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I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:37 PM)
who says you cant have your oppinion , can I have mine too please ?  rolleyes.gif

Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Ronaldo were all in a timespan of like 8/9 years ? Chelsea was bought together in 2/3 years.

Who cares about porto , it could have even been Monaco to win it , oelala , the great didier deschamps  rolleyes.gif
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It seems you are only happy with your opinion while you can't take anyone else's into consideration rolleyes.gif

And we spent over £100m in one season with the signings of Rui + Pippo while chelsea spent less than us last season.

Why bring up Deschamps? that's just a pathetic ecuse because you know you're wrong! Porto were mentioned because Jose managed them - or is that to hard for you to comprehend? wink.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:40 PM)
Silvio doesnt seem to fire Carlo  wink.gif  why is that ?
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Yet!

And galliani persuaded him not to last season, do you not remember?
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 10:40 PM)
Yes..

And it could have been Liverpool to win it last year, the great Rafa Benitez.

I honestly don't get what you're saying.  huh.gif
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Don't worry Kurt, most people don't either laugh.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 22 2007, 01:37 AM)
Yes, he was gracious in defeat against Milan, and what?

Did you read Jose's post-match comments against Villa? What about Liverpool in January? He admitted his team were outplayed, and after the Liverpool game criticised his teams commintment, and their lack of heart.

SAF does come out and blame it on people, he and Wenger are the two most notorious managers in EPL history to blame referee's, they're worse than me!
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Ur missing the point. SAF, Wenger and the lot .. But don't come out and attack his players in front of the public !! They do it in private with the player/team ..

Whereas, Mourinho thinks differently rolleyes.gif
Nova
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 11:40 PM)
Yes..

And it could have been Liverpool to win it last year, the great Rafa Benitez.

I honestly don't get what you're saying.  huh.gif
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sure you get it.


since you dont give a f*ck what Jose did with chelsea and praise him for his achievements with Porto , by your logics , that would make Didier a better coach then Carlo if he won the final with Monaco.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 10:45 PM)
Ur missing the point. SAF, Wenger and the lot .. But don't come out and attack his players in front of the public !! They do it in private with the player/team ..

Whereas, Mourinho thinks differently  rolleyes.gif
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I can't recall when Jose attacked any of his players, but I have heard carlo blame his players. In fact Jose usually tried to deflect attention away from his players and that is why they respected him so much.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:47 PM)
sure you get it.
since you dont give a f*ck what Jose did with chelsea and praise him for his achievements with Porto , by your logics , that would make Didier a better coach then Carlo if he won the final.
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What? It's YOU who doesn't care what he did with Chelsea. I see it as a great acheivement, you dissmiss it saying he had a blank cheque.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:47 PM)
sure you get it.
since you dont give a f*ck what Jose did with chelsea and praise him for his achievements with Porto , by your logics , that would make Didier a better coach then Carlo if he won the final with Monaco.
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Dear lord, did it really take you that long to write such nonsense?
Nova
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 11:44 PM)
Don't worry Kurt, most people don't either laugh.gif
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"most people" ?

You mean you & porty ? biggrin.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:50 PM)
"most people" ?

You mean you & porty ?  biggrin.gif
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No, the majority of this board actually wink.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 01:48 AM)
I can't recall when Jose attacked any of his players, but I have heard carlo blame his players. In fact Jose usually tried to deflect attention away from his players and that is why they respected him so much.
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U don't recall ?! laugh.gif Ok, since u love Jose so much, and u love 'big balls' .. tell me what he said after his last defeat, before he was sacked ?? (Hint: something involving eggs and an omelet)

this wasn't even directed at u, but u all seem to fit into one basket rolleyes.gif
Nova
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 11:49 PM)
What? It's YOU who doesn't care what he did with Chelsea. I see it as a great acheivement, you dissmiss it saying he had a blank cheque.
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from 25 minutes ago
QUOTE (kurtsimonw)
Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 01:52 AM)
No, the majority of this board actually wink.gif
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U and ur entourage of leaches huh.gif rolleyes.gif

