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Mourinho: Forget England, I Want An Italian Club



Jose Mourinho has ruled himself out of the runnings for the England national team job. Instead, he restated his desire to work for a club - particularly an Italian one...

Former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho offered a 'thanks, but no thanks' to those England supporters who had tipped him for the Three Lions hotseat.

Current boss Steve McClaren is under immense pressure in charge of the English national side, with Mourinho rumoured to be a potential replacement.

The 'Special One' himself, however, has nipped such speculation in the bud, first explaining that there's only one international job that would interest him, and then restating his desire to manage a club.

In an interview with English newspaper The News of the World, he said, "I think there are those who adore me in England. I adore English football. But I won't go back there for now.

Nonetheless, the door isn't closed forever on a return to the Premiership.

"I'd like to come back later," he added.

Still, it was clear to see where his desires were focused.

He stated, "I'd like to continue in club management, perhaps in Italy where I can test myself against their tacticians. The national team would be for later.

"The Portuguese national team is an ambition but not for the Jose Mourinho of today.

"Being the coach of a national team is not the same as being coach of a club. It's a job for someone who doesn't like working much."

Adding to his forthright views on international management, the former Porto coach criticised the growing trend for appointing foreign managers as bosses of national sides.

"I'm completely against having foreigners with national teams," he began.

"Not because I doubt the professionalism with which they do it, but I think that a national team should bring together the best players and the best coach from each country.

"The national team is an obsession for me but it will be at the end of my career. Let there be no doubt about that."

Mourinho, 44, has been out of work since his acrimonious departure from Chelsea in mid-September.

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Zed.D
For me, he is welcome at Milan, any time. the team needs motivation and new plans (not old-fashioned ones) and only a coach like him would be able to do such miracle.
armiss
I prefer Ancelotti anyway
Ry4n
QUOTE (armisse @ Oct 21 2007, 03:49 PM)
I prefer Ancelotti anyway
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me to
Zed.D
Remember Drogba would follow Mou anywhere. if Mourinho takes Carlo's place, we'll have the biggest chance of signing Drogba (and many other ambitious players not old and finished players like Emerson and Favalli!).
fresh_prince7
Mourinho is like the coaches equivalent of ronaldinho. Thinks he's bigger than the club. Never been the biggest fan since he moved to chelsea.

But in saying that, can't go any worse at the moment.
I_Rossoneri
I can't remember a more meticulous manager than Jose, IMO he would be a major asset for Milan. We need someone with balls, someone who will demand the top players and someone who can bring harmony to the dressing room - Jose is that man IMO cool.gif
Tennie
I have really mixed feelings about Mourinho. Is he a good coach? Yes, very. But his public persona (which may be wholly unlike his actual one-on-one personality) is just...icky and classless and not what I've come to expect of Milan's coaches. I worry that it'd be one constant fight between him and Berlusconi if he were to come to Milan. (Porty, did he have any issues with Porto's management when he was there?) He IS good at motivating his players though.
KillerMax
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 12:27 PM)
I can't remember a more meticulous manager than Jose, IMO he would be a major asset for Milan. We need someone with balls, someone who will demand the top players and someone who can bring harmony to the dressing room - Jose is that man IMO cool.gif
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The team doesn't lack any harmony. But balls? They could use a pair. biggrin.gif
Rossoneri7
@Tennie ... He is one of the best coaches out there. But not to the standards of Milan coaches ... History proves this, this management has always gone for low profile coaches.

I think for Mourinho to come to Milan ... Someone else would have to be president. i.e. someone else has to buy Milan rolleyes.gif

Who do I prefer out of Carlo and Jose ?! What a silly question to ask myself, of course Carlo devilsmiley.gif
Nova
He's no coach for Milan

period
m1ke
I'd take MvB over Mourinho, even though I think Jose is probably the best tactician out there at the moment. To me, he just doesn't seem like 'Milan'.
Fillipo Simone
Carlo, Carlo,..
Warchant
i think the fact that he doesn't seem "milan" is the very reason we need him. milan needs to be shaken from its core...this is the guy to do it

if he goes to inter...we are screwed
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Warchant @ Oct 21 2007, 08:44 PM)
i think the fact that he doesn't seem "milan" is the very reason we need him. milan needs to be shaken from its core...this is the guy to do it

if he goes to inter...we are screwed
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Excellent point, thing is that Mourinho would shake things up. Carlo is a yes man and accepts everything while Jose speaks his mind(like Don Fabio wink.gif ) IMO Jose would be excellent for us.
agenth
Impossible anyway

Silvio & Jose working together? Very unlikely.

