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arivanjj
i cant believe offside wasnt called there. but oh well smile.gif
shevchenko_007
Wat is the point of bringing on seedorf?!?!? How can he help us win this game? By losing the ball every time?
William405
Pipo's hunger is inspiring!
Linkman
FIVE MINUTES? JESUS CHRIST DID SOMEONE DIE IN THE PITCH OR SOMETHING
William405
Nice trick by Pirlo.5 minutes is the correct call.
arivanjj
Piro devilsmiley.gif
X-Offender
sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
arivanjj
Auxerre 2 - 1 Ajax Amsterdam
Linkman
GRAAAAH
arivanjj
stupid goal. but still cant complain
X-Offender
Fair result. We didn't deserve to win, Madrid didn't deserve to lose.
William405
We didn't even deserve to draw so good result.
Dracoris
Anyone still want Abiatti as the starter?
Darunia
We almost stole a win (their equaliser was more than deserved), but still disappointing to give up a goal so late
Boban10
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Nov 3 2010, 09:41 PM) *
Anyone still want Abiatti as the starter?


Not me, probably better Abbiati being the coach mad.gif
William405
Let's give Amelia a chance.

Abate didn't turn out as bad as I thought he would ,but still antonini is better.

I hope this shows the staff that we have to buy fullbacks.It's really weird how we have Ibra,Robinho,Pato and still Inzaghi outshines them all,he showed great attitude.Sometimes dirty xD


CrazyMilanFan
i am happy with the result.... am a bit sad about abbaiti but i think we didnt even deserve a point and with ajax losing all we need now is to win the next 2 games
samira
Group G: Real Madrid 10 points, AC Milan 5 points, Ajax 4 points, Auxerre 3 points
samira
QUOTE (William405 @ Nov 3 2010, 10:45 PM) *
Let's give Amelia a chance.

Abate didn't turn out as bad as I thought he would ,but still antonini is better.

I hope this shows the staff that we have to buy fullbacks.It's really weird how we have Ibra,Robinho,Pato and still Inzaghi outshines them all,he showed great attitude.Sometimes dirty xD


sorry for the double post but FINALLY, somebody agrees with me!
Boban10
Just annoys me that we were on top for first time in the game, took the lead, then lost it again coz we tried to waste time instead of keeping them pegged back in their own half and staying on top, its not the first time it has happened probably wont be the last but to coin a phrase "the best form of defence is attack" ffs

One annoyed Boban realmad.gif
Jack Bauer
Is there a bigger c@nt than C.Ronaldo? That theatrical bulshit in the fisrt half is exactly why people hate him so much.
William405
Meh,I'm more annoyed by the way Real outplayed us.They we're having an easy match,the tactics weren't right.

Allegri should try to find a winning forumla...This inconsistency is really annoying.
Boban10
Highlights for me were Pippo's goals and ALBERTINI in the stand, woo hoo, should have pulled a shirt over his head and subbed him on for second half, might have shown our midfielders how to play (except Andrea, good game from him, except all at the wrong end of pitch)!!!

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han2503
QUOTE (samira @ Nov 3 2010, 10:48 PM) *
Group G: Real Madrid 10 points, AC Milan 5 points, Ajax 4 points, Auxerre 3 points

So Real are practically through. We need to win the remaining games, starting from Auxerre, or we're as good as out.

As for the game. The only people that wanted to win this was Pippo and Rino. Allegri just needs to get out, all his subs were pointless and terrible, Pippo was a lucky call for him and just that, bringing on Seedorf for Rino when we needed to hold that result was just plain stupid.

Rino has the fire and all that but the fact that he is playing terribly can't be ignored, you can count the number of times he actually cut a play out or won the ball on one hand. Real were slicing our midfield like a hot knife through butter.

For some reason we were playing the 4-3-3 once again, ie practically no midfield, and say what you want about how many times Dinho touched the ball, the 2 times he recieved it in a decent area he created the 2 great chances we had. We scored off 2 lucky situations, mistakes. First Pepe and Casillas then the lines-man.

