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Danny
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2011, 03:09 PM) *
Oh we are not doubting his quality ... I for one am glade we got him .. It is his defensive attributes that he has to work on.


Problem with full backs is it's a total rarity to find one who excels in both attack and defence. Most often they excel in only one.

It's the absolute best in the world who are great at both.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 2 2011, 03:26 PM) *

What a loss Abate will be tonight!! Their left side is where we could have hit them hard with Abate's runs, and instead we have Bonera...
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2011, 12:24 PM) *
What a loss Abate will be tonight!! Their left side is where we could have hit them hard with Abate's runs, and instead we have Bonera...

Reading from left to right, i saw Grosso and Pepe and got exited as well...only to find out we're countering with Nocerino and bonnera... dry.gif

I hate how we have adopted Inter's old tactics of defending behind Ibra but i guess it's not like we have a pacey, mobile squad...
kurtsimonw
Krasic vs Zambrotta. laugh.gif Oh dear.
William405
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 2 2011, 08:26 PM) *
Krasic vs Zambrotta. laugh.gif Oh dear.


Krasic sucks...

Al Jazeera just put an emotional Pirlo short vid ;(
han2503
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 2 2011, 05:26 PM) *
Krasic vs Zambrotta. laugh.gif Oh dear.

I'd rather have Zambro on him then anyone else tbh.

Zambro might have lost his legs, but defensively, he's still our best FB and the one that I trust blindly out of all of them
Jack Bauer
Chiellini might start as LB and Bonucci will partner Barzagli.
d'Arc.LP
Juventus (4-2-3-1) – Antonio Conte
Gianluigi Buffon; Stephan Lichtsteiner, Andrea Barzagli, Leonardo Bonucci, Giorgio Chiellini; Andrea Pirlo, Claudio Marchisio; Miloš Krasić, Arturo Vidal, Simone Pepe; Mirko Vučinić.
Bench: M. Storari, F. Grosso, E. Giaccherini, M. Pazienza, A. Del Piero, A. Matri, E. Elia.

AC Milan (4-3-1-2) –
Massimiliano Allegri
Christian Abbiati; Daniele Bonera, Alessandro Nesta, Thiago Silva, Gianluca Zambrotta; Antonio Nocerino, Mark Van Bommel, Clarence Seedorf; Kevin-Prince Boateng, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Antonio Cassano.
Bench: M Amelia, L. Antonini, M. De Sciglio, A. Aquilani, U. Emanuelson, F. Inzaghi, M. Ambrosini.
Darunia
Like our lineup
han2503
I wonder why Conte moved Chiellini to LB and left the two meatballs in the center to handle Zlatan... Doesn't really make any sense... And it's not like we have Ronaldo or Messi playing on our right side rolleyes.gif

Anyways, hope it works in our favour. We simply have to win this!!
Jack Bauer
Taiwo and El Sha not even on the bench...
X-Offender
No Yepes and Taiwo on the bench.

Anyway, I hope this turns out to be a decent match, and we witness some good football.

FORZA MILAN!!!
KillerMax
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2011, 01:22 PM) *
Anyways, hope it works in our favour. We simply have to win this!!


What if we win it complicatedly tongue.gif
d'Arc.LP
Aquilani is warming up with the team Boateng seems to have back pain ...

UPDATE:

Boateng is back with the team !
han2503
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 2 2011, 07:24 PM) *
What if we win it complicatedly tongue.gif

Well that matter would be completely out of my hands biggrin.gif

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Oct 2 2011, 07:27 PM) *
Aquilani is warming up with the team Boateng seems to have back pain ...

UPDATE:

Boateng is back with the team !

Well at least we know Aqui is first choice for the sub instead of Urby
vahid
Any one noticed that if we win, we will be the first to beat them in Stadio Juve?
Boban10
Nervous, but looking forward to it!!!


FORZA MILAN!!! devil.gif
han2503
Can't believe we're still messing around with the short corners rolleyes.gif
drucurl
Cassano looking up for it 96.gif
arivanjj
nesta making some awful passes from defense.
han2503
Oh! So lucky there not to conceed. off the bar!

We're not playing well at all atm. Juve are overunning us, Seedorf is a no-show, same goes for Boateng
il_diavolo_mtl
Vucinic is killing us :S
il_diavolo_mtl
this is painful, we have NO pace ANYWHERE!!! Even when we try to press, it doesn't even show...
han2503
Can't believe we're letting Pirlo do whatever he pleases. We should be one of the teams able to stop him and we can't get near him! Ridiculous!!
X-Offender
What the hell is this? We can't seem to be making more than two consecutive passes. Our game is slow and we don't press the opponent. It's Barça all over again.
il_diavolo_mtl
i have always defended Allegri, but this is ridiculous...
han2503
Seedorf and Boateng need to switch places. They're obviously double teaming Seedorf as he's our only threat from the midfield
il_diavolo_mtl
Seedorf gave up on defending, he moves up and the tactical setup remains the same... leaving Krasic the most space he will ever see. Seedorf is beyond flop of the match.
han2503
Horrible first half. Allegri needs to change something quick or we're losing this for sure!!

