LOOOL

He takes of VB...




And leaves Ambro on...


Oh my word

Two away goals conceded! It's not Allegri, it's the injuries! Nice clearance Ambro!

Are you being sarcastic or?...

vnata is the Yin to my Yang

I still want to cry when I remember that we let Pirlo go for free to these f£$%$£^ zebras!!

A lot of people are Yins to you, bub. I'm the Yin to your spelling Yang, for instance!

I think the biggest problem is the way we play. Why can we not play direct? Quick pass up and a run. We pass around the ball and lose it.

1: Pirlo was in miserable form for us us in the past 3 years. He could have stayed with us and remained in dire form. He needed a fresh start.

u aren't.....jealous now are you acid? haha

I think the biggest problem is the way we play. Why can we not play direct? Quick pass up and a run. We pass around the ball and lose it.

El Shaarawy is a light source per sempre.

We have 13 injuries now, which must be taken into consideration almost with T. Silva added to that.

I don't think Ibra is essentially the problem here. Ibra has enough intelligence to play in flow with the team. The issue is the mediocrity around him.

Is it Ibra's fault that he is found in a lineups where he is the only one creating. He makes a pass and Robinho misses. Pato is injured or out of touch so he disappears. Nocerino is the only one competent.

And Allegri has miraculously decided that the solution to his troubles is to have the fullbacks push up. Sure they offer the versatility of width which we exploit against average sides...but the top sides just shut us down.

And as for me, I still believe Allegri is out of his league. The top coaches have as good teams, better tactics and better experience. I'm embarassed that the scudetto winning coach is getting his butt handed out to him by a 'n00b' like Conte.

I'm embarassed that the scudetto winning coach is getting his butt handed out to him by a 'n00b' like Conte.

1: Pirlo was in miserable form for us us in the past 3 years. He could have stayed with us and remained in dire form. He needed a fresh start.

2: It's approaching that time of the season where you agreed that if Juve were still in the hunt for the Scudetto, you'd concede they were contenders. Ready to accept it now?

How should he react, though? what is it he should be doing that he's not? we have a first team out injured, his hands are tied. the fact that Ambro gets to play in these games says it all really...

Sure I'll conceed, but they are where they are simply because we have been TERRIBLE this season against any of the decent sides. And that is a FACT!

Juve have lost a lot of points against the smaller sides this season, and the reason they're sill top of the table is because we simply cannot cope anymore, with these injuries as well as a terrible game plan. I never feared them as title contenders because I had faith in our team before. Maybe you can call that over-confidence, but why shouldn't we all feel that way? We have the best team in the league by a mile imo. Yet we've been reduced to this.

I don't think we'd be any different now if we had Pirlo.

How should he react, though? what is it he should be doing that he's not? we have a first team out injured, his hands are tied. the fact that Ambro gets to play in these games says it all really...

Absolutely knew this would be your response.

Just as last year some took the credit from us for winning the league away 'because the rest of the league was rubbish', now we're saying we're the rubbish ones and Juve are being gifted the title.

I wonder, when was the last time Serie A had a 'worthy winner'...

This left me speechless. Don't you understand that we have a creative problem? Don't you get that Pirlo, even an off-form Pirlo is miles away from players who do the creating job for us, especially Emanuleson and Boateng? No, I refuse to agree that Pirlo hasn't been good for the past three years: last year he had serious injuries and Allegri clearly didn't provide any motivation to sign a new deal and get mentally stronger. Isn't it hard to watch him bring the opposition from spot 8 to spot 1? Don't you regret it when you see him play that good with Juventus? I sure do.

I've said it a million times: more preparation, more tactical thinking. Allegri mostly just pushes a player to a fixed spot and then expects for example Emanuelson to do a Boateng. Ancelotti was the master of preparation; in many ways he was wrong or too stubborn, but he knew how to think, how to set a trap and tactical maneuver. Allegri...no. With him it's almost the same, Ambrosini or Nocerino, Boateng or Emanuelson, the initial idea remains while things look different only because of the individual differences. He has zero ability to surprise a oppositions coach. Like Acid said, the read him like a book - from the small things like the fetish with making (too) late subs to bigger tactical things.

This left me speechless. Don't you understand that we have a creative problem? Don't you get that Pirlo, even an off-form Pirlo is miles away from players who do the creating job for us, especially Emanuleson and Boateng? No, I refuse to agree that Pirlo hasn't been good for the past three years: last year he had serious injuries and Allegri clearly didn't provide any motivation to sign a new deal and get mentally stronger. Isn't it hard to watch him bring the opposition from spot 8 to spot 1? Don't you regret it when you see him play that good with Juventus? I sure do.

We've won a big fat zero when it comes to games against the top sides.

Absolutely knew this would be your response.

Just as last year some took the credit from us for winning the league away 'because the rest of the league was rubbish', now we're saying we're the rubbish ones and Juve are being gifted the title.

I wonder, when was the last time Serie A had a 'worthy winner'...

Didn't read my last post, did you? I blamed the management for their failure to bring a new AM/creative force to replace Pirlo, so yes, I do understand we have a creative problem. nice try patronizing me, though.

Roma.

Unfortunately some on here are far too concerned with bashing Max to actually be bothered about the lack of logic in their arguement.

I just wish we changed the entire we we set up and played altogether. I think of any big clubs, we're by far the easiest to play against. Of course our superior quality is usually enough to over-match some club, but the better clubs will generally be able to beat us.