Give me a break. Don't insult the forum with that nonsense rolleyes.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 10:54 PM)
U don't recall ?!  laugh.gif Ok, since u love Jose so much, and u love 'big balls' .. tell me what he said after his last defeat, before he was sacked ?? (Hint: something involving eggs and an omelet)

this wasn't even directed at u, but u all seem to fit into one basket rolleyes.gif
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Funny because that was directed at shevchenko and ballack, two players he didn't want.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 01:57 AM)
Funny because that was directed at shevchenko and ballack, two players he didn't want.
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laugh.gif (Ballack wasn't one of them wink.gif )

Give Ancelotti those two players and see what he does with them wink.gif

Optimum logic .. And u expect me to enlighten u rolleyes.gif
Nova
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 11:52 PM)
No, the majority of this board actually wink.gif
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oh no ... sad.gif sad.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 10:56 PM)
U and ur entourage of leaches huh.gif  rolleyes.gif

Give me a break. Don't insult the forum with that nonsense rolleyes.gif
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Is that how you refer to people who don't agree with you? how charming and immature, perhaps someone ought to put your toys back into your pram and shut you up smile.gif

With that I'm off to bed as I've had enough of speaking to children, hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to have an adult conversation on here wink.gif
Tennie
Okay, guys. BASTA.

We've all had our chance in today's rant-a-thon.

It's time to stop when we get around to namecalling.

Let's draw a line on this one and go out for a drink. Maybe dst will do a fan dance for us! (*duck*)
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 11:24 PM)
Because Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Rnaldo were all free, right?

Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea. Surely winning the Champions League with Porto is much bigger of an acheivement than winning it with Milan? No?

I'm calling Milan a circus because they're a laugh stock at the moment, I know tonnes of people that're making fun of them.

Doing it to defend Jose? I believe he's a better manager than Carlo, simple as. Why is it that I'm not allowed to have my own opinion?  rolleyes.gif

@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.
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OOOOh gosh!!! You know, I really don't care about people laugh at Milan. You're English, you should be the first to know about this things when it comes to your NT! I knew some people that laugh at Milan in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007. Does people will constantly laugh, till they die in their misery. Who gives a damn about them?? Life is full of those unrealized people...

You know what..? I think Milan is superior to Mourinho. Milan is that what Jose needs, not the other way. Do you wanna know why? Cause we have tradition, we ahve history, and we have success. But not that Abramovich-money success, not even the small-town Porto success, no we have permanent success. And if he want's to prove himself once more, he has to make that step.

But I don't wanna see him here. He is a egomaniac and a showman. Capello, Sacchi and all the others had some disagreements with certain players, but none of them said what Jose said to Carvalho or Gallas.

And really, do you like Mourinho's playing style? Do you like his way?

Oh no, no, no, no,... Milan and Silvio Berlusconi are to big for Mourinho. Jose would eventually break and the whole story would be a flop.

If we want someone new, we need an inside man or someone at least near to us. Capello, Lippi,...there are a few options left.
kurtsimonw
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from 25 minutes ago

I said that because you ignored the fact that he was succesful elsewhere.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 10:54 PM)
U don't recall ?!  laugh.gif Ok, since u love Jose so much, and u love 'big balls' .. tell me what he said after his last defeat, before he was sacked ??
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Jose comments in a recent defeat.

“It was a good game. Villa played well, Chelsea played well in my opinion.

“We made a mistake we shouldn’t make, because at defensive set-pieces we are usually so well organised.

“We were solid in the first half but the match changed after a goal in the first minute of the second half.

“Villa were well organised, they had spirit, they defended well to keep a clean sheet.

“We had complete domination of the game but didn’t score a goal. A point each would have reflected what happened on the pitch but you pay for mistakes, we made our mistakes and I can’t say they didn’t deserve a win because they didn’t make a mistake.”

