WTF is going on !!!! red ?!?!?!?!?!!
this ref is RETARDED !!!
Full Version: Milan - Juventus --- 10/5/2009
Yep, Orsato is a gobbi fan. Penalty on Pato not called and a straight red for Favalli. Ugh.
OH
Clear penalty on Pato, and to add insult to injury, Favalli gets red
Clear penalty on Pato, and to add insult to injury, Favalli gets red
red??? Beckhams challenge in first half was worse than that, never a red fs.
...tackle from behind in the box WTF is going on
...tackle from behind in the box WTF is going on
Mrs. Beckham leaving the stands
Glad I'm not watching your feed, han. I'd have sworn at the camera. WHO CARES about her?!?
Senderos for Seedorf. argh.
Senderos for Seedorf. argh.
wtf ref
Senderos 
FT 1-1
FT
we played like crap,we are so damn lucky Juventus don't have the confidence they had earlier in the season
That picture of maldini and Del Piero at the end...
We should have had two penalties(Pato and R80), but thanks to our scum cugini we get nothing, and Favalli's red was a complete joke. It seems dirty tactics are still at work in the Serie A 
Edit: Just read that R80 wasn't fouled but Pato was.
Edit: Just read that R80 wasn't fouled but Pato was.
Depressing. we're miles behind likes of Barca, Man U, Chelsea in terms of football.
I have to accept it. it's over for us. we're no longer a power to be reckoned with in Europe [not that we are in Italy] as long as those who are managing the club don't change their ways and philosophy.
I can see us doing shockingly bad in the CL next season. mark my words. maybe then Galliani and co will wake up
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 10 2009, 09:29 PM) 
Depressing. we're miles behind likes of Barca, Man U, Chelsea in terms of football.
I have to accept it. it's over for us. we're no longer a power to be reckoned with in Europe [not that we are in Italy] as long as those who are managing the club don't change their ways and philosophy.
I can see us doing shockingly bad in the CL next season. mark my words. maybe then Galliani and co will wake up
I have to accept it. it's over for us. we're no longer a power to be reckoned with in Europe [not that we are in Italy] as long as those who are managing the club don't change their ways and philosophy.
I can see us doing shockingly bad in the CL next season. mark my words. maybe then Galliani and co will wake up
We've been behind them for sometime now and until management accept that then nothing will change.
Believe what you want, zeddie.
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 11 2009, 01:04 AM)
Believe what you want, zeddie.
You too
time will tell (if it hasn't already, like Bremen kicking us out of the UEFA Cup)
Is it just me or isn't a 1-1 draw with Juventus worth making such a big deal out of?
Thank you, Locke.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 10 2009, 09:41 PM)
You too time will tell (if it hasn't already, like Bremen kicking us out of the UEFA Cup)
time will tell (if it hasn't already, like Bremen kicking us out of the UEFA Cup)a cup we had no motivation for , remember its the uefa cup
remember the days when we picked up our game vs BIG opponents,geez that seems so long ago
QUOTE (Ry4n @ May 11 2009, 01:16 AM)
a cup we had no motivation for , remember its the uefa cup
That alibi has become a cliche. forget Bremen, remember Arsenal!
Out of curiosity, is there anything other than Pato that you DO like about the club, zeddie? The negativity and venom has been especially thick today.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ May 10 2009, 09:43 PM)
Is it just me or isn't a 1-1 draw with Juventus worth making such a big deal out of?
Usually a draw with Juve is a good result, but this Juve are in decline and we really should have got three points from them.
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 10 2009, 10:01 PM)
Out of curiosity, is there anything other than Pato that you DO like about the club, zeddie? The negativity and venom has been especially thick today.
Perhaps its not the club but the direction that management are taking us! Because of poor planning in the past we are in the state we are now. I can relate to the frustration that Zed.d feels.
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Kalac 6 - Non sbaglia nulla e non poteva fare di più: uno dei pochi innocenti di questa brutta serata.
