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han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2011, 05:31 PM) *
I'm never overly happy when Zambrotta starts. And he was beaten too easily there.

He's been out for a while, he's usually impeccable defensively imo

VB yellow. He better watch it
Fillipo Simone
The spirit of Ambrosini seems to have possessed Bommel. If he maintains with his fouling, he'll see red soon.
drucurl
Robinho's fittness is coming back GREAT pace cool.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2011, 05:35 PM) *
The spirit of Ambrosini seems to have possessed Bommel. If he maintains with his fouling, he'll see red soon.

He usually settles down after he gets the first yellow. Practically happens every game
han2503
We need to kill them off, we're just not stable defensively atm
Fillipo Simone
Bommel has been awful. Ruined a few attacks while made the defensive section unstable and static. Thing is, Ambrosini at this point wouldn't do any better.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2011, 05:50 PM) *
Bommel has been awful. Ruined a few attacks while made the defensive section unstable and static. Thing is, Ambrosini at this point wouldn't do any better.

VB hasn't been his usual self all season imo. Having said that, he's still miles ahead of Ambro even on his worst of days.

He usually settles down with the lunging fouls after he get a yellow, and that's nothing new though. I'm expecting a better second half from him
Zed.D
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2011, 08:52 PM) *
Great assist by Aquilani. Milan again lead out of nothing.

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"cross-header goal". it's one of the most common ways of scoring goals in football for god's sake!

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Good game overall save for a few slips on our side. and Binho is not involved in the action enough. Zlatan clearly doesn't have his dribbling boots on, he should quit trying and concentrate on scoring more goals.
acid911
Call it what you want, but really Silva, MvB, Robinho and Ibra haven't been the players they were last year. Perhaps even add Nesta to the list, depending on who's compiling it. sleep.gif There has to be some reasoning behind it. Other players, and in particular new signings are the ones that are running the show up till now.
Zed.D
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 29 2011, 09:29 PM) *
Call it what you want, but really Silva, MvB, Robinho and Ibra haven't been the players they were last year. Perhaps even add Nesta to the list, depending on who's compiling it. sleep.gif There has to be some reasoning behind it. Other players, and in particular new signings are the ones that are running the show up till now.

Silva isn't the player he was last season but he's still great. last season he was phenomenal. so I'm not worried about him. but I AM worried about Zlatan losing motivation/enthusiasm little by little. not talking about tonight...
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 29 2011, 06:57 PM) *
?!?!?!?!?

"cross-header goal". it's one of the most common ways of scoring goals in football for god's sake!

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Good game overall save for a few slips on our side. and Binho is not involved in the action enough. Zlatan clearly doesn't have his dribbling boots on, he should quit trying and concentrate on scoring more goals.

As usual, you got me wrong. The sole attack was very good, but we're not playing in the right speed and with the right rhythm.
Fillipo Simone
Robinho has to stop diving at once. I can't watch it any more.
han2503
We're inviting them onto us. This can't end well for us if we keep playing this way
han2503
Why is he bringing on Urby FFS???
han2503
Urby for Boateng, terrible change
han2503
Boateng sent off for some reason
han2503
OMG!! Miracle from Abbiati!!

WTF are they doing though
han2503
IBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Zed.D
@ Fillipo

Sorry, I thought there was a slightly negative tone in your post.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2011, 08:55 PM) *
Urby for Boateng, terrible change

He was injured. you wanted Ambrosini?
Danny
4 headers! Astonishing. Cracking away win this looks like.

All we need now is for Inter to beat Juve and that would be a very good night's work.
han2503
Aqui qith another assist

Probably top assist man in the league now along with Antonio
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2011, 09:25 PM) *
Urby for Boateng, terrible change

Because Boateng couldn't continue, he was limping. Good change, Urby is good so far.

Another Aqu to Ibra goal king.gif Finally a short corner paid off biggrin.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 29 2011, 05:39 PM) *
@ Fillipo

Sorry, I thought there was a slightly negative tone in your post.


He was injured. you wanted Ambrosini?

Bring Cassano on, Ubry is worrying me these days. Although he's proved me wrong so far and is very solid
Zed.D
Apparently we haven't won there since 2004/05 or so... been a long while.
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2011, 09:42 PM) *
Bring Cassano on, Ubry is worrying me these days. Although he's proved me wrong so far and is very solid

3 striker while you under pressure is not needed. Plus, Robi needed a sub as well, wasn't playing well.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 29 2011, 05:44 PM) *
3 striker while you under pressure is not needed. Plus, Robi needed a sub as well, wasn't playing well.

Robinho would have dropped into midfield, he has a better workrate then Urby if we want to get into the technicality of it...

Nocerino what a super miss just now. Well after that hat trick from him... biggrin.gif
han2503
Bohan goal rolleyes.gif

Where's the defence again??
han2503
Nesta with the silly defending now. He totally switched off
han2503
That's 14 goals now that we've conceeded sleep.gif
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2011, 09:46 PM) *
Robinho would have dropped into midfield, he has a better workrate then Urby if we want to get into the technicality of it...

But Robinho wasn't playing well. I would rather to bring a fresh player in.

The goal is Nesta's mistake.
drucurl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2011, 01:48 PM) *
Nesta with the silly defending now. He totally switched off

We all switched off....terrible lack of concentration by Nocerino
han2503
Allegri sent off. rolleyes.gif

Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2011, 09:18 PM) *
That's 14 goals now that we've conceeded sleep.gif

We conceded only, what, 8 goals last season? huh.gif what's happened?
han2503
Few. FT

What a mess up there at the end. Abbiati has got to get his head together! What a fumble there again! He's having one in every game this season.