All I see is him praising the opponents and blaming his own players for a mistake? Either than or I can't read.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 02:01 AM)
Is that how you refer to people who don't agree with you? how charming and immature, perhaps someone ought to put your toys back into your pram and shut you up smile.gif

With that I'm off to bed as I've had enough of speaking to children, hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to have an adult conversation on here wink.gif
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oo my toys are away .. biggrin.gif

Anytime ... `btw, do need someone to tuck u in ? Maybe one of ur helpers rolleyes.gif
misha
Guys, it's really a pointless discussion that just getting personal. Everybody showed their points and I don't think anybody is gonna change anyones minds on this.
Tennie
Thank you for being a voice of reason, Mishale. Have a cookie. smile.gif
misha
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 22 2007, 01:12 AM)
Thank you for being a voice of reason, Mishale. Have a cookie. smile.gif
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Can I play with your doll fish instead? smile.gif
Nova
QUOTE (mishale @ Oct 22 2007, 12:11 AM)
Guys, it's really a pointless discussion that just getting personal. Everybody showed their points and I don't think anybody is gonna change anyones minds on this.
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It's not pointless to defend Carlo cool.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 22 2007, 02:07 AM)
All I see is him praising the opponents and blaming his own players for a mistake? Either than or I can't read.
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No u can read ... U just choose to read what is appropriate.

Now, what I was referring too was the comment that he made ; 'you cant make a good omelet with any egg, you need the right eggs to make good omelet' .. Something like that, he was referring to the players that he has, in comparison with his injured key players.


And the Villa victory Mourinho had little to say about, yes that is true .. So ? It's not that he will come out and say those things after every match. He will say those things when he is in bad rapport with certain players .. He has done it throughout his career at Chelsea
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2007, 11:05 PM)
OOOOh gosh!!! You know, I really don't care about people laugh at Milan. You're English, you should be the first to know about this things when it comes to your NT!

You know what..? I think Milan is superior to Mourinho. Milan is that what Jose needs, not the other way. Do you wanna know why? Cause we have tradition, we ahve history, and we have success. But not that Abramovich-money success, not even the small-town Porto success, no we have permanent success. And if he want's to prove himself once more, he has to make that step.
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I'm English? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I love it when people from unsuccesful, un-historic nations run their mouth. smile.gif

All I see is you slamming a managers success while bragging about Milans. You, my friend, are a glory hunter.

Don't get personal next time. wink.gif
Tennie
QUOTE (mishale @ Oct 21 2007, 07:14 PM)
Can I play with your doll fish instead? smile.gif
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Hrm. That sounds kinda kinky. smile.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mishale @ Oct 22 2007, 02:14 AM)
Can I play with your doll fish instead? smile.gif
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oh ur old news Misha tongue.gif

turns out it's a piranha .. and watch out, she's got a tank full of 'em biggrin.gif
Tennie
Er. Just a point of historical fact. Croatia were in the semis of the World Cup in 1998 (finishing third, I believe). Hardly unsuccessful.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had.
misha
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 22 2007, 01:18 AM)
Hrm. That sounds kinda kinky. smile.gif
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It is if you want it to be wink.gif
Tennie
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 07:18 PM)
oh ur old news Misha tongue.gif

turns out it's a piranha .. and watch out, she's got a tank full of 'em biggrin.gif
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Nono, the fish doll is a fish doll. He's cute and furry and has a stitched smile on his little fishy face.

But he DOES tip naughty boys like R7 into the tank where his piranha cousins live. smile.gif
Nova
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 22 2007, 12:17 AM)
I'm English? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I love it when people from unsuccesful, un-historic nations run their mouth.  smile.gif

All I see is you slamming a managers success while bragging about Milans. You, my friend, are a glory hunter.

Don't get personal next time.  wink.gif
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Calling him a glory hunter while he's defending Milan ?

whats wrong with you ?
misha
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 22 2007, 01:21 AM)
Er. Just a point of historical fact. Croatia were in the semis of the World Cup in 1998 (finishing third, I believe). Hardly unsuccessful.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had.
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England has won it at their home in 1966
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 22 2007, 02:22 AM)
Nono, the fish doll is a fish doll. He's cute and furry and has a stitched smile on his little fishy face.

But he DOES tip naughty boys like R7 into the tank where his piranha cousins live. smile.gif
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biggrin.gif

So he's related ... Then he must be half piranha half doll huh.gif Not even Disney would have thought of such a character .. Well done Tennie tongue.gif smile.gif
Tennie
I stand corrected. Edited statement: Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had in the same time period. smile.gif
Nova
QUOTE (mishale @ Oct 22 2007, 12:23 AM)
England has won it at their home in 1966
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Yeah , back when Inter won the CL biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 21 2007, 11:21 PM)
Er. Just a point of historical fact. Croatia were in the semis of the World Cup in 1998 (finishing third, I believe). Hardly unsuccessful.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had.
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Er..