There's a reason most top clubs play with wide players and are very attacking. It stretches the opposition and creates space in the middle, particularly for creative players. I don't see us ever really switching from 4-3-1-2 and it'll hurt us.

MILAN - “The team needs to feel the fans’ support. This can’t become a time for arguments and criticism.” Words from Barabara Berlusconi the day after Milan’s loss to Juventus in the first leg of the Italian Cup semi final. “We’re going through a crucial phase of the season. The next few weeks will be decisive without a doubt. We’re on course to achieve all the objectives that we fixed at the start of the season. Positive news is not lacking. El Shaaraway is showing what a great prospect he is for our football and some of our players have shown good form. In general however, we’re not going through an easy period. Many players are out and playing every three days it’s difficult to get them back. That’s why we need support and trust from everyone. “

Hah, nice try to bring it to a personal level

I can't understand it though; isn't it obvious that Allegri pressures the strategy with two DM's or box-to-box midfielders and a creative one + two support strikers alla Robinho or Tevez? Isn't it clear that Allegri does not prioritize signing a AM, but rather imagines a strong working DM and a bonus working striker? I mean, he failed with all creative players but Seedorf, isn't that enough to realize that maybe our management isn't just stupid but also guided by the ideas how Milan's setup looks?

Really???

That's your answer? Roma?

Naah, it's pointless to discuss it anymore. We're being labeled as haters or bashers, while Milan sinks downward because of injuries, the managements incompetence and the sudden quality of some teams.

You say we've lost to EVERY big team out there including Lazio (I mean.. LMAO), so yeah, that's my answer we beat Roma at the Olimpico after god knows how many years, if Lazio are big more so are Roma and it's a fact you should remember when you attempt to repeat what you've already said about a hundred times.

They made quite a big deal out of that.

Um... exactly what are you getting at? (if you're interested in continuing this discussion)

You say we've lost to EVERY big team out there including Lazio (I mean.. LMAO), so yeah, that's my answer wink.gif we beat Roma at the Olimpico after god knows how many years, if Lazio are big more so are Roma and it's a fact you should remember when you attempt to repeat what you've already said about a hundred times.

Milan sinks downward? gee, when did you become such a drama queen?

Conte exposes Milan deficiencies

It doesn’t seem to matter what Juventus players Antonio Conte selects or what formation he plays them in. He could close his eyes and play eeny meeny miny mo in the dressing room, or dress up in a shiny jacket and pull his players names out a bowl at random. Maybe that’s what he did in Milan last night.

Conte appeared to tempt fate with his selection for the Coppa Italia semi-final first leg, showing scant regard for his team’s unbeaten record this season, as if it was a distraction he’d rather be rid of. He dropped eight of the players that faced Siena on Sunday, gave new signings Martin Caceres and Simone Padoin their debuts, played Alessandro Del Piero and Marco Borriello – a strikeforce with a grand total of one goal between them this season – up front, and deployed this motley crew in a 3-5-2 formation that the Bianconeri had experimented with on only a handful of prior occasions this term. Even the strip they wore was third choice.

Yet when the final whistle rung out at San Siro, Juve had extended their unbeaten run to 24 matches in all competitions, taken a big step towards the Coppa Final and landed a sizeable psychological blow on Scudetto rivals Milan – just two weeks before their all-important rendezvous at the same venue on League business.

“Tonight Juventus proved once more that we are a team,” Conte remarked of the 2-1 victory. “I put on to the pitch players that wanted to prove they are part of this project, and their response was extraordinary. I liked their attitude a lot, their enthusiasm, their organisation.”

His counterpart Massimiliano Allegri insisted “this defeat won’t influence the rest of the season,” but that remains to be seen. Nothing is decided yet, neither the Coppa semi-final or the Scudetto race, but three conclusions were immediately apparent last night.

One, Juventus made the wiser moves in the January window. Caceres scored twice on an extraordinary second debut and fellow January arrivals Padoin and Borriello both produced earnest, diligent displays. Of Milan’s buys, youngsters Alexander Merkel and Rodney Strasser are injured, Sulley Muntari is yet to return from the African Nations Cup, Djamel Mesbah was left out and for the second match running Allegri waited until the 86th minute to summon Maxi Lopez from the bench, suggesting he has just as little faith in the Argentine striker as Catania boss Vincenzo Montella did.

Two, Juventus have greater strength in depth. True, Milan are in the midst of another horrendous injury crisis, but Conte’s selection levelled the playing field and La Vecchia Signora still won out. Caceres is essentially their second choice right-back, can you imagine the Diavolo’s second choice right-back Daniele Bonera scoring that spectacular winner?

Three, Juventus are more tactically flexible. Their standard 4-3-3 shelved, the Bianconeri looked just as dangerous going forward and just as solid at the back in the 3-5-2. Serie A top scorer Zlatan Ibrahimovic had less chance of finding a way past Giorgio Chiellini than Iain Dowie did of pronouncing either players’ name correctly. In contrast Allegri seems stuck in his 4-3-1-2 tactical straightjacket, unable or unwilling to change regardless of the opposition or circumstances.

Writing off the Rossoneri at this stage would be madness. The title-holders suffered similar difficulties with injuries, suspensions and faltering form this time last year and at the beginning of this season, and recovered on both occasions. However, they need their injured players, Kevin Prince Boateng and Alberto Aquilani in particular, back in action and they need some sort of tactical alternative. Because as long as Conte can afford to treat his team selections like a game of bingo, there’s only going to be one winner.