Hater.

Don't agree with Seedorf. He is only here because we lack a better option. If we had money, he wouldn't be playing for us right now. He has certainly lost his strength and stamina. Could play for Lazio. Not here.

Abate will be one right back to look out for. You can see that he has developed over time and this is not a one off. I actually am in a bit of disbelief regarding his tactical growth. He was almost perfect in that aspect of his game.

Flamini... where to start with this guy? Did you guys see how he completely f@cked up our offside attempt in that one occasion where Crouch could have scored with his head but mismanaged the ball? Our back four in a perfect straight line in front of Crouch and Flamini is roaming around behind him with some distance like a retarded electron circling its nucleolus... And how many times did he ruin technical movements of Robinho and others with his flimsy and sometimes downright amateurish presence in wrong places? Add to this his horrendous tackles and lack of any useful offensive attribute and you have a player that needs to get as far away from Milan. He can play for Nannes or something... I don't know.

can't agree more.. both feet off ground AGAIN.. but the suspension won't really matter anyway..

It was like dying slowly...for me at least.I knew we wouldn't get a goal,but their always remained hope as we kept them at bay.We play better in the 1st half really.
Seedorf was great,this is why he should be played in games like this.

Pato was too selfish,but had a few shots on goal that troubled Gomez,and could have helped us score.

Ibra I thought he would be our power in this game,but he just wasn't up to it physically,I can count the times he lost the ball purely because he didn't enforce his physicality,a thing he was really good at.Perhaps he's too tired,surely he should rest against Bari.We need him back for other games.

Robinho,eh,I won't even bother.

Boateng seemed to be playing with his injury,it seemed to be affecting his play a bit,but he was decent.He'll be much more useful to us playing behind the strikers in the Serie A.

Flamini,still performed his bad tackles,didn't perform really well.

Thiago was flawless as usual,but Nesta didn't play well at all,don't know why...

Abate is class,he's turning into a great fullback,cheers to him!


We'll start hearing now a lot of stuff about how Italian/Serie A Football has degraded and ****,pfft.

Clearly you're a hater now, that's twice you've questioned Pato.

Clearly those shots would have gone in with a better linesman.

And this is just the start ... Bye bye magical Champions League nights

If Abate keeps improving, we have the RB we always wanted. Just need that LB. Of course I said the same thing about Antonini last year, but look where he is now.

Seedorf rolled it back today, wouldn't expect to see another performance like this from him ever again. This was his last hurrah.

Merkel is our future, but to think he is only 18 and still probably has 3 years before reaching anything close to his potential is astonishing.

Perhaps Strasser should've started and Boateng could've been pushed to CAM infront of Pato and Ibra.

Stop it!!!!!!!!!!! This zed-kurt debate will stop this instant!!!


@han - Flamini played good, but he has a big hole in his head. Today he made a few dirty attempts and he's just proving that he should be on the same level as Van Bommel, while Marc will always be and remain a better overall player.

Robinho? What have I told you much earlier? He's expensive but his chance wasting is just unacceptable. I'd wish we somehow could trade him for a proper AM. Kaka in his best days would have run over this Tottenham with 50% of his strenght.

And once more, a big applause to Seedorf. This may have been the final appearance of Clarence in the Champions League - his homeland. We lost, but he made a great overall performance and ended as Milan's captain

He got the ball, didn't touch the opposing players leg, went in one footed, no yellow...

Sure he was selfish at time, but please name one of our strikers who wasn't? At that point all of them were trying to pull off something individually because they couldn't link up at all. Aside from that, he got involved, got into good positions, and aimed his shot on goal most of the time...


Your assesment of Flamini is unfair. His job was to win the ball in the midfield, his offside incident I don't recall because I didn't notice it was him, as for him getting into attacking areas, well no one was making anything happen so he was pushing up to at least try to run into the box like it's been working so well in the Serie A, the time he got in Robinho's way wasn't really as bad as you're making it out to be, because we saw Robinho and Pato doing the same thing to eachother, as well as Ibra and Robinho doing just that against Juve. We seem to be lacking coherence in attack and we're suffering because of it

This.

