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han2503
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Atalanta - Milan

Serie A - Week 10 - 2006/2007

Sunday 5th of November 2006

Time: 3:00 (Italian time) 2:00 (UK time)
Portman
0-1. Gilardino. cool.gif

But Atalanta at home is not an easy task. Do not underestimate them.
han2503
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 29 2006, 04:28 PM)
0-1. Gilardino.  cool.gif

But Atalanta at home is not an easy task. Do not underestimate them.
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I'd say a brace from Gila and another from a midfielder. Gila will probably start his purple patch of form now that he scored like last season, and when he was at Parma.

But yes Atalanta could be very tricky, I just hope that the team don't enderestimate them, because that's when the problems start. But if the players show the kind of heart they showed against Inter, I'm sure we'll win
Jack Sparrow
I don't think Atalanta are good enough to win. However Milan this season look capable of playing bad enough to lose.

Well we have nothing to lose. In my opinion we need to start with a bang, knock em out before they realize the game is underway. This is a no-brainer for me, the formation that is at least in the first half. 3-4-1-2

Defence: Nesta:o, Paolo king.gif, Simic rolleyes.gif

Mid: Janku(LM), Seedorf(CM),Pirlo(CM), Cafu(RM), Kaka(AMF/CF)

Fwds: Gila(LS),Oli(RS)
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 29 2006, 04:48 PM)
I don't think Atalanta are good enough to win. However Milan this season look capable of playing bad enough to lose.

Well we have nothing to lose. In my opinion we need to start with a bang, knock em out before they realize the game is underway. This is a no-brainer for me, the formation that is at least in the first half. 3-4-1-2

Defence: Nesta:o, Paolo king.gif, Simic rolleyes.gif

Mid: Janku(LM), Seedorf(CM),Pirlo(CM), Cafu(RM), Kaka(AMF/CF)

Fwds: Gila(LS),Oli(RS)
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Are you saying we should play with this formation

----------Nesta--Paolo--Simic----------
--Cafu--Seedorf--Pirlo--Jankulovski--
------------------Kaka-------------------
---------Gilardion-----Oliveira----------

???

First of all I don't think it would ever happen!!

But, I think it could be a good idea, Cafu won't have to come back all the way from defence to supply crosses, which is a good thing because of his age. There would definately be more wing play on our part which is something we are lacking a lot of. But no Rino?? It doesn't look very stable having Pirlo and Seedorf in the middle, I would rest Pirlo and put on Rino
HasanHasanly
I think we have to show that our game with Inter was not the last thing we could do... We have to easily win the Serie B champions....

---Cafu-----Nesta-----------Paolo------Simic--
------------Seedorf--Pirlo--Jankulovski--------
-----------------------Kaka----------------------
------------Gilardino--------Oliveira------------

This sounds good enough for me...
han2503
QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Oct 29 2006, 06:53 PM)
I think we have to show that our game with Inter was not the last thing we could do... We have to easily win the Serie B champions....

---Cafu-----Nesta-----------Paolo------Simic--
------------Seedorf--Pirlo--Jankulovski--------
-----------------------Kaka----------------------
------------Gilardino--------Oliveira------------

This sounds good enough for me...
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Simic doesn't play on the left.

I think my formation would be something like this.

Simis--Nesta--Maldini--Janku
-Brocchi--Seedorf--Gourcuff-
------------Kaka---------------
---------Gila----Oliveira-------

Pirlo needs a long rest, he is seriously looking ashen lately, Rino also. So Brocchi in for Rino with Seedorf slipping into the middle and Gourcuff on the left.

I wish I could actually see Kaka taking a rest one of these days, but fact is, we can't afford to rest him, since we rely on him too much for him not to play.
misha
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2006, 09:09 PM)
Simis--Nesta--Maldini--Janku
-Brocchi--Seedorf--Gourcuff-
------------Kaka---------------
---------Gila----Oliveira-------
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Fine by me. In this game we can even let Favalli play cuz Janku played a lot lately.

My prediction would be 2:0 or 3:0
HasanHasanly
@han2503

Exactly i want him to play on the left, because he has speed and can stop the attack when Pirlo or Janku loose the ball..
dst
Simic--Nesta--Maldini--Janku
-Rino--Seedorf--Gourcuff-
------------Kaka---------------
---------Gila----Oliveira-------

... for me

or

Simic--Nesta--Maldini--Kaladze
-Seedorf--Gourcuff-Janku----
------------Kaka---------------
---------Gila----Oliveira-------

if we still can't score. Other sub could be bringing in Cafu in Simic's place . And ofcourse Borriello rolleyes.gif


Pirlo certainly needs a rest ... Rino can make it !!