Probably he'll end up with the Merda - God forbid!!!
Nova
Jose would be fired the second he doesnt listen to berlusconi or Galliani.

so what's the point in having him cause he's bound to cause trouble.
I_Rossoneri
Why would he cause trouble? because he's not a yes man? Don Fabio wasn't a yes man and look what happened with him - Silvio almost begged him to stay wink.gif

Bottom line is that Jose is a winner, while carlo seems to be full of excuses and frankly I've had enough of excuses.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 12:29 AM)
Why would he cause trouble? because he's not a yes man? Don Fabio wasn't a yes man and look what happened with him - Silvio almost begged him to stay wink.gif

Bottom line is that Jose is a winner, while carlo seems to be full of excuses and frankly I've had enough of excuses.
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So what r u doing here ?? Go do something about it
Tennie
You know...Don Fabio isn't coaching at the moment. He's a former Milan player and he's a very good coach. If there absolutely has to be a change in coach (of which I'm not yet convinced), I think I'd probably pick him.

Mourinho is a very good coach but, as stated above, the public persona issue is a problem IMO, and indicates he may not be right for Milan.
Nova
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 10:29 PM)
Why would he cause trouble? because he's not a yes man? Don Fabio wasn't a yes man and look what happened with him - Silvio almost begged him to stay wink.gif

Bottom line is that Jose is a winner, while carlo seems to be full of excuses and frankly I've had enough of excuses.
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Uhm , don Fabio returned in 1997–1998 with Milan and failed .

Jose is not more of a winner then Carlo. He's more of a showman , that I give you. Acting like a b!tch when you lose and always blaiming everyone except himself for his loss. I dont think Milan need that.

But since I'm 90% sure he won't come , im happy. smile.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 09:43 PM)
Jose is not more of a winner then Carlo. He's more of a showman , that I give you. Acting like a b!tch when you lose and always blaiming everyone except himself for his loss. I dont think Milan need that.
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I'm insulted that you would care someone like Carlo to Jose.

Carlo is better? Carlo has won alot, but Jose has the UEFA Cup, Champions League, Premier League, Portugese League titles to show, and he's hardly an old man. (Remember he won the CL with Porto, not a top team like Milan - no disrespect intended to Porto).

His home record is unebelievable. Carlo's home record.. Well, his current streak is 'Lost 1' compared to Jose's unbeaten in 90-odd games.

Jose is a winner, he competes in everything, no trophy goes un-noticed. With Carlo, he plays backups in some Serie A games, he treats them like friendlies. If we don't win the CL - we'll win nothing (Of real importance.)

I just don't rate Carlo, not anymore, he's clueless.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 09:43 PM)
Uhm , don Fabio returned in 1997–1998 with Milan and failed .

Jose is not more of a winner then Carlo. He's more of a showman , that I give you. Acting like a b!tch when you lose and always blaiming everyone except himself for his loss. I dont think Milan need that.

But since I'm 90% sure he won't come , im happy. smile.gif
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Funny because I was talking about the 94 season.

And I'd sooner him act like a b!tch then keep on with the same excuses because excuses are for weak people.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 09:34 PM)
So what r u doing here ?? Go do something about it
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Please enlighten me with your greatness or are you just too deluded to see the whole truth...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 09:57 PM)
Please enlighten me with your greatness or are you just too deluded to see the whole truth...
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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Nova
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 10:49 PM)
I'm insulted that you would care someone like Carlo to Jose.

Carlo is better? Carlo has won alot, but Jose has the UEFA Cup, Champions League, Premier League, Portugese League titles to show, and he's hardly an old man. (Remember he won the CL with Porto, not a top team like Milan - no disrespect intended to Porto).

His home record is unebelievable. Carlo's home record.. Well, his current streak is 'Lost 1' compared to Jose's unbeaten in 90-odd games.

Jose is a winner, he competes in everything, no trophy goes un-noticed. With Carlo, he plays backups in some Serie A games, he treats them like friendlies. If we don't win the CL - we'll win nothing (Of real importance.)
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You make me laugh biggrin.gif You really like him , dont you ? smile.gif

First of all , im not the only one preferring Carlo above Jose. So dont adress it only to me please wink.gif

I dont care about his record biggrin.gif Honestly I dont give a flying sh!t. Carlo won enough with Milan to earn my respect. All I care about is that Milan doesnt end up like a circus.

Dont get me wrong , Im not saying Carlo should stay forever , but compared to this Bozo , I prefer him.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 12:57 AM)
Please enlighten me with your greatness or are you just too deluded to see the whole truth...
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enlighten you ?

