the Primera Liga side.
Betis have received a major injection of funds following the sale of Spain winger Joaquin to Valencia for 25 million euros.
Reuters
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Johann Vogel
Swiss international Johann Vogel has made a move to Priméra División side Real Betis Balompie, where he will join striker Robert, who is on loan from PSV. Vogel joined AC Milan in 2005 as a free transfer, but he did not get much playing time. He started nine games and was brought on as a substitute five times last year.
PSV official website
Swiss international Johann Vogel has made a move to Priméra División side Real Betis Balompie, where he will join striker Robert, who is on loan from PSV. Vogel joined AC Milan in 2005 as a free transfer, but he did not get much playing time. He started nine games and was brought on as a substitute five times last year.
PSV official website
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Milan: salta l'affare Oliveira. Si prospetta Drogba
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato  articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb.com
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato  articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb.com
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
So it looks like it's done, and thank god for that, because I was really starting to think that NO ONE was coming. So does the last part say that Drogba could come or just some 'prospect' that will eventually fade away
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2006, 09:29 PM)
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
So it looks like it's done, and thank god for that, because I was really starting to think that NO ONE was coming. So does the last part say that Drogba could come or just some 'prospect' that will eventually fade away
Thanks
So it looks like it's done, and thank god for that, because I was really starting to think that NO ONE was coming. So does the last part say that Drogba could come or just some 'prospect' that will eventually fade away
Go in google , type Tuttomercatoweb search and than click translate this page !
agreement for Oliveira jumped , tomorow arrives Drogba
Last 24 h , love gonna save us
Wow .. It really does sound like it's a done deal for Oliveira .. Still waiting for something official, probably tomorrow morning.
Seeing Drogba in a Milan shirt is something nightmares are made of.
It seems like it went through. But still, I wanna read something on the official site!
QUOTE (Denis_prishtina @ Aug 29 2006, 09:48 PM)
Go in google , type [b]Tuttomercatoweb search and than click translate this page ![/B] agreement for Oliveira jumped , tomorow arrives Drogba
Last 24 h , love gonna save us
Last 24 h , love gonna save us
Yeah I know, but the supposed translations that site makes are even more confusing then actually reading the text in a foreign language
btw what do you mean by agreement for Oliveira jumped. And does it really say that Drogba will arrive to Milan tomorrow?
QUOTE (han2503)
Milan: salta l'affare Oliveira. Si prospetta Drogba
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
It says it's over, Oliveira won't come. Only an in-extremis meeting tomorrow morning may change things. It also says Drogba is ready to come.
I don't get it. First they say it's done, then they say it's over. What the f@ck is going? Only 48 hours left and we still don't have a forward. And what the hell is this Drogba thing? I'm pretty sure Mourinho would never let him go.
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2006, 10:13 PM)
btw what do you mean by agreement for Oliveira jumped. And does it really say that Drogba will arrive to Milan tomorrow?
I am not sure , that' the "google translation
"
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 02:27 PM)
QUOTE (han2503)
Milan: salta l'affare Oliveira. Si prospetta Drogba
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
It says it's over, Oliveira won't come. Only an in-extremis meeting tomorrow morning may change things. It also says Drogba is ready to come.
I don't get it. First they say it's done, then they say it's over. What the f@ck is going? Only 48 hours left and we still don't have a forward. And what the hell is this Drogba thing? I'm pretty sure Mourinho would never let him go.
Especially because they are only down to 3 forwards at this point with departure of Crespo.
Tactically, Mourinho plays with 2 striker/forwards up top. Drogba and Scheva is a dream partnership.
It seems that Milan is the media attraction at this point because they are in desperate need of a forward and defender. Its just a circle of swirling B/S. Whats true or not who knows?
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 04:27 PM)
QUOTE (han2503)
Milan: salta l'affare Oliveira. Si prospetta Drogba
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato  articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato  articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
It says it's over, Oliveira won't come. Only an in-extremis meeting tomorrow morning may change things. It also says Drogba is ready to come.
I don't get it. First they say it's done, then they say it's over. What the f@ck is going? Only 48 hours left and we still don't have a forward. And what the hell is this Drogba thing? I'm pretty sure Mourinho would never let him go.
Ok, one says that he is coming and another one says it's over? Who do I believe???/ Oh, I know I know!!!! The official website!
The Milan, complicated the negotiation for Oliveira with the Betis, is estimating various alternatives: that more meaningful door to Didier Drogba, forward of the Chelsea, that Adrian Galliani has met. For the ivoriano an offer of 30 million euro is ready.
what's this now ! Calciomercato
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 02:27 PM)
QUOTE (han2503)
Milan: salta l'affare Oliveira. Si prospetta Drogba
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
29.08.2006 23.17 di Ilario Imparato articolo letto 627 volte
Praticamente saltato l'accordo tra Oliveira del Betis e il Milan.
Lo comunica Sky Sport non escludendo un incontro in extremis domattina. Pronto Drogba a sbarcare a Milanello.
Tuttomercatoweb
Can someone translate the last part pls.
Thanks
It says it's over, Oliveira won't come. Only an in-extremis meeting tomorrow morning may change things. It also says Drogba is ready to come.
I don't get it. First they say it's done, then they say it's over. What the f@ck is going? Only 48 hours left and we still don't have a forward. And what the hell is this Drogba thing? I'm pretty sure Mourinho would never let him go.
Its strange because there are some Websites that have the transaction as listed. If you look at the post I made in Vogel/Oliveira to Betis in Transfers. There is a site that has it listed as a transfer already with Vogel to Betis and Oliveira to Milan.
Oliveira would be a good replacement as the fourth forward.
