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dst
Favalli booked for yet another terrible tackle on Pazzini. And we complain about Pato...

Becks out, he's been bad. And look it's... an ogre? No it's Emerson!! YEAH!
han2503
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 1 2009, 04:24 PM) *
There's been no official reason given for Ronaldinho's absence so far as I know.

If he's missing because of some sort of problem Carlo has with him then this is getting beyond the beyond. He's risking our CL spot for next season because he's stubborn this guy is unbelievable

And now Emerson for Beckham!!!! With these subs you'de think we're the team that's winning not Samp.

I'm more then fead up, Carlo needs to be let go effective immediately, we shouldn't even wait till the summer
Tennie
The very unofficial and nasty gossip re Ronaldinho (for what it's worth and I don't really believe it) is that he's not playing because of a drug problem. It's not been reported in anything approaching the respectable Italian press but the rumor's out there.
dst
What's with the Ronalinho talk? Ancelotti said yesterday that "Kaka and Ronaldinho are still unavailable, and Ambrosini just joined them. We hope to recover Kaka and Ronaldinho for next Sunday."
LaPalma
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 1 2009, 04:24 PM) *
There's been no official reason given for Ronaldinho's absence so far as I know.

btw, Palermo 0 - 4 Catania. The elefanti are slaughtering 'em.

Maybe there he was on one or two parties too much?

QUOTE
What's with the Ronalinho talk? Ancelotti said yesterday that "Kaka and Ronaldinho are still unavailable".

Only question: Why is Ronaldinho not available?
dst
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Mar 1 2009, 05:30 PM) *
Only question: Why is Ronaldinho not available?

Because he picked up an injury. Why does it have to be something else? I don't get where all this is coming from.
LaPalma
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 1 2009, 04:33 PM) *
Because he picked up an injury. Why does it have to be something else? I don't get where all this is coming from.

I never liked him and look for a reason to denounce him.
han2503
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 1 2009, 04:29 PM) *
The very unofficial and nasty gossip re Ronaldinho (for what it's worth and I don't really believe it) is that he's not playing because of a drug problem. It's not been reported in anything approaching the respectable Italian press but the rumor's out there.

Well I don't see that as a valid reason seeing as I don't think our club officials would tolerate such things, atleast I'd hope not....

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 1 2009, 04:30 PM) *
What's with the Ronalinho talk? Ancelotti said yesterday that "Kaka and Ronaldinho are still unavailable, and Ambrosini just joined them. We hope to recover Kaka and Ronaldinho for next Sunday."

Because there has been no report of an injury, he suddenly became unavailable over the weekend with no reason as to why

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Mar 1 2009, 04:30 PM) *
Only question: Why is Ronaldinho not available?

Exactly
dst
Flamini with a terrible tackle! That could have been a red!
han2503
Goal

Pato

Happy for him, our only bright spot in a cloud of darkness
RED&BLACK Milan
Pato !!
dst
Lovely header by Pato. 2-1! The only player out there justifying his presence on the field.

Come on we can take a point!!
han2503
Nice assist from Favalli

If he's got one thing going for him is that he can actually cross a ball, unlike Janku who fires blanks
dst
Lovely header by Pato. 2-1! The only player out there justifying his presence on the field.

Come on we can take a point!! edit: steal a point.
RED&BLACK Milan
emesron....flagged
han2503
Goal rule out

Emerson with it
dst
Emerson's goal disallowed for offside. Jack would label Carletto a magician had it counted...
Tennie
(for Locke) Goal Chievo. They lead Atalanta.
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 1 2009, 04:40 PM) *
Emerson's goal disallowed for offside. Jack would label Carletto a magician had it counted...

laugh.gif

I though it counted for a minute and my first thought was lucky, lucky Carlo
han2503
The only question is, why do we play only after we're down by the odd goal or 2, it's rediculous, I always thought this was a team of professionals
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 1 2009, 03:23 PM) *
No no, it get's even better then the xmas tree, its a 4-4-1-1 with Seedorf playing as the supporting striker, now if that's not genius I don't know what is rolleyes.gif


So we're playing our slowest player behind our fastest player!?!? Genius laugh.gif

With any luck carlo will be gone tonight smile.gif
han2503
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Mar 1 2009, 04:43 PM) *
So we're playing our slowest player behind our fastest player!?!? Genius laugh.gif

With any luck carlo will be gone tonight smile.gif

That's my only true wish in life atm
han2503
5 minutes added on

Unbelievable

Carlo is one lucky sob
Tennie
Make that 2 for Chievo - they converted a penalty too.
han2503
Big miss by Pippo had a good chance bu it was an awful touch
han2503
1 minutes to salvage our blushes
dst
Foul on a good position. LET PATO TAKE IT!
dst
Oh my what did Pirlo do there?
Tennie
They did and it hit the wall.

FT Samp 2 - 1 Milan.

Shameful display.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 1 2009, 03:48 PM) *
5 minutes added on

Unbelievable

Carlo is one lucky sob


carlo is lucky that we are so sentimental/cheap as any other club would have fired him long before now.
han2503
What a mess with that golden opportunity of a free-kick

Why didn't Pirlo just take it? Intead they passed it around a hundred times and then Pato took a shot that was obviously blocked
dst
2-1 FT.

Number of players worthy of wearing the glorious shirt: 1: Alexandre Pato.

Another awful display that clearly showed our lack of motivation. Our players did little today but our coach is the bigger underperformer of the season!
MizNelson
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 1 2009, 07:53 AM) *
They did and it hit the wall.

FT Samp 2 - 1 Milan.

Shameful display.

And now fourteen points in the gutter. I guess Signore Galliani's watchtower approach to training sessions has started paying dividends already.
Habitant
thank god i slept biggrin.gif

@ result laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

@ DST do we even have a coach?, last time i checked we had a bump on a log.

and king.gif @ pato, the only one on this team having a good season.
MizNelson
Beckham has absolutely tanked ever since Galliani (I think) openly declared that Milan wanted to keep him.
Fillipo Simone
Ahh, Pirlo messed it up. This season is becoming very hard to watch. Milan needs an enema.

What should we do?

1.Reshuffle the non-player department. Meaning: fire the team doctor, re-appoint assistaints if needed, sack the coach if a better option is avaible; Rijkaard, Leonardo, Prandelli...not sure. But I am sure if we part with Ancelotti that Milan should hire a coach with more dynamic game-approach. I've only recently re-watched a few old Cesare Augusto tapes and man...he was dynamic. Milan had already scored 2 or 3 goals and he still was near the line giving instructions.

2. Reshuffle the squad selection. Meaning: part with the players that don't fit the gameplay, either Carletto's or a whole new gameplay. Replace with quantity or quality is the big question?
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2009, 05:03 PM) *
Ahh, Pirlo messed it up. This season is becoming very hard to watch. Milan needs an enema.

What should we do?

1.Reshuffle the non-player department. Meaning: fire the team doctor, re-appoint assistaints if needed, sack the coach if a better option is avaible; Rijkaard, Leonardo, Prandelli...not sure. But I am sure if we part with Ancelotti that Milan should hire a coach with more dynamic game-approach. I've only recently re-watched a few old Cesare Augusto tapes and man...he was dynamic. Milan had already scored 2 or 3 goals and he still was near the line giving instructions.

2. Reshuffle the squad selection. Meaning: part with the players that don't fit the gameplay, either Carletto's or a whole new gameplay. Replace with quantity or quality is the big question?

Agreed.

And once a new coach arrives Galliani should finally release the death grip he has on this team and let the new coach be the one in charge of who to let go and who to bring in. The transfers not being Carlo's choices is imo, one of the big reasons for being in this mess in the first place. Although that one then goes back to the fact that Carlo let's them walk all over him and should have stood up to them and asked for what he wanted not took whatever he recieved without complaint
MizNelson
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 1 2009, 08:09 AM) *
Carlo lets them walk all over him and should have stood up to them and asked for what he wanted not took whatever he received without complaint

I think Carlo's being a yes man to B&G has extended his Milan stint as much as anything. If he were an obnoxious go-getter like Mourinho, he might've been canned after Istanbul.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 1 2009, 05:12 PM) *
I think Carlo's being a yes man to B&G has extended his Milan stint as much as anything. If he were an obnoxious go-getter like Mourinho, he might've been canned after Istanbul.

I don't think it's that simple. Many factors lead us to stick with Ancelotti. Some of them still do. We'll see..
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2009, 05:15 PM) *
I don't think it's that simple. Many factors lead us to stick with Ancelotti. Some of them still do. We'll see..

Atm I can't see any to tell you the truth, the longer he stays the more damage the new coach will have to undo
Rivaldo
I'm not sure Kaka may absolutely change game of this Milan....but another miserable game without Ricky....
CrazyMilanFan
no press confernece or anything yet
Fillipo Simone
I don't think there is a reason we should (now) rush and sack Carletto right this moment. At the end of the season maybe ways will part, but that has to be reconsidered thorowly.

Or maybe now, so we could use the last few fixtures as a Leonardo probation? I'm against it for many reasons, just want to see other opinions as well.
whoarethepatriots
Pato deserved his goal. He does not deserve the team mates around him
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2009, 06:40 PM) *
I don't think there is a reason we should (now) rush and sack Carletto right this moment. At the end of the season maybe ways will part, but that has to be reconsidered thorowly.

Or maybe now, so we could use the last few fixtures as a Leonardo probation? I'm against it for many reasons, just want to see other opinions as well.

I'm also against the idea of changing coaches during the season, but atm, the more Carlo stays the worse it's going to get.

I think giving Leonardo a chance now could be a good idea
dst
Costacurta now, SAF in the summer! tongue.gif

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2009, 06:15 PM) *
I don't think it's that simple. Many factors lead us to stick with Ancelotti. Some of them still do. We'll see..

I'm quite sure it's that simple. He would have gone some time ago if it was not for that factor.
kurtsimonw
I'm thinking it's best to get rid of him now.
Bluesummers
All i can say is can't wait for kaka to be back next game. Without him, this team cannot do anything.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 1 2009, 08:15 PM) *
I'm quite sure it's that simple. He would have gone some time ago if it was not for that factor.

So what? I still don't agree it's just that, but let's say it is. Why should a coach confront Galliani&Berlusconi? Zaccheroni did by breaking up the Boban-Leonardo pairing. What good was it? Berlusconi angry not seeing his 2 favorite players on the pitch, a disaster Milan formation, a clueless coach...and? Two interim coaches...

I don't think it's wise to confornt with the management. Especially now that economy isn't doing well and recession has been used as everyone's excuse for nearly anything. Milan's policy is to keep the books as clean as possible and make little deficit; what good would it bring to have a coach that shouts around "bring me Drogba", when, at the end of the day it's again up to B&G?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2009, 07:30 PM) *
when, at the end of the day it's again up to B&G?

This is a major problem in it's own. Coaches pick the players and set up the team, THEY should be the ones deciding who comes in - within reason.
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