Robinho is a high quality substitute.

Well, that's true. whether we like it or not. I know Inter are the reigning champions, but if you look at the whole picture, the performance of Italian clubs in CL and especially UEFA/Europa has been horrendous. what puzzles me is that it's not even about the lack of quality players...

Eighteen?! didn't know that.

Yeah, the kid plays for Germany Under 19. He is someone to look out for. Looks like a player who will develop over time as opposed to someone like Pato.

han... Please... Van Bommel's job is the same thing and he actually DOES DO THAT! He gets in, makes a challenge and more often than not come away with the ball and starts an attacking movement or just any movement depending on the situation. I watched this WHOLE game and didn't notice Flamini do that even ONCE. Please dude... Spare me the headache..

This summer it might be time to say goodbye to Flamini. I always stood by him because his biggest flaw, dumb, harsh tackling, is coachable and should've been corrected by now. So either Allegri, Leo, and Carlo fail, or Flamini fails. I'm betting on the latter.

Why do you think we dominated the midfield, especially the first half? Flamini was doing a lot of work, whether you like it or not, is he dirty at times they way he goes into tackles? Sure. But he does his job, he's not the same type of DM as Van Bommel is so you can't compare how they play.

Anyways I'm not going to bother say he's cr@p all you want, that was my last reply on the subject, fact here is had we had a decent AM we would have won this easily. Robinho is not good enough simple as. As for your comment on Pato it really doesn't make any sense, he had no service from midfield, at least not the type of service he thrives on, again he was playing out of position most of the night yet it's all his fault! Merkel had one decent pass, let's not make a meal out of it like we usually do when that kid's involved, if he's still here in 3 years time then we can start talking, but I'm pretty sure that he'll get lost in the sea of almosts we had over the years that got loaned out and never returned as expected.

I didn't say anything about Pato...

And We are going to disagree about Flamini.

And I can make the same argument you made about Flamini, about Merkel. Do you think it was a coincidence that all of a sudden we looked more dangerous when he came on? Certainly made some good passes that were missing in the area. Was I expecting him to dribble everyone and score? No, but this 18 year old kid who gets "killed" or whatever under pressure came in and certainly got involved in the game in a positive way which definitely says a lot about the kind of player he is and his potential for growth.

well it was a good attempt. At least we weren't humiliated. With all the injuries we have; its not surprising to lose.


Time to move on; we still have serie A to win


This summer will be instrumental and I hope galliani pulls a masterclass again. Good mercato and maybe we can start looking at the CL as something realistic again.

I saw it mate, no reason to try to convince me, I still think it was a certain yellow.

Pato did some things very well. But you said he did nothing wrong and I just can't agree with that. He did many things wrong and I expect much more from him.


Why can't Pato improve?

In the post above


What pressure was on Merkel at that point? Tottenham were barely evn playing, we've seen Merkel crumble in Serie A, when real pressure is put on him, yes we improved slightly, but before thatwe had a limping Boateng on, anything is an improvement on that, and considering the easy going pace we were playing at anyone who would have bothered to pass forward would have looked good, and that is what Merkel did.

... Not what I meant... Meant to say that he is not starting off as a superstar like Pato... He need time to develop. Kind of like Abate. I am curious what you think of him now.. I saw a post someone compared him to Antonini... In Antonini I saw a player who over-compensated for his lack of tactical and defending skills with a lot of running and chaotic energy. But Abate looks composed and he definitely looks like he has learned a lot about defending and tactical presence.

