RC (so we are 10-on-10) and penalty. Pazzo makes it 2-0.

El-Sha! 3-0

Did Paletta cut his hair or am I seeing things?

Mastalli in. A couple of nice touches.

Great save by Abbiati

Yes, finally got rid of the ridiculous fly-aways

Final, 3-0. Brace by El-Sha and penalty by Pazzo.

Looked to me like we played better than most games this year, kept going even after we went down to 10.

Worthless game, means jackshit how we played.

Was not a worthless game for Torino (they needed a win to have a chance at EL). But I agree it does not make up for a pathetic season.

Glad to see El Sharaawy being sharp in front of goal though.

It's time we face the sad reality that the coach we bitched so much about has won the double and is a CL finalist.

I've come to accept Pippo is not the problem. Leo and Seedorf weren't either.

No-one said Pippo is the problem, but he is part of the problem, and wanting him to stay instead of a qualified and experienced coach is madness.

Yes, he has done an excellent job at Juve (improving on a great team he inherited from Conte). He also won us the scudetto his first year, and managed to get us to a CL spot the 3rd year despite losing most of his team and starting out horribly. However, he did have a solid team at Juve, he really should have won Serie A his second year with us, and could not handle our team after he lost his star players (especially his last year, which was a complete disaster).

Should add that Allegri did much better than I expected, and in doing so he exposed a couple of limitations with Conte. You have to credit Conte with taking a team that was (almost) as bad as Milan is today and winning Serie A his first season (when Milan was still strong and arguably should have won). However, he never really believed he could go far in CL (or even EL), and hence never really tried (to the point of not rotating players ahead of important matches, even when he had a comfortable lead in Serie A). Also, he always played one formation (not an issue in Serie A, given Juve's domination of the league, but it hurt his chances in European competitions). Allegri, OTOH, went into CL believing (after all, he did manage to win some key matches with a rather unimpressive Milan team), and got Juve to play comfortably with multiple formations (so he could adapt better to his opponents).


I will grant you that we have other problems. However, Pippo *is* a problem as well. We really need someone better, or next year will be even worse than this year.


Personally, I though Seedorf did reasonably well. He almost got us back to an EL spot, despite inheriting a team with horrible morale problems and no idea how to play, and despite losing support from Milan management half way through his tenure. However, I would not consider him the ideal coach for us (we really need someone with experience).

Love Leo, and he brought a certain flair to the team (even managed to get Dinho to perform decently), but IMHO he was clueless tactically (and was smart enough to realize it after his year at Inter).

I do think Allegri had to go (if only because things had gotten to be too tense), but I think sacking Seedorf for Inzaghi was stupid. And if we're going to sack Pippo to get Maldini or Gullit or Rino as coach, then we'll be in the same situation.

If we can get Carlo, or Hiddink, or someone proven, sure, I guess. If we can't, keep Pippo.

I think we should either extend Van Ginkel's loan or buy him outright. He's a good player.

I don't think we'll be going for another rookie

At this point Pippo simply has to go, the worst season for Milan in over 2 decades if not more. I think there are 2 levels of coaches we can get. The Prandelli, Montella, Spaletti level of a coach, which is already a huge improvement over Pippo or someone like Carlo who is one of the best coaches around right now.

Either way, Pippo simply has to go.

Also, there were problems with all the coaches you mentioned, Leo and Seedorf were rookies wit zero experience when they took over. And Allegri... What can one say? He's doing great with Juve, even I have to admit that and hold out my hat to him, but just because he's been great for one team does not mean that he was great for us. If Pippo hadn't upped the stakes this season, Allegri would have gone down as one of the worst Milan coaches in quite some time, not to mention treating us to some seriously terrible football along the way, that again, thanks to Pippo upping the stakes it can no longer be called the worst I've seen in a while


I don't think he'll want to stay tbh, he was already reluctant to come in last summer, then had to sit on the bench for months while Muntari and Essien started ahead of him, something he could have easily done at Chelsea without having to uproot his life. He's only been a regular in these last few months after it became clear that Essien was finished and Muntari mutinied

It depends on whether Mourinho will give him a chance next season or not. If he deems him not ready yet, then we can extend his loan for another season, if we offer him a starting spot.

Indeed. And I don't see much space for MvG in Chelsea to be quite honest. At least not serious playing time.