Flamini 5 - Va bene essere generosi e correre, ma fare il terzino vuol dire avere senso di posizione: salva due gol su due suoi errori. Il terzo, costa al Milan due punti.
Favalli 5.5 - Espulsione (gratuita) a parte, regge come può nelle retrovie.
Maldini 5.5 - Brutto il gesto su Chiellini per un Campione della sua caratura.
Zambrotta 6 - Il migliore della retroguardia: spinge bene contro Grygera e contiene le offensive.
Beckham 5.5 - Prova intangibile di David, forse intimorito dal giallo rimediato da Orsato.
- Ronaldinho sv - Il suo ingresso dà qualcosa in più, ma non sufficiente per dare la svolta: forse avesse giocato dall'inizio...
Pirlo 5 - Invisibile, non inventa nulla nella manovra.
Ambrosini 6 - A metà campo dà quel che può fino all'ultimo prova a mettere palloni in mezzo, ma non è il suo mestiere.
Seedorf 5 - Il gol zittisce le critiche forse, ma non può cambiare un giudizio ovviamente non positivo su una prestazione sottotono.
- Senderos sv
Kakà 4.5 - Ricalato nella catalessi che ne ha contraddistinto spesso le prove in questa stagione: cancellati gli ultimi progressi.
Inzaghi 5.5 - Praticamente mai servito: e se fosse entrato quel colpo, pochi secondi prima della sostituzione...
- Pato sv - Entra troppo tardi per dare qualcosa: forse un po' con la testa tra le nuvole
Flamini 5 - Va bene essere generosi e correre, ma fare il terzino vuol dire avere senso di posizione: salva due gol su due suoi errori. Il terzo, costa al Milan due punti.
Favalli 5.5 - Espulsione (gratuita) a parte, regge come può nelle retrovie.
Maldini 5.5 - Brutto il gesto su Chiellini per un Campione della sua caratura.
Zambrotta 6 - Il migliore della retroguardia: spinge bene contro Grygera e contiene le offensive.
Beckham 5.5 - Prova intangibile di David, forse intimorito dal giallo rimediato da Orsato.
- Ronaldinho sv - Il suo ingresso dà qualcosa in più, ma non sufficiente per dare la svolta: forse avesse giocato dall'inizio...
Pirlo 5 - Invisibile, non inventa nulla nella manovra.
Ambrosini 6 - A metà campo dà quel che può fino all'ultimo prova a mettere palloni in mezzo, ma non è il suo mestiere.
Seedorf 5 - Il gol zittisce le critiche forse, ma non può cambiare un giudizio ovviamente non positivo su una prestazione sottotono.
- Senderos sv
Kakà 4.5 - Ricalato nella catalessi che ne ha contraddistinto spesso le prove in questa stagione: cancellati gli ultimi progressi.
Inzaghi 5.5 - Praticamente mai servito: e se fosse entrato quel colpo, pochi secondi prima della sostituzione...
- Pato sv - Entra troppo tardi per dare qualcosa: forse un po' con la testa tra le nuvole
I assume these are from Datasport. Not much to complain about, but if that had been Dida's performance today he'd be getting a 5. Also, Flamini's rating seems quite rough.
Too bad that two classic matchups (Gigi-Dida, Maldini-Del Piero) that probably would've made the match more exciting were spoiled today. Thank you, fate.
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 11 2009, 01:31 AM)
Out of curiosity, is there anything other than Pato that you DO like about the club, zeddie? The negativity and venom has been especially thick today.
I love Milan! not much the coach, I admit, and not at all the way the management have managed the club in the past couple of years. I want my club to be the best, naturally, and I see we're far from that. anything else?
oh, out of players that featured tonight, I'd keep only Pirlo, Ambrosini, Kaka, Pato and Flamini (Gattuso, Abbiati and a few others as well - like a healthy Nesta) ONLY MY OPINION but I think the rest have contributed what they could and the club would be better off without them (EXCEPT MALDINI WHO IS GOING TO RETIRE).
