The merda killer

Tonight will be a disappointing night. I can feel it

Be more positive! Anything and everything is possible. I think we can win.

If Inter were still under Ranieri I'd day that we'd lose, because no matter how cr@ppy he is at times, he always manages to get one over us. But I have a bit more hope for tonight. I really can't see this Inter trying to park the bus like they did in the first game. Because that's all they did in that game, they just got lucky on that Milito goal. The team needs to work hard, just 2 more matches, I know they're all dead tired at this point, but I don't want to end this season with even more regrets than we already have right now. If we don't win this and Juve somehow manage to drop points than it will be crushing

Not a lot of hope for victory. We have never really come through in the big games this season.

Doubled Roma. beat Arsenal. robbed of a victory against Juve... and I don't think any of us expected us to beat Barca. you should say we have rarely com through in the big games not never.

If we beat Inter tonight we will have done well in the big games. given our injuries and all.

Won against Roma twice
Won against Arsenal
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Lost to Arsenal
Lost to Barcelona twice
Lost to Juventus twice
Lost to Inter
Lost to Napoli
Lost to Lazio

Isn't it obvious?

Never really got to play with all of our players available this season.

Isn't it obvious?

We were hugely handicapped by our injuries. Cassano alone would've made a lot of difference in some of those games.

The point remains, though.

So does my point about the injuries.

I think the problem is a combination of all the factors but all you see and blame is Max, Max and Max.

No. First Jack says we mostly lost against harder opponents. Then you say it isn't true showing how we won against Roma and Arsenal. Then I give you our ration, and as soon as that happens you run to excuses.

As X-O said, the point stays, no matter how much excuses are at hand. Our roster isn't complete today as well. So what?

Problem is, your point wasn't about injuries, it was about denying that we have a bad ratio with big teams.

And yes, it is a combination. But someone got to be blamed, and Max is the one who's the coach.

Who else is there to blame? The God who made all these injuries happen? The doctors? Surely, at some point, yes. But fact also remains that Milan has a capable squad with world class players, yet plays most of the season badly, sometimes unwatchable. Problem remains that the squad selection is almost every match questionable, and that when Milan slips, Allegri usually must change 2-3 things immediately. Problem is that he created a petrified system that is completely in-adaptable to any outside element - be it injuries, technical capabilities of players or different approaches of our opponents. Finally, I really think Allegri's training session has to do with at least 50% of our injuries.

Why am I not interested in this fixture?

Not feeling the derby vibes and not interested in the end result, as I see it Juventus have already won their fixture

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Jack said we never really won the big games and I pointed out the ones we did, listing their names.

And I'm a Milan fan before I'm an Allegri fan. what makes you think I saying injuries ruined our season is an excuse but you saying Allegri ruined our season isn't?


Inter have been crappy all season long but you still consider our game with them "big". there have been quite a few games this season with the same level of difficulty as the derby that we've won, but no one considers them big.

If we beat Inter tonight, it'll be something like "they're so bad, no big deal". if we lose, "yet another big games lost, off with Allegri's head"

Also I find one thing very funny, according to you the loss to Lazio is a big game lost but the win against Udinese (they're arguably better than Lazio) is not a big game won. isn't that contradictory?

You're now grasping to straws, but I must acknowledge your determination


I don't get the question. To me, Allegri is the top reason, and I blame him partially for the injuries as well. That's it.


The Madoninna derby is always big, no matter what. The stakes make it even higher, considering both sides have much to loose. Did we play such matches this season? Under so much pressure, with only 1 match left to repair a mistake? I don't think so. At least not "quite a few".


You know me very well, and you know I'll celebrate the victory with spirit and won't act as you suggested.


Sorry, I made that error. So 1 more win in the win section. The difference is immense.

You have to be able to play with your best team consistently to form a winning mentality and gain momentum.

If it's proven that Allegri's training methods are the reason we have so many injuries, then yes, you can blame him as I will (just because you "think" doesn't mean its' true). but to blame him for not being able to win consistently with a squad that literally changed every few week, no. not in my book.

But my only option is to think. I don't know the conditions or the responsibility of MilanLab doctors. Even less then I know what's Allegri doing in training.

LOL, you pullin' my leg? I mentioned our injuries in that post. perhaps you didn't read it thoroughly.


When did I run to excuses?


What I meant is that you think I'm trying to defend Allegri when I say injuries screwed us, whereas I really believe that is the main reason we came short in some big games. (I don't count the Barca meetings though. they were better than us, plain and simple.)


Well, technically speaking this game means as much to our Scudetto hopes as the Atalanta game or any other game with 3 points!

I think tonight's derby is big indeed. when we lost the last derby there was all the time in the world to recover 3 points, but now there isn't. which makes this much more a big game than that one.


Yep.. fair enough.

Same right now.

At this point it's hard to get excited. I just want this season from hell to be over with at this point. I certainly don't see Juve losing points against Cagliari.

Point stays, did we or did we not loose many points against the big ones?


Is it? You really wanna disregard the pressure of a city derby? You think Atalanta had the same motive and the same mental set as it will be the case with Inter. I disagree.

You didn't see Juve loosing to Lecce either. What's the point of making these predictions?

Still refuse to admit you got a bit wrong when you said I ran to excuses when I'd made that "excuse" from the very beginning. oh well...


Read my edited post.

They didn't lose

They only drew with Lecce because of an isolated mistake, can you really see that happening again?