Forza Ragazzi !! devil.gif
dst
as for a prediction I'd go for a 2-0 for the Rossoneri ... Hopefully Gila will score again !!
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 29 2006, 07:47 PM)
... Hopefully Gila will score again !!
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I think the open goal net miss was when Gila's bad form peaked. The goal against Inter will go a long way in helping him regain his confidence
Jack Sparrow
Well actually the 3-4-1-2 I stated was before I became convinced that Pirlo needed a rest. But at least Yoann's back. However I do believe Rino needs a rest as bad as Pirlo does.

So yeah maybe I'll put Yoann in instead of Pirlo, like I said in the first half we need to go all out for goals.

Then make a half time sub or even on the hour mark, put on more defensive mids, say Brocchi, I think he is good enough to handle Atalanta.

The reason why we should attack is coz Atalanta are good at home. We can't keep grinding like we've done so far(with outta form players). Go for the jugular in the first 45 minutes. Then choke them for space the second half.

I really can't explain this too much, the way I see it in my head, but if it goes according to plan(my plan)...should be an easy 3-1 victory, I'm allowing for a lazy defence.
Panama Devil
QUESTION:

¿HAS SEEDORF ALWAYS PLAYED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE FIELD?

¿DIDN'T HE PLAYED ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHEN HE WAS AT REAL MADRID AND INTER?
ACM-pippo
What's the situation with Nesta????????///
misha
QUOTE (Panama Devil @ Nov 3 2006, 08:28 AM)
QUESTION:

¿HAS SEEDORF ALWAYS PLAYED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE FIELD?

¿DIDN'T HE PLAYED ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHEN HE WAS AT REAL MADRID AND INTER?
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Yes he played on the right before but he can play in all positions in the midfield.
misha
Atalanta - Milan

Milan’s Scudetto dream may already be over, but the Rossoneri will look to bounce back from their derby defeat to Inter as they travel to the Stadio Atleti Azzurri d’Italia to face an overachieving Atalanta side in another local derby.

After an unexpectedly fast start, Atalanta are in danger of being brought down to earth. However, while a dubious penalty cost Stefano Colantuono’s men dear last weekend as they fell 3-1 in Parma, the Nerazzurri are still sitting in sixth and will be buoyed by their start.

The Bergamo side haven’t looked overawed in Serie A yet but will need to show a lot of self-belief if they are to get any success against a powerful – albeit stuttering – Milan side. Colantuono will undoubtedly have made it clear that there can be no repeat of the lamentable defending on show against Parma and will hope for an improvement from his backline who have already shipped eight goals in the last three games.

Milan are a side in crisis after losing two consecutive home games for the first time since 1997-98. More importantly, a devastating 4-3 derby defeat last weekend has left the Rossoneri 14 points behind Inter and has virtually extinguished any hope of an unlikely Scudetto triumph, despite the claims of Clarence Seedorf and Ricardo Oliveira.

The pressure is mounting on Carlo Ancelotti. While the Champions League may be the priority, this is a derby that the Milan boss cannot afford to lose. These may be bleak days, but the Diavoli played superbly at times against Inter and will surely start picking up points if they can replicate that in the coming weeks.

Colantuono has few striking options as Riccardo Zampagna’s left knee injury has ruled him out. Nicola Ventola and Andrea Soncin are set to start up front. Simone Loria is suspended after a disciplinary panel decision leaving Argentine defender Leonardo Talamonti likely to get the nod as Moris Carrozzieri is still suspended for his involvement in a betting plot. Luis Centi, Kewullay Conteh, Marino Defendi and ex-Milan man Christian Vieri are all still sidelined.

Milan cannot call upon Serginho who is out for three weeks or Massimo Ambrosini who is once again struggling with a muscle strain. Giuseppe Favalli’s return is imminent, but he may just miss out. French youngster Yoann Gourcuff is available after recovering from a cracked rib but Daniele Bonera is a doubt. Alberto Gilardino may keep his place up front after finally finding the net against Inter with ex-Atalanta hero Pippo Inzaghi warming the bench.

Man on fire: Cristiano Doni (Atalanta) – Colantuono may only have two strikers left for the clash against Milan, but who cares when you have a midfielder like Cristiano Doni? The ex-Brescia man has five goals in four games and is bubbling with confidence.

Last season: Not played

Form guide: Atalanta (D W W D L) Milan (D D L W L)

Atalanta (probable): Calderoni; Adriano, Rivalta, Talamonti, Bellini; Ferreira Pinto, Bernandini, Migliaccio, Ariatti, Doni; Ventola

Milan (probable): Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Kaka; Gilardino

Football Italia
han2503
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 3 2006, 08:23 AM)
Milan (probable): Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Kaka; Gilardino
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So according to this we'll be playing a 4-4-1-1. But I don't think it's right. Ambro has an injury, and I think he is out for another week or so. But we'll be basically playing with the italy WC formation, with the midfield filled with central midfielders, because we didn't have any wingers.