Boateng at most times looked ametourish to me. Looked out of his depth completely. Some of the passing mistakes he made and the way he was just flying in all over the place was beyond worrying. Also Thiago played a massive 40 then I think something happened to him, there was a shot of him and he was limping and from then on, he only ran when it was absolutely necassary, so I wouldn't be surprised if we heard that he was injured again and played through the pain barrier.

The game in general was a big disgrace, we had no direction, no plan, nothing. Allegri is just not a coach that is good enough for Milan. Real literally ate us alive, we just couldn't keep up at any point in time during the match. Allegri had October and November as his big test and imo he failed all of it, we only have Inter left to press on the misery. We only won the Napoli game and again, that was more down to luck then anything else.
Fillipo Simone
Naaah, it still wasn't his fault. Abiati was all in all good, but had his bad moments. This goal is a classic goal you could see 20-30 years ago - defenders played out, attacker in a one-on-one and well...Real got it.

Nice job Pippo, nice job - the mand who misses 8 out of 9 now hit 2 of 2 and proved once more he's so much underrated. 70 euro-goals, surpassed van Basten in Milan's all time scorers list.
William405
Good Night,Bye.
X-Offender
Sad about the late goal, but being realist, we didn't deserve to win. From a technical point of view, we played a horrible, horrible game, which is no surprise really. We have no game, no playing style, no identity. We just throw the ball up front and hope something will happen. Blame Allegri about that.

Dinho was, once again, unwatchable, should have been substituted much sooner. Pato keeps disappointing me more and more. Abbiati could have done without the fluff. Great Thiago, Pirlo, Ibra and especially Inzaghi. The guy is eternal, I love him.

Bottom line, even if we had won, it wouldn't have solved our problems, which are HUGE!
Linkman
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 3 2010, 06:57 PM) *
So Real are practically through. We need to win the remaining games, starting from Auxerre, or we're as good as out.

As for the game. The only people that wanted to win this was Pippo and Rino. Allegri just needs to get out, all his subs were pointless and terrible, Pippo was a lucky call for him and just that, bringing on Seedorf for Rino when we needed to hold that result was just plain stupid.

Rino has the fire and all that but the fact that he is playing terribly can't be ignored, you can count the number of times he actually cut a play out or won the ball on one hand. Real were slicing our midfield like a hot knife through butter.

For some reason we were playing the 4-3-3 once again, ie practically no midfield, and say what you want about how many times Dinho touched the ball, the 2 times he recieved it in a decent area he created the 2 great chances we had. We scored off 2 lucky situations, mistakes. First Pepe and Casillas then the lines-man.

Boateng at most times looked ametourish to me. Looked out of his depth completely. Some of the passing mistakes he made and the way he was just flying in all over the place was beyond worrying. Also Thiago played a massive 40 then I think something happened to him, there was a shot of him and he was limping and from then on, he only ran when it was absolutely necassary, so I wouldn't be surprised if we heard that he was injured again and played through the pain barrier.

The game in general was a big disgrace, we had no direction, no plan, nothing. Allegri is just not a coach that is good enough for Milan. Real literally ate us alive, we just couldn't keep up at any point in time during the match. Allegri had October and November as his big test and imo he failed all of it, we only have Inter left to press on the misery. We only won the Napoli game and again, that was more down to luck then anything else.


+11111. Deserves to be posted again.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 3 2010, 11:57 PM) *
So Real are practically through. We need to win the remaining games, starting from Auxerre, or we're as good as out.

As for the game. The only people that wanted to win this was Pippo and Rino. Allegri just needs to get out, all his subs were pointless and terrible, Pippo was a lucky call for him and just that, bringing on Seedorf for Rino when we needed to hold that result was just plain stupid.

Rino has the fire and all that but the fact that he is playing terribly can't be ignored, you can count the number of times he actually cut a play out or won the ball on one hand. Real were slicing our midfield like a hot knife through butter.

For some reason we were playing the 4-3-3 once again, ie practically no midfield, and say what you want about how many times Dinho touched the ball, the 2 times he recieved it in a decent area he created the 2 great chances we had. We scored off 2 lucky situations, mistakes. First Pepe and Casillas then the lines-man.

Boateng at most times looked ametourish to me. Looked out of his depth completely. Some of the passing mistakes he made and the way he was just flying in all over the place was beyond worrying. Also Thiago played a massive 40 then I think something happened to him, there was a shot of him and he was limping and from then on, he only ran when it was absolutely necassary, so I wouldn't be surprised if we heard that he was injured again and played through the pain barrier.