I'm not an historian or anything, but we did win it. rolleyes.gif

And please don't come up the whole bullsh!t. "That was ages ago, blah blah blah.." Honestly, what is the point of winning something if it's going to be looked down upon in the future?
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 22 2007, 12:17 AM)
I'm English? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I love it when people from unsuccesful, un-historic nations run their mouth.  smile.gif

All I see is you slamming a managers success while bragging about Milans. You, my friend, are a glory hunter.

Don't get personal next time.  wink.gif
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Oh, that wasn't ment to be personal at all, but I wanted to appeal to something I would be sure you've experienced. I mean, why the hell should we bother about people having a laugh at us? Whole Europe laugh at England (NT) for quite some time..and honestly, do you care about it? When you watch a game on the Wembley, do you care about? Sorry if I insulted you anywy,...

Why would I be a glory hunter? I'm not bragging, I just stated out some facts. Should I pretend Milan isn't the best team in Europe? Why? Cause of Mourinho,..? No way,...I'm not slamming his success, I just wanted to say: Jose is the one that would, at the end, benefit out of a marriage with us.

And IMO he does not fit intoour system. We are elegant, he is not, at least not in that family-kind way...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2007, 11:27 PM)
Oh, that wasn't ment to be personal at all, but I wanted to appeal to something I would be sure you've experienced. I mean, why the hell should we bother about people having a laugh at us? Whole Europe laugh at England (NT) for quite some time..and honestly, do you care about it? When you watch a game on the Wembley, do you care about? Sorry if I insulted you anywy,...

Why would I be a glory hunter? I'm not bragging, I just stated out some facts. Should I pretend Milan isn't the best team in Europe? Why? Cause of Mourinho,..? No way,...I'm not slamming his success, I just wanted to say: Jose is the one that would, at the end, benefit out of a marriage with us.

And IMO he does not fit intoour system. We are elegant, he is not, at least not in that family-kind way...
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Fair enough.

Apologies Fillipo, I am sorry. I thought you were personally taking a bash at my country.

I understand what' you're saying now, no hard feeling. I get defensive about England, as you can see. Sorry, pal.
Tennie
I could type out a long response but really there's no point to it. We all have opinions and it doesn't look like anyone is going to change their mind.

Some people rate Mourinho, some don't. Some people want him in Milan, some people don't. Some people rate the English NT and some don't.

But we are all supposedly here because we support Milan. Let's try and hold onto THAT, shall we? And at least TRY to get along and respect the opinions of others.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 22 2007, 02:30 AM)
I could type out a long response but really there's no point to it. We all have opinions and it doesn't look like anyone is going to change their mind.

Some people rate Mourinho, some don't. Some people want him in Milan, some people don't. Some people rate the English NT and some don't.

But we are all supposedly here because we support Milan. Let's try and hold onto THAT, shall we? And at least TRY to get along and respect the opinions of others.
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kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 21 2007, 11:30 PM)
But we are all supposedly here because we support Milan. Let's try and hold onto THAT, shall we? And at least TRY to get along and respect the opinions of others.
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It does seem that everytime Milan have a poor result this happens, admittedly I'm usually one of the main offenders, too.

I think it's clear we ALL have our own opinions, and won't change them, as Tennie says, we all need to learn a little respect for others.

That fish-doll has Tennie owning everyone recently!
Tennie
Damn. Now the fish doll wants to buy you all a drink. I hope you like whisky. smile.gif
Jack Sparrow
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Fair enough.

Apologies Fillipo, I am sorry. I thought you were personally taking a bash at my country.

I understand what' you're saying now, no hard feeling. I get defensive about England, as you can see. Sorry, pal.


DO NOT FORGIVE HIM FILIPPO..under no conditions. Run over him,take him down. He turned his back on Gila...the great Gila...the fallen angel. Oh you going down Pommie. And I don't care if you like Arsenal either. tongue.gif

Tennie...we got someone who's gonna be sleeping with the piranhas soon. realmad.gif
jbryant1
Mourinho has expressed his respect for the greatness and tradition of Milan. I think we should start fresh. Mourinho is a coach that gets results and will create an interesting situation. I would say he is the best option to replace Ancelotti. And I think we need a change with Milan and a new direction.