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ May 10 2009, 11:09 PM)
Perhaps its not the club but the direction that management are taking us! Because of poor planning in the past we are in the state we are now. I can relate to the frustration that Zed.d feels.
Yeah, you're second in the championship with CL qualification guaranteed and the most promising talent in the world on the books. Horrible.
Look, I understand the dissapointment, but is the nihilistic veil of tears really a reasonable reaction? I think not.
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 10 2009, 12:40 PM)
Kalac making me kalac in my pants
WHAT WAS THAT!!!???
WHAT WAS THAT!!!???
+1 piece of Fishdoll's peppermint bark to han for that one.
Not because of the obvious; merely because it was just hysterical.
Normally i would be content with a 1-1 draw with Juve but several factors are leaving me unhappy.
Firstly Juve are utter crap at the moment, we should have finished them off
Secondly we have Udine, Roma and Fio to play, which are all very tricky ties (minus the Roma one, because in all probability they will self destruct)
Also i didnt see the game but did the brilliant defender by the name of Favalli get himself sent off? We make it a habit of getting players sent off against Juve, Gattuso before they were relegated, Bonera last year and Favalli this year
We can (and probably will) loose first place unless we dispatch the aforementioned teams
Firstly Juve are utter crap at the moment, we should have finished them off
Secondly we have Udine, Roma and Fio to play, which are all very tricky ties (minus the Roma one, because in all probability they will self destruct)
Also i didnt see the game but did the brilliant defender by the name of Favalli get himself sent off? We make it a habit of getting players sent off against Juve, Gattuso before they were relegated, Bonera last year and Favalli this year
We can (and probably will) loose first place unless we dispatch the aforementioned teams
The Favalli redcard was very harsh, whoarethepatriots. Yes, there was a foul but De Ceglie did exactly the same thing to Beckham early in the game and only got a scolding.
That said, the team wasn't anywhere near its recent form. The gobbi weren't all that great either, truth be told. A draw is probably a fair result.
That said, the team wasn't anywhere near its recent form. The gobbi weren't all that great either, truth be told. A draw is probably a fair result.
I have to admit it , i had a little hope of catching merda , but after tonight ... ah well i'll be happy with winning the scudetto and cl next year
i'll be happy with winning the scudetto and cl next year
I hope your not holding your breath on that one Nova. With Galliani only wanting to buy old "experenced" players, aswell as our lack of funds and inability to compete with the english sides financially like our board keeps saying, we have no chance to ship out old and ineffective players and sign adaquit replacements, not to mention if carlo does keep on as our coach if his attitude doesnt change were doomed to another season with no silverwear.
Good lord, there's a lot of doom and gloom today. You'd think the gobbi beat us 6-0. (and yes, I'm old enough to remember when they did).
Remember where we were last season, guys - an awful lot worse than this year.
by the way, the bit about Galliani and old players is based on a poorly translated article by a biased writer. Why are people so quick to only believe the negative things regarding the man and when he says somethign positive, they call him a liar?
Remember where we were last season, guys - an awful lot worse than this year.
by the way, the bit about Galliani and old players is based on a poorly translated article by a biased writer. Why are people so quick to only believe the negative things regarding the man and when he says somethign positive, they call him a liar?
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 10 2009, 03:29 PM)
Depressing. we're miles behind likes of Barca, Man U, Chelsea in terms of football.
I have to accept it. it's over for us. we're no longer a power to be reckoned with in Europe [not that we are in Italy] as long as those who are managing the club don't change their ways and philosophy.
I can see us doing shockingly bad in the CL next season. mark my words. maybe then Galliani and co will wake up
I have to accept it. it's over for us. we're no longer a power to be reckoned with in Europe [not that we are in Italy] as long as those who are managing the club don't change their ways and philosophy.