To answer this question:



Problem is league games rarely get as big as this derby or our 6-pointer with Juve. because as I said even if you lose to Juve in the first half of the season you still have time to recover. and technically a game with Juve or Inter means as much to the table as a game with Palermo or Napoli. most of our games with Roma, Inter and Juve are big only by name. especially when you think how much Roma and Inter have sucked. there's two exceptions which I mentioned above, tonight's derby (result remains to be seen) and the 6-pointer against Juve (drew, but robbed of a win).

Unlike league games are the CL games especially the knockout stages where one false steps means you're out. I think our games with Barca were big, so were our games with Arsenal.

I give it to you, it was my mistake. But point is, we lost considerably more then we won.


Yes. I can see everything happen what's possible, I don't tend to calculate the possibilities and then go with the biggest percentage. I agree it will be hard, but what's the point in predicting? It's just a mental fail-safe in case we loose, so the defeat won't hurt as much. But I'm passionate for Milan and every defeat hurts, no matter if the lost scudetto is already fixed in my mind or not.

Well they did loose, or at least Buffon did. Seriously, losing was the first and last English language mistake I ever made, it was way back in my first commercial project (about weight loss). And right at the very start of the page, I misspelled "serious about losing weight?" as "serious about loosing weight".

The guy who reviewed it went, what, that's a typo. There haven't been any more typos after that for me, luckily. Or at least I try to minimize them as much as I can. But yeah, I do have hope that Cagliari will try and keep those idiots in check. Atalanta I am not as confident, because I heard there is an issue about buying a player with Juventus.

Atalanta has a clause in the sale of Padoin to Juventus (€4.5M) of €500,000 if and only if Juve wins the league.

Here's another point for you: with our key players available throughout the season we might have won some of them as well. despite Allegri!

1) This is more of a perception and philosophy question. You tend to cite the technical side. I say it's always important and special against Inter and Juventus, and against the Roman teams. It's because the fans expect and see it as a derby, especially in Italy. I remember Milan fans saying the season of 1999/2000 was their best in the whole decade, based on our big win against Inter. They are technically speaking wrong, but I can see where they come from.

So you can ask any Italian Milan fan if we did good this year against big opposition, I don't doubt there will be many different answers.

2) Okay. Let's see our CL record: 2 lost, 1 drawn, 1 won. Not exactly staggering.

What the...?

1) Quite the contrary; we beat Inter home & away last season yet I remember the importance of those games being questioned by some here because Inter were shitty. you consider games with big name teams big no matter their form. but some don't. like you said different people have different perceptions of a "big game".

2) Not exactly bad either, given that we had some key absentees.

You see, we could go on and on, it will never end. you can always question our record in big games and I can always point out our injury problems.

Wanna end it here?

Yes, and with Atalanta not fighting relegation, or competing for a Europa League berth, I wonder why have the final match at all. Stupid, stupid clause, and that too comes to bit us in behind on the last match day. If Cagliari can't do the job today (draw, or somehow win against Juventus), then no one will.

Because I can't see them squandering amounts like these in millions, just for the sake of sportsmanship.

Oh, and by the same token Totti. For the penalty miss against Juventus. I know that would still have tied them with us, but nevertheless it would have counted as a 2-1 loss for the turds from Turin.

As things stand they will become only the second team in Italy to win a Scudetto undefeated. After us.

Yes and no. But let's say yes for the sake of others

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I hope they remain undefeated for so long that they'll break our record, but in turn we win the Scudetto.





In other news, another bad luck has struck us, Napoli lost to Bologna. goes without saying if they'd won, Inter would have nothing to play for tonight except their pride. but now the 4th CL spot is at stake. though they have about 3.5% chance of getting it!

Thanks, but I'll skip tis party. I want them to taste defeat today, and that's that. Record is safe, Scudetto is back on, and karma will strike again for the good of humanity.

That'd be too good to be true. I'll settle for something less unrealistic

Regardless of the road we choose, let's hope for the best later today. However you look at it, it's a big, big task, asking for a draw or Juventus loss. Those blue and black thugs get one goal, they can effectively get another and kill off the game. And then the freaks in Atalanta, we all know they are happy snug in the middle of the table.

Plus there is the case of their player that they want Juventus to buy too. Anything can happen, yes, but still.

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That's a typo right?

Nope. That's advanced English. I actually meant in professional work, not internet forums. But I am, after all is said and done, only human. Or at least I think I am, hehe.

Boy, this is one weird derby. The weirdest one since the second derby of 2008. Where we needed to win, which we did and then lost to Napoli, and missed out on the CL that year. This one is giving me the same vibes, not in the sense of the results, but just the weight of it all. If we win, Juventus draw/lose, we and Juventus draw, oh man!

Either way, a lot is riding on this match (and match-day), not just for us and Juventus, but inter too!

Somehow reminds me of 2004/05 as well. that damned sunny afternoon and the title decider with Juve which we lost at home. under none other than the great Carlo (sorry, couldn't help it ) and a team full of superstars (though Juve were just as great).

That was a direct battle for the title, this one right now is indirect. but the effect could be the same. Juve winning the title race by an inch.

I'm relaxed, which usually means bad things for us

MILAN (4312) – Abbiati, Abate, Nesta, Yepes, Bonera, Nocerino, Van Bommel, Muntari, Boateng, Robinho, Ibrahimovic.
I don't understand why Mexes isn't playing...

I'm a bit on edge. The defense has me a bit worried, but I'm trying to remain optimistic.

I think the first couple minutes should give us an indication of how they will manage though.

No Mexes? WHY????????

Are you kidding me???!!

No Mexes or Cassano...

This is not good

Interesting night ahead. The door is ajar, we have to open it fully and walk through.