The game in general was a big disgrace, we had no direction, no plan, nothing. Allegri is just not a coach that is good enough for Milan. Real literally ate us alive, we just couldn't keep up at any point in time during the match. Allegri had October and November as his big test and imo he failed all of it, we only have Inter left to press on the misery. We only won the Napoli game and again, that was more down to luck then anything else.

Yes, I agree on most accounts. Naturally, Pippo deserves some praise, which is reflected in one sentence - I know your big love for Pippo wink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2010, 10:57 PM) *
Naaah, it still wasn't his fault. Abiati was all in all good, but had his bad moments. This goal is a classic goal you could see 20-30 years ago - defenders played out, attacker in a one-on-one and well...Real got it.

Nice job Pippo, nice job - the mand who misses 8 out of 9 now hit 2 of 2 and proved once more he's so much underrated. 70 euro-goals, surpassed van Basten in Milan's all time scorers list.

Well in Serie A he usually misses 9 out of 10 before he finally get it
Darunia
If only some of our other strikers played with the hunger Pippo has (a lot helps when you're trying to break a record). Props to Thiago for an amazing game, he was huge. Glad to see Ambrosini back because hopefully that means less of Gattuso (still can't believe no Flamini). Allegri has a lot to learn, fairly obvious.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2010, 11:02 PM) *
Yes, I agree on most accounts. Naturally, Pippo deserves some praise, which is reflected in one sentence - I know your big love for Pippo wink.gif

Well both goals were major flukes imo, and again, they're mostly down to Pippo's sheer determination, something I didn't see from anyone else, so hats off to Pippo.

Pirlo and Nesta also worked their @sses off, especially Pirlo, who once again was left to dog it out in defensive midfield.

Also aside from our performance, one thing that just totally disgusted me was Ronaldo and his total show of diving, running onto players and not even having the decency to apologise or give them a hand. There was one point where he actually stepped on Abate's thigh. And he knew it, just kept on walking. I don't get how this trash is admired by people and mostly kids
Fillipo Simone
Allegri just should go. He showed us once more how clueless he could be, how bad his ideas actually are. He has all the characteristics of a coach who is not suitable for Milan - he's stubborn in his mistakes, he learns slow and adapts even slower, he has no motivational skills, he's not tactically educated and he has limited vision. Milan simply just wastes time with the man.

We should simply hand the job to Tassotti. Both Leo and Allegri rely on him heavily, he's got experience and knows exactly what the team needs. Under these conditions, he's the best solution. If we pick Rijkaard, we loose Ronaldinho - whatever that means.

Another thing is Ambrosini's comeback, which will be huge for Milan. I really missed his control and stability, and maybe now Rino could get a break.

Other then that I really think it's time to bench Pato. Sorry, Pippo scored 4 goals in three-times less playing time then Pato scored exact the same amount.
samira
Im annoyed by how Milan started to play good efter 70 min and if we did earlier, Real would be having 9 points and Milan 7 points and Ajax 4 points.
WTF happend to Robinho
shevchenko_007
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 4 2010, 05:58 AM) *
Sad about the late goal, but being realist, we didn't deserve to win. From a technical point of view, we played a horrible, horrible game, which is no surprise really. We have no game, no playing style, no identity. We just throw the ball up front and hope something will happen. Blame Allegri about that.

Dinho was, once again, unwatchable, should have been substituted much sooner. Pato keeps disappointing me more and more. Abbiati could have done without the fluff. Great Thiago, Pirlo, Ibra and especially Inzaghi. The guy is eternal, I love him.

Bottom line, even if we had won, it wouldn't have solved our problems, which are HUGE!

I don't blame the coach, i blame the people upstairs who are so dumb that they don't reinforce the midfield or hire a coach with some balls.

How can u say Ibra was great?? He was pathetic... always offside, never looked like he wanted to move, missed chances and that cross was horrible, lucky casillas made a meal of it. Again it's not his fault its the idiots upstairs who are such tight @sses its not even funny... This is wat happens when u get discounted players.
He is the most overrated player in the world. Period.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 4 2010, 12:09 AM) *
Other then that I really think it's time to bench Pato. Sorry, Pippo scored 4 goals in three-times less playing time then Pato scored exact the same amount.