If this formation is right then I would go for:

Simic--Nesta--Maldini--Janku (Isn't kaladze injured btw?)
Gourcuff--Pirlo--Rino--Seedorf
----------------Kaka-------------
-------Gila-----------------------

But I wopuld prefer a 4-3-1-2 with still maybe being able to rest a couple of players

Simic--Nesta--Maldini--Janku
---Gourcuff--Rino--Seedorf--
---------------Kaka------------
---------Gila----Oliveira-------
KillerMax
WTF? The Xmas tree again? How many times do we have to learn a damn lesson? And to play Ambrosini again when he is clearly not fit? I hope Football Italia is just full of $hit because the line up would piss me off badly... Oli and Gila should play upfront no questions asked!!! mad.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 3 2006, 02:39 AM)
still maybe being able to rest a couple of players

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If someone needs a rest, then it's definitely Kaka!!
dst
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 3 2006, 10:23 AM)
Milan (probable): Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Kaka; Gilardino
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Nesta+Kaladze+Ambrosini ?? Somebody has to tell FI they forgot to put Serginho in !! rolleyes.gif
han2503
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 3 2006, 08:42 AM)
If someone needs a rest, then it's definitely Kaka!!
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I know, but until every player has reached top form again (pirlo, Rino, nesta, pippo) we are too reliant on him, I personally think that Seedorf can fill his position with Gourcuff coming in Seddorf's place place, but only against the small teams, maybe even against AEK but that is a bit far away. Atalanta right now are having a good spell and I have no doubt that they will be defending with all they got and cloing down in the penalty box, so kaka will be needed to split there defence up with his passes and runs, same for Oli, when he makes hios runs out wide he drags markers with him, so that Gila won't be double teamed, and neither will Kaka

QUOTE (dst @ Nov 3 2006, 08:44 AM)
Nesta+Kaladze+Ambrosini ?? Somebody has to tell FI they forgot to put Serginho in !!  rolleyes.gif
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laugh.gif I was thinking about that, but I though maybe Nesta had recovered becuase his shoulder injury didn't look that serious
X-Offender
Guys, Football Italia's line up is pure b/s. Nesta could be out for a couple of weeks, while there are doubts on Kaladze he might not be back until bloody 2007. And Ambro is having a serious muscle problem. So, my line up for sunday's match would be:

Dida; Cafu, Simic, Maldini, Favalli; Pirlo, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà; Oliveira, Inzaghi.
dst
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 3 2006, 05:05 PM)
Dida; Cafu, Simic, Maldini, Favalli; Pirlo, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà; Oliveira, Inzaghi.
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why not Janku ar LB ?? unsure.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 3 2006, 04:21 PM)
why not Janku ar LB ??  unsure.gif
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I think he needs a rest, but you're probably right. We need to win this one so better put the best players we've got.
dst
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 3 2006, 05:24 PM)
I think he needs a rest, but you're probably right. We need to win this one so better put the best players we've got.
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Well he played at the WC but he rarely featured all season through last year !!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 3 2006, 06:05 PM)
Guys, Football Italia's line up is pure b/s. Nesta could be out for a couple of weeks, while there are doubts on Kaladze he might not be back until bloody 2007. And Ambro is having a serious muscle problem. So, my line up for sunday's match would be:

Dida; Cafu, Simic, Maldini, Favalli; Pirlo, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà; Oliveira, Inzaghi.
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Wha ?!

Nesta is out .. Kaladze is out .. Sergio is (was) out .. Ambro is out .. ALL with injuries .. GOD help us sad.gif

That line-up would be ideal, except, isn't Favalli injured ?! And why start Pippo ahead of Gila ?

ps .. I have my fingers crossed that Kakà wouldn't get injured
ACM-pippo
What is the situation with Nesta and Kala ????????????????
dst
QUOTE (ACM-pippo @ Nov 3 2006, 09:27 PM)
What is the situation with Nesta and Kala ????????????????
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there's not been any update on this issue mate ... for anyone that cares Favalli is back on training !! rolleyes.gif
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 3 2006, 07:52 PM)
there's not been any update on this issue mate ... for anyone that cares Favalli is back on training !!  rolleyes.gif
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oo exciting, I hope he plays wink.gif
ACM-pippo
Probably he wil start as LB, while Kala will be in the center with Simic, maybe.
X-Offender
QUOTE (ACM-pippo @ Nov 3 2006, 11:35 PM)
Probably he wil start as LB, while Kala will be in the center with Simic, maybe.
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Don't you read previous posts before posting. It can turn... silly. rolleyes.gif
arivanjj
my prediction would be 3 - 1. our defence doesn't look too promising so we might let in 1 or 2 goals, but not to worry we got kaka and gila hungry in fowards and hopefuly Oli gets back on the score sheet. smile.gif
Rossoneri7
Atalanta arn't a complicated team .. I think this will be a laid back win; a lot rests on the players confidence, but overall .. Milan will bring back the 3 points
javierk128
i hope so, this season milan must come back, as 03/04 and 04/05 seasons tongue.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (javierk128 @ Nov 4 2006, 05:15 AM)
i hope so, this season milan must come back, as 03/04 and 04/05 seasons tongue.gif
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Milan will come back, apart from the Livorno game ... the team has played splended football king.gif This will surely pay off devil.gif
ACM-pippo
My predictions is 2-0, goals by Gila and Pippo. wink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (javierk128 @ Nov 4 2006, 02:15 AM)
i hope so, this season milan must come back, as 03/04 and 04/05 seasons tongue.gif
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And don't forget the 05/06 season, we where 14 pts behind Juve then also