I can see us doing shockingly bad in the CL next season. mark my words. maybe then Galliani and co will wake up
this has got to be one of the worst posts i've seen on here in a long time.
teams rise and fall all the time...doesn't mean it's the end for them. we're 2nd place right now in serie a. 4 years ago man u was NOT winning anything either.
seriously...take the doom and gloom somewhere else.
*Waiting for a Pana comment~ something along the lines of a vengeful striking hand of God etc. ~
Not too disappointed by the result. It's ok. There are worse things than a 1-1 draw with a Gobbi. They've always been better than their current results, and I think for all their problems with Ranieri, there's no way the Juve players would have had the same mentality against Milan.
Wish the referee could have been better though. Still displeased with the Favalli red. Oh well....We're still in the race for 2nd. So things aren't all bad.
Not too disappointed by the result. It's ok. There are worse things than a 1-1 draw with a Gobbi. They've always been better than their current results, and I think for all their problems with Ranieri, there's no way the Juve players would have had the same mentality against Milan.
Wish the referee could have been better though. Still displeased with the Favalli red. Oh well....We're still in the race for 2nd. So things aren't all bad.
BIG FAT IDIOT!!!!! I cannot believe this guy... go to ****ing Chelsea, I'd rather have Terim than you right now!!!
*Anyone knows why God grabbed Chiellini?
QUOTE (Warchant @ May 11 2009, 07:31 AM)
this has got to be one of the worst posts i've seen on here in a long time.
teams rise and fall all the time...doesn't mean it's the end for them. we're 2nd place right now in serie a. 4 years ago man u was NOT winning anything either.
seriously...take the doom and gloom somewhere else.
teams rise and fall all the time...doesn't mean it's the end for them. we're 2nd place right now in serie a. 4 years ago man u was NOT winning anything either.
seriously...take the doom and gloom somewhere else.
Teams rise only if they do something to make it happen. on the contrary, they fall only if they ignore the needs to be competitive at the highest level...
1 Scudetto in 10 years. we sure do rise and fall all the time
It's sad to see this loser mentality's gotten most Milan fans. what are we, the new Inter?
QUOTE (dst @ May 11 2009, 01:03 PM)
BIG FAT IDIOT!!!!! I cannot believe this guy... go to ****ing Chelsea, I'd rather have Terim than you right now!!!
What's happened
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*Anyone knows why God grabbed Chiellini?
I don't; but I remember once I said that I'd seen Maldini lose his cool sometimes. and I nearly got killed for saying that!
Poor Chiellini nearly wet himself
zeddie, you're conveniently forgetting the 3 CL finals in those same ten years. Can you name another team that's got that kind of record?
I agree with Warchant. The negativity and defeatism is getting to be too much. Rebuilding a team cannot be done in one season and if you can't see an improvement over last year then I suggest you check the records. A team cannot play champagne football EVERY SINGLE GAME for every single season. It just doesn't happen and expecting it to happen is unrealistic.
If you want to only see bad (except Pato, who seems incapable of any wrong) then so be it.
I agree with Warchant. The negativity and defeatism is getting to be too much. Rebuilding a team cannot be done in one season and if you can't see an improvement over last year then I suggest you check the records. A team cannot play champagne football EVERY SINGLE GAME for every single season. It just doesn't happen and expecting it to happen is unrealistic.
If you want to only see bad (except Pato, who seems incapable of any wrong) then so be it.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 11 2009, 02:20 PM)
What's happened
**** happened! A man with no balls happened! A douchebag that does not know what he's doing happened!
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 11 2009, 02:20 PM)
I don't; but I remember once I said that I'd seen Maldini lose his cool sometimes. and I nearly got killed for saying that!
He does not lose His temper... I mean... He's God, He cannot lose anything...
I've seen Him get angry with opposition players before but it always was for something grave. I'm sure it was something that really annoyed him last night too.
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 11 2009, 03:57 PM)
zeddie, you're conveniently forgetting the 3 CL finals in those same ten years. Can you name another team that's got that kind of record?