Zlatan is missing all his chances these weeks! Pato should play CF, of course he sucks if he's not the one playing as CF. When he is getting his chances, he will score like a maniac! (unlike Zlatan)

And Abbiati needs to be benched. End of discussion.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2010, 12:07 AM) *
Well both goals were major flukes imo, and again, they're mostly down to Pippo's sheer determination, something I didn't see from anyone else, so hats off to Pippo.

Pirlo and Nesta also worked their @sses off, especially Pirlo, who once again was left to dog it out in defensive midfield.

Also aside from our performance, one thing that just totally disgusted me was Ronaldo and his total show of diving, running onto players and not even having the decency to apologise or give them a hand. There was one point where he actually stepped on Abate's thigh. And he knew it, just kept on walking. I don't get how this trash is admired by people and mostly kids

Now we agree...for a while...


QUOTE
Well in Serie A he usually misses 9 out of 10 before he finally get it

I don't think that Pippo would have scored 125 goals for Milan so far if this would be the case.
Linkman
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2010, 07:09 PM) *
If we pick Rijkaard, we loose Ronaldinho - whatever that means.


...I'm sorry? Did you mean 'lose' instead of 'loose'? I thought Frank had a great relationship with Dinho, and that any rifts were simply catalan media babble.

Now, I do think hiring Frankie might lead to Dinho having much more stellar role, given their history together... which might be bad for us. (Hence, letting Dinho loose tongue.gif)
han2503
QUOTE (shevchenko_007 @ Nov 3 2010, 11:11 PM) *
I don't blame the coach, i blame the people upstairs who are so dumb that they don't reinforce the midfield or hire a coach with some balls.

How can u say Ibra was great?? He was pathetic... always offside, never looked like he wanted to move, missed chances and that cross was horrible, lucky casillas made a meal of it. Again it's not his fault its the idiots upstairs who are such tight @sses its not even funny... This is wat happens when u get discounted players.
He is the most overrated player in the world. Period.

Don't bother with it...

Dinho was horrible while Ibra was great rolleyes.gif Oh the bias!!

Dinho might not have played good, and he might have even played like cr@p but the only times he got the ball, he made something happen, in fact it was Ibra that fluffled both chances that Dinho practically put on a platter for him. But whatever. Dinho was cr@p, etc, etc. Let's put Ibra all on his own on the pitch, I'm sure he could do it all. rolleyes.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2010, 11:14 PM) *
Now we agree...for a while...



I don't think that Pippo would have scored 125 goals for Milan so far if this would be the case.

I'm just talking about these last few seasons, where Pippo has been awful in the domesic league and then pulls off a performance like tonight in the CL.

Imo his record was also a big factor. You could see it in his eyes. He was literally about to combust waiting to come on from the touchline
shevchenko_007
haha loving the sarcasm... even if we didn't get a result I would like to have seen a inzaghi-ibra switch and see how he played with pato's pace at CF and dinho playing the balls... coz inzaghi has way better movement, positioning and finishing ability than ibra... even at 37 years of age.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 4 2010, 12:13 AM) *
Zlatan is missing all his chances these weeks! Pato should play CF, of course he sucks if he's not the one playing as CF. When he is getting his chances, he will score like a maniac! (unlike Zlatan)

And Abbiati needs to be benched. End of discussion.

No and no. Sorry, but this is a bit to far. Pippo played the same position as Pato, yet he scored 2 goals. Is Pippo a winger? No, just like with Pato, he was forced to play something which isn't his usual position. But he scored.

At first I belived it's just the position that bothers Pato. But he's out of form, in a bad phase - he had 0 shots on goal, 0 shots wide, a few runs and passes and a few stupid tricks. It is very naive to say he'll score like a maniac after repeatedly failing to impress or show any sign of good form.

