QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 1 2013, 11:19 PM)

Theres no other way to play.
We tried 4312, we couldn't win a game. Only when we switched to 433 did we have some success. Sure playing 3 CF in an attacking 3 is foolish but right now there is no other choice. Its better to play a more direct style to 3 strikers than to play a creative game through a non existent midfield. At least the first way our defence isn't getting constantly exposed.
4312 imo is an outdated system and only works if we have the right players while 433 can be virtually used with anyone. Its not hard to find somone fast and play counter or find someone creative and put him out wide to dribble. Its hard though to find someone who is able to create in the center of the field, where the pressure is the highest.
Dribbling, vision and a good passing ability is rare these days and goes for quite the price.
We tried 4-3-1-2 and every other formation in the book - including the 4-3-3 - and none worked, because the formation wasn't the problem during that time. I was everything from the players to even just some cohesive passing that even a sunday league team would have been better at. We were a huge mess at the beginning of the season. It wasn't the formation that was the problem.
Outdated? Italy play a 4-3-1-2 and they went on to the Euro finals playing some great stuff. Imo, no formation is outdated as long as the coach knows how to apply it and make it work. For example, the 3-man defense system is becoming stylish in Italy, but imo, onlu Napoli and Juve know how to make it work well. The 4-2-3-1, Mourinho makes it look like an innovative formation while other teams who tried it it does not work so well even if they had the right players for it. Mourinho also made it work with Eto'o on the wing. The 4-3-3, who plays a 4-3-3 better than Barca? Imo the formation is irrelevant as long as the man applying the tactics knows how to make it work well. We tried a 3-man backline and it failed spactacularly, because our composition on the pitch was one huge mess, simply because Allegri could not apply it properly.
Our problem with the 4-3-3 is because the wide players are always too wide. They basically run along the touchline. And this wouldn't be too much of a problem had the wide players been ACTUAL wingers, but when you have 2 CFs playing so wide then it creates the problems we currently have
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 2 2013, 12:08 AM)

I don't think the reason we lost those games was because we were playing 4-3-1-2, and I don't think it's an outdated system. We were simply in a crap moment back then. We were lost, we didn't have confidence in ourselves and in our coach. Now things have changed, we have high morale and play a much better football. But playing SES and Niang on the wings is clearly not the way to go. If we played instead Bojan behind the strikers and also act as a sort of 'fake 9' a la Messi, things would work so much better. We lack creativity up-front, and Bojan is about the only forward we have with a little vision (forget Robinho, he's a lost cause). Or at the very least play him on the right wing, not friggin' Niang!
Exactly