QUOTE (ACM-pippo @ Nov 4 2006, 07:51 AM)
My predictions is 2-0, goals by Gila and Pippo.  wink.gif
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I hope those 2 won't play together but if you're referring to them both getting the goals once one subs the other, then I'm all for it
ACM-pippo
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2006, 10:28 AM)
I hope those 2 won't play together but if you're referring to them both getting the goals once one subs the other, then I'm all for it
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I guess that Pippo will start the match with Boriello unsure.gif unsure.gif
Jack Sparrow
To be honest I'd like to see Pippo given a run out with Oli. But with Gila just started scoring, I don't think I'll be doing that, we'll wait till Gila hits his stride completely.
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2006, 09:28 AM)
And don't forget the 05/06 season, we where 14 pts behind Juve then also
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Yep, at the 22nd week we were 14 points behind Juve, but at the 35th week we were only 3 points behind them. smile.gif
misha
squad for the game:

Dida, Fiori, Kalac; Bonera, Cafu, Costacurta, Favalli, Maldini, Jankulovski, Simic; Brocchi, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà; Pirlo, Seedorf; Borriello, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Ricardo Oliveira.
misha
I would go in this game for our strongest line up. We can let some players a rest in a coppa game.

Dida; Cafu, Simic, Maldini, Janku; Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kakà; Oliveira, Gilardino.
KillerMax
QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 4 2006, 03:08 PM)
I would go in this game for our strongest line up.  We can let some players a rest in a coppa game.

Dida; Cafu, Simic, Maldini, Janku; Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kakà; Oliveira, Gilardino.
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I'd play Gourcuff and Seedorf and start Kaka on the bench. A bit risky I know, but Kaka abasolutely needs a rest. Plus, I firmly believe in Gourcuff's abilities.
misha
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 4 2006, 11:42 PM)
I'd play Gourcuff and Seedorf and start Kaka on the bench. A bit risky I know, but Kaka abasolutely needs a rest. Plus, I firmly believe in Gourcuff's abilities.
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I want to see him too ,but I don't know if it's good idea to let him play two games in a four days after an injury.
han2503
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 4 2006, 09:42 PM)
I'd play Gourcuff and Seedorf and start Kaka on the bench. A bit risky I know, but Kaka abasolutely needs a rest. Plus, I firmly believe in Gourcuff's abilities.
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I would like to see him take a rest to, and this could be his opportunity to have a good rest since there is only the Coppa game in the mid-week. Plus Kaka is a player that makes an instant impact when he comes on, so if we are in seed of that extra spark which he brings in then he could always come on

QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 4 2006, 09:47 PM)
I want to see him too ,but I don't know if it's good idea to let him play two games in a four days after an injury.
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I think he can handle it, he didn't play a brilliant game against Anderlecth by any means but he is still influential, plus he is not Ambro, he's not made of glass, and is fragile enough to get injured again by a little knock.

I think we should play Seedorf in Kaka's position with Gourcuff on the left, it should be enough for the Atalanta match
KillerMax
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2006, 04:01 PM)
I think we should play Seedorf in Kaka's position with Gourcuff on the left, it should be enough for the Atalanta match
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That's what I had in mind!
Portman
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ATALANTA-MILAN: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
05/11/2006

Atalanta (4-4-1-1): Calderoni; Bellini, Rivalta, Talamonti, Ariatti; Ferreira Pinto, Bernardini, Migliaccio, Donati; Doni; Ventola.

Milan (4-3-1-2): Dida; Bonera, Simic, Maldini, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Gourcuff; Kakà, Gilardino, Inzaghi.


Very good. Gila-Pippo. rolleyes.gif Bonera should be in the center and Simic on the right, but let's see how this works. rolleyes.gif
agenth
i don't like gila-pippo
and i don't like bonera...
but let's see
X-Offender
I like it. FORZA MILAN!
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