Seedorf is just not there today, and Boateng is clearly struggling to get back into any sort of rythm.

Nesta is making mistakes playing out the ball because Juve are pressing a lot, while our players seem to have weights attached to their feet.

I know they're tired because they played in midweek while Juve didn't but this is aweul and just not acceptable
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2011, 03:31 PM) *
Seedorf and Boateng need to switch places. They're obviously double teaming Seedorf as he's our only threat from the midfield

don't give him too much credit he walks upfield and the RM follows, not fearing a run by zambrotta.
Fillipo Simone
Seedorf is beyond flop of the match. Naaah... rolleyes.gif

Allegri is beyond flop. 45 minutes without even a shot on goal is disgraceful. I'm really ashamed of our display - only luck saved us so far. Allegri's mistakes...I don't even have the strength to talk about them; it's every game the same story.
il_diavolo_mtl
Antonini for Bonnera
and
Aquilani for Seedorf
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2011, 09:33 PM) *
Horrible first half. Allegri needs to change something quick or we're losing this for sure!!

Seedorf is just not there today, and Boateng is clearly struggling to get back into any sort of rythm.

Nesta is making mistakes playing out the ball because Juve are pressing a lot, while our players seem to have weights attached to their feet.

I know they're tired because they played in midweek while Juve didn't but this is aweul and just not acceptable

1) Make a change after the first 45 minutes: happens almost every time
2) Why is Seedorf tired? Why is Ibra tired? We don't need guessing...
3) The trequartista position is a riddle Allegri won't solve in the next 10 years
4) Looking at Pirlo, his passing and distribution - I ask my self over and over again - why did we let him go???
Boban10
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Oct 2 2011, 07:16 PM) *
AC Milan (4-3-1-2) –[/b] Massimiliano Allegri
Christian Abbiati; Daniele Bonera, Alessandro Nesta, Thiago Silva, Gianluca Zambrotta; Antonio Nocerino, Mark Van Bommel, Clarence Seedorf; Kevin-Prince Boateng, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Antonio Cassano.
Bench: M Amelia, L. Antonini, M. De Sciglio, A. Aquilani, U. Emanuelson, F. Inzaghi, M. Ambrosini.


Juve starting to dominate there, thank god whistle went. Why no El Sha in squad, he gives us options!

Their midfield has taken control and with the way we are passing we wont get it back. Allegri just seems so one dimensional/pig headed/clueless???? I dont know, but he cant seem to plan for different opposition, or have a plan B/plan C. MVB was on his own defending, the wide two mids were not involved at all unless giving away possession. Allegri needs to do something at half time.

I would be tempted to go 4-4-2, switch nocerino in beside MVB, have Prince wide right, possibly sub seedorf with Urby for width, Ibra/Cassano will drop back into space to collect ball (they do this regardless of if we are playing a treq role). Its either something like that or assign boateng to kick pirlo out of the game erm cough i mean man mark pirlo out of the game wink.gif
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 2 2011, 03:34 PM) *
Seedorf is beyond flop of the match. Naaah... rolleyes.gif

Allegri is beyond flop. 45 minutes without even a shot on goal is disgraceful. I'm really ashamed of our display - only luck saved us so far. Allegri's mistakes...I don't even have the strength to talk about them; it's every game the same story.

While i agree, the players are not doing anything... the only passes we have managed to complete are between the back 4. Leadership also plays a part, we might have the laziest captain in Serie A. I am willing to admit allegri has no creation or hallelujah-esque solution to the apathy on the field, but i mean surely we, AC milan, can pretend to be more exited to play...
han2503
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 2 2011, 08:35 PM) *
Antonini for Bonnera
and
Aquilani for Seedorf

I'm a it worried about pushing Aqui on the left in this one. If he does he needs to cover the spaces, even while playing aweful Seedorf always does that.

I don't get why we don't have VB on Pirlo's @ss or at least Boateng since he's playing in the "Pirlo Zone" it's ridiculous how he's being left to run the show. It's as if we don't know what he can do.

Why are we not pressing the danger men, we all know who they arre yet the central mids and Vucinic are being left to pass it freely through huge gape in the center, We should be exploiting Juve's defensive weakness in the center, not letting their offensive strength get to us by giving them space in that area
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Boban10 @ Oct 2 2011, 03:39 PM) *
Juve starting to dominate there, thank god whistle went. Why no El Sha in squad, he gives us options!

Their midfield has taken control and with the way we are passing we wont get it back. Allegri just seems so one dimensional/pig headed/clueless???? I dont know, but he cant seem to plan for different opposition, or have a plan B/plan C. MVB was on his own defending, the wide two mids were not involved at all unless giving away possession. Allegri needs to do something at half time.