When I say nothing wrong, it means that he didn't make mistakes like Robinho did, for example. In terms of overall performance, he made wrong decisions, either the final pass or shot, something that all the players did tonight I feel. We were controlling the game, but when it came down to just pulling off that one pass to get the job done every player was lacking. Then they started going the selfish route, all of them not just Pato, at one point, Merkel was wide open at the edge of the box, and Zlatan kept rolling it under his feet instand of just passing it to Merkel who was in a great position at the time

Oh yeah.. such an easy walk in the park game... come on.... that is not an argument.

And I explained that Pato thing above. I am certainly not bashing him. He did all he could. And he will develop. That's not what I meant. I'm a fan.

It is in fact, we've seen him in Serie A, when midfielders target him and put him under pressure, he loses his cool and starts making mistakes, like he expected to, he's a kid FFS!! Today what pressure was he under any time he was on the ball? You tell me. Tottenham were camped out trying to hit us on the counter, anywhere near halfway was free for our players to do as they pleased, and that is where Merkel stayed and fead his balls from, his passing is great as well as his movement, I'm not taking anything away from him, but come on!!!

Oh OK! Abate has been a much better player the second half of this season... I did not expect anything from him really, he was just a guy that could run fast and only in a straight line but he has improved a lot, credit where it's due.


I did not say Pato was the only one making mistakes. But I expect more from him... I certainly don't expect anything from Ibra or Roninho in the CL... they have proved they are useless in this competition... Pato has not proved he can make it but he has not been proven worthless either.

That is all I am saying. Looks like someone who can develop over time to become a great player. The fact that he is 18 should say it all. I see the glass half full and there is no coincidence he has made it to the squad. Even if he doesn't end up playing for Milan, all I have to say that I like his playing style. There some players that just appeal to you and some that don't. Abate and Merkel certainly appeal to me as young players.

Ibra is just sucking everywhere at this point, next Sunday against Bari he should be rested, he's just not physically able to continue at this rate, we saw it against Napoli, Juve and again today. Robinho is a dud. While sure I expect a lot from Pato, but under the circumstances I think he did well aside from that miss from Merkel's pass. Again, he's not playing in his position, we don't have a good midfield, like zeddie said, we have a hole between midfield and attack our strikers or not supplied well due to this, so they suffer during the game, where they either have to drop deep or go out wide.

Had we had someone like Cassano playing who can work in tighter areas or a real true AM things could have been different, but again, what's done is done. Next year we'll do better I'm sure of this

Fantastic result for Spurs and a personal triumph for Harry Redknapp, who has just become the first English manager to lead his team into the UEFA Champions League Quarter Finals.

Special mention for Gallas and Sandro, who were outstanding for us today.

Ajab giri dade in khar kosde... Boro gomsho martike...

I'm not judging him on what he could not do and I'm not blaming this result on him. I simply think he could have done more when he had the ball and he made many mistakes.

You expect more from Pato? Sorry, but he was the only one in our attack who was really trying tonight. He wanted to win this game. Ibrahimovic was absolutely null. I presume fatigue must have played its part, but he was as immobile as a rock. Really, really awful performance. Robinho... Well, what to say about this guy. He runs and works his @ss off, but his finishing is catastrophic. I still can't believe he didn't score that empty goal opportunity in the first half.

I really have nothing bad to say about the other players. We controlled the game, especially in the first half. Redknapp himself said it in the post-match interview I saw. What we lacked was the finishing touch. But hey, at least we leave the competition with our heads up!

Well done!


I don't know what you're saying but leave the guy alone... let him troll, he's not going to see this again in his life.

Now I'm seeing why everyone wants to play Merkel... hm.