The defending simply has to get better, we're simply not going to do anything if we keep conceeding goals at this rate.
han2503
QUOTE (drucurl @ Oct 29 2011, 05:49 PM) *
We all switched off....terrible lack of concentration by Nocerino

For the chance? Yeah it was a terrible miss. But Nesta trying a half heartedtackle as if feeling he doesn't need to do his all since we're leading by 2. This is the attitude that has to be removed at once. Thiago and Nesta were impeccable all game imo, Nesta ruined a perfect performance only due to a lapse in concentration, something that I personally don't tolerate, not from him.
Danny
Say what you guys like but we're still winning!

Add to that Napoli losing/lost to Catania and this seems a very good night indeed.

Now, I rarely support Inter, but that would be another great result for us.
Zed.D
To his credit, Abbiati saved two one-on-ones.
Jack Bauer
Very important win, not easy to beat them away. Top of the table right now king.gif

Our defense is the issue we gotta fixed up. We are scoring enough, but very instable defensively.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 29 2011, 07:49 PM) *
But Robinho wasn't playing well. I would rather to bring a fresh player in.

The goal is Nesta's mistake.

Well, one can also say that Thiago wasn't completely innocent.
Zed.D
I always support the underdogs so... forza Inter tonight!
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 29 2011, 01:59 PM) *
forza Inter tonight!

Is this were your heart ventures in the absence of our lovable duck... Zed, keep it together! tongue.gif
Danny
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 29 2011, 06:57 PM) *
Very important win, not easy to beat them away. Top of the table right now king.gif

Our defense is the issue we gotta fixed up. We are scoring enough, but very instable defensively.


You know why? It's not settled. While Nesta and Silva is our first choice partnership, both have missed a combined total of 3 domestic matches. That's not abysmal, but when you look at full back, and particularly left back, 3 players cycle for that slot. RB is kinda the only position where one player has been solid and consistently played.

Silva and Abate are the 2 almost ever presents. The other slots see various guys like Antonini, Bonera, Mexes, Zambrotta, Taiwo, and Nesta.

Add to that Abbiati's Jekyll and Hyde season and it's not hard to see why we're conceding.

The good thing, like you say, is we're scoring. We have riches up front and players that good will get you goals.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2011, 01:39 PM) *
All we need now is for Inter to beat Juve and that would be a very good night's work.

I can't find it in me to support inter.

Regardless the game's result, I can see myself finding reasons to be both happy and upset. Oh well...
han2503
@ Danny yes, we're still winning, and I agree with almost everything, but the problems in defence are very worrying for me, and yes we're scoring a lot, but sometimes, no matter how great the guys upfront are, you still can't get a break through. That's why it's so important to keep a clean sheet, or if you're going to conceed, at least keep it to just one goal. Last season we won the league by doing this. Sometimes we scored a lot, sometimes we managed to get by with a single goal and still got 3 points because we didn't conceed. We aren't going to score 3 or 4 goals in every game.

There's still time to fix this, last season we had similar problems during the first half of the season, we were conceeding a lot through counter attacks and we managed to eliminate that from our game. Our defence was near perfect last season from January onwards. A big part of that was the stability of the back 4 plus the shield VB made in front of them, and this season VB, Thiago and Nesta have simply not been at their best while we have issues with the LB.

Like I said, we still have time to fix it. Next internation break Allegri really needs to focus on defensive drills, defending on set-pieces and make the players understand that lapses in concentration won't be tolerated.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Oct 29 2011, 07:19 PM) *
I can't find it in me to support inter.

Regardless the game's result, I can see myself finding reasons to be both happy and upset. Oh well...


I totally hear you and that is why I'm hoping for a 0-0 tonight wink.gif
han2503
Oh and I'm totally with Inter tonight. We can close Saturday at the top of the table if Inter win.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2011, 07:40 PM) *
@ Danny yes, we're still winning, and I agree with almost everything, but the problems in defence are very worrying for me, and yes we're scoring a lot, but sometimes, no matter how great the guys upfront are, you still can't get a break through. That's why it's so important to keep a clean sheet, or if you're going to conceed, at least keep it to just one goal. Last season we won the league by doing this. Sometimes we scored a lot, sometimes we managed to get by with a single goal and still got 3 points because we didn't conceed. We aren't going to score 3 or 4 goals in every game.

There's still time to fix this, last season we had similar problems during the first half of the season, we were conceeding a lot through counter attacks and we managed to eliminate that from our game. Our defence was near perfect last season from January onwards. A big part of that was the stability of the back 4 plus the shield VB made in front of them, and this season VB, Thiago and Nesta have simply not been at their best while we have issues with the LB.

Like I said, we still have time to fix it. Next internation break Allegri really needs to focus on defensive drills, defending on set-pieces and make the players understand that lapses in concentration won't be tolerated.


It doesn't matter how much work you do on set pieces, and understanding, and coherent man marking etc, if you don't have a settled defence it makes no difference. The bedrock of any team is its defence (unless you're Barca of course) and success is based on having a settled back 4 who are completely familiar with each other.

Until Allegri settles on a back 4 and persists with the same players (bar injury of course) we'll keep conceding goals. But it really isn't worrying me given how many we're scoring at the other end. No reason to believe the goals will dry up any time soon. Plus we've got a fresh Pato ready to return and he'll be gagging for goals when he's fit.

No panic just yet for me smile.gif
Danny
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 29 2011, 07:41 PM) *
I totally hear you and that is why I'm hoping for a 0-0 tonight wink.gif


We'd be second on goal difference though.
Fillipo Simone
Well, Juve score.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2011, 07:51 PM) *
We'd be second on goal difference though.


I would have been happy with that as it mean't they could go into the bottom three laugh.gif Here's hoping wink.gif
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