It would take ages to get you to see how Carlo steeredan old Milan team into being ranked the #1 team in Europe. Soon to be in the world (after the CWC that is) wink.gif

Whether ur fed up with him or not ... It doesn't change the reality of things cool.gif
Tennie
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 05:49 PM)
I just don't rate Carlo, not anymore, he's clueless.
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Wow. That's a bit harsh. But if you're into harsh, I could make equally scathing comments about Mourinho. I've tried to be diplomatic in this thread but to be honest, I find his persona offensive as h*ll and he's no small part of the reason why I despise Chelsea. Effective? Yes, at winning the English league (which I don't rate as highly as I rate the Italian league). I think his CL win with Porto is much more impressive. But that doesn't mean I'd want him coaching my team.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:00 PM)
I dont care about his record

Carlo won enough with Milan to earn my respect.

All I care about is that Milan doesnt end up like a circus
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Carlo has won things so you like him. But because Mourinho's won things with other teams they don't count for anything? Right, got it.

End up like a circus? Dude, we are a circus right now. Dida, Kaladze and Carlo are the main attractions.
Nova
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 10:56 PM)
Funny because I was talking about the 94 season.

And I'd sooner him act like a b!tch then keep on with the same excuses because excuses are for weak people.
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he returned , he failed. The big man with the big balls failed.

So what do you expect Carlo to say ? That his team sucks ? rolleyes.gif No wonder why you like Jose.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:11 PM)
So what do you expect Carlo to say ? That his team sucks ?  rolleyes.gif No wonder why you like Jose.
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Yes, that is what we expect him to say, it's simple logic!

That's how life is! If you don't tell a worker he's sh!t at his job, he's going to carry on being sh!t at his job. If you don't tell a kid of for doing wrong, he's going to continue to do wrong.

Same with footballers, if they play like crap, and you say nothing, they'll continue to do it, why? because they can!
Tennie
Funny, cause Mourinho never blamed his Chelsea players as underperforming. It was the ref's fault, the pitch's fault, everybody's fault but his and his players.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 10:04 PM)
enlighten you ?

It would take ages to get you to see how Carlo steeredan old Milan team into being ranked the #1 team in Europe. Soon to be in the world (after the CWC that is) wink.gif

Whether ur fed up with him or not ... It doesn't change the reality of things cool.gif
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Well it seems that the #1 team in europe is far easier to attain than the #1 in Italy. In that respect fairplay to carlo, but i'd prefer Milan to be good in their domestic league even if you don't wink.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:11 PM)
he returned , he failed. The big man with the big balls failed.

So what do you expect Carlo to say ? That his team sucks ?  rolleyes.gif No wonder why you like Jose.
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Funny because again I wasn't on about his return(when Milan were in a demise wink.gif ) I was referring to when he left and Don Silvio almost begged him to stay.

And as for carlo, he talks the same sh!t as galliani so I don't bother to listen to his comments smile.gif
Nova
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 11:07 PM)
Carlo has won things so you like him. But because Mourinho's won things with other teams they don't count for anything? Right, got it.

End up like a circus? Dude, we are a circus right now. Dida, Kaladze and Carlo are the main attractions.
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Carlo has won things with Milan , thats why I like him. Jose won with chelsea , blank cheque chelsea that is. Im not impressed at all.

So now you're calling Milan a circus , just to defend that arrogant pr!ck?? great respect for our team .
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 21 2007, 10:16 PM)
Funny, cause Mourinho never blamed his Chelsea players as underperforming. It was the ref's fault, the pitch's fault, everybody's fault but his and his players.
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Whereas carlo blames his players wink.gif as well as refs, pitch etc etc

carlo and galliani are full of excuses.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 21 2007, 09:38 PM)
You know...Don Fabio isn't coaching at the moment. He's a former Milan player and he's a very good coach. If there absolutely has to be a change in coach (of which I'm not yet convinced), I think I'd probably pick him.

Mourinho is a very good coach but, as stated above, the public persona issue is a problem IMO, and indicates he may not be right for Milan.
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fair point, but IMO Milan need someone with balls someone who wil demand certain players and not keep giving excuse after excuse.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 22 2007, 01:13 AM)
Yes, that is what we expect him to say, it's simple logic!

That's how life is! If you don't tell a worker he's sh!t at his job, he's going to carry on being sh!t at his job. If you don't tell a kid of for doing wrong, he's going to continue to do wrong.

Same with footballers, if they play like crap, and you say nothing, they'll continue to do it, why? because they can!
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Wenger, SAF, Capello, Hiddnik, Lippi, Sacchi, Eriksson, and all the greats that I have yet hear them single out one of their players and complain publicly. Mourinho was the only one whom made all his thoughts clear publicly.

All the greats deal with these kind of things personally. And don't turn their clubs into a 'circus'. He is just an arrogant prick who 'thinks' he is the best.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:20 PM)
Carlo has won things with Milan , thats why I like him. Jose won with chelsea , blank cheque chelsea that is. Im not impressed at all.