My ratings:

Abbiati: 1.5 OK, didn't have to do much.
Nesta: 2.5 apart from some clumsy passes, good.
Silva: 3 great.
Abate: 2 he's improved a lot recently. he was average, now he's good. we need world class.
Janku: 1.5 what can I say, he's old and finished.
Seedorf: 2 I can't see how he deserves all this praise. he played as a deep lying midfielder and made simple passes around (mostly backwards!) and beside that, won most of his challenges. if that's all we expect from Seedorf then he was amazing!
Flamini: 1.5 umm... not very good! I know they're supposed to act professionally, but he was booed every time he touched the ball. it's not easy to perform well under such circumstances especially when your team is going out.
KPB: 2 I felt he was still carrying that knock. I'm satisfied with him. only.. sometimes he can be a showoff and that's not really cool
Robinho: 1.5 we could still be in the competition if he'd not made a mess out of a single finish. can't forgive him for that.
Pato: 1.5 I thought he was decent in the 1st half but lost his concentration in the 2nd half and made the same old mistakes.
Ibra: 1 totally unwatchable, piss poor performance.

Antonini: 2
Merkel: 2
Strasser: NA

I'd like to mention once more that I'm totally disgusted by Crouch and his way of playing. and I'm amazed he didn't get booked for constantly falling over Nesta and Silva all game long.

And LOL @ everyone who made a monster out of Bale.

@ Kurt

You can be such a child but I'd like to offer truce! sorry for calling you blind, stupid and hater, among other things!

Agreed. But Ibrahimovic has not exactly been the best role model for him. We also have to acknowledge that he and Ibra are not the best match either. I think Pato would enjoy playing with someone like Inzaghi or Sheva much more due to their characteristics to play off each others game. Ibra look like he wants to be alone up there or something...

Ahh! I'm certainly not getting across here... Pato was trying I agree, it's not what I said. He just did not do the right things. It's not the same thing.

Robinho is the best representative of the breed of players (of any sport) I can't stand, those that don't hustle at all. He's weak, I dislike him!


at least! it makes the first leg's display somewhat feel less awful.

Are you being sarcastic? Read a couple posts before... I explained that whole quote better.

Na valla! I was being serious!

It looks like Seedorf cried at the end of the game.

I actually thought Milan played very well. I think if we'd found the first, it could have been a massacre. But, it wasn't to be.

Congratulations to Spurs. Time to focus on the league...

Played really well in the 1st half. Simply played them off the pitch, no doubt. Though at the time I was thinking we have to score, we have to score this is going to fizzle out. Then when Pato easily beat Gomes for pace and slotted it to Robinho I was thinking this is it, that miss was big though. It practically came off his heel then onto his other leg, that was the real turning point in my eyes.

Zlatan just can't do it against English sides, bar those 2 goals against Arsenal last year he's just terrible. Robinho seemed to give the ball away so many times though was pretty creative in spells. Pato wasn't terrible, there was just no clear chances or efforts. It didn't help Spurs had 11 men back for the whole of the 2nd half. Fair play to Clarence I thought he was brilliant tonight and Silva impressed me (again). Flamini did well for about 60 minutes then seemed like it was a matter of time before the sending off. Merkel did ok for the time he was on, I don't think I saw Strasser touch the ball. Antonini was a strange sub to me, unless Jankulovski was really struggling with his fitness late on. KPB was excellent, again proving his worth. Abate actually didn't do much wrong though was never tested defensively.

I was worried before the game that this could turn into embarrassment by that, I mean comfortably losing 2-0, 3-0 or something at WHL. That didn't happen though. Oh, and how bad was Bale when he came on?! That gave me a bit of comfort.

Fair play to Spurs, in my eyes we were the better side out of the 2 legs, but you don't get anywhere without scoring goals.

We can now focus on the league and hopefully that will turn out good.

I hated to see how often we lost possession so unnecessary.

My goodness Allegri is SUCH A RUBBISH COACH Yes people will say we were unlucky and the strikers lacked the finishing touch etc etc.....but the truth is we had no attacking strategy whatsoever.....what was it anyway for the e-tactical pundits of the forum? because I saw none

Seedorf was stuck deep in CM where I admit he did admirably but also he had no time or space to provide the killer passes that we've all seen him dish time after time. He played his heart out today in both directions and it's REALLY sad to see us go out without much much of a struggle imho.