Looks like we are not getting Ancellotti. (English version.)

Of the others you mentioned, I would rather not have Prando, I would like Montella but is probably staying with Fiorentina (despite what is being said), and I would be ok with Spalletti. However, my preference would be Emery (though I doubt we will get him).


No disagreement here.


As pointed out by Fillipo, I do not see MvG finding any space at Chelsea (look at their roster). OTOH, if we really are spending money this year, I would like to hope we will strengthen our midfield. If that happens, would we still want MvG?

I personally think he's a good player, and has also done well since being given a more stable role in the team, that pass to SES yesterday was beautiful and shows that he does have skill. For me he's Bonaventura level

Agreed on the coaches, if we're not getting Carlo, Montella would be my second choice, Spalletti 3rd

Montella? I'm really not sure. They way he handled Fiorentina this season is questionable. Some very bad calls.

I think he's the most talented out of the 3 of Montella, Prandelli and Spalletti. Plus I think Fiorentina were good this season, nothing spectacular but they don't really have a stacked team, especially since they went far in the EL

Finally, this nightmare of a season ends tonight. Hoping for a summer of serious change

Finally indeed.

Speak for yourself, Kimosabe. I quite enjoyed this season!






























Nah, who am I kidding! Get over, already, this nightmare!

So, nothing much happening, then. Here or in the match. Hope for one final hustle from these players, many of which are wearing the club shirt for the last time, surely. Atalanta have been even more woeful than us this season, and anything less than a win here will be disappointing.

Then again, you never know with this team.

De Sciglio. What a letdown this season, for the kid! Again with a mistake in this match.

Baselli with a nice header for Atalanta. De Sciglio beaten easily at the back post.

1-0 Atalanta, Baselli. Had it coming!

Pazzini draws a penalty. Probably a 50-50 call. Pazzini buries it 1-1

Jack scores after Pazzini puts a shot off the post. 2-1

Where have you been, Acid?

Atalanta showing why they're 17th, with their horrible defending. Love it, love it.

Ah, traveling, man, in and out. Far too much away from the keyboard, and on the road, but just couldn't afford to miss this last match of the season with my friends here. Also had too much on plate these last few years (business mostly), but planning to offload most of my duties by the end of this year, and get back to life.

So yeah, I'm never going away, just had a crazy few months. Thanks for the welcome, though. Will check out on the old threads, and also have bunch of PMs I have to reply to, but will get to them after the match. Can't miss the first and final action of the season, no matter how many matches I miss out on within any given season.

Oh, by the way, hope all of you did well while I was away. A quick scan of the thread activity shows few members posting here, but as long as we're all fine, doing well and chip in every now and then, right?

Good to have you back. Thought you got bored and left like many others.

Nah, bored of my brothers? Impossible! Real life just caught up, but I'll be the last man out of here, you know me. Really missed the discussions here and the inside news (which one can't get from mainstream websites). Again, thanks for the welcome, and I'll be here from now on.

Fingers crossed our fortunes change and we get some more action this next season in terms of activity here. And who knows, maybe with a good signing campaign and some splash of cash, it could be closer to the good old days!

1-2 HT, then. Like what I've seen from El Shaarawy in this first half, got to admit.

Our defense playing much better this time around. Save for the occasional De Sciglio errors.

Pazzini is very active and shifty but his touch is often just off. Baselli just had a great run. Looks like decent young player.

Poli on for El Shaarawy. I would rather see a kid come in.

Jack with a second goal. Doesn't celebrate again out of respect. Solid player. One of the few that has shown any heart this year.

Yeah, good cross from Poli too.

Well you have your wish. Davide Calabria on for De Sciglio, debut for the kid.

Now Di Molfetta on for Bonnaventura. Glad to see the kids finally get a run out.

Nice cross by Calabria.

So selfish by Honda. Should have passed to Di Molfetta.

I see we finished the season with a win.

I see we finished the season at all. Inzaghi wanted it to never end. Be interesting what kind of moves Milan make in the summer, we could potentially be in for a ride of our lives. If the management seeks change in fortunes, there is certain to be an influx of new players in the next couple of months.

On paper, the Milan transfer market could be the most interesting in the world this season. On potential.

Thankfully its all over.

Roll on next season a new , i hope.