If you know Milan they're business men and they want a replacement for Scheva not just for the replacment but also as a symbol that their still one of the most attractive teams in the world to play for. Oliveira doesn't symbolize this to me.
I don't know man, I don't know what's going on. I'll just wait until 1st of September to have the ideas clear.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2006, 06:05 PM)
I don't know man, I don't know what's going on. I'll just wait until 1st of September to have the ideas clear.
I'm afrraid Milan will keep quite until a few days after...
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 29 2006, 05:08 PM)
I'm afrraid Milan will keep quite until a few days after...
can they do that??
Oliveira e Milan sempre più distanti
30.08.2006 09.00 di Christian Seu articolo letto 1904 volte
Milan e Betis trattano ormai a oltranza per il brasiliano Oliveira. Ariedo Braida e il presidente degli spagnoli Lopera si sono dati appuntamento per quest'oggi per dirimere definitivamente il caso. I sivigliani alzano le pretese, il Milan si innervosisce. L'ultima richiesta del Betis, 17 milioni più il cartellino di Johann Vogel, potrebbe far saltare tutta la trattativa: il centrocampista elvetico ha rifiutato seccamente l'offerta del Betis, che gli avrebbe offerto un ingaggio ridotto di circa la metà rispetto a quello attualmente percepito a Milano. I rossoneri sono pronti a tornare alla carica per Ronaldo, con un avversario in meno: l'Inter, che dopo le dichiarazioni di Moratti su Adriano, pare essersi ritirata dalla contesa.
Translaters please..
30.08.2006 09.00 di Christian Seu articolo letto 1904 volte
Milan e Betis trattano ormai a oltranza per il brasiliano Oliveira. Ariedo Braida e il presidente degli spagnoli Lopera si sono dati appuntamento per quest'oggi per dirimere definitivamente il caso. I sivigliani alzano le pretese, il Milan si innervosisce. L'ultima richiesta del Betis, 17 milioni più il cartellino di Johann Vogel, potrebbe far saltare tutta la trattativa: il centrocampista elvetico ha rifiutato seccamente l'offerta del Betis, che gli avrebbe offerto un ingaggio ridotto di circa la metà rispetto a quello attualmente percepito a Milano. I rossoneri sono pronti a tornare alla carica per Ronaldo, con un avversario in meno: l'Inter, che dopo le dichiarazioni di Moratti su Adriano, pare essersi ritirata dalla contesa.
Translaters please..
We better get Drogba, if it's reallity. We better do that.
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Aug 30 2006, 11:38 AM)
We better get Drogba, if it's reallity. We better do that.
What !!! Why ?!
QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Aug 30 2006, 11:28 AM)
Oliveira e Milan sempre più distanti
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It says that Betis want Vogel to be included in the Oliveira transfer but the Swiss, who has already passed a medical, doesn't accept the wage Betis offer (which is half what Milan pay him now) and so the deal is probably scr3w3d up!!! Milan might even go back to chasing Ronaldo and now Inter seems to be out of their way ...
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 30 2006, 12:41 PM)
What !!! Why ?!
Because Drogba is much better striker.
Everything was done, Oliveira was ready to sign, Betis was going to get 18 millions + Vogel. But then, at the very last moments, that @sshole of De Lopera asked something else besides the actual offer which pissed off Braida who left Seville immediately and came back to Milan. I consider the negotiations over, and from what I heard, we have nobody to sign right now. Chelsea refused our 30 millions offer for Drogba saying it's too late to find a replacement for him, and they're right. I hope our board understands what happens when you leave things for the last minutes. Only a throwback to Ronaldo may bring us a new striker, cause 70% of the possibilities we're not going to buy anyone.
But Oliveira is official or not? (I'm in vacations... less time down here).
Oliveira + Drogba to Milan?
1 foward place missing in Chelsea » Tevez?
Anyway... 1,5 day to go... to close the fekin' transfer window.
Oliveira + Drogba to Milan?
1 foward place missing in Chelsea » Tevez?
Anyway... 1,5 day to go... to close the fekin' transfer window.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 30 2006, 06:04 PM)
Oliveira + Drogba to Milan?
enjoy your vacation ... this is a bad place to be these days!!!!
I know. I'm here... 3 metres from the pool. 32ºc, (bad) wireless connection... :XIt seems that Carletto Ancelotti said today "Oliveira is good. Him or no other will arrive"
where in God's green earth are you???? 
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2006, 03:35 PM)
where in God's green earth are you????
In my family's beach-house in Algarve (South of Portugal... almost Africa.
)Usually the English people know this word very well - Algarve.
It's like 90% foreigners, 10% portuguese.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 30 2006, 06:39 PM)
In my family's beach-house in Algarve (South of Portugal... almost Africa. )
)and you have a pool there too!!!???
QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 30 2006, 06:39 PM)
It's like 90% foreigners, 10% portuguese.
well this summer it was (is) like 90% Italians, 10% Not Greeks in the Greek islands ...
Italians were everywhere singing 'Campioni Del Mondo, Campioni Del Mondo' ...
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 30 2006, 03:39 PM)
Usually the English people know this word very well - Algarve.
Lovely place
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2006, 04:44 PM)
and you have a pool there too!!!???
well this summer it was (is) like 90% Italians, 10% Not Greeks in the Greek islands ...
Italians were everywhere singing 'Campioni Del Mondo, Campioni Del Mondo' ...
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well this summer it was (is) like 90% Italians, 10% Not Greeks in the Greek islands ...
Italians were everywhere singing 'Campioni Del Mondo, Campioni Del Mondo' ...
...
Hmm...Croatia was also full of Italians...Interisti mostly
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