Once again iBra has shown himself to be a Swedish Rooney. MASSIVE vs the small league teams and totally invisible when we really need a CF.....AGAIN his and Pato's "partnership" sucked utter and complete monkey balls because I was yelling at my tv the times he could have made a simple lay-off to Alexandre and REFUSED to do it. Yes Pato is brilliant but he's only 21 and when crowded with a fucking catenaccio playing chicken **** team with an alleged world class strike partner who's about as visible as purified air- he's prone to make a couple silly decisions. All credit to him for trying though....except for the silly 40 yard shot....but AGAIN it's those unthinkable attempts that separate the true genius from the ordinary "good" players. Pato got praise for his solo goals vs Napoli and Chievo when in reality the "proper" decision was to pass. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Now back to $h!tlegri.....yeah we lacked a bit of creativity in the midfield but this is ABSOLTUELY no reason not to score a single goal vs Tottenham. Look at the quality of teams tottenham has conceeded goals to recently and tell me with a serious face that we needed Pirlo/Ganso/Lamela/Kaka/Zidane/Riquelme/Ibrahim Ba in midfield dishing killer ball after killer ball for the strikers
Seriously if this guy needs the above to beat Tottenham when HE HIMSELF can say that they're not one of the powerhouses of the CL then he needs to GTFO. Other than the Robinho miss didn't have ONE proper chance for the entire match. That is simply unacceptable. The casual observer will say that we attacked all game but looking at it closely it's ALWAYS the same press press press nonsense that leads to NOTHING. The individual brilliance of Pato and iBra has been saving us ALL season long in Italy. But against any semi decent side (sorry a juve and inter in tatters doesn't count) with a semi organized team and we struggle...and if our strikers can't conjure up the magic it gets ugly.

Enough with the whining about the ref. That's for small teams and loser teams. We got away with quite a few hand balls in the box that a stricter ref would have called and then this "leaving with pride" result would have been exposed for the farce it was. Damn I wish we had Leonard or Ancelotti with this team. Yeah people go on and on about how Leo was tactically inept (incredibly despite it being his first season coaching ANY team)....but routinely excuse each and every of Allegri's fuckups. I'd rather see my team go out with a heavy defeat but showing we could do SOMETHING like we did vs Manchester United than leaving an English team with a clean sheet...but surely I stand alone in my opinion

LOL, there's not much Allegri could have done. He played the best possible formation. You should consider the fact that 70% of how a team performs is due to the players and not the coach. Tonight, we rarely played long balls, which is a novelty. We dominated Tottenham for 90 minutes, and we had about 4-5 real goal opportunities. We didn't win because 1) our most important player was asleep the entire match, and 2) we didn't capitalize our chances to score. Could have we played better? Of course. But given the circumstances, I think we're leaving the competition with dignity.

I still remember we were beaten 4-0 by manchester united at old trafford last season. what do you mean when you say we could do something like we did against them?

Exactly. We did nothing against them.

At least we scored

I am so cut as I always am when we get knocked out of the tournament. 3 times by english opposition really hurts, and to be knocked out by this team of plebs is like a dagger in the heart.

When I saw the line-up I immediately had these comments:
Ibra should have been rested at the weekend, we could have won without him.
Robinho should have started on the bench so we could have had a good attacking option to come off the bench.
Boateng behind the forwards because he really gets into the box when we have the ball in wide areas and that what was lacking in this game... Bottom line, we needed PIPPO!!

Anyway, as someone mentioned earlier, the Champions League clearer wasn't part of the season objectives by the higher-ups otherwise we would have signed some good CL replacements considering how many injuries we had at the start of the season.

Some positives for next season include:
Cassano will be available in all competitions
Didac Vila will hopefully be played in some fixtures this season and be our new star left back
We will find a position for Emanuelson and he will be available in all competitions
We will not take up the option to buy Ibra and replace him with a quality striker that we don't need to rely on.

four words:
Play Merkel. Sack Allegri

I think you should sit back and wonder why you are the only one blaming Allegri.