I agree with Warchant. The negativity and defeatism is getting to be too much. Rebuilding a team cannot be done in one season and if you can't see an improvement over last year then I suggest you check the records. A team cannot play champagne football EVERY SINGLE GAME for every single season. It just doesn't happen and expecting it to happen is unrealistic.
If you want to only see bad (except Pato, who seems incapable of any wrong) then so be it.
I agree with Warchant. The negativity and defeatism is getting to be too much. Rebuilding a team cannot be done in one season and if you can't see an improvement over last year then I suggest you check the records. A team cannot play champagne football EVERY SINGLE GAME for every single season. It just doesn't happen and expecting it to happen is unrealistic.
If you want to only see bad (except Pato, who seems incapable of any wrong) then so be it.
How about 1 Scudetto in 10 years?
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Can you name another team that's got that kind of record?
Manchester United. Real Madrid.
QUOTE (dst @ May 11 2009, 04:02 PM)
**** happened! A man with no balls happened! A douchebag that does not know what he's doing happened!
I thought something new happened!
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 11 2009, 02:33 PM)
I thought something new happened!
No. Nothing new. Just the old one-forward-at-home-even-if-Juventus-are-sh**-at-the-back-and-won't-take-Kaka-out-no-matter-if-he's-playing-like-a-Serie-C-player tactics!
I truly hope he gets away from Milan! It must end, it's not working for either side. [edit: Carletto that is]
I give up. zeddie, if Milan is as horrible as you seem to think it is, why are you even bothering to pretend to follow it? You don't like management, you don't like the coach, you only seem to think a small handful of players are worthwhile. Seems all you want to do is complain and criticize. I'm sorry if you really can only see the negative and have unrealistic expectations of the team. I'm done trying to reason with this sort of attitude. If you feel the need to continue to spew venom on this forum, do so; nobody's stopping you unless you break board rules.
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 11 2009, 03:14 PM)
I give up. zeddie, if Milan is as horrible as you seem to think it is, why are you even bothering to pretend to follow it? You don't like management, you don't like the coach, you only seem to think a small handful of players are worthwhile. Seems all you want to do is complain and criticize. I'm sorry if you really can only see the negative and have unrealistic expectations of the team. I'm done trying to reason with this sort of attitude. If you feel the need to continue to spew venom on this forum, do so; nobody's stopping you unless you break board rules.
That wasn't nice. I better end it here before the accusations get any more offensive, especially since I'm not the only Milan fan on earth who's feeling this way about some people involved in the club. if you look any further than the pretending, fanboying, venom spreading zeddie [a few of insults you've been throwing at me for some time now], you will see the others as well. only if...
Never a dull day. Parry-thrust... on and on and on...
Who's a fan? Who's not?
It's a subjective argument. And a very pointless, energy-sapping exercise to make each person see the others point of view.
Let's just drop it.
Ignore comments from the 'opposite' camp , if they make no sense to you at all, and can't further any healthy debate.
Case closed.
Your constant venom isn't very nice either. In fact it makes it downright unpleasant to come here and read this board. I have no problem with criticisms levelled at the club/players/management when warranted, but I also like to see a little balanced perspective and in the vast majority of your comments, I see none.
In fact it makes it downright unpleasant to come here and read this board. I have no problem with criticisms levelled at the club/players/management when warranted, but I also like to see a little balanced perspective and in the vast majority of your comments, I see none.
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 11 2009, 05:48 PM)
Your constant venom isn't very nice either. In fact it makes it downright unpleasant to come here and read this board. I have no problem with criticisms levelled at the club/players/management when warranted, but I also like to see a little balanced perspective and in the vast majority of your comments, I see none.
In fact it makes it downright unpleasant to come here and read this board. I have no problem with criticisms levelled at the club/players/management when warranted, but I also like to see a little balanced perspective and in the vast majority of your comments, I see none.OK, will you now please show me those full-of-venom posts which make it downright unpleasant for you to come and read this forum? the links to those posts have to be from this thread, since you re-started saying all these things since last night. I'm waiting...
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