I would be tempted to go 4-4-2, switch nocerino in beside MVB, have Prince wide right, possibly sub seedorf with Urby for width, Ibra/Cassano will drop back into space to collect ball (they do this regardless of if we are playing a treq role). Its either something like that or assign boateng to kick pirlo out of the game erm cough i mean man mark pirlo out of the game wink.gif

+1
I like the idea of going 4-4-2, but i do think that cassano would have to drop back a little to help MVB2 and Nocerino with possession so it would look more like a 4-4-1-1 which at this point, i'm willing to try.
Dracoris
Has Seedorf even reached a full sprint once?
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 2 2011, 09:39 PM) *
While i agree, the players are not doing anything... the only passes we have managed to complete are between the back 4. Leadership also plays a part, we might have the laziest captain in Serie A. I am willing to admit allegri has no creation or hallelujah-esque solution to the apathy on the field, but i mean surely we, AC milan, can pretend to be more exited to play...

Exited to play? Laziest captain? Well, Seedorf is 35 and Allegri is playing him like he's 25. He can't fire up the midfield that much - Nocerino could do it, but he's a total DM with no initiative or dynamic. Ibra and Cassano are cut off - all because Allegri won't understand that by positioning Seedorf on the AM and Aquilani or Boateng on the LM we get the best out of everyone: Seedorf is more static, yet has more space to pass around and can go around more freely, while Boatengs dynamic gives us an alternative on the flank. But no...he won't do it. He'll just drop in Aquilani for Boateng and we'll see the same story.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 2 2011, 08:37 PM) *
1) Make a change after the first 45 minutes: happens almost every time
2) Why is Seedorf tired? Why is Ibra tired? We don't need guessing...
3) The trequartista position is a riddle Allegri won't solve in the next 10 years
4) Looking at Pirlo, his passing and distribution - I ask my self over and over again - why did we let him go???

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Agreed
4. Because Allegri is an idiot who doesn't know how to include creative players into his system unless they're Seedorf
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2011, 03:41 PM) *
I'm a it worried about pushing Aqui on the left in this one. If he does he needs to cover the spaces, even while playing aweful Seedorf always does that.

I don't get why we don't have VB on Pirlo's @ss or at least Boateng since he's playing in the "Pirlo Zone" it's ridiculous how he's being left to run the show. It's as if we don't know what he can do.

Why are we not pressing the danger men, we all know who they arre yet the central mids and Vucinic are being left to pass it freely through huge gape in the center, We should be exploiting Juve's defensive weakness in the center, not letting their offensive strength get to us by giving them space in that area

We can usually tell within a hlaf is Seedorf is going to care or not about said game. Today is a no, so i wouldn't even mind swapping him with De Sciglio... The old guard have been complacent for far too long dry.gif
Dracoris
Juve is playing Katy Perry over the loud speakers. Its over now, they'll win.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 2 2011, 08:43 PM) *
Exited to play? Laziest captain? Well, Seedorf is 35 and Allegri is playing him like he's 25. He can't fire up the midfield that much - Nocerino could do it, but he's a total DM with no initiative or dynamic. Ibra and Cassano are cut off - all because Allegri won't understand that by positioning Seedorf on the AM and Aquilani or Boateng on the LM we get the best out of everyone: Seedorf is more static, yet has more space to pass around and can go around more freely, while Boatengs dynamic gives us an alternative on the flank. But no...he won't do it. He'll just drop in Aquilani for Boateng and we'll see the same story.

Agreed, this is my biggest issue.

Boateng playing behind the strikers is one of my biggest pet peaves, and this season it's not working AT ALL. He's not an AM, stop playing him there FFS!!! He doesn't support the strikers, doesn't make the incisive passes needed when playing that position and his running is fruitless!

He needs to change it up

I'd even say he needs to srop Nocerino from the right side, move Boateng in that position and give Seedorf the AM role. Aqui can play the left side
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 2 2011, 09:45 PM) *
We can usually tell within a hlaf is Seedorf is going to care or not about said game. Today is a no, so i wouldn't even mind swapping him with De Sciglio... The old guard have been complacent for far too long dry.gif

Don't go to far wink.gif
han2503
Oh! What a save from Abbiat1!!

What are they doing???!!
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 2 2011, 03:43 PM) *
Exited to play? Laziest captain? Well, Seedorf is 35 and Allegri is playing him like he's 25. He can't fire up the midfield that much - Nocerino could do it, but he's a total DM with no initiative or dynamic. Ibra and Cassano are cut off - all because Allegri won't understand that by positioning Seedorf on the AM and Aquilani or Boateng on the LM we get the best out of everyone: Seedorf is more static, yet has more space to pass around and can go around more freely, while Boatengs dynamic gives us an alternative on the flank. But no...he won't do it. He'll just drop in Aquilani for Boateng and we'll see the same story.

I would view him as you do, Allegri's victim, had he not complained about not starting and not being offered a contract last autumn when he was competing with bonnera for worst player. I would view him as a Pippo, but he thinks highly of himself, and for him to feel he deserves top dollar, he must back the club's faith.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 2 2011, 03:46 PM) *
Don't go to far wink.gif

i get carried away sometimes... innocent.gif
han2503
Oh what a save from Gigi there
il_diavolo_mtl
Boatang looks injured, was he rushed in or completely cleared?
Boban10
Short corners are pissing me off!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry
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