Zlatan, the guy who I really hate from the bottom of my heart, isn't the one to be blamed. He's a selfish ******* but he works his @ss out almost every match from minute one right to the end.
han2503
What irrated me about Pippo (not duking Pippo, but Allegri) was the fact that I was seeing Pippo wide!!! He was tripping over the ball trying to dribble it!!! It just reminded me of watching Hunter play out there. rolleyes.gif

Allegri imo is just as tactically inept as Leo. The fact that we went out with a 4-3-3 against Real proves this to me more then anyting else. So he tries a 4-3-1-2 with Robinho but a 4-3-3 with Dinhoo rolleyes.gif Just ridiculous on so many levels!!
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2010, 12:18 AM) *
I'm just talking about these last few seasons, where Pippo has been awful in the domesic league and then pulls off a performance like tonight in the CL.

Imo his record was also a big factor. You could see it in his eyes. He was literally about to combust waiting to come on from the touchline

Maybe, but I see the same in his eyes every time I see him on the bench. He just has great motivation and will to play and score. You see it in his celebration - which is at the same time always the same and also unique.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2010, 11:23 PM) *
Maybe, but I see the same in his eyes every time I see him on the bench. He just has great motivation and will to play and score. You see it in his celebration - which is at the same time always the same and also unique.

Not saying that he doesn't have motivation, but in the CL it's a different ball game altogether.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 4 2010, 12:20 AM) *
No and no. Sorry, but this is a bit to far. Pippo played the same position as Pato, yet he scored 2 goals. Is Pippo a winger? No, just like with Pato, he was forced to play something which isn't his usual position. But he scored.

At first I belived it's just the position that bothers Pato. But he's out of form, in a bad phase - he had 0 shots on goal, 0 shots wide, a few runs and passes and a few stupid tricks. It is very naive to say he'll score like a maniac after repeatedly failing to impress or show any sign of good form.

Zlatan, the guy who I really hate from the bottom of my heart, isn't the one to be blamed. He's a selfish ******* but he works his @ss out almost every match from minute one right to the end.

And that's exactly what's wrong!!!! Pato is getting 0 shots, our best finisher (BECAUSE HE IS!!!!!!), and Zlatan is getting the chances instead and MISSES THEM!!! Of course Pippo did well today, but you cannot expect him to this on a weekly basis as a starter.

Of course Zlatan is working his Arsch off, he has been our best forward this season, but just not the best finisher. Something tactical needs to be changed! Pato needs to play CF, and Zlatan around him or something like that.
han2503
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 3 2010, 11:31 PM) *
And that's exactly what's wrong!!!! Pato is getting 0 shots, our best finisher (BECAUSE HE IS!!!!!!), and Zlatan is getting the chances instead and MISSES THEM!!! Of course Pippo did well today, but you cannot expect him to this on a weekly basis as a starter.

Of course Zlatan is working his Arsch off, he has been our best forward this season, but just not the best finisher. Something tactical needs to be changed! Pato needs to play CF, and Zlatan around him or something like that.

That's the way we should have played tonight, but again it was the 4-3-3. Even when Pippo and Seedorf came on it was still that stupid 4-3-3. Allegri seems dead set on it. So until he gets his head out of his @ss we're basically stuck
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2010, 11:20 PM) *
Zlatan, the guy who I really hate from the bottom of my heart, isn't the one to be blamed. He's a selfish ******* but he works his @ss out almost every match from minute one right to the end.


Exactly. Just compare the work rate of Zlatan tonight to that of Dinho. True, he missed two good opportunities, he might be a selfish b@stard, but he fought like a lion and deserves some recognition. Without him, we'd be reduced to a mediocre team. The guy makes the difference.
Linkman
Through that reasoning, Gattuso was, has been, and will likely always be our best player.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 3 2010, 11:34 PM) *
Exactly. Just compare the work rate of Zlatan tonight to that of Dinho. True, he missed two good opportunities, he might be a selfish b@stard, but he fought like a lion and deserves some recognition. Without him, we'd be reduced to a mediocre team. The guy makes the difference.

Funny how you always seem to direct it back to Dinho rolleyes.gif Dinho actually won a couple of balls today... No he didn't play well but he actually made things happen when it mattered. Zlatan fluffled his chances, and I'm sorry but a striker of his calibre shouldn't be getting one on one chances on a weekly basis and continually missing them. He missed 2 easy ones against Napoli, against Juve as well and against Real.
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