Silvio and Galliani are the culprits in that they kept giving the denial of the situation for strikers and defense. We are fine. In the end Ancelotti isn't totally to blame for the poor performance, he's caught as captain of a sinking ship and the owners don't want to fix anything.
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 22 2007, 01:19 AM)
I'm insulted that you would care someone like Carlo to Jose.

Carlo is better? Carlo has won alot, but Jose has the UEFA Cup, Champions League, Premier League, Portugese League titles to show, and he's hardly an old man. (Remember he won the CL with Porto, not a top team like Milan - no disrespect intended to Porto).

His home record is unebelievable. Carlo's home record.. Well, his current streak is 'Lost 1' compared to Jose's unbeaten in 90-odd games.

Jose is a winner, he competes in everything, no trophy goes un-noticed. With Carlo, he plays backups in some Serie A games, he treats them like friendlies. If we don't win the CL - we'll win nothing (Of real importance.)

I just don't rate Carlo, not anymore, he's clueless.
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Couldn't agree with you more.
If there was only one thing that I'm TOTALLY convinced about, it's that Carlo CANNOT lead Milan to league title anymore. maybe Europe but no Scudetto, not anymore. he's been here for SIX YEARS and he's won us the Scudetto just once. that's nothing more than an awful record in league games for a team like Milan, a team that used to win it just for fun some time ago!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 09:11 AM)
Couldn't agree with you more.
If there was only one thing that I'm TOTALLY convinced about, it's that Carlo CANNOT lead Milan to league title anymore. maybe Europe but no Scudetto, not anymore. he's been here for SIX YEARS and he's won us the Scudetto just once. that's nothing more than an awful record in league games for a team like Milan, a team that used to win it just for fun some time ago!
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Erm ... Calciopoli ring-a-bell ??

Before last yr .. Milanw as always in the running for 1st place. And would reach April and decide which trophy it wants. That is all Carlo's doing rolleyes.gif

And it is not Carlo who choses which trophy he is going for! It is Silvio who tells them, I want this competition and the team goes for it wink.gif

The sooner u understand this .. The sooner u get that over Silvio Berlusconi's dead body is Mourinho gonna take over in Milan.
Zed.D
There no such thing as honesty from our board and coach anymore. Carlo came out and said "I tried to field Ambrosini as a striker" (THIS IS DISASTER, what Milan have become? is fielding Amrosini and Seedorf as strikers what the No1 team in the world do? are you kidding me or kidding yourselves?! fvck that UEFA ranking) but he never says what the real problem is. he never says maybe we should have bought some world class players in the summer. they never admit they were wrong with their bullsh1t policies. when some people don't have enough balls to come out and say THE TRUTH, they're either "dishonest" with their fans or are "liars". you choose whichever you want, but that doesn't make any difference as both are what one does not expect from the "No1 team in the world".
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 09:32 AM)
There no such thing as honesty from our board and coach anymore. Carlo came out and said "I tried to field Ambrosini as a striker" (THIS IS DISASTER, what Milan have become? is fielding Amrosini and Seedorf as strikers what the No1 team in the world do? are you kidding me or kidding yourselves?! fvck that UEFA ranking) but he never says what the real problem is. he never says maybe we should have bought some world class players in the summer. they never admit they were wrong with their bullsh1t policies. when some people don't have enough balls to come out and say THE TRUTH, they're either "dishonest" with their fans or are "liars". you choose whichever you want, but that doesn't make any difference as both are what one does not expect from the "No1 team in the world".
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Ok .. Do u understand that Carlo doesn't have to say such things in public ?? ONLY Mourinho says such things in public.

If u don't find any closure with the current management or coach .. Supporting another team would be much easier than seeing a change of atmosphere at Milan wink.gif

Carlo has Ronaldo and Pato .. Unfortunately one is injured and the other cant play till Jan. You are just being dramatic.

That Uefa ranking stands for something ... Whether u like it or not.
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