So now you're calling Milan a circus , just to defend that arrogant pr!ck?? great respect for our team .
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Because Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Rnaldo were all free, right?

Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea. Surely winning the Champions League with Porto is much bigger of an acheivement than winning it with Milan? No?

I'm calling Milan a circus because they're a laugh stock at the moment, I know tonnes of people that're making fun of them.

Doing it to defend Jose? I believe he's a better manager than Carlo, simple as. Why is it that I'm not allowed to have my own opinion? rolleyes.gif

@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.
I_Rossoneri
Jose is the only man to win back to back prem titles, IMO that is some achievement.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 01:23 AM)
fair point, but IMO Milan need someone with balls someone who wil demand certain players and not keep giving excuse after excuse.
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From what I have become accustomed to i understand that, no voice is higher than Silvio's voice.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 10:27 PM)
From what I have become accustomed to i understand that, no voice is higher than Silvio's voice.
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I think that Silvio respects people who can win, after all he didn't mind Don Fabio.

It's galliani who likes the yes men wink.gif
Nova
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 11:19 PM)
Funny because again I wasn't on about his return(when Milan were in a demise wink.gif ) I was referring to when he left and Don Silvio almost begged him to stay.

And as for carlo, he talks the same sh!t as galliani so I don't bother to listen to his comments smile.gif
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He had the best team at his disposal back then. When he returned he failed , while Carlo didn't .

all respect for Capello , but I rate Carlo at least the same as him.


Just accept Jose aint coming to Milan. Im so happy biggrin.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 22 2007, 01:24 AM)
@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.
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Yes he did ... When they spoke up against him wink.gif

Actually he smacked Becks with a football boot .. U know why ?? Cuz SAF made Becks into the player he is today cool.gif

But does SAF come out in public and say well we lost today because I don't have a center back ?! No he played Milan and got royally screwed, both him and his team ... And said 'That was a magnificent Milan' ... I wonder what Jose said the night before rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 22 2007, 01:29 AM)
I think that Silvio respects people who can win, after all he didn't mind Don Fabio.

It's galliani who likes the yes men wink.gif
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Galliani is Silvio's mask wink.gif

Galliani is the yes man.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 21 2007, 10:33 PM)
Yes he did ... When they spoke up against him wink.gif

Actually he smacked Becks with a football boot .. U know why ?? Cuz SAF made Becks into the player he is today cool.gif

But does SAF come out in public and say well we lost today because I don't have a center back ?! No he played Milan and got royally screwed, both him and his team ... And said 'That was a magnificent Milan' ... I wonder what Jose said the night before rolleyes.gif
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Yes, he was gracious in defeat against Milan, and what?

Did you read Jose's post-match comments against Villa? What about Liverpool in January? He admitted his team were outplayed, and after the Liverpool game criticised his teams commintment, and their lack of heart.

SAF does come out and blame it on people, he and Wenger are the two most notorious managers in EPL history to blame referee's, they're worse than me!
Nova
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 21 2007, 11:24 PM)
Because Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Rnaldo were all free, right?

Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea. Surely winning the Champions League with Porto is much bigger of an acheivement than winning it with Milan? No?

I'm calling Milan a circus because they're a laugh stock at the moment, I know tonnes of people that're making fun of them.

Doing it to defend Jose? I believe he's a better manager than Carlo, simple as. Why is it that I'm not allowed to have my own opinion?  rolleyes.gif

@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.
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who says you cant have your oppinion , can I have mine too please ? rolleyes.gif

Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Ronaldo were all in a timespan of like 8/9 years ? Chelsea was bought together in 2/3 years.

Who cares about porto , it could have even been Monaco to win it , oelala , the great didier deschamps rolleyes.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:31 PM)
He had the best team at his disposal back then. When he returned he failed , while Carlo didn't .

all respect for Capello  , but I rate Carlo at least the same as him.
Just accept Jose aint coming to Milan. Im so happy  biggrin.gif
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don't speak too soon otherwise it'll be me with all the biggrin.gif faces wink.gif

As for carlo, his time was up last season lie I said but the only thing that kept his job was the CL win. Hopefully, after yet another pathetic performance by Milan, he will be gone soon smile.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 21 2007, 10:37 PM)
Who cares about porto , it could have even been Monaco to win it , oelala , the great didier deschamps  rolleyes.gif
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Yes..

And it could have been Liverpool to win it last year, the great Rafa Benitez.

I honestly don't get what you're saying. huh.gif
Nova
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 21 2007, 11:29 PM)
I think that Silvio respects people who can win, after all he didn't mind Don Fabio.

It's galliani who likes the yes men wink.gif
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Silvio doesnt seem to fire Carlo wink.gif why is that ?
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