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Bluesummers
The grudge match. The match that can possibly determine our entire serie A outcome. The match which carlo can be put into glory or into deep water. The match that can can have rippling effects on the entire calcio.

That match is the derby: Milan vs Inter.


We must win, FORZA MILAN MILAN MILAN MILAN MILAN

Game is 20:30 GMT
Habitant
if we draw it's not over, if we lose yes.
Bluesummers
my lineup:

Zambrotta-maldini-bonera-janku

Gattuso-seedorf-ambro--

----------kaka--------------

---pato----------borriello

Bluesummers
QUOTE (Habitant @ Sep 24 2008, 03:30 PM) *
if we draw it's not over, if we lose yes.


we have a loss over inter. We cannot lose no matter the circumstance. We have to win against inter later in the season and maybe against juve too if we tie.


Winning now will put us into a bit of a comfort zone later in the season.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 25 2008, 12:30 AM) *
my lineup:

Zambrotta-maldini-bonera-janku

Gattuso-seedorf-ambro--

----------kaka--------------

---pato----------borriello


I like that, but I doubt Bonera will play ahead of Kakha .. And I suspect either Ronaldinho or Shevchenko to start this ne out.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 24 2008, 03:32 PM) *
I like that, but I doubt Bonera will play ahead of Kakha .. And I suspect either Ronaldinho or Shevchenko to start this ne out.


yeah to the kaladze i hope he doesn't. I dont think sheva will play. It will most likely be ronaldinho.
Rivaldo
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 24 2008, 10:30 PM) *
my lineup:

Zambrotta-maldini-bonera-janku

Gattuso-seedorf-ambro--

----------kaka--------------

---pato----------borriello

I prefer this one to. But I would change Ambro and Seedorf.
CrazyMilanFan
Carlo Ancelotti can see Milan taking shape, but can’t be happy after losing Marco Borriello for the derby.

The former Genoa striker scored in the 2-1 win away to Reggina this evening, but limped off clutching the back of his thigh.

“It doesn’t seem to be particularly serious and we’ll have to wait a few days to see the extent of the damage, but clearly he cannot recover for the derby,” revealed the Coach.

This was the Rossoneri’s second consecutive victory that sends them into the top half of the table, but not enough to keep Carletto content.

“The saving graces are the result and a few moments of the match. We struggled, Reggina were very aggressive, but we reacted well after their equaliser and deserved the win.”

It comes just three days after a crushing 4-1 victory over Lazio and gives Milan a good run-in to Sunday night’s derby against Serie A leaders Inter.

“We are slowly emerging from the difficult period with two important wins to best prepare for the derby.”

Ronaldinho was left on the bench at the Stadio Granillo and Andriy Shevchenko was a substitute, but with Borriello sidelined it’s likely one of them will face Inter.

“Both are improving. Even if they are not 100 per cent ready, they can still play. I am not worried about the derby, as in one week we have made massive steps forward. I was more worried on the eve of the game with Lazio.”

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
CrazyMilanFan
man borriello is already very important member of the team i hope he is not out for very long we just cant afford that specilly after he started so gud but as he is certain to miss the derby i hope carlo does not revert to christmas tree with sheva as a loner bcoz for these big game he mite not consider pato. We need pato with sheva two upfront for this one as well
Darunia
Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Jankulovski
Gattuso Flamini Seedorf
Kaka
Pato Shevchenko

or

Abbiati
Zambrotta Maldini Kaladze Jankulovski
Gattuso Flamini Ambrosini
Kaka Ronaldinho
Pato

Carlo will go with one of these.
Rivaldo
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 24 2008, 10:55 PM) *
Carlo Ancelotti can see Milan taking shape, but can’t be happy after losing Marco Borriello for the derby. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

damn..... dry.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
PatitoFeo
I think that Ronaldino gets a start because if he cannot get excited about this derby then he has no footballing soul left whatsoever and needs to ride the bench for a while.
Rivaldo
QUOTE (PatitoFeo @ Sep 24 2008, 11:48 PM) *
I think that Ronaldino gets a start because if he cannot get excited about this derby then he has no footballing soul left whatsoever and needs to ride the bench for a while.

well said, mate 96.gif
gal_kenny
-----------------Abbiati------------

---Zambro----Kaladze----Maldini---Janku-

-----Flamini-----Ambro-----Seedorf--

------------------Kaka---------

-------------Pato-----Dinho---------

we should go with this...Dinho's skills can and will be very much needed and will be in need..that's why i'll put dinho over sheva
CrazyMilanFan
we do need two upfront for which i go for sheva-pato but it is very much possible that r80 and sheva start with pato on ench carlo is still strubborn like emerson no cardaccio or the big one favilli not antonini he mite not risk a young player for teh derby
han2503
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 25 2008, 05:25 AM) *
we do need two upfront for which i go for sheva-pato but it is very much possible that r80 and sheva start with pato on ench carlo is still strubborn like emerson no cardaccio or the big one favilli not antonini he mite not risk a young player for teh derby

I wouldn't compare Sheva with Puma and Favalli. And I'm sure Pato will play, he's scored 3 in the last 3, he's out most in form striker, he will start.

As for who will start between Dinho and Sheva, Carlo said that neither of them are 100% yet. So I think both of them will get a half. Maybe we should start with Sheva in the 4-3-1-2, and in the second half sub in Dinho for Sheva but still keep the same system and formation with Dinho as a striker, but he will start his plays from wider areas. Plus defenders will get a bit tired and Dinho will be fresh and can exploit that. While Sheva will be better at exploiting the scrappiness of the games first 30 minutes, lurk around in the box and snatch something from a rebound. He is a better finisher then Dinho so that's why I would start him in the first half.

AS for the defence, we all know that Kala and Maldini will be the starters so there is no use putting Bonera in the formations.
Jack Sparrow
^^^

So you'd have Kaka as trqueartista behind R80 and Pato. I would have swapped that. I think R80 is much better at passing than Kaka. And Inter are not a side, which is gonna give us space. So R80 will have to play behind to open up space for Kaka.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 25 2008, 08:44 AM) *
^^^

So you'd have Kaka as trqueartista behind R80 and Pato. I would have swapped that. I think R80 is much better at passing than Kaka. And Inter are not a side, which is gonna give us space. So R80 will have to play behind to open up space for Kaka.

I think they would interchange positions. Depending on the situation. Inter aren't going to be as tight as Reggina were yesterday, they will try to attack also. I think it will depend on the situation. If R80 does come on in the second half he would be better coming in from out wide and running at defenders. Kaka, Pato and Sheva/R80 wouldn't have a fixed position, they can all play in any of the 3 psotions in attack so they will continually interchange positions with eachother. Pato or Sheva could even drop into the trequartista roles, I've seen Sheva do it very well for Ukraine and I'm sure Pato wouldn't have any problems playing there either
kurtsimonw
This really is a make or break match already.

Win and we're right up there, with the confidence that we can beat anyone, we also have that pschyological edge over Inter as well as 3 wins in a row.

Lose and we're 7 points behind at an early stage. They have the confidence of not dropping many points at all, a few wins in a row and the fact that they beat us.

A draw is okay. Maybe this isn't a must win, but certainly is a can't lose game.
YoungGun
Dinho played really well right after the strikers as we all saw in matches with Bologna and Lazio. So I believe:

------ Pato ------

Dinho ----- Kaka

In case of we need to attack, we may change to:

---Pato------Sheva---

--------Kaka----------
whoarethepatriots
Gazzetta's (early) predicted lineup

(4-3-1-2)

Abbiati
Zambrotta
Maldini
Kaladze
Favalli
Ambrosini
Gattuso
Seedorf
Kakà
Pato
Shevchenko

Nooooo, not Favalli!
Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2008, 11:00 AM) *
I'm sure Pato will play, he's scored 3 in the last 3, he's out most in form striker, he will start.


First of all I think Flamini is certain to start as he's one of our best players right now (@ bluesummers' lineup).

As for the formation I'm afraid Carlo will go with the Christmas tree, with Sheva starting (provided that Borriello doesn't recover in time).

I think this will be Carlo's lineup:

Sheva

Seedorf ---- Kaka

Ambro --- Flamini --- Gattuso

Janku ---- Kaladze ---- Maldini ---- Zambro

Abbiati


If Carlo doesn't use Ronaldinho against Reggina, I don't see a reason why he should do that against Inter... so Ronaldinho to start from the bench sleep.gif

____________________________

The lineup I'd like to see (4-4-2):


Pato ---- Sheva

Dinho -- Seedorf -- Flamini -- Kaka

Janku ---- Bonera ---- XXXX ---- Zambro

Abbiati


^^ Of course Seedorf and especially Flamini play a little bit deeper compared to Kaka and Dinho, which in that case it can also be seen as 4-2-2-2 or 4-1-3-2. but let's not waste our time, it'll be the Christmas tree for Carlo rolleyes.gif

That XXXX means either Maldini or Kaladze as I don't have a preference between them right now because both have made mistakes so far. though Kaladze's didn't cost us, it was much stupider. Maldini's problem is his age and decreasing speed that prevents him from keepting up with fast players. he never makes Kaladzities...
kurtsimonw
----- Kaladze - Maldini - Favalli.

We may as well give up now, that's terrible.
Zed.D
**** Gazzetta's lineup, there's no way Favalli's going to start ahead of Janku!!
drizzt
Favalli?? NO0o0o0Oo0o0o0o0o0o0o0!! Janku or Antonini please!~~ looks like Ance wants to see if he can beat Mancini on sprint test along that flank..

Jack Sparrow
^^

ohmy.gif Chill man....you'll age too fast, if you stay so tensed...
CrazyMilanFan
what kind of injury did janku have with janku and zambrotta we are a different team but if one of them goes missing comes in favilli and everything is changed dont know why the hell did we let oddo leave
Rivaldo
Hmmmm, I'm not sure Janku has injury. Gazzetta surprised me.
whoarethepatriots
Janku isnt listed as injured on Gazzetta, nor is he in the predicted lineup or subs bench huh.gif
PatitoFeo
I think we will start out with Dinho and Kaka behind Pato in Christmas tree formation. Then, when Dinho gets tired, we will sub in Sheva and go back to a 4-3-1-2 (like the good old Kaka behind Crespo and Sheva days).
Ry4n
Any news on Inzaghi id love him to start this match but not gunna look likely sad.gif memories of last season wub.gif
whoarethepatriots
Gazzetta has Inzaghi listed as injured
Il Capitano
If janku can't play it should be, Bonera-Kaladze-Maldini-Zambrotta.
acid911
QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Sep 26 2008, 05:15 AM) *
If janku can't play it should be, Bonera-Kaladze-Maldini-Zambrotta.

Darn, I'm starting to miss Oddo already. sad.gif
Il Capitano
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 26 2008, 01:55 AM) *
Darn, I'm starting to miss Oddo already. sad.gif

Instead of fighting for his place he choose the easy way out.
acid911
QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Sep 26 2008, 06:07 AM) *
Instead of fighting for his place he choose the easy way out.

Yeah I suppose that's true. mellow.gif But until Nesta comes back, and Janku gets 100% fit, we'll always have trouble in defense. Paolo's got all the skills in the world, but he's 40, Kaladze can't defend right if his life depended on it. Tough times ahead, these couple of months.

Attack is our only hope, we always concede at least one goal per game. dry.gif More even.
vnata001
interesting factoid..Sheva's birthday is the day after the derby as well. it would be nice to see him get off the mark for the season, 1. because its about time, 2. its against inter and sheva goal against them would be nostalgic, 3. it would be a nice gift for himself and his son's godfather, and 4. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, you're only getting older sheva! ohmy.gif so score already! and prove that age is all a mindset.. unsure.gif
whoarethepatriots
As stupid as Kaladze can be at times, he almost always performs in the big games. I have some confidence in him

Gazzetta have updated their formations. Jank is on the left, with everything else the same. Inter's weak links appear to be Viera and Materazzi. Lets hope Kaka runs rings around them again. Also it looks like Cruz is playing wide. Does Mourinho usually put him there (Like Balotelli)
Soldier
We Should Play a 4-4-1-1.
There's No Way, We can Stop Quaremsa,Zlatan, and Manicini with the formations we have been playing.]

Bonera-Kaladze-Maldini-Zambrotta
-Flamini---Ambrosini---Seedorf-Gattuso--
-------------Kaka----------
--------Pato-----------

We Have To Win This..Come On Lads.
Portman
I REALLY hope Maldini doesn't play this derby.
Habitant
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 26 2008, 06:56 PM) *
I REALLY hope Maldini doesn't play this derby.

unfortunately your right sleep.gif
KillerMax
I really hope he has a great game like the one against Arsenal in the first leg.
acid911
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 27 2008, 01:18 AM) *
I really hope he has a great game like the one against Arsenal in the first leg.

I pray to Heavens you turn out to be right. sleep.gif
dst
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 26 2008, 11:18 PM) *
I really hope he has a great game like the one against Arsenal in the first leg.

wink.gif

The problem is not any player individually, we do not defend as a unit and we fail to do that against Inter, we're going to pay for it!
acid911
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 27 2008, 01:46 AM) *
The problem is not any player individually, we do not defend as a unit and we fail to do that against Inter, we're going to pay for it!

*cough* Kaladze *cough* wink.gif
dst
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 26 2008, 11:59 PM) *
*cough* Kaladze *cough* wink.gif

That's not a player...

Anyway, I think Ronaldinho would do well if he played, he has a lot to prove. Too bad he's not in shape yet. Wonder if he'll ever be...
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 26 2008, 10:01 PM) *
That's not a player...

Anyway, I think Ronaldinho would do well if he played, he has a lot to prove. Too bad he's not in shape yet. Wonder if he'll ever be...

that would mean christmas tree not to sure if we go for that as for the defence i think it all depends on attack from milan side we will have to score 2 goals atleast if we want to win
acid911
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 27 2008, 02:01 AM) *
That's not a player...

You, sir, are right on this count. cool.gif Anyway, if it was some other player (say Sanderos) he'd probably have received a big bundle of bullets in mail after the number of mistakes he makes in a season.

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 27 2008, 02:01 AM) *
Anyway, I think Ronaldinho would do well if he played, he has a lot to prove. Too bad he's not in shape yet. Wonder if he'll ever be...

You have a point. Now that I think of it, Ronaldo adjusted pretty well in his first few weeks here. unsure.gif Fat and all. I still would give R80 benefit of a doubt, he's had a rough ride up till now. Having said that, I would have liked to see him get some time against Reggina.
Zed.D
All I know is that I wouldn't bet my money on our defense saving our @sses. we need to think about attacking... A LOT. plain & simple.
Zed.D
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 27 2008, 01:35 AM) *
I would have liked to see him get some time against Reggina.


Blasphemy!! Ronaldinho ahead of the mighty Emerson